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Could we get a moratorium on YouTube links?
posted by The Jesse Helms to Etiquette/Policy at 2:18 PM (116 comments total)

Why?
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 2:20 PM on June 25, 2006


no
posted by puke & cry at 2:23 PM on June 25, 2006


But the tantrums are so much fun!
posted by interrobang at 2:23 PM on June 25, 2006


You Lose.
posted by public at 2:23 PM on June 25, 2006


No. Deal with it.
posted by disclaimer at 2:25 PM on June 25, 2006


As badly as YouTube plays video (with the sound way out of sync), I don't think that's a compelling reason by itself. If there's no content there, it's bad, whether YouTube or something text-based.
posted by oaf at 2:25 PM on June 25, 2006


No. Go away.
posted by mojohand at 2:25 PM on June 25, 2006


And Iraq links. Also Diebold, Peak Oil, 911 conspiracies, and breaking news. Wait, I have more, let me go get my list...
posted by LarryC at 2:26 PM on June 25, 2006


If the videos that people linked to were on another site, would that make it better? Or is it that you just don't like videos as the subject of posts? Or more likely, is it that you don't like bad/boring videos as the subject of posts (the number of which has been increased by the existance of YouTube), which really means that the problem is not about YouTube but, as ever, about bad posts?

Youtube doesn't shit on the front page. People shit on the front page.
posted by adrianhon at 2:26 PM on June 25, 2006 [1 favorite]


and then matt has to wipe
posted by pyramid termite at 2:27 PM on June 25, 2006


Guns don't kill people? You mean it was the bullets all along?
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 2:28 PM on June 25, 2006


Youtube doesn't shit on the front page. People shit on the front page.
Amen.

I like the YouTube posts. Not all of them, certainly, but I generally find them more interesting than the American politics or law posts.
posted by arcticwoman at 2:28 PM on June 25, 2006


put does he do it standing up?
posted by public at 2:28 PM on June 25, 2006 [1 favorite]


Can we get a moratorium on people asking for youtube moratoria?
posted by Eideteker at 2:33 PM on June 25, 2006


I vote for Eideteker's moratoria.
posted by arcticwoman at 2:34 PM on June 25, 2006


Moratoriums suck. But in the name of restoring some balance, I'd be very happy if Matt would start putting the smack down on video posts that are anything less than amazing.
posted by Galvatron at 2:35 PM on June 25, 2006


Could we get a moratorium on people complaining about YouTube links on mefi?
posted by twiggy at 2:35 PM on June 25, 2006


Oops. people link went to wrong post.
posted by twiggy at 2:36 PM on June 25, 2006


I second the request for a moratorium on moratorium requests.
posted by Bugbread at 2:36 PM on June 25, 2006


hey guys i was going to post youtube to mefi but first i have to update my internet blog and check myspace brb
posted by naxosaxur at 2:37 PM on June 25, 2006


I am fucking sick of people bitching about youtube. Like it or not, a good portion of the best of the web is on you tube.
posted by empath at 2:38 PM on June 25, 2006


The Yardbirds have always been one of my favorite bands, I wish there was some high quality video of them...

oh fuck

kthnxby
posted by marxchivist at 2:39 PM on June 25, 2006


Just keep telling yourself that it'll pass. Remember when you used to have a special day devoted to Flash? You almost never see Flash on the front page now. Let's just hope what ever displaces YouTube isn't worse.
posted by Mitheral at 2:39 PM on June 25, 2006


a good portion of the best of the web is on you tube.

Bullshit. A good portion of mindless video is on youtube, which is cool once in a while, but not all the damn time like it's posted now. Too much of anything sucks here.
posted by SeizeTheDay at 2:40 PM on June 25, 2006


SeizeTheDay : "Too much of anything sucks here."

I suggest a moratorium on text.
posted by Bugbread at 2:43 PM on June 25, 2006


I'm all for it bugbread. I remember a time when a great deal of people were asking for a MetaFilter vacation, so that when it came back people had a renewed sense of what MeFi was all about and brought good stuff to the table.
posted by SeizeTheDay at 2:44 PM on June 25, 2006


NO
posted by rollbiz at 2:49 PM on June 25, 2006


I'd be very happy if Matt would start putting the smack down on video posts that are anything less than amazing.

