Give it up. July 28, 2007 3:54 PM   Subscribe

I am so goddamn tired of being rickrolled in the comments. I think somebody spilled some 4chan on my metafilter.
posted by tehloki to Etiquette/Policy at 3:54 PM (101 comments total)

Hruh?
posted by By The Grace of God at 4:01 PM on July 28, 2007


One of the guilty parties speaks.
posted by 517 at 4:04 PM on July 28, 2007


Is this something I'd need a [More Inside] to understand?

Is this:
- A genuine concern at people placing links to Rick Astley in comments (or similar bait-and-switch)?
- An attempt to throw together two amusing threads into one comment?
posted by djgh at 4:04 PM on July 28, 2007




Why don't you cry for help? You don't need to feel ashamed. Release the pain. Cry for help!
posted by Pater Aletheias at 4:07 PM on July 28, 2007


There are worse things that could happen.
posted by dhammond at 4:08 PM on July 28, 2007


I should totally have made that link go somewhere else damnit.
posted by CunningLinguist at 4:08 PM on July 28, 2007 [3 favorites]


tinyurl, WCityMike? D'ye think we came down in the last shower?
posted by Abiezer at 4:22 PM on July 28, 2007


The sudden uptick in rickrolling/tayrolling has covered the span from annoying to bullshitty pretty quickly. It's weak sauce on a good day, and approximately twice was enough. We're unlikely to blink before nuking that shit going forward. Shit like this, in particular, is asking for trouble.
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:23 PM on July 28, 2007


That FireFox extension sucks!
posted by carsonb at 4:24 PM on July 28, 2007


i am in ur website, rickrollin ur...

Oh, never mind. Christ, what an asshole.
posted by grouse at 4:31 PM on July 28, 2007


I propose an immediate 3-day band for rickrolling. Seriously. Nuke the mofo - it's the only way to be sure.
posted by googly at 4:38 PM on July 28, 2007


cortexamyn! save us from the nasty intarwebz!
posted by quonsar at 4:38 PM on July 28, 2007


I fully agree. We should go back to goatse.
posted by mkultra at 4:54 PM on July 28, 2007


Please, not goatse. Christ, what an asshole.
posted by grouse at 5:05 PM on July 28, 2007 [8 favorites]


cortexamyn! save us from the nasty intarwebz!

Tell you what, bucko—start changing one out of every four interesting links madamjujujive posts to blort to a Rick/Tay video. Doing otherwise would be overprotecting her from the nasty intarwebz.

Let 4chan be 4chan and Stile be Stile. We don't actually need to encourage the shittiest, guileless web dorkery to set up shop on the site just to prove how much fucking buddho-anarchist cred we've got; and if avoiding that means axing moronic hyperlink jokes before they set up like kudzu, that's what we're gonna do. If that breaks your heart, there's plenty of room elsewhere on this great big nasty interwebsph34r. I hear SA has a lot more mods to bitch out, ferexample.
posted by cortex (staff) at 5:08 PM on July 28, 2007 [15 favorites]


buddo-anarchist thought for the day: q is like a slinky. not really good for anything, but it brings a smile to your face when you push him down the stairs.
posted by quonsar at 5:21 PM on July 28, 2007 [3 favorites]


hey, there's another fpp about gonzo, only this one is disguised as being about the media giving more coverage to the death predicting cat. hurry off and delete now, consistency demands it!
posted by quonsar at 5:43 PM on July 28, 2007


Once I saw Carson Daly doing it, I knew it was dead. Now whenever someone posts a rickroll all I can picture is Carson's confused audience wondering what the fuck is going on.
posted by puke & cry at 5:50 PM on July 28, 2007


You know this sort of thing?

this post mentions gonzo. why is it still here? CORTEXAMYN!?!?!?
posted by quonsar at 5:38 PM on July 28


You can really cut that shit out. Honestly and truly. One of the worst problems with this whole debate is the unwillingness of folks to show the restraint required to not shit in the blue itself. You're smart and attentive enough to know that there's a conversation going on about it in the grey; keep it here.
posted by cortex (staff) at 5:54 PM on July 28, 2007


hurry off and delete now, consistency demands it!

