"Others" Bug October 31, 2006 2:01 PM   Subscribe

The word 'others' on the 'saved as favorites' pages makes no sense and drives me batty. '2 others saved as a favorite' indicates that there is a third person. That's what the word 'others' means. Suggestion: change 'others' to 'users' or 'people' or 'assholes' or any word that is not confusing and inaccurate in that context.
posted by bingo to Bugs at 2:01 PM (95 comments total) 3 users marked this as a favorite

fine, fixed.

(What bingo sees from now on)
posted by mathowie (staff) at 2:13 PM on October 31, 2006 [16 favorites]


I vote for the third one, as it both diminishes the original poster and the assholes who thought the comment was good enough to mark.
Presumably the third person is the one having made to snowf comment int he first place. I see what your saying, but have the capacity to understand its meaning as is.
posted by edgeways at 2:15 PM on October 31, 2006


"People"? You anthropocentric or something? They could be dogs, you know.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 2:22 PM on October 31, 2006


wait..so we have vanity favorite indicators now? Can I get one??

But seriously, bingo (or the reader) is the third person, right?
posted by niles at 2:25 PM on October 31, 2006


And bingo was his name-o.
posted by crunchland at 2:25 PM on October 31, 2006


Make fun of bingo all you like, but I'm right. If 'other' is the user who made the comment, then the implication is that we are all automatically marking all of our own comments as favorites, and that we need to be reminded of this strange fact on a regular basis.
posted by bingo at 2:34 PM on October 31, 2006


We're not douchebags. :(
posted by boo_radley at 2:43 PM on October 31, 2006


fine, fixed.

(What bingo sees from now on)
posted by mathowie


Can I have that too?
posted by timeistight at 2:47 PM on October 31, 2006


Every time I read
Favorites: X saved and contributions from Armitage Shanks saved by others Y times
it's like I have to parse it all over again. I would like a GreaseMonkey script that converts into native English.
posted by Armitage Shanks at 2:47 PM on October 31, 2006


Make fun of bingo all you like, but I'm right.

Which doesn't make you come off as any less of a petulant whiner, alas.
posted by delfuego at 2:48 PM on October 31, 2006


I just laughed.
posted by docpops at 2:50 PM on October 31, 2006


That is teh awesome! Bingo, is that really what you are seeing now?
posted by LarryC at 2:54 PM on October 31, 2006


Make fun of bingo all you like, but I'm right.

Yes, you are. It's completely nonsensical. The only explanation I can come up with is that mathowie forgot to subtract one from the "others" value and now he's so sick of being bugged about it that he's digging his heels in.
posted by timeistight at 2:59 PM on October 31, 2006


(What bingo sees from now on)

But what if bingo does mark it as favorite? Then it would need to say "including yourself, bingo"... This is getting too complicated.
posted by Meatbomb at 3:02 PM on October 31, 2006


Oh, and by the way, matt, I thought you only called me a douchebag. Now I don't feel special anymore.
posted by Meatbomb at 3:04 PM on October 31, 2006


"People"? You anthropocentric or something? They could be dogs, you know.

Ahem.
posted by Ceiling Cat at 3:04 PM on October 31, 2006


Typical.
posted by vraxoin's cats at 3:09 PM on October 31, 2006 [1 favorite]


RIP IMG.
posted by Eideteker at 3:09 PM on October 31, 2006


fine, fixed.

(What bingo sees from now on)
posted by mathowie at 2:13 PM PST on October 31


damn son
posted by Optimus Chyme at 3:25 PM on October 31, 2006


Which doesn't make you come off as any less of a petulant whiner, alas.

Nonsense. 'X others marked this as a favorite' has annoyed me too and has never made a lick of sense. Neither does the fact that the page doesn't give you a link to who has marked something as a favorite if only one person has done so (it only kicks in after two or more), which I assume has remained unfixed since it might involve a db hit rather than just changing the link text.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 3:57 PM on October 31, 2006


bingo: This is just for you.
posted by Doohickie at 4:01 PM on October 31, 2006


I'll add that it also annoys me.
posted by ORthey at 4:04 PM on October 31, 2006


I've always found it rather mangled as well.
posted by scody at 4:20 PM on October 31, 2006


That is teh awesome! Bingo, is that really what you are seeing now?

No, douchebag.
posted by bingo at 4:29 PM on October 31, 2006


Damn, why all the bingo hate? This is a perfectly reasonable comment about the favorites page, especially as elaborated by stavros.