Seconded, but it's not going to happen. Bar's way too low for YouTube links on the front page, and is only going to stay there (or go even lower) as time goes on. Best to learn to skip them.
posted by mediareport at 2:51 PM on June 25, 2006


Summer vacation?
posted by RufusW at 2:52 PM on June 25, 2006


I'd like to save the entire MeFi database in .avi format and then upload it to youtube
posted by matteo at 2:55 PM on June 25, 2006


and Sen. Helms: no, it'll never happen, because with video links you don't have to read all those dam words, some of them even multisyllabic, that make one's eyes huwt. so they're really popular, and it's all about that in the end.

that, and zany askmefi questions.
posted by matteo at 2:57 PM on June 25, 2006


Video is the future of the internet. Go back to lynx, TJH.
posted by mischief at 2:58 PM on June 25, 2006


When I was a kid, all we had were animated gifs.
posted by NinjaTadpole at 2:58 PM on June 25, 2006


NinjaTadpole : "When I was a kid, all we had were animated gifs."

When I was a kid, all we had was interlaced gifs, and we imagined each line being downloaded as animation.
posted by Bugbread at 3:00 PM on June 25, 2006


I would be much happier if YouTube posts contained some information about what they will be beyond a cryptic title ("Kelly likes shoes" is an egregious example). Is it going to be a video blog? A commercial? A music video? A comedy skit? A news item? A TV show? An amusing home video? A tedious home video?
Something else?

Armed with this kind of information, we can decide whether it's worth 2-10 minutes of our time to watch. Without it, we have 2-10 minutes of our lives stolen whilst we find out what it is, and become irritable and snarky as a result.
posted by nowonmai at 3:03 PM on June 25, 2006


I'd like to save the entire MeFi database in .avi format and then upload it to youtube

As an OS X user, I would like a moratorium on AVI.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 3:03 PM on June 25, 2006


I don't get the hate either. We linked to videos in the past, now there's more of them to link too.
posted by delmoi at 3:04 PM on June 25, 2006


Armed with this kind of information, we can decide whether it's worth 2-10 minutes of our time to watch. Without it, we have 2-10 minutes of our lives stolen whilst we find out what it is, and become irritable and snarky as a result.

Or you could take a few seconds to scan the comments.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 3:04 PM on June 25, 2006


Combine the automatic conversion of all video formats to a single universal one, and the tipped point of most people having high speed access, like it or not, Youtube and Google Video are the current soup de jour of the internet. Might as well curse the rain for getting you wet.

When they perfect high speed olfactory transmissions via the web, you can expect the front page to be linking to 600 kinds of ass smells.
posted by crunchland at 3:06 PM on June 25, 2006


Adding to what crunchland said, youtube and Google video do provide a good service by making video bandwidth free to the creator/uploader for the first time.

I think video has been held back online due to bandwidth constraints, especially anything linked on a popular site would either crash a server or result in a thousand dollar bandwidth bill.

So now, video's free and unencumbered and linked heavily on blogs, including this one. I do wish people were more descriptive and I do wish only the best of the best was posted, but maybe I'll force myself to watch them all and pull the esp. dumb ones, but in the meantime, passing over youtube links might be the answer.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 3:25 PM on June 25, 2006


"You almost never see Flash on the front page now."

Except for, you know, the youtube links.

(What does OS X have to do with AVI? Or is this a quicktime is dumb and proprietary thing?)

I do agree with nowonmai that you should, you know, tell us what we're about to watch. Because if the whole link depends on the surprise of whatever the hell it is, then it's probably not that great as a standalone post. Not everyone likes "what the hell is it? what am I watching?" as the premise of a post. Sometimes it's nice to watch something random unfold, but I can see how that would get annoying several times a week.
posted by Eideteker at 3:32 PM on June 25, 2006


YouTube Friday?
posted by muckster at 3:34 PM on June 25, 2006


metafilter: 600 kinds of ass smells
posted by pyramid termite at 3:35 PM on June 25, 2006 [1 favorite]


hyesno!
posted by thirteenkiller at 3:40 PM on June 25, 2006


As an OS X user, I would like a moratorium on AVI.