I'm not always taken with orthogonality's brand of angryposting, but I think this time it's giving the topic the treatment it deserves, actually.

Also what p&c said about Carson Daly.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 6:15 PM on July 28, 2007


Internet dimwits are keen to jump on pretty much any stupid bandwagon, aren't they, just to be a little less lonely. Poor little buggers.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 6:43 PM on July 28, 2007


Tonight at 10 on the Fox11LANews: A Special Report: Rickrolling, Threat or Menace?
posted by wendell at 7:05 PM on July 28, 2007 [1 favorite]


"Teens across the nation have been hacking internet websites to create cyberlinks to—and you're not going to believe this—Rick Astley. Parents are obviously concerned, but even more frightening is the suggestion by some that these so-called "rick roles" are a training ground. For terror. Carson?"
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:17 PM on July 28, 2007 [2 favorites]


I find RickRolling as a concept sort of meh - I mean come on people, Ryan Seacrest?!? yet like Rick Astley.
Very conflicted.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 7:31 PM on July 28, 2007


What's a "Rick Astley"?
posted by davy at 7:56 PM on July 28, 2007


Burhanistan

An absolute spot-on parody; I especially enjoyed how he used the vocal histrionics to parody the hard rock solo in the original.
posted by The Confessor at 8:06 PM on July 28, 2007


Although, after some further browsing, I have to say I enjoy the Will Smith version more.
posted by The Confessor at 8:12 PM on July 28, 2007


You can really cut that shit out. Honestly and truly.

Hey, it's just the internet.
posted by blacklite at 8:14 PM on July 28, 2007


This blatant crapping in the blue deserves a permaban, in my opinion.
posted by signal at 8:21 PM on July 28, 2007 [1 favorite]


I confess. I rickrolled one time. But it was funny! And in the gray. On topic.

Yep, that's me pretty much. Funny, and on topic! I'll make some geekgirl a wonderful husband someday.
posted by The Deej at 8:28 PM on July 28, 2007


linking to deleted Gonzales threads is the new Rickrolling.
posted by Challahtronix at 9:07 PM on July 28, 2007


You can never have too much Rick Astley.

(my hero)
posted by watsondog at 9:08 PM on July 28, 2007


Alright folks, as much I hate to agree with Authority Figures or with Public Opinion, I gotta admit that "rickrolling" shit is distracting, intrusive and RUDE. Please cut it out.
posted by davy at 9:30 PM on July 28, 2007


I've been riding a Rick Astlely/Cathy Dennis/Lisa Stansfisld high all night long. Never gonna give you just another dream all round the world. [I am 20 years old again with my whole life ahead of me].
posted by mimo at 9:52 PM on July 28, 2007 [2 favorites]


This 4chan, it rickrolls?
posted by davejay at 11:01 PM on July 28, 2007


Internet dimwits are keen to jump on pretty much any stupid bandwagon, aren't they, just to be a little less lonely. Poor little buggers.

I only learned about the concept of "rickrolling" about a week ago, and I only did it twice. I only did it in the grey. I promise I won't do it again for quite a while.

Someone shouldn't (SHOULDN'T I SAID) do an fpp about Rick Astley, and all the links to his videos and bio etc. instead go to weighty, important, intersting things.
posted by Meatbomb at 12:26 AM on July 29, 2007


Oh, and by the way stav, if you do the "stoopid new thing" early enough, before everyone does it and it gets tiring, it can make you feel like Liza Minelli for a little while.
posted by Meatbomb at 12:28 AM on July 29, 2007


it can make you feel like Liza Minelli for a little while.