Personally I read "others" as "the bad guys on Lost."
posted by brain_drain at 4:51 PM on October 31, 2006


I'd like to see a crossover miniseries called "The Otherses", featuring the baddies from lost in a conflict with dead Nicole Kidman and her kids.
posted by cortex at 4:55 PM on October 31, 2006


And yeah the anti-bingo thing is weird. It may not be an urgent issue, but it's hardly petulent or whiny to point it out.
posted by cortex at 4:57 PM on October 31, 2006


Why all the negative response? Because this is a classic example of pedantic nitpicking about things that don't matter, and a prime example of feelings of misplaced ownership and false entitlement.

Folks, you're guests here. Cut the host some slack. He doesn't owe you anything. If something like this "drives you batty" then either develop a thicker skin, or go elsewhere.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 4:57 PM on October 31, 2006


Steven C. Den Beste: Fuck you. If I don't like something, I'll stay here and complain about it in whatever way suits me. What are you going to do about it, bitch?
posted by bingo at 4:59 PM on October 31, 2006 [1 favorite]


Fight! Fight!

PS. Now I know why people never threaten physical violence around here. The mental picture of a MeFite in a physical altercation would send anyone into a bout of uncontrollable laughter. I can barely contain myself right now.
posted by SeizeTheDay at 5:03 PM on October 31, 2006


What's with the hostility to the request/suggestion?
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 5:05 PM on October 31, 2006


PS. Now I know why people never threaten physical violence around here. The mental picture of a MeFite in a physical altercation would send anyone into a bout of uncontrollable laughter. I can barely contain myself right now.

I'm so going to kick your ass nerd-slap the living fuck out of you.
posted by loquacious at 5:07 PM on October 31, 2006


Dont you have candy to grab tonight bingo?
posted by wheelieman at 5:07 PM on October 31, 2006


Matt has spoken, I suggest you deal and move on.
posted by wheelieman at 5:08 PM on October 31, 2006


It could use a comma between "saved" and "and", but what's the grammatical problem here?
posted by hoverboards don't work on water at 5:13 PM on October 31, 2006


This burrito is awfully fucking tasty for one purchased at a gas station/convenience store.

Now, what?
posted by mr_crash_davis at 5:32 PM on October 31, 2006


4 others purchased this burrito at a gas station/convenience store.
posted by quonsar at 5:40 PM on October 31, 2006


I did not purchase that burrito.
posted by loquacious at 5:43 PM on October 31, 2006


What are you going to do about it, bitch?

I'm going to laugh at you, for you surely are not deserving of being taken seriously.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 5:50 PM on October 31, 2006


steven C.: easy.

This whole thing is a little ridiculous, but I've drank with bingo a few times and he's a good guy and a good poster. A little kidding is fine, but a pileon is not warranted here, trust me.
posted by jonmc at 5:57 PM on October 31, 2006


I don't understand. Does that make me wrong?
posted by OmieWise at 6:02 PM on October 31, 2006


yes.

*shoots OmieWise*

what a senseless waste of human life. and ammunition.
posted by jonmc at 6:07 PM on October 31, 2006


I have flagged this burrito as "delicious" and I'm moving on.

Except I want another burrito. It was delicious.
posted by loquacious at 6:07 PM on October 31, 2006


Holy shit. Jonmc's a stone cold motherfucking gansta!
posted by loquacious at 6:08 PM on October 31, 2006


burrito, pheh. pips made oatmeal scotchies. they'll be ready soon.
posted by jonmc at 6:08 PM on October 31, 2006


GODDAMNIT THIS THREAD ISN'T ABOUT YOU cookies? I want a cookie!
posted by loquacious at 6:11 PM on October 31, 2006


This burrito tastes like hostility.
posted by Divine_Wino at 6:15 PM on October 31, 2006


Ok. a cookie for you. and one for bingo. but no milk, dammit.
posted by jonmc at 6:15 PM on October 31, 2006


I changed things to show users that only marked it as once.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 6:19 PM on October 31, 2006


I LIKE A EATM PASTE!
posted by quonsar at 6:19 PM on October 31, 2006


Yeah, we douchebags have every reason to be whiney. This burrito bursted my tiny hiney.
posted by If I Had An Anus at 6:24 PM on October 31, 2006


I changed things to show users that only marked it as once.
OK. That clears that up, then.
Huh?
posted by weapons-grade pandemonium at 6:32 PM on October 31, 2006


Yeah, we douchebags have every reason to be whiney

No, vinegary. Let it age a little longer, my friend.
posted by jonmc at 6:34 PM on October 31, 2006


4 others purchased this burrito at a gas station/convenience store.

