Why was my thread deleted? December 3, 2005 3:03 PM   Subscribe

Downright rude.
Why was my thread on 03/12/05 on George Best's funeral deleted? If you're deleting threads then explain to the poster. I know Meta is primarily US-based but you have no idea who George Best represented. I'm really livid.
posted by movilla to Bugs at 3:03 PM (51 comments total)

Your thread is here.

It was deleted I think because there was an earlier thread and it was still open.
posted by vacapinta at 3:08 PM on December 3, 2005


You said in the text of the post: "Yes, it was posted already." I don't really understand why you're surprised it was deleted -- it was essentially a repost. It sucks when your heroes die, though, so I'm sorry for that.
posted by MarkAnd at 3:08 PM on December 3, 2005


The other thread was only a week old. Any updates should have gone there.
posted by Gator at 3:09 PM on December 3, 2005


mathowie was raised an Irish catholic and Best was an Orangeman.
posted by Mayor Curley at 3:09 PM on December 3, 2005


Given the "it was posted already" acknowledgement, I especially like the self-righteous indignation over the deletion.
posted by theonetruebix at 3:10 PM on December 3, 2005


"This post was deleted for the following reason: double, posted previously"

the wording is pretty clear.
posted by matteo at 3:10 PM on December 3, 2005


movilla, I'm sorry for your loss, and everyone else's loss who loved George Best. However the other thread was still open. I sent you an email before I removed the thread to explain why it was removed.
posted by jessamyn at 3:12 PM on December 3, 2005


matteo: I dont think most users know how to find their deleted posts in order to see the reason it was deleted. Thats what movilla was asking about.
posted by vacapinta at 3:14 PM on December 3, 2005


Some points.

1. If a thread is deleted then an email should be posted to the originator explaining why it's deleted.

2. What are the rules about 'double postings' when you will get multiple postings about a similar subject within a few days. I've seen various Bush varients posts.

3. Mathowie? I'm an NI catholic and Best fan. What is your point?

4. M3ta should be evolving beyond it's current spec.
posted by movilla at 3:20 PM on December 3, 2005


as in, we need more double posts?
posted by matteo at 3:23 PM on December 3, 2005


Mathowie? I'm an NI catholic and Best fan. What is your point?

Did I type "irish catholic"? Because I meant "reptilian."
posted by Mayor Curley at 3:24 PM on December 3, 2005


1. I sent you an email before I removed the thread to explain why it was removed.

She did in fact email you.

2. As for bushfilter/newsfilter, people have a hardon for politics here and that's just the way it is, other subjects don't get the same leniency when it comes to 'doubles'. even so, a lot of bush related posts aren't technically doubles, you could just say he's a popular subject.

3. Relax, mathowie is actually head of his own religion, Mefi-ism.

4. Why?
posted by tweak at 3:26 PM on December 3, 2005


Starnge how I never seem to disagree with mathowie's deletions, yet I disagree with almost all of jessamyns.

Maybe there is something wrong with me.
posted by The Jesse Helms at 3:37 PM on December 3, 2005


What are the rules about 'double postings'

Are you serious? Have you really never seen a double-post deleted here before? That's hard to imagine from someone who's been a member since January. And double-posts about Bush- or Iraq-related news do in fact get deleted regularly.

p.s. Smart move right now would be to apologize for missing jessamyn's email and getting outraged for no reason. Your call, though.
posted by mediareport at 3:38 PM on December 3, 2005


"Where did it all go wrong, movilla?"
posted by Falconetti at 3:38 PM on December 3, 2005


Tweak:
I've never received any email explaining the deletion.

Major Curley:
I'm warm blooded. I don't care what you cold blooded freaks do.

Tweak:
Matt is human. I'm sure he can only eat fish.

Back to my point. Can the deletee get an email?
posted by movilla at 3:41 PM on December 3, 2005


Maybe there is something wrong with me.