Huh? Why? It's the only consistently reliable video format on OS X.
posted by dobbs at 3:40 PM on June 25, 2006


Maybe it's along the lines of YouTube:Internet::AVI:OS X? That is, "YouTube pretty much is video for the internet. AVI pretty much is video for OS X. Putting a moratorium on YouTube on an internet site is like putting a moratorium on AVI on OS X"?
posted by Bugbread at 3:46 PM on June 25, 2006 [1 favorite]


I find I have to manually install various different audio and video codecs to get Windows AVIs to work on Macs. Just my experience, but it was only meant in a joking manner, in any case.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 3:47 PM on June 25, 2006


YouTube Friday?

An idea that bears repeating. Or maybe YouTube Tuesday, because it rolls off the tongue better.
posted by mkultra at 3:48 PM on June 25, 2006


Oh for fuck's sake.
posted by languagehat at 3:52 PM on June 25, 2006 [1 favorite]


(That's a response to this dumbass post, not mkultra's comment.)
posted by languagehat at 3:53 PM on June 25, 2006


There really needs to be some sort of a consensus worked out on what exactly constitutes a good video link. As things go now, the bar is way lower for them then for any other "text based" links. I mean, if I linked to some girl's blog about how her day went, people would bitch and moan to no end and the link would be deleted. But if I link to a video of a girl lipsynking to some stupid pop song, people mark it as a favorite. It almost looks like that the reading is the bothersome part. We'll put up with lousy, repetitive, shallow, old links as long as we don't have to read.
Why turn MetaFilter into a TV when there is one sitting in the room already?
posted by c13 at 3:53 PM on June 25, 2006


Also, what's next? Flickr has a whole bunch of photos, and some of them are pretty decent. It also has a pretty robust server, so should be start linking to what we like there as well? And if not, why?
posted by c13 at 3:56 PM on June 25, 2006


Wikipedia Wednesday
posted by RufusW at 4:00 PM on June 25, 2006


Metatalk Monday, for FPPs that usually go here.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 4:02 PM on June 25, 2006


c13 : "Why turn MetaFilter into a TV when there is one sitting in the room already?"

Not a blanket defense of YouTube (there's plenty of bad mixed in with the good), but if TV had half the variety of YouTube, I'd watch it more.
posted by Bugbread at 4:03 PM on June 25, 2006


Or maybe YouTube Tuesday, because it rolls off the tongue better.

YouTubesday?
posted by Gator at 4:06 PM on June 25, 2006


c13, there are twice as many posts with the flickr tag vs. the youtube tag, but you're missing my point entirely.

I'm just saying that youtube lowers the bar for everyone, and that's a good thing for people that couldn't afford to put video online for free until now.

Apart from that and mostly unrelated is the opinion that forms around youtube posts here. I think people have always gone "meh" and "this sucks" to most posts, it's just that youtube is kind of a scapegoat because often you have to watch a minute or two to realize it sucks instead of a quick glance at a page, and you feel more ripped off for having invested the time in a dumb video.

I don't watch half the videos here because I have work to do and sitting passively watching video all day seems to waste too much time. But I'll always watch the flag queue and so far, not too many youtube links get reported.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 4:06 PM on June 25, 2006


Just keep telling yourself that it'll pass. Remember when you used to have a special day devoted to Flash? You almost never see Flash on the front page now. Let's just hope what ever displaces YouTube isn't worse.

The irony here being that Google and Youtube use Flash to play the video.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 4:19 PM on June 25, 2006


Then why not just watch YouTube, bugbread? When you DO watch TV, do you constantly call your friends and tell them to flip to a particular channel because there's some cool shit going on?

But that's not my point. It looks like internet video is becoming more and more widespread. We didn't have to worry about it before that much simpliy because there wasn't all that much to link to. But things are changing. Is MetaFilter going to become a YouTube filter as well? If so, under what criteria?

On preview: Well, I suppose watching the flag queue is one way of doing that. I also think that a mandatory [YouTube] or [Video] tag would be pretty useful.
posted by c13 at 4:19 PM on June 25, 2006


c13 : "Then why not just watch YouTube, bugbread?"

