What is the Policy on Chatfilter? June 3, 2006 9:59 AM   Subscribe

Why does this guy get a new asshole for not being scientific about his very unscientific question, when two complete morons, not to mention a related question, get helpful advice?

Chatfilter, yeah, but Christ -- so is half of AskMe.

Really. Tell me.
Is it simply the ebb and flow of the universe that requires some dumb questions go down in flames while others get answered?
Or is there a secret formula that evokes pity rather than scorn?
posted by Methylviolet to Etiquette/Policy at 9:59 AM (44 comments total)

Most MeFites parents were very nice people.
posted by knave at 10:05 AM on June 3, 2006


This is why that first thread you mention turned nasty.
posted by nowonmai at 10:13 AM on June 3, 2006


jacobean was bein' a jackass. That's the secret formula for provoking scorn.

Next.
posted by CunningLinguist at 10:19 AM on June 3, 2006


It's the weekend. Go outside and do something with yourself instead of potentially flaming out here.
posted by SeizeTheDay at 10:19 AM on June 3, 2006


I think it might be tidal.

I've asked some dumb questions in my time. Some days people are nice about answering them, some days people are dicks. It's the internet. Get used to it.
posted by graventy at 10:21 AM on June 3, 2006


If I had responded, I sure as hell would have quoted SCIENCE.
posted by found missing at 10:24 AM on June 3, 2006


People don't always act consistently. You might want to get used to that.
posted by smackfu at 10:25 AM on June 3, 2006


Well, it's pouring down monsoon rain here so I'd prefer watching a flameout, personally.
posted by CunningLinguist at 10:25 AM on June 3, 2006


squid can sense fear.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 10:27 AM on June 3, 2006 [1 favorite]


Ebb and flow, sometimes the tide brings in big healthy fish that get caught in the pools, othertimes the tide leaves behind unidentifiable nasty shit.
posted by mischief at 10:43 AM on June 3, 2006


All of those threads seem to turn out just fine.
posted by brain_drain at 10:48 AM on June 3, 2006


Why all the self-loathing, Methyl? Don't call yourself a complete moron if your question was on the winning side of the proposition.

And the reason people answered yours is because you have pretty, pretty hair.
posted by SassHat at 10:52 AM on June 3, 2006


lock/delete/ban/enema
posted by ludwig_van at 11:05 AM on June 3, 2006


This is why that first thread you mention turned nasty.

There was a tangent about "confirmation bias" but the thread overall does not look nasty to me. Nor do the other questions appear the work of "complete morons."

Methylviolet is freaking out and throwing up hands as if this is some kind of night-and-day, black-and-white gross injustice. I see nothing of the kind. All of those threads appear to follow the same AskMe process of muddling it out along the way.
posted by scarabic at 11:06 AM on June 3, 2006


People don't always act consistently. You might want to get used to that.

This seems to be the answer to half of the questions asked on MetaTalk. Not only should you get used to different people doing different things in different situations, but you should learn to appreciate it as a large part of what makes MetaFilter interesting.
posted by scottreynen at 11:17 AM on June 3, 2006


binge and purge, binge and purge
posted by edgeways at 11:38 AM on June 3, 2006


...Up until now, Matt's greatst concern was watching his young child blow spit bubbles. Entranced by the simplistic life of his small, delicate offspring, he no doubt wondered why everything else in life couldn't be so beautiful and relaxing.

But like a soiled diaper...
posted by Smart Dalek at 11:43 AM on June 3, 2006


This post is actually quite compelling if you imagine it spoken by an angry Zell Miller.
posted by brain_drain at 11:47 AM on June 3, 2006


Fuck Zell Miller.
posted by scarabic at 11:54 AM on June 3, 2006


Ted Stevens of Alaska would be just as fitting.
posted by Smart Dalek at 11:58 AM on June 3, 2006


Sheesh, IT'S A WEBSITE. There's a lot more out there, Stop trying to define MeFi, that has been done so many times. All of us can't agree so let it rest. Maybe Matt or Jess can link to MeCha on the FAQ along with a disclaimer saying that sort of thing is frowned upon here.
posted by wheelieman at 12:02 PM on June 3, 2006


#undef MeFi

better?
posted by b1tr0t at 12:25 PM on June 3, 2006


Saying "confirmation bias" isn't tearing him a new one. It's just saying that maybe he's suffering from confirmation bias. Personally, I thought his comment (as nowonmai pointed out) was a bit uncalled for.
posted by ObscureReferenceMan at 12:30 PM on June 3, 2006


Why does this guy get a new asshole for not being scientific

Where does this happen? I've read the thread twice, and I honestly don't see anyone even coming remotely close to ripping him any new holes, on his butt or anywhere else.
posted by iconomy at 12:33 PM on June 3, 2006


If we're finished excoriating Methylviolet, I'll hijack this MeTa to ask: What's our collective opinion regarding AskMe double posts?

