So where are we with getting the server the hell outta Some Great Guy's closet March 18, 2004 9:12 AM Subscribe
So where are we with getting the server the hell outta Some Great Guy's closet and into Some Proper Hosting Place? There's been talk of us stumping up, and that's fine by me. Especially if it means when I press the feed button of my cage I get good nourishing MeFi goodness, not "server refused the connection".
(filed under feature requests, although I'm not sure "works" is a feature)
(filed under feature requests, although I'm not sure "works" is a feature)
You could always AskMeFi...
But seriously - how hard can it be? Lots of other websites manage pretty good reliability and MeFi always seems to come back up pretty promptly come morning time US-side.
I did mention paying, by the way, and I think it's worth consideration. The current solution is a really fantastic one for us all - we get a free website, Matt gets free hosting; we get Matt's time as editor and coder, he gets our content; Matt gets income from google ads and the odd holiday and camera, we get ... hmm.
There comes a point where I'd be much happier paying $5 a month and having it work all the time, rather than it just disappearing.
I'm sure the timezone difference I'm in affects things *a lot*, but it can be down for 12-13 hours here, and there's never a word about it - status.metafilter.com hasn't been updated since the 20th, and it's been down a lot since then, at least according to metafilter wiki's logs.
posted by bonaldi at 9:25 AM on March 18, 2004
But seriously - how hard can it be? Lots of other websites manage pretty good reliability and MeFi always seems to come back up pretty promptly come morning time US-side.
I did mention paying, by the way, and I think it's worth consideration. The current solution is a really fantastic one for us all - we get a free website, Matt gets free hosting; we get Matt's time as editor and coder, he gets our content; Matt gets income from google ads and the odd holiday and camera, we get ... hmm.
There comes a point where I'd be much happier paying $5 a month and having it work all the time, rather than it just disappearing.
I'm sure the timezone difference I'm in affects things *a lot*, but it can be down for 12-13 hours here, and there's never a word about it - status.metafilter.com hasn't been updated since the 20th, and it's been down a lot since then, at least according to metafilter wiki's logs.
posted by bonaldi at 9:25 AM on March 18, 2004
I don't want to go to hosting just yet, as it's currently a software problem with IIS on the box. I'm going to move over to Apache when I get some free time in the next couple weeks, which should alleviate problems.
Give me a couple weeks, I swear it'll be back and working right.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 9:29 AM on March 18, 2004
Give me a couple weeks, I swear it'll be back and working right.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 9:29 AM on March 18, 2004
Could we have some tunes while we wait? Maybe something in the way of forgettable big-hair pop?
posted by gleuschk at 9:40 AM on March 18, 2004
posted by gleuschk at 9:40 AM on March 18, 2004
Burn him!
Wait, no. How about an optional yearly subscription? That way if we want to pony up on a regular basis we can, but if we're huge cheapskates then that's fine too.
Of course once we start paying we'll probably become whinier about our new pony requests. So I guess it'd be a mixed bag.
posted by bshort at 9:42 AM on March 18, 2004
Wait, no. How about an optional yearly subscription? That way if we want to pony up on a regular basis we can, but if we're huge cheapskates then that's fine too.
Of course once we start paying we'll probably become whinier about our new pony requests. So I guess it'd be a mixed bag.
posted by bshort at 9:42 AM on March 18, 2004
Heheheh, I just tried to post ye and say how great Matt is, but when I did I got "connection refused". Are you watching my IP and pranking me, Number 1?
So I've changed my vote. Lets get a pot of cash together and hire some thugs go round his house beat the hell out the guy with an IIS manual.
Or install Apache, if the thugs are up to it...
posted by bonaldi at 9:42 AM on March 18, 2004
So I've changed my vote. Lets get a pot of cash together and hire some thugs go round his house beat the hell out the guy with an IIS manual.
Or install Apache, if the thugs are up to it...
posted by bonaldi at 9:42 AM on March 18, 2004
Or we could hire some Apaches to go round his house to scalp him... (I always thought he had too much hair)
::apologizes for not resisting the temptation to use a crude ethnic stereotype::
posted by wendell at 10:19 AM on March 18, 2004
::apologizes for not resisting the temptation to use a crude ethnic stereotype::
posted by wendell at 10:19 AM on March 18, 2004
Go ahead and fling some cash at Numero Uno. Maybe you can guilt him into upgrading.
posted by theora55 at 10:52 AM on March 18, 2004
posted by theora55 at 10:52 AM on March 18, 2004
Paginate threads. Show less FPPs on the front page. Give the server a break!
posted by SpaceCadet at 10:55 AM on March 18, 2004
posted by SpaceCadet at 10:55 AM on March 18, 2004
seriously, Matt, why don't you finance future upgrades by asking MeFi wannabe's to pay, say, 5 bucks (for commenting rights only) or 10 bucks (full membership for comments + posts) each?
posted by matteo at 10:59 AM on March 18, 2004
posted by matteo at 10:59 AM on March 18, 2004
I know at least one person who'd go for $10 a year to be able to post to MeFi.
Besides, $10 is only about £2.50. That's about three Snickers bars...
posted by twine42 at 11:06 AM on March 18, 2004
Besides, $10 is only about £2.50. That's about three Snickers bars...
posted by twine42 at 11:06 AM on March 18, 2004
Let's leave the monkeys out of this, shall we?
posted by mr_crash_davis at 11:16 AM on March 18, 2004
posted by mr_crash_davis at 11:16 AM on March 18, 2004
We should start by deleting unused user accounts, because that saves Internet band-width.
posted by eddydamascene at 11:26 AM on March 18, 2004
posted by eddydamascene at 11:26 AM on March 18, 2004
So where are we with getting the server the hell outta Some Great Guy's closet and into Some Proper Hosting Place?
