Drunk posting October 9, 2001 6:33 AM   Subscribe

I've got a headache too, and I'm not the one with a hangover.
posted by jpoulos to Etiquette/Policy at 6:33 AM (12 comments total)

I've talked myself blue over this issue, so I'll keep it brief. This thread is here "for the record".
posted by jpoulos at 6:34 AM on October 9, 2001

OK, was I out of line trying to shut him down? Threads like this are annoying me as much as they are jpoulos, it would seem.

That said, when the community comes out and creates a never-to-be-lost bookmark-candidate like this, I rejoice. Fine line, huh?
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 6:43 AM on October 9, 2001

OK, was I out of line trying to shut him down?

Yes. If you really believe in the guidelines, one of them is use MetaTalk for complaints about how people are posting on MetaFilter.
posted by rcade at 7:04 AM on October 9, 2001

you all take this too seriously.

somebody suggested pancakes. quality!

i've had enough of reading about WTC and the mad towel-heads.

PS - my hangover is now in its death throes. my head is clearing, i'm not so dehydrated and i quite fancy a BK triple melt for din dins.

posted by Frasermoo at 7:24 AM on October 9, 2001

I believe in the mystical power of kegel exercises. I believe Hitler had three balls. I believe in the relativity of moral judgement. I believe I need another beer.

I don't 'believe' in the MeFi guidelines. I think they're a little artificial to be honest, but I do respect them, as I want to be part of this community.

Let's not get all secret-society here and talk about 'believing in rules', please, rcade.

I pointed out the page, snarkily, as is SOP as I understand it. I felt it was unnecessary to take it here, as the whole metadiscussion about threads of this kind has been done to fucking death, as jpoulos implies above.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 7:25 AM on October 9, 2001

Glad to hear you're feeling better, Frasermoo! I'll be in similar shape tomorrow, half a world away.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 7:26 AM on October 9, 2001

Query: if Frasermoo had pointed (slightly more specifically) here, and made the focus of his post slightly more the site and not his achy-breaky head, would that have been guideline-sufficient? In other words, is it a matter of how-you-frame-the-post? Or the pancakes?

posted by BT at 7:29 AM on October 9, 2001

Pulling it back a notch, and actually listening to what rcade was saying, I have a query too : is it considered a Bad Thing to tell people inline that they've trangressed? I mean, the glee with which people jump on double-posts and such leads me to believe that the self-policing around here is a 'tell someone when they've done something that by your understanding of how the community works is inappropriate' rather than a 'let it stand and tell them to go to Metatalk and take thyself hence to MetaTalk and there say : This is a bad thing over there' kind of thing.

If I've missed a significant point here, I'd like to know. My assumption is that when something's out of line with policy to one degree or another, one should flag it with a comment inline, and only if necessary take it to MeTa....(I get the sense that it's past my bedtime and I'm disappearing up my own butt here...)
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 7:42 AM on October 9, 2001

and it is conversations like this which pushed me in the direction of a rude amount of beer on sunday.
posted by Frasermoo at 7:49 AM on October 9, 2001

That's good, right?
posted by rodii at 11:29 AM on October 9, 2001

OK, was I out of line trying to shut him down?

No. While it's true that Metatalk serves to separate discussion about the topic from discussion about the post, I think that we can use some common sense about the separation. Matt can correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me like there's always been some in-thread criticism, at least since I joined Metafilter. Since a lot of new members don't even read Metatalk at first, I think that's very necessary. Particularly after all this growth.

Anyway, the rule I've seen used is this: when discussion about a criticism grows and begins to dominate a thread, it should go to Metatalk. But a few comments here and there generally don't hurt, and serve to educate the large number of people who don't read Metatalk regularly.
posted by gd779 at 3:41 PM on October 9, 2001

You line the puppies up and I'll kick 'em, in the name of Infinite Pancake Justice.

stavros the wonder chicken, that should be Enduring Pancake Freedom, if you've been keeping up with America's New Meme.
posted by JDC8 at 12:29 AM on October 10, 2001

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