I fail to see how this could in any way be a good thing.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 12:35 AM on July 29, 2007


I fear that by calling out against this blatant surge of rickrolling, I have only created more rickrolling. Curses.
posted by tehloki at 12:49 AM on July 29, 2007


They're nevergonna . give . it . up
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur at 1:36 AM on July 29, 2007


There's trouble on the tubes--can you handle it?
posted by oxford blue at 3:20 AM on July 29, 2007


Oh, and by the way stav, if you do the "stoopid new thing" early enough, before everyone does it and it gets tiring, it can make you feel like Liza Minelli for a little while.

My first and only Rickroll was committed on the Blue on May 29th, exactly two months ago.

What good is sitting alone in your room?
Come hear my Rickroll play.
The intarweb is a cabaret, old chum.
Come to the cabaret.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 4:15 AM on July 29, 2007


Also, I felt kinda justified because it was in a lolcats thread.

One stale meme deserves another, no?
posted by PeterMcDermott at 4:17 AM on July 29, 2007


I smiled at some of the earlier ones, as here is the first place I encountered this meme; I particularly recall that Meatbomb's were executed in such a way that in retrospect you should have known better than to click.
No doubt time will heal all and we'll be back here moaning about the next merry prank in due course.
posted by Abiezer at 5:16 AM on July 29, 2007


You know what? I have a solution.

Haimburgling is the way of the future, my friends.
posted by miss lynnster at 6:03 AM on July 29, 2007


Tehloki, don't take this as a criticism, but after noticing that you have 6292 favorites, I'm really happy that you can be down on anything.

I'm a little sick of the Rickrolling too.
posted by BrotherCaine at 6:45 AM on July 29, 2007 [1 favorite]


Rickrolling is annoying, but, honestly, has less of an impact on overall site quality than a slow shift in the userbase toward people who strike me as not really getting the Mefi.

I'll cite two, since I see you both posting in this thread: Burhanistan and The Deej.

Burhanistan, you just seem committed to drive-by assholism as a way of life. You don't seem to care for anyone or anything that gets posted here, but instead of taking the obvious measure of finding a web community more to your liking, you have an apparent compulsion to express your disdain by dumping turds in one thread after another. It's charmless and I'm amazed you haven't been called out on it before. As far as I can tell, you add precisely zero to this site.

The Deej, I'm almost sorry to call you out, because in sharp contrast to Burhanistan you seem like you want to contribute. But you've also got a real tone-deafness to the quality (I feel) has defined Mefi comments for a very long time now - you seem intent on turning one thread after another into a private little chatrooms with wendell-grade "humor." Please stop. As someone without much of a sense of comedic timing or zing my ownself, believe me, I can recognize the symptoms: you have the Anti-Funny.

I don't post very much, so it's not as if I'm personally blameless in this long, slow slide. And if pressed, of course, I would have trouble defining that elusive Mefi quality in terms that any three of us would agree upon. But I do think the site has been slipping lately. It's the You-Tubing, the rickrolling, the hegemonic feel of lame, Deej-style discourse, even the appearance of other and perhaps subtler red flags. (A clarion warning sign of Not Getting It for me, for example, is when users refer impersonally to "the mods" or "the admins.") I'm at a loss for what to do about it, other than calling out some of the things that strike me as more egregious outliers.
posted by adamgreenfield at 6:46 AM on July 29, 2007 [4 favorites]


Said adamgreenfield: "Burhanistan, you just seem committed to drive-by assholism as a way of life..."

Burhanistan? You're joking. Or maybe all your years as a "noted writer and critical futurist" have warped you, or maybe it's your years in the "United States Army's reserve component Special Operations Command as a Psychological operations specialist" that rendered you.