Too much bad mixed with the good. That's why I like a filtered selection.

c13 : "When you DO watch TV, do you constantly call your friends and tell them to flip to a particular channel because there's some cool shit going on?"

No, and when I browse the net, I don't constantly call my friends and tell them to see a certain site because there's some cool shit on. That (sorting good from bad on the net and then calling other people over to check out the good) is the whole purpose of MetaFilter.
posted by Bugbread at 4:22 PM on June 25, 2006


When I was young, all we had were .gifs that we had to print out and make into flip-books to animate them.
posted by rollbiz at 4:23 PM on June 25, 2006


Well, maybe you're right, bugbread. I personally don't have anything against YouTube or Flickr or Google video. I go there myself pretty often. It just seems like MetaFilter makes for a lousy TV Guide, the proportion of bad and good videos seems to stay the same as on the original site, but the total number in the set goes down.
posted by c13 at 4:29 PM on June 25, 2006


I think getting upset about Youtube and Google Video links is an exercise in point-missing, really.

Look at it this way. Basically, these services solve two problems:

1. Hosting video requires crazy amounts of bandwidth.
2. Posting videos in avi/mov/mpeg/whatever will always result in someone complaining that they're trying to view it on a Mac/Linux/a hamster/whatever and it doesn't work.

So, all of a sudden, you've got free hosting for videos, and the software issues have been solved by doing it in Flash. Great. But why complain about linking to it? It makes no sense to judge something as bad because of where it's hosted. Anyone can upload a video to Youtube, and they're just as different from one another as the average website is from another.

Or, the short version: Thinking rationally, why on earth should a link to a photo gallery of some guy deep-frying a burger be considered superior to a Youtube video of some guy deep-frying a burger? It's the same damn thing.

If I was mathowie, I'd write some little bit of code that would automatically expand Youtube and Google Video links into the embedded Flash players, right there on the front page. So, you know, you should be thankful that I'm not.
posted by reklaw at 4:30 PM on June 25, 2006


When I was young, all we had were BASIC programs on PET computers where you could sort of make an ASCII rocketship look like it was blastin off. And all compuer-related acronyms were was written in ALL CAPS.

I like the YouTibe links. Some of them this week have been brilliant (Stevie Wonder on Sesame Street; I mean, c'mon, brilliant!), and none of these complaints have been about comment -- just the fact that it's YouTube that's getting linked to.
posted by Astro Zombie at 4:32 PM on June 25, 2006


Thinking rationally, why on earth should a link to a photo gallery of some guy deep-frying a burger be considered superior to a Youtube video of some guy deep-frying a burger? It's the same damn thing.

It IS. But link to a blog where a guy is talking about deep-frying a burger is also absolutely no different. And yet the linker would be crucified here.

Animated ASCII porn. Now THAT was cool!
posted by c13 at 4:35 PM on June 25, 2006


c13 : "the proportion of bad and good videos seems to stay the same as on the original site"

True, and if there's a problem, that's what it probably is: It isn't YouTube links that are bad, it's bad YouTube links that are bad.
posted by Bugbread at 4:38 PM on June 25, 2006


When they perfect high speed olfactory transmissions via the web, you can expect the front page to be linking to 600 kinds of ass smells.

Ah.. How I pine for Smell-o-net. I bet Goatse gets used as the test pattern.
posted by Balisong at 4:39 PM on June 25, 2006


You mean this? (ascii deepthroat -nsfw)
posted by puke & cry at 4:39 PM on June 25, 2006


It IS. But link to a blog where a guy is talking about deep-frying a burger is also absolutely no different. And yet the linker would be crucified here.

evidence shows otherwise
posted by delmoi at 4:39 PM on June 25, 2006


Heh heh.. No, I'm talking about the original, where you had to print them all out first.

Delmoi, you kill me.
posted by c13 at 4:44 PM on June 25, 2006


This callout is so totally disingenuous and manipulative. Any jackass who would think to post to MetaTalk knows that there have been umpteen callouts of this ilk recently and none has resounded in a "yes - the ban is in effect" decision. The attempt to pile on the numbers and hope Matt will see some kind of sea change is the disingenuous and manipulative part.
posted by scarabic at 4:46 PM on June 25, 2006 [1 favorite]


Without it, we have 2-10 minutes of our lives stolen whilst we find out what it is, and become irritable and snarky as a result.