I agree.
posted by grouse at 3:42 PM on December 3, 2005


There were numerous Hunter S. Thompson threads (1,2,3,4,5.) If it's American, it flies.
posted by fire&wings at 3:46 PM on December 3, 2005


Back to my point. Can the deletee get an email?

I think this has been covered before, but that's a lot of work for the administrators to do. I think they go with a policy of "if you are concerned with why your post was deleted, email them" and such posters who are concerned will do so.

After all, not everyone cares as much as you do. If you do care, email the administrators and they'll tell you.
posted by dflemingdotorg at 3:47 PM on December 3, 2005


I sent this email about an hour ago to martin@movilla.plus.com which is the address in your profile and the one you signed up with. If you have a different email address, please update your profile with it.

Hi,

I sympathize that the death of George Best has been a huge loss. However, posting a second thread about it in just over a week with just a news update isn't really what MetaFilter is for. Feel free to include the new links you posted in the thread into the open post

your thread: http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/47239
open thread: http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/46972

posted by jessamyn at 3:49 PM on December 3, 2005


How many Pope threads were there, again? Jesus, this is asinine.
posted by hototogisu at 3:50 PM on December 3, 2005


Yeah, the Pope *sucked* at soccer.
posted by arto at 3:56 PM on December 3, 2005


Most of the "double" posts about other deaths tend to have new, interesting information about the person's life and works or unusual death news (such as HSTs burial wishes).

Movilla just posted a load of pictures.

Then again the mushroom thread didn't get deleted. I call conspiracy.
posted by hugsnkisses at 4:00 PM on December 3, 2005


Jessamyn, I got your email at 22:44 Uk time (checked email at 23:53.

I know I don't check my email all the time.

Hoto: The Pope is divine. He can have as many threads as he can produce.
posted by movilla at 4:03 PM on December 3, 2005


yeah, but no one ever took a body to a funeral home and was asked, "what's this?"
posted by pyramid termite at 4:03 PM on December 3, 2005


It was a crap post, but it wasn't a double, and it contained information that I'm sure a lot of people were not aware of (the funeral.) It was one of the largest British funerals of recent times. I don't really care about this instance, but there is a general slide in quality here, unfortunately.
posted by fire&wings at 4:04 PM on December 3, 2005


Fire&wings. I dont get it. Why was it a crap post?
posted by movilla at 4:14 PM on December 3, 2005


Movilla, am I misunderstanding or were you complaining about not receiving an email from an admin before you had even checked your email account?
posted by amro at 4:15 PM on December 3, 2005


Two topics that won't get much sympathy on MeFi are wifebeaters and sports.
posted by mischief at 4:16 PM on December 3, 2005


But we like drunks.
posted by Falconetti at 4:17 PM on December 3, 2005


So when we say "the Best of the Web", we don't really mean "the George Best of the Web"? Well, that's confusing. I started coming here for the George Best fan info, and now you're telling me that I've been mislead all along? I thought "George Bush" was code for "George Best", and that we've been talking about him everyday for the past few years. (Although I was a bit confused about how all that stuff about american politics got worked in there, but I always thought it was a metaphor)

alternativtely:

It's just one more way for the man (or in this case, the woman) to keep you down. An international conspiracy against anything Best-related. Yowza!
posted by blue_beetle at 4:19 PM on December 3, 2005


mischief, however, gets gobs of sympathy. I suggest posting about him, in the future.
posted by hototogisu at 4:19 PM on December 3, 2005


George Best was a wife-beating alcoholic asshole. Since the rest of the internet is ignoring that little fact, I'm glad that MeFi isn't obsessing over him. He's no great loss.

(And I'm Northern Irish, so I can't turn on the TV right now without him being all over it.)
posted by speranza at 4:20 PM on December 3, 2005


Downright rude. ... I'm really livid.

No one wants to be mean to you because you're in mourning, etc. But you've played this pretty rudely yourself.