Tellya what Sergeant, why don't you go back to really heavy matters of universal importance, leaving Metafilter's userbase to flounder gratefully without you. You have better things to do, don't you.
posted by davy at 8:14 AM on July 29, 2007


"The Mefi" was so much better before they let us plebes in for $5 a head, eh Sergeant?
posted by davy at 8:15 AM on July 29, 2007


Misbehaving n00bs aren't enough to really affect overall site quality. You've gotta have old jerks willing to call the n00bs out, too.
posted by carsonb at 8:21 AM on July 29, 2007


I agree with your point adamgreenfield. But I don't think you should have singled out either of those posters, who to me doesn't seem to be sufficiently different from the average user here. If you have a problem with a very large chunk of the userbase, you shouldn't grab randomly for someone to pull out and lambast.
posted by Catfry at 8:25 AM on July 29, 2007


carsonb, fine, fine, I accept the critique.
posted by adamgreenfield at 8:41 AM on July 29, 2007


Also, davy, WTF? I'll tell you what: you get your own wikipedia entry, and I'll put the words we find there in your mouth.
posted by adamgreenfield at 8:47 AM on July 29, 2007 [1 favorite]


This is even better than the anti-cortex shit-fit. adamgreenfield, thank god you write hypnotically boring technology crap rather than comedy, as you seem to have no discernible sense of humor and would quickly have to find a real job. Burhanistan posts a lot, by my lazy standards anyway, and occasionally he throws in a loopy '80s video or snarky remark. Heaven forbid! He also throws in lots of intelligent analysis and a sense of fun. You contribute a grouchy tirade against a harmless and generally obvious practice that will soon be replaced by some other innocuous throw-away joke link.

Do you not see that davy is jerking your chain a little here? Do you not see that you over-reacted to his modest provocation in a hilariously self-important way? Come on now, man up a bit. You don't have to complain about every last thing you don't like.

And as for miss lynnster: I am glad to see that your rampant Haimburgling continues unabated.
posted by Mister_A at 9:18 AM on July 29, 2007


OK, look, I'm sorry I opened my yap. It's not the first time, I doubt very much it'll be the last. Relax, huh? I'll go back to the other hypnotically boring things I do now.
posted by adamgreenfield at 9:30 AM on July 29, 2007


You know, at that, that's not such a bad idea. Logging out. Cheers.
posted by adamgreenfield at 9:32 AM on July 29, 2007


"...lame, Deej-style discourse..."
-adamgreenfield

"...doesn't seem to be sufficiently different from the average user..."
-Catfry

I don't know whether I am more proud to be called out for my lameness, or defended for my averageness.
posted by The Deej at 9:33 AM on July 29, 2007 [5 favorites]


Congrats Deej, you've made it.
posted by Sk4n at 9:37 AM on July 29, 2007 [2 favorites]


I'll tell you what: you get your own wikipedia entry

hey, you know who else has his own wikipedia entry?

that's right ...
posted by pyramid termite at 9:41 AM on July 29, 2007 [1 favorite]


that's right ...

Hitler?
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 10:10 AM on July 29, 2007


"The Mefi" was so much better before they let us plebes in for $5 a head, eh Sergeant?

Actually...
posted by mkultra at 10:13 AM on July 29, 2007


I think I just invented the wickiroll.
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 10:15 AM on July 29, 2007


being insulted by a guy who lectures on the inherent ubiquity of ambient informatics with a straight face is nothing to be ashamed of, deej.
posted by quonsar at 10:22 AM on July 29, 2007


Damn you Lentrohamsanin, in context that was funny. But still.
posted by davy at 10:26 AM on July 29, 2007


Thanks, q. I can't even read that phrase with a straight face.
posted by The Deej at 10:26 AM on July 29, 2007


"inherent ubiquity of ambient informatics"

The what?
posted by davy at 10:28 AM on July 29, 2007


The what?

I think it has something to do with The Troggs.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 10:35 AM on July 29, 2007


Let's see, culling the American Heritage parts of the relevant items at dictionary.com:

inherent - Existing as an essential constituent or characteristic; intrinsic.

ubiquity - Existence or apparent existence everywhere at the same time; omnipresence.

ambient - Surrounding; encircling.

informatics - Information science.