So, how many burritos is that altogether.
posted by timeistight at 6:37 PM on October 31, 2006


I changed things to show users that only marked it as once.

I honestly don't understand that. And if you changed something, I'm not sure what it is, but it's not what I was talking about. I'm starting to feel like we're not even speaking the same language.
posted by bingo at 6:39 PM on October 31, 2006


I changed things to show users that only marked it as once.

Can someone parse that for the rest of us douchebags?
posted by eustacescrubb at 6:40 PM on October 31, 2006


Wow, this thread really should have been closed after the first comment. Or atleast opened up for the IMG tag.
posted by blue_beetle at 6:47 PM on October 31, 2006


Yeah, I couldn't parse that sentence either, but it still says "others" on the "My Favorites" tab. And it still counts me as one of the "others".

Not that this whole thread hasn't gotten very weird.
posted by timeistight at 6:48 PM on October 31, 2006


burritoed to MetaBurrito at Oct-31-06 at 6:55 AM Pretty Spicy Taco
3 others burritoed this as a burrito
posted by loquacious at 6:52 PM on October 31, 2006


Not that this whole thread hasn't gotten very weird.

As opposed to anyother MeTa thread? Quite frankly I think matt uses the gray as a Weirdness Corrall.
posted by jonmc at 6:53 PM on October 31, 2006


*saddles up his purple-paisley Snark and rides off into the wildly barking otter-meringue marmoset*
posted by loquacious at 6:58 PM on October 31, 2006


I HAVE EATEN THE BURRITOS YOU LEFT IN THE ICEBOX THREAD
FORGIVE ME
THEY WERE DELICIOUS
SO CONGEALED AND SO PETULENT
posted by Arthur "Two Sheds" Jackson at 7:04 PM on October 31, 2006 [2 favorites]


Wendigo by Algernon Blackwood is reccomended. I would not eat the peppered meat or drink the pink punch. The other meats and punches are acceptable. Lastly, I regret my error on the earlier form. I meant filthy sonofabitch, not rotten motherfucker. Thank you.
posted by weretable and the undead chairs at 7:20 PM on October 31, 2006


Your corpse lays before me, so exquisite in the rosy blooms punctuating the firm moonglow parchment of your flesh. The still, slow, velvety-dark circadian breathing of the living night is sharply torn by the rising cries of something so obviously leaving
posted by loquacious at 7:40 PM on October 31, 2006


Ah, ok, so I see the problem here.

bingo just talked about a favorites page, so I worked on the /favorites/your_id page and the /favorites/all page and then I kept seeing complaints so I updated /savedfavorites/user_id as well.

Now I see people are saying the My Favorites tab is the culprit. Everyone reporting this as a pesky bug pointed out a different page it seems.

It'd really help if everyone would include a URL to exactly where the problem is, so I could track down every instance of "others". I'll get to the tabs now too.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 7:55 PM on October 31, 2006


"Fuck you" is the proper response to Steven on this one. It took Matt forever (and multiple requests) to make this simple change so the site looks like it was written by someone who (cough, love ya Matt) understands English. Really, come on, it was a basic grammatical error on every freaking favorites page for months and months. It's hardly "pedantic nitpicking" when someone notices something as obvious as that and brings it up here (again).
posted by mediareport at 7:55 PM on October 31, 2006


Las Vegas with a zombie clown Elvis. In the back seat in a jumbled pile was two cases of Hamms, six jars of marshmellow fluff, a stuffed bat wearing a comically small t-shirt inscribed only with the word "bugfuck", a loaf of havarti the size of a fat baby and
posted by loquacious at 7:57 PM on October 31, 2006




B-I-T-C-H-eo! B-I-T-C-H-eo! And- aw dammit, crunchland.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 8:02 PM on October 31, 2006


It was a dark and stormy night, with butterscotchies and a flanged petulance all its own. I was merely benoticing the haventness when jonmc, of his own and because, laid it before me, the most dead of the died, a trout long past its sell-by.

"Epinephrine," he said. "Enigma colloquy fandango biscuit."

"Cocks?" I said.

