back in the day, there was no snark October 19, 2001 11:19 AM   Subscribe

just another old-timer rant
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posted by sawks to MetaFilter-Related at 11:19 AM (16 comments total)

i was inspired to post this here, but i guess metatalk would be more appropriate, even though we've gone over this ad infinitum recently...

everyone see those links in the sidebar - 'one year ago' and ' two years ago' ?

i think i'm going to start over, and read mefi from the beginning (again), hopefully by the time i catch up to present day, things will have settled down

i've been coming here (and loving it) every day since feb 00, but the last couple of months have really been giving me the shits

i don't know about anyone else, but when i discover a great website i'm happy to sit there for hours (if not days) until i've read the whole archive - consider that while you think about how enjoyable reading 2 or 3 concurrent weeks of recent mefi would be

if you haven't read the about page lately, maybe you should, because it talks about mefi being a place where we can discuss unique things found on the web, which is what i think we should try and start doing again....
posted by sawks at 11:21 AM on October 19, 2001


Sawks: speaking as a newbie and simultaneous poster(see below) I enjoy the banter on the cartoon thread you mention and hate to think we'd lose those comments, that give-and-take, if it was seen to be a double-post beforehand. It's funny and keeps us all from becoming boring sods. If there were a permanent testing? 1?2? Is this thing working thread?(Copyright Poulos) then this essential part of MetaFilter's character could be encouraged and preserved, while uncluttering the front page.
posted by MiguelCardoso at 11:31 AM on October 19, 2001


Sawks - It's a newbie take-over. Batten down the hatches, & don't trust anyone over 30!
posted by thekorruptor at 12:00 PM on October 19, 2001


Sawks - It's a newbie take-over. Batten down the hatches, & don't trust anyone over 30!
posted by thekorruptor at 12:00 PM on October 19, 2001


funny, that double post was not intended...
posted by thekorruptor at 12:04 PM on October 19, 2001


Miguel: see what i said in your adjacent thread :)

in my opinion its no longer funny (more like ARRRGH) when this is followed directly by this...
posted by sawks at 12:04 PM on October 19, 2001


<smile>long time reader, first time poster</smile>

maybe matt <hi there :-)> could trust a few of the more keener, posters with a kinda "delete multiple thread" permission to his servers!!???
posted by monkeyJuice at 12:29 PM on October 19, 2001


Hey... here's a crazy idea... how about making the front page posts just a teensy bit less cryptic? Like... I dunno, if you were posting about johncoltrane.com, you might want to actually use the phrase "johncoltrane.com" instead of

"Some good music . . . and a nice flash implementation of access to it. A respite from the toil and strife of the day."

That way, when the search times out, you don't have to carefully inspect every single post to see what it's really about, and instead can take a sec to scan recent posts (or your memory of them) to find that, inevitably, you're a day late and a dollar short.

posted by stefanie at 12:46 PM on October 19, 2001


maybe matt could trust a few of the more keener, posters with a kinda "delete multiple thread" permission to his servers!!???

We've suggested a "deputy" system numerous times but I don't think he's going for it....
posted by owillis at 1:56 PM on October 19, 2001


It's a newbie take-over. Batten down the hatches, & don't trust anyone over 30!

Shouldn't it be: don't trust anyone with id over 1100?
posted by mkn at 3:48 PM on October 19, 2001


I concur! Anyone with an id over 1100 is obviously a criminal.
posted by kaefer at 5:25 PM on October 19, 2001


You just don't get it, MiguelCardoso...elements of the system are resisting evolutionary processes and pressures--to the point of seeking suicide (appealing for the closure of MeFi) rather than having to cope. They don't want to grow, change, deepen, broaden, suffer, misstep, stumble, run. They want to sup forever on the teat of nostalgia and dream of what never was rather than what might be.

I think it's sad. I also think they'll probably win in the end.
posted by rushmc at 7:31 PM on October 19, 2001


No they won't, rushmc. I might not get it, but will you deny there's a strange kind of dialectical spark between the two camps that keeps both alive? People who say "shut me down!" are probably just asking to be smacked by Daddy or expressing their guilt for having done something silly. The thing is, though, the consciousness is definitely there. They prove your pluralist stand is right in an extreme way.

Plus, you must agree they are often funny and good at pricking at - oh shit here comes the difficult-to-translate part - hot air ego-balloons that have grown too big for their own good.

It's the non-suicidal ones I'm afraid of, but they're few and far between and anyway lack the necessary dedication or intelligence to do any significant harm.


posted by MiguelCardoso at 8:05 PM on October 19, 2001


People who say "shut me down!" are probably just asking to be smacked by Daddy or expressing their guilt for having done something silly.

I think many of them resent the loss of something they valued and became possessive of and now want destroyed (because it's no longer what it once was to them), even though many other people still value it for their own reasons. In other words, no, they are NOT expressing their desire to be brought back into the fold as MC suggests, they are selfishly expressing petty, bitter, destructive desires.
posted by mattpfeff at 8:18 AM on October 20, 2001


it could also be shock value...make people think what about things have gone so wrong that people would rather bury the place.

or it could be like that sick old dog you've had for 14 years, it's just time to put it down.

or it could just be a desperate cry for attention.
posted by Mick at 8:46 AM on October 20, 2001


The part where Andre Gregory srarts ranting about how the concentration camps of the future will be run by the inmates in My Dinner With Andre comes to mind...

I, myself, would settle for a girlfriend and an electric blanket at this point. Beyond this, I am of no fixed opinion.
posted by y2karl at 7:32 AM on October 21, 2001


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