So many of Metafilter's problems would be solved if people realized that they don't have to click on every link, nor are they obligated to sit through the entirety of every YouTube video linked here. While I agree that it would be nice to have better descriptions, do you honestly have to force yourself to watch something for two to ten minutes before you decide you don't like it?
posted by MegoSteve at 4:46 PM on June 25, 2006


"You cannot argue with the wind, you can only put your jacket on." (some guy)

I want to see a moritorium on anything hosted on a .com website. Because it's the host that is the problem, right?
posted by blue_beetle at 4:48 PM on June 25, 2006


You mean this? (ascii deepthroat -nsfw)

I like how the dialog is in Morse code.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 4:50 PM on June 25, 2006


Could we get a moratorium on clueless bores asking for a moratorium on things they don't personally like?

I'm not a clueless bore, by the way. I have several clues.
posted by Decani at 4:51 PM on June 25, 2006


Can we get a moratorium on blogspot posts here? I understand it's just one of many mediums for blogs, but because so many blogspot blogs suck a dong, I am prejudiced against that site. Of course if I thought about it, I'd understand that most blogs suck a dong no matter what is used to create them (wordpress, blogger, blogspot, livejournal, myspace), but I don't want to think about it. I just want to bitch about a medium because I've become conceptually biased to hate it regardless of the content therein.

In fact, can we get a moratorium on any posts that were created using the google search engine to find a gaggle of links? I think google might be trying to bring about the end of the world, and I also wanted to say google and gaggle in the same sentence (oh my I've done it twice now). As a tool for finding things, google worships satan so I think that only posts formed by using yahoo or ask searches should be allowed.

Also, I would like a moratorium on comments posted using Internet Explorer. The browser sucks and is riddled with security holes, and I'm sickened by the fact that you actually let people post comments to this site using that pile.

Finally, while it's unrelated to the web, I would also like a moratorium on any programming Dish Network transmits. While I understand that an episode of Deadwood is the same whether I'm watching it via Dish Network, DirecTV or whatever my local Cable Television Monopoly(tm) is called, I just hate Dish Network because I heard they eat babies, so I think we shouldn't allow people to watch any video that is received via Dish Network satellites.
posted by twiggy at 4:53 PM on June 25, 2006


MegoSteve, this usually is my argument as well. However, the reverse one is that this site is supposed to be better than Fark, for example, a site where there are also some good links every now and then, but they are few and far between, and you have to skip a whole lot more shit links just to get to the good ones. Its the "Filter" part that is the key.

Of course I haven't been able to resolve these arguments just like anyone else here...
posted by c13 at 4:54 PM on June 25, 2006


Not to create more work for Matt but maybe if a sentence were added to the Post a Link page suggesting that users refrain from posting YouTube/Google Video links without context, that might make posters think twice. I'm sure it's covered in the posting guidelines page but having it explicitly spelled out could have a stronger effect.
posted by junesix at 5:08 PM on June 25, 2006


When I was young all we had was Winky Dink
posted by mss at 5:13 PM on June 25, 2006


Hey, I just got this crazy idea. How about instead of bitching about the incredibly poor quality of the youtube/bushfilter/flickr/singlelink/editorial/newsfilter posts, you go create your own?

Huh? How about that?

Quit your fucking whining.
posted by graventy at 5:15 PM on June 25, 2006


graventy : "How about instead of bitching about the incredibly poor quality of the youtube/bushfilter/flickr/singlelink/editorial/newsfilter posts, you go create your own?"

Yeah, that's one approach, but if you haven't found something kickass, staying off the blue is the better valour. I think it was somewhere in a FAQ, interview, comment, or the like from mathowie where he said the best posts come from serendipitously finding something. It's not like everyone has a pocket full of kickass links but prefers to post complaints instead. Some folks just avoid posting the shitty stuff that they know about, and would prefer others to have the same tact.
posted by Bugbread at 5:18 PM on June 25, 2006


That is, there are two ways to improve signal:noise ratios = increase signal, or decrease noise.
posted by Bugbread at 5:19 PM on June 25, 2006


MemeTa.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 5:21 PM on June 25, 2006


I've tended to air more on the side of caution with FPPs, in that I'll see a number of somewhat interesting links throughout the day, and more often than not, they appear here later.