"Cocks," he said.
posted by scrump at 8:04 PM on October 31, 2006


[on preview: for loquacious]
... and a tragically flatulent stripper named Dora Marie Bonk. Fortunately for Elvis and I, the stripper was inflatable, so we felt less jealousy about sharing her. When Elvis rested the Havarti on her plasticine thigh though, I was pretty sure he was insinuating I had been cuckolded. That's when the fists started to fly.
posted by Arthur "Two Sheds" Jackson at 8:08 PM on October 31, 2006


Warning to others: it would be entirely inappropriate to post the Treaty of Westphalia in this thread.
posted by Meatbomb at 8:16 PM on October 31, 2006


Thanks, Matt, and bingo for bringing it up again. If Matt wants to sell this place for 70 gajillion dollars, the fit and finish has got be be tiiiight.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 8:26 PM on October 31, 2006


What is the collective noun for burritos? A bunch? A buttload? A neighburrhood?
posted by Rumple at 8:29 PM on October 31, 2006


A fart.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 8:29 PM on October 31, 2006


It'd really help if everyone would include a URL to exactly where the problem is, so I could track down every instance of "others".

This version is still unperfect.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 8:33 PM on October 31, 2006


"Aren't I wonderfully pnumatic?" Dora crooned inaudibly to me as our fists pulverized each other, the dodgy old rental bucking all over the road from shoulder to shoulder. Zombie Clown Elvis pulled out that motherfucker of an Arkansas toothpick, eleven thirsty inches of satiny hand folded steel. I reached down my pants for Mr. Happy, my snub-nosed Smith and Wesson .357 with the iridescent blue lizard-leather grips, but before I could aim and squeeze that huge knife came down, neatly pinning my sleeve to Ms. Bonk's rapidly deflating naked thigh.
posted by loquacious at 8:33 PM on October 31, 2006


I believe it's a "swaddle" of burritos. And a "fold" of tacos.
posted by Arthur "Two Sheds" Jackson at 8:33 PM on October 31, 2006


posted by Meatbomb

Damn, that was a short week.
posted by mediareport at 8:35 PM on October 31, 2006


loquacious: You either got that from a spam email or are the most brilliant writer of this century.
posted by Doohickie at 9:55 PM on October 31, 2006


I'm fairly certain it is a barrio of burritos.
posted by team lowkey at 10:06 PM on October 31, 2006


Damn, that was a short week.

I'm good at grovelling.
posted by Meatbomb at 10:14 PM on October 31, 2006


and blowjobs.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 10:38 PM on October 31, 2006 [1 favorite]


Does Mrs. Mathowie appprove?
posted by mwhybark at 10:43 PM on October 31, 2006


I'm good at grovelling.

So can we assume you're back to always posting high and that your Magna Carta Moment was a fluke of horrible sobriety?
posted by mediareport at 10:49 PM on October 31, 2006


no, dude, he thinks it's the Magna Quarta, yo.
posted by mwhybark at 11:17 PM on October 31, 2006


loquacious: You either got that from a spam email or are the most brilliant writer of this century.

Actually, I originally wrote that for a spam email.

Eh. It's a living.

Wide audience, too. Joseph Conrad, eat your filthy heart out!
posted by loquacious at 12:11 AM on November 1, 2006


Ta-dah. Fixed, at least on the page I was talking about. Thanks!
posted by bingo at 5:39 AM on November 1, 2006


Snivelsome oatings, eh pipper?
posted by languagehat at 6:30 AM on November 1, 2006


Note to self: When organizing a Mefi meetup and Bingo and Steven C. Den Beste both confirm they are coming, don't sit them next to each other.
posted by chillmost at 6:36 AM on November 1, 2006


But do ask Bingo to pull your finger. He loves that.
posted by MrMoonPie at 8:12 AM on November 1, 2006


On this page, there's a link that reads "See more of your contacts' favorite comments" that actually links to mathowie's contacts' favorites.
posted by If I Had An Anus at 8:53 AM on November 1, 2006


raar. mathowie is so sexy when he's snarky.
posted by frecklefaerie at 8:58 AM on November 1, 2006


Why all the negative response? Because this is a classic example of pedantic nitpicking about things that don't matter, and a prime example of feelings of misplaced ownership and false entitlement.

Folks, you're guests here. Cut the host some slack. He doesn't owe you anything. If something like this "drives you batty" then either develop a thicker skin, or go elsewhere.


Does the poster make it sound like he's owed something? No. Is he feeling 'entitled'? I doubt it. Is it nit-picky? Maybe. What's wrong with a goddamned suggestion, especially one shared by many people? Crikey.
posted by ORthey at 5:04 PM on November 1, 2006


I just realized that I actually do see the 'douchebags' thing, but only on other peoples' favorites pages. Wow. i'm flattered, I guess, that you would actually take the time to code that.
posted by bingo at 8:13 PM on November 6, 2006


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