Personally, I'd delete it. I have loads of sympathy for the kid; but I think AskMe has already done what little we can for him, and it's perfectly appropriate that most replies are pointing back to the older thread telling him, "Do that stuff." He needs help and he's reaching out and that's understandable, but how many threads are we going to devote to the same guy's broken-heart story?
posted by cribcage at 12:35 PM on June 3, 2006


Is it simply the ebb and flow of the universe that requires some dumb questions go down in flames while others get answered?

santa claus is a fat, unshaven fucker, and your mommy let your daddy put his thing inside her and that's how you got made. life just sucks, don't it?
posted by quonsar at 12:38 PM on June 3, 2006


Methylviolet, is someone paying you by the MeTa post? Jesus.
posted by LittleMissCranky at 1:32 PM on June 3, 2006


for not being scientific about his very unscientific question

His question wasn't "unscientific". Science had an answer for him, but it wasn't the answer he wanted.

I didn't think people were being that hard on him. If I had, I would've cut down on the snark at the start of my reply.
posted by hydrophonic at 1:34 PM on June 3, 2006


Nowonmai has it. I read the thread, saw his comment and moved on, but I was still thinking about it, and his attitude pissed me off, so I went back and snarked at hiim.
posted by bonaldi at 1:35 PM on June 3, 2006


Is it simply the ebb and flow of the universe that requires some dumb questions go down in flames while others get answered?

Confirmation bias.
posted by bingo at 1:37 PM on June 3, 2006


Why do birds suddenly appear , every time you are near ?

Confirmation bias.
posted by sgt.serenity at 2:26 PM on June 3, 2006


you have to bribe the cabal before you get your question answered politely ... i thought everyone knew that
posted by pyramid termite at 2:31 PM on June 3, 2006


cribcage writes "If we're finished excoriating Methylviolet, I'll hijack this MeTa to ask: What's our collective opinion regarding AskMe double posts?"

As long as the same person isn't posting the same question every week I think we have got to let them slide, the expertise that sees any one question varies greatly from day to day and any follow up details can direct the thread in may directions.
posted by Mitheral at 3:36 PM on June 3, 2006


As other people have pointed out, the poster specifically said he didn't want to hear science about a scientific question, which is absurd.
posted by delmoi at 4:16 PM on June 3, 2006


As far as your questions, well, we have diffrent rules for Ask and MeTa.
posted by delmoi at 4:16 PM on June 3, 2006


Mitheral, it's one user who posted both those questions.
posted by occhiblu at 5:05 PM on June 3, 2006


Mitheral, that IS the same person, posting more or less the same question.
posted by delfuego at 5:40 PM on June 3, 2006


Yeah but there’s nothing about the first thread that would attract the same people/attention to the second... I’d guess that he’d get more content to work with by asking a similar question on exactly the same subject a week or two later.
posted by Yeomans at 5:41 PM on June 3, 2006


...because the people from the first post would skip a near-repeat.
posted by Yeomans at 5:44 PM on June 3, 2006


Or is there a secret formula that evokes pity rather than scorn?

I dunno, I'm feeling both for you right about now.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 7:45 PM on June 3, 2006


What's our collective opinion regarding AskMe double posts?

the one you're talking about kind of rubs me the wrong way ... he got good advice in the first thread and really didn't have any change in his circumstances by the time he posted the second thread ... except some time passed by

if he didn't like the advice given, i don't know why he thinks he's going to get any different advice now

if he needs repetitive consolation and reinforcement, i don't think he's asking for it in the right place ... he should get it from the people around him, not here

i didn't bother replying to the 2nd one
posted by pyramid termite at 8:35 PM on June 3, 2006


The second one should have been/be deleted.
posted by dgaicun at 10:08 PM on June 3, 2006


"Or is there a secret formula that evokes pity rather than scorn?"

It ain't postin' to MeTa. This was dumb.

On the double? Delete it. If he still doesn't know that he dodged a bullet, there's nothing else that can be done for him.
posted by klangklangston at 6:34 AM on June 4, 2006


Thank you all for your replies.

I think you have answered my question.
I linked to three of my questions, one that I admitted to be vague and ignorant, and two MetaTalks, that I now realize were dumb.

It seems to me that questions written about people being idiots (including oneself) are well-received, because no one here sees that applying to him.
Questions calling someone on incivility provoke more incivility.

Got it. If you ever see a topic of mine in MetaTalk after this, you'll know I'm trolling. Which I might do. Some of your insults are great.
posted by Methylviolet at 10:45 AM on June 4, 2006


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