The biggest problem we currently have is that no matter what the FPP, one of the first 5 comments will be pure snark.

"So?"
"This sucks."
"This was interesting when I saw it last year."

etc etc.
posted by graventy at 5:24 PM on June 25, 2006


Shit, twiggy, you're so fucking hip and clever! Just remember to wipe.
posted by c13 at 5:29 PM on June 25, 2006


Shit, twiggy, you're so fucking hip and clever! Just remember to wipe.

Is it that hard to admit that twiggy might have a point?
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 5:33 PM on June 25, 2006


I would like a moratorium on ALL THE KIDS ON MY FUCKING LAWN.
posted by spiderwire at 5:59 PM on June 25, 2006


When you DO watch TV, do you constantly call your friends and tell them to flip to a particular channel because there's some cool shit going on?

"Hey Peter, man, check out channel 9"
posted by timeistight at 6:01 PM on June 25, 2006


I think I'm just going to start shoveling my favorites up as a long, continuous set of FPPs. All one link, mostly to Microsoft technet articles about group policy inheritance and stuff.

That'd be better than youtube, huh? Right?
posted by disclaimer at 6:07 PM on June 25, 2006


Death to Youtube! Long live The New Flesh!
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 6:16 PM on June 25, 2006


How about a moratorium on Newsfilter, Jesse? Or trolling?
posted by klangklangston at 6:32 PM on June 25, 2006


YouLose.com
link goes to site that sells Demotivators posters

I thought the informally enforced "Flash Friday" was a pretty successful solution at the time; I wouldn't push the YouTube links onto Tuesday (no matter how good the name sounds), it's always better to do the frivolous stuff on Friday... Hmmm. FRIVOLOUS FRIDAY. And then try to nudge all the newspaper/magazine article links to the weekend, when we have more time to read; call it The Sunday Paperless.

But most importantly, make sure that YouTube and other Video links are clearly labeled, both on the original post and in the tags. Maybe we need a flag for "MISLABELED" or just "POORLY LABELED"...

But this far into the thread, nobody's paying any attention, right?
posted by wendell at 6:34 PM on June 25, 2006


right
posted by puke & cry at 6:55 PM on June 25, 2006


YOUTUBESDAY FOREVER!
posted by delmoi at 7:23 PM on June 25, 2006


links typed on cheap $15 keyboards are ruining metafilter.
posted by quonsar at 9:23 PM on June 25, 2006


Maybe we need a flag for "MISLABELED" or just "POORLY LABELED"...

I kinda like that - some sort of "This post needs a little edit help" flag.
posted by mediareport at 9:28 PM on June 25, 2006


i am a big hater of youtube links, mostly because all the crap there gets posted. regardless, i want no bans. rigid rules and bans and all that crap are worse than the crap we endure from youtube. i would prefer a bit of judgement on the part of the rubes posting all that youtube garbage. there is good stuff there, stick to that, just like the rest of the internets.
posted by caddis at 9:28 PM on June 25, 2006


i would prefer a bit of judgement on the part of the rubes posting all that youtube garbage.

*registers yourube.com*
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 9:31 PM on June 25, 2006


I was thinking more of a Joe Pesci thing, like Youtube Yousday.
posted by Alexandros at 9:32 PM on June 25, 2006


Old and busted: Moratorium.
New hottness: Embargo.

Could we get an embargo on YouTube FPPs?
posted by Zozo at 9:34 PM on June 25, 2006


OK stav, that made me laugh
posted by caddis at 9:38 PM on June 25, 2006


OK stav, that made me laugh

just mark it +fave and move on. stop cluttering up threads with accolades and shit.
posted by carsonb at 10:28 PM on June 25, 2006


die.
posted by shmegegge at 10:37 PM on June 25, 2006


I think that the accepted compromise is to warn people that you are linking to a youtube video. That way, people can skip it if they want to.

Also, has anybody noticed that nobody really complains when someone links to a *good* youtube video, especially one that hasn't already been thoroughly propagated throughout the blogosphere?