I guess that's the "we" that doesn't include you...
posted by websavvy at 11:26 AM on March 18, 2004
I guess that's the "we" that doesn't include you...
posted by websavvy at 11:26 AM on March 18, 2004
Do you remember what happened last time we left the monkeys out of things? Right. I trust you don't want any more scenes like that.
posted by fvw at 11:36 AM on March 18, 2004
posted by fvw at 11:36 AM on March 18, 2004
i'd vote 'ye' as far as giving matt some time to get things right...but man, update status.mefi more often. criminey!
posted by taumeson at 11:58 AM on March 18, 2004
posted by taumeson at 11:58 AM on March 18, 2004
Oh, and Matt, when you finally produce offspring...you do realize that we own he/she? That's right...you owe us your first born!
</snark>
Seriously Matt, take as long as you need.
posted by plemeljr at 12:10 PM on March 18, 2004
</snark>
Seriously Matt, take as long as you need.
posted by plemeljr at 12:10 PM on March 18, 2004
Why d'you need status.mefi updated? There's already a built-in indicator. If you get a "Connection to www.metafilter.com refused" message, the site's down. If not, the site's up.
posted by DrJohnEvans at 12:36 PM on March 18, 2004
posted by DrJohnEvans at 12:36 PM on March 18, 2004
I'dLikeToSuggestUsingCompressionInOurPostsToReduceTheAmountOfBandwidthUsed.
SpacesAreRedundant!DispenseWithThemForthwith!
IShouldPatentThis!
posted by Blue Stone at 12:38 PM on March 18, 2004
SpacesAreRedundant!DispenseWithThemForthwith!
IShouldPatentThis!
posted by Blue Stone at 12:38 PM on March 18, 2004
Websavvy, I'm not sure what you mean. I'd like to make that "we" include "me", that's why I'm suggesting cashola. I thought getting the server moved was a group project - I didn't realise it wasn't funds but software that was holding Matt back.
Nonetheless, the donate link will be getting a visit from me - that's the first I've seen it.
posted by bonaldi at 12:55 PM on March 18, 2004
Nonetheless, the donate link will be getting a visit from me - that's the first I've seen it.
posted by bonaldi at 12:55 PM on March 18, 2004
rwaaaaarwerennn
chichichi.
I PROCLAIM NO FIGHTING ON MY BIRTHDAY.
oe else we take it back to the hasanyoneeverpunchedsomeonemetatalkthread.
posted by clavdivs at 1:16 PM on March 18, 2004
chichichi.
I PROCLAIM NO FIGHTING ON MY BIRTHDAY.
oe else we take it back to the hasanyoneeverpunchedsomeonemetatalkthread.
posted by clavdivs at 1:16 PM on March 18, 2004
Closet Hosting worked for so long. Sad its come to this.
posted by justgary at 2:21 PM on March 18, 2004
posted by justgary at 2:21 PM on March 18, 2004
seriously, Matt, why don't you finance future upgrades by asking MeFi wannabe's to pay, say, 5 bucks (for commenting rights only) or 10 bucks (full membership for comments + posts) each?
Given the amount of whining that some people do already, can you imagine what MeTa would be like if people had to actually pay to post here? Never mind getting the server out of the closet, we would need to pony up for a whole dedicated data centre just to handle the complaints.
Is this where we beat the lat/long on the user page dead horse again, btw?
posted by dg at 4:16 PM on March 18, 2004
Given the amount of whining that some people do already, can you imagine what MeTa would be like if people had to actually pay to post here? Never mind getting the server out of the closet, we would need to pony up for a whole dedicated data centre just to handle the complaints.
Is this where we beat the lat/long on the user page dead horse again, btw?
posted by dg at 4:16 PM on March 18, 2004
can you imagine what MeTa would be like if people had to actually pay to post here?
they'd whine anyway -- but at least their presence would do some economic good. (I know somebody in the past had to pay to get in and some of them later complained, but you know what? tough shit. they want in, they know what the place is like, so it's their problem. if they're really eager to join, they should cough up some dough and at least help Matt (and the server) out -- or go join MonkeyFilter if they haven't already.
happy birthday clavdivs
posted by matteo at 4:31 PM on March 18, 2004
they'd whine anyway -- but at least their presence would do some economic good. (I know somebody in the past had to pay to get in and some of them later complained, but you know what? tough shit. they want in, they know what the place is like, so it's their problem. if they're really eager to join, they should cough up some dough and at least help Matt (and the server) out -- or go join MonkeyFilter if they haven't already.
happy birthday clavdivs
posted by matteo at 4:31 PM on March 18, 2004
I'dLikeToSuggestUsingCompressionInOurPostsToReduceTheAmountOfBandwidthUsed.
SpacesAreRedundant!DispenseWithThemForthwith!
IShouldPatentThis!
.
posted by smcniven at 6:01 PM on March 18, 2004
SpacesAreRedundant!DispenseWithThemForthwith!
IShouldPatentThis!
.
posted by smcniven at 6:01 PM on March 18, 2004
The idea of having some people as paid members and others not might produce a superiority complex in the former (or an inferiority complex in the latter, or both).
"Well, I paid five dollars for this, so I should be able to ask for 40% more ponies and fuck you!" or some nonsense like that.
posted by antifreez_ at 10:56 AM on March 19, 2004
"Well, I paid five dollars for this, so I should be able to ask for 40% more ponies and fuck you!" or some nonsense like that.
posted by antifreez_ at 10:56 AM on March 19, 2004
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posted by yerfatma at 9:17 AM on March 18, 2004