Email notification is by the grace of the admins. It's good customer service. Not an entitlement. You make it sound like if you're going to go to all the trouble to drop a doublepost on their site, the LEAST they owe you is an email. Pshaw.
posted by scarabic at 4:27 PM on December 3, 2005


amro: Yes. I got no email regarded a delete post.

Speranza: Each to their own. Yes, George Best was a piss head but I remember him when he was good.

George Best, at worst, a scumbag but he was also someone that made me proud to be northern irish. Drunkard that he was, at least he wasn't Ian Paisley or Gerry Adams.
posted by movilla at 4:37 PM on December 3, 2005


scarabic: Surely deletions should automatically send an email to the poster. It makes life a whole lot easier. I could do the like in a Korn/Perl script.

Scarabic: why am I playing this rudely?
posted by movilla at 4:44 PM on December 3, 2005


I posted this double and got away with it based on it's context. I did get some schooling about my set up, and that was cool too. So please don't be offended. It's definately not an "America vs. The World" thing. Just an honest mistake on your part for doubling.
posted by snsranch at 4:44 PM on December 3, 2005



I think Bonaldi's going to be the most upset by this deletion.
posted by sgt.serenity at 4:44 PM on December 3, 2005


You're playing this rudely by calling into question the entire "spec" of the site, attributing the deletion to US-centrism, and by repeatedly demanding an email when you've already gotten one (and ignoring the post the admin made in this thread telling you so) and by barging into MeTa all "livid" and righteous instead of just reading your email and maybe posting a thread here for q&a and discussion about what happened.

Surely deletions should automatically

Surely, my foot. This is your expectation. Don't foist it on the admins and consider it obvious that they should just do as you say (especially when they already blippin' have).
posted by scarabic at 4:48 PM on December 3, 2005


scarabic: Surely deletions should automatically send an email to the poster. It makes life a whole lot easier. I could do the like in a Korn/Perl script.

So what if they did? You'd get an auto-email from a script but not from a person? *snort*

No one knows why you're playing this rudely, but that's not what you asked. You probably meant "how am I playing this rudely?", to which the only appropriate response "your inability to receive the same emails from the admins everyone else seems to get just fine is not this community's problem, so stop being an irrational dick about it."
posted by hototogisu at 4:51 PM on December 3, 2005


(on preview) scarabic, you rock. That was very well put.
posted by snsranch at 4:54 PM on December 3, 2005


Drunkard that he was, at least he wasn't Ian Paisley or Gerry Adams.

That's a little simple. Simpleton.
posted by gsb at 4:57 PM on December 3, 2005


"George Best ... a scumbag ... (d)runkard ... made me proud to be northern irish."

Heh.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 5:05 PM on December 3, 2005


I don't want to start a pileon here, especially since this is a clearly a lousy day for movilla.
posted by scarabic at 5:06 PM on December 3, 2005


scarabic: Read back. The US-centrism was an off-shoot. The key point was a lack of specifics for the deletion. It's not a big deal to have an automatic email that says a post is deleted. I could write the code in a few hours.
posted by movilla at 5:06 PM on December 3, 2005


sigh.
posted by scarabic at 5:11 PM on December 3, 2005


Breath deep.
posted by movilla at 5:12 PM on December 3, 2005


i say deletion notices should be sent by singing telegram ... and believe me, i'm going to be pissed if something of mine gets deleted and i don't get one
posted by pyramid termite at 5:15 PM on December 3, 2005


Believe it or not,
Your message is gone,
There's a message at your door,
You fucked it up,
It's a double, you scum,
How dumb could you be,
It's a good thing we found you at hoooooome

posted by dflemingdotorg at 5:20 PM on December 3, 2005


Arg, message in two straight lines.

I feel worse than you do.
posted by dflemingdotorg at 5:21 PM on December 3, 2005


It took me at least an hour to figure out that 3/12/05 was 12/3/05. Cripes.

Anybody who said, "I used to go missing a lot...Miss Canada, Miss United Kingdom, Miss World..." and backed it up deserves at least two posts.
posted by my sock puppet account at 5:22 PM on December 3, 2005


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