Translation: Computer Cat is ALWAYS watching you masturbate.
posted by davy at 10:38 AM on July 29, 2007 [4 favorites]


Understand me right The Deej, I think both you and bur are notable posters here, just not NOTORIOUSLY so if you get my drift, and even though you are the kind of user that I infer Adamgreenfield is so annoyed by, you are not exceedingly so, and doesn't deserve to be singled out.
posted by Catfry at 10:56 AM on July 29, 2007


"Computer Cat"?!
posted by nanojath at 11:00 AM on July 29, 2007


Yep, Catfry, thanks. That's how I understood it. I just like to poke fun at myself. :)
posted by The Deej at 11:05 AM on July 29, 2007


I say we replace rickrolling with decptive links to Bea Arthur singing in the Star Wars Christmas Special. We'll call it BeaBlasting.
posted by shmegegge at 12:59 PM on July 29, 2007


BeaStinging.
posted by The Deej at 1:21 PM on July 29, 2007 [3 favorites]


...wendell-grade "humor."

No wonder TheDeej makes me laugh so often; we're both cut from the same Comedy Cow.

For the record, wendell-grade humor is USDA inspected and approved and goes through 16 additional quality checks. While not at all comparable in taste to Lore-grade, yeti-grade, IRFH-grade or the ever-the-more-rare StanChin-grade, it is an economical everyday alternative that provides 100% MDR of laughter for those without impaired humor systems.
posted by wendell at 1:37 PM on July 29, 2007 [1 favorite]


I say we replace rickrolling with decptive links to Bea Arthur singing in the Star Wars Christmas Special. We'll call it BeaBlasting.

How about giving people the Rundaround instead?
posted by concrete at 2:06 PM on July 29, 2007


Well Mister_A, I actually haven't Haimburgled in many weeks when I was out of town. Cortex is anti-Haimburgling, so I really ration and savor the Haim for special occasions & comedic effect now.

As for the dis against The Deej & Burhanistan? I know I can be a Derail Queen so my word probably means little. But I like what they both bring to MeFi. Over time I've gotten a far better idea of their personalities, their interests, their senses of humor, & of what they are about as people from their writing than I have gotten from adamgreenfield's contributions. But YMMV. I'm sure there are people who feel I don't add to Metafilter either. And to those people? I just say this.
posted by miss lynnster at 2:19 PM on July 29, 2007


first of all, Haimburgling is hysterical just because of what it's called. second of all, Beastinging is the much better name for the bea arthur version.
posted by shmegegge at 2:32 PM on July 29, 2007


misslynnster:
Why shucks *kicks instep* thanks ma'am. Back atcha. Yeah, pretty much, this is me. I don't put on any phoniness here, or play a character. That's why my profile is transparent. If I have a lame joke for a thread, I do try to keep it on topic. And if anyone thinks what I post is lame, you should see the stuff I start to type and never hit "post"!

Wendell:
I fear for what doesn't pass the 16-point inspections, and where that gets used! My leftovers go to Fark under the name Fuzzy Skinner.

Ironically, some lame stuff I post is pretty much self-aware lameness. Like a spoof of lameness, almost. Here's how to tell the difference: anything you think is really funny and witty is meant to be funny and witty. Anything that you groan at and think is annoying and lame is my parody of lameness. Yeah. That's it. Really. Honest.
posted by The Deej at 4:22 PM on July 29, 2007


I fear for what doesn't pass the 16-point inspections, and where that gets used!
In that case, if you ever drop by one of the MeFi-related irc's and see my name there, RUN! RUN AWAY!
posted by wendell at 4:40 PM on July 29, 2007


How about giving people the Rundaround instead?

no ... see, todd actually had talent and that's actually a good song
posted by pyramid termite at 4:46 PM on July 29, 2007


Before we try to replace Rickrolling with Beastinging, let's keep in mind the power of Rickrolling is contained within the fact that the stupid song is so. damn. catchy. that you hear it for the rest of the day/week/month! Heck, I am hearing it right now! I plugged my iPod into my receiver and cranked up my vintage Allison Six speakers to try and drown out the voice of Rick Astley with a mix of Pink Floyd, Beck, Lisa Loeb, and Ryan Adams.