Ultimately, I think this problem will sort itself out. When people post questionable youtube links (especially without warning) they will get flamed, and will thus serve as an example to others. Eventually, people will only post youtube links if they're pretty damn sure they're worthwhile.

I think that right now, people are still so impressed by the novelty of youtube itself that they don't take into account that everyone else here has been swimming in youtube for months.

I feel the same way when I see people going apeshit over their ipods. I've been collecting digital music since '99, and I've never seen what's so special about ipods. Same thing, really.
posted by Afroblanco at 10:43 PM on June 25, 2006


I was annoyed to see yet another person complaining about all the YouTube links. However annoying all of you whiners think the youtube posts are, I promise you that your endless bitching is much more harmful to MetaFilter.

But, because you linked to all posts tagged youtube, I found this thread about a kid doing re-enactments from movies like Star Trek and Willy Wonka. I missed the original post, but it was awesome, so thanks for bringing it to my attention whiney and tiresome MeFi chorus.
posted by willnot at 11:29 PM on June 25, 2006


whiney and tiresome MeFi chorus

Huh? From the evidence of this thread, it's The Jesse Helms who's whiny and tiresome; the chorus is telling him to sit down and shut up. (I notice he hasn't bothered to defend himself or admit he was full of shit; he just tossed a rock at the nest and dashed off.)
posted by languagehat at 6:15 AM on June 26, 2006


I like the jesse helms, for this reason alone.
posted by dobie at 6:45 AM on June 26, 2006


twiggy writes "Also, I would like a moratorium on comments posted using Internet Explorer. The browser sucks and is riddled with security holes, and I'm sickened by the fact that you actually let people post comments to this site using that pile."

Now here's a moratoriumembargo I can get behind.

wendell writes "But this far into the thread, nobody's paying any attention, right?"

Are you kidding, this thread is turning into pure comedy gold. We should have a meet up of all the posters and video tape them saying their comments so we could throw it up on youtube.

quonsar writes "links typed on cheap $15 keyboards are ruining metafilter."

What about comments typed on a retail $150 model M pulled out of a dumpster? Are those comments ruining MF?
posted by Mitheral at 6:45 AM on June 26, 2006


"links typed on cheap $15 keyboards are ruining metafilter."

$15 keyboards are cheap?

*gazes sadly upon $5 keyboard*
posted by mr_crash_davis at 7:06 AM on June 26, 2006


I like the jesse helms, for this reason alone.

Oh, yeah, tjh has his moments, and I'm not dismissing him as a MeFi Entity. I just think this is a dumb post, and MeTa is full to overflowing with dumb posts these days, so I'm cranky about it.
posted by languagehat at 7:22 AM on June 26, 2006


Are you kidding, this thread is turning into pure comedy gold. We should have a meet up of all the posters and video tape them saying their comments so we could throw it up on youtube.

This would be awesome.
posted by twiggy at 8:21 AM on June 26, 2006 [1 favorite]


I feel the same way when I see people going apeshit over their ipods. I've been collecting digital music since '99, and I've never seen what's so special about ipods. Same thing, really.

Since 99!!!! OMG!

You're simply too old skool for ipods.
posted by justgary at 9:17 AM on June 26, 2006


One day, a muslimThe Jesse Helms will get drunk, get an anonymous blowjob, and it will change his life forever.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 9:23 AM on June 26, 2006



Since 99!!!! OMG!

You're simply too old skool for ipods.


I had the Rio PMP (PIMP) 300 the year it came out

BOO YA SOMEONE OLD SCHOOL OVER THAT

man, I love opportunities to prove how cool I am to strangers on the internet

Hey, someone bring up Commodore 64s so I can tell you how long I've been playing California Games for. *

*WITH THE EPYX JOYSTICK BOO YAKKA SHA**

** ha ha, just kidding, i didn't have the epyx joystick. i wasn't that cool. there's limits, man.
posted by fishfucker at 10:59 AM on June 26, 2006


I request a moratorium on New Yorker links.
posted by Eideteker at 5:42 PM on June 29, 2006


My comment was never meant to be an "old sk00l" pissing contest attempt. Lots of people were into digital music in '99 - that was Napster/Audiogalaxy-era.
posted by Afroblanco at 8:04 PM on June 29, 2006


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