It didn't work. But I'm never gonna give up!

Shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by The Deej at 5:25 PM on July 29, 2007


Dang, Deej. I defend you and you completely bypass Haimburgling in order to Beasting? WTF? Some sense of loyalty you got there, man. You just turned around and deserted the Haim. Not cool.
posted by miss lynnster at 6:41 PM on July 29, 2007


Dang, Deej. I defend you and you completely bypass Haimburgling in order to Beasting? WTF? Some sense of loyalty you got there, man. You just turned around and deserted the Haim. Not cool.
posted by miss lynnster


It's a dog eat dog world there lil missy.

You'll notice I deliberately did NOT say we should not Haimburgle, I only said we should not BeaSting, precisely because Haimburgling indeed has the potential to be, as you say, the way of the future. And I would not want to toss what little influence I have in the path of the Haimburgling juggernaut.

You would not want Haimburgling to be included in the things we should not rush to! See?

It all makes perfect sense!

You know you're my favorite MeFite!

{{{{{{missslynnster}}}}}
posted by The Deej at 7:11 PM on July 29, 2007


Get a chat room, you two.
posted by wendell at 7:29 PM on July 29, 2007


Well. So far I'm alone.
posted by The Deej at 7:40 PM on July 29, 2007


What?
posted by mds35 at 8:18 PM on July 29, 2007


no ... see, todd actually had talent and that's actually a good song
posted by pyramid termite


That's what makes it a better prank - you get the fun of misdirecting people, but you don't add insult to injury by sending them to something lame. In addition, there are a lot of good Rundgren videos on Youtube, so you don't have to use the same song like you do with a Rickroll.

Or you could go with the Logroll.
posted by concrete at 2:40 AM on July 30, 2007


I have no problem with something funny (or even not so funny) being said as a throwaway remark. The problem is that it's not enough to make a joke once -- no, every other thread becomes a meme hijack. So apropos of nothing, everyone's rickrolling or otherwise loling and it might be the funniest damn joke in the world but on 75th repetition it's water torture. When a quarter of the people in a thread are doing their own little mini-meme hijacks? It's like hanging out with your uncle who thinks he's funny, and has the flower in his lapel that shoots water and the fake vomit and whoopee cushions to prove it, but his funny stopped circa 1963. No one could stand to break his heart and tell him, poor guy. No one wants to be mean to their well-meaning unfunny uncle. So a thread with a decent chance of being a good conversation is lost in a sea of one-liners and we are treated to the comedy stylings of 17 Uncle Als instead of actual dialog.

Since no one here is my uncle Al, I'll give it to you straight: overkill is the death of comedy. For the love of all that is holy, if you are a compulsive rickroller memejockey, show a little mercy. Spritzer just isn't funny to a drowning man.
posted by melissa may at 8:39 AM on July 30, 2007 [2 favorites]


The only way Carson Daly could have done that meme successfully would be to clandestinely set up a live performance by Rick Astley and spend most of the hour hyping the crowd for a 'special mystery guest performance.'

What frightens me is that I very much enjoy listening to the song, once it's on... watching, however, not so much.
posted by The Confessor at 9:23 AM on July 30, 2007


overkill is the death of comedy

I agree entirely, melissa may. Bill Hicks did a great routine on just that subject. One of my favorites.
posted by grouse at 12:29 PM on July 30, 2007


overkill is the death of comedy

words close to my heart. I went on a whole tiny little rant the other day about how metafilter is that guy you know who still thinks doing ace ventura impressions is funny.
posted by shmegegge at 1:34 PM on July 30, 2007


"Brevity is the soul of wit."

That is one of my favorite sayings. Nothing ruins a good joke or a pithy saying more than going on and on and on about it. It should stand on its own, without explanation. If it doesn't stand on its own, it's not brief. And if it needs explanation, it's not witty. By its very definition, wit is brief. If you have to explain what you said over and over, it loses its impact. Best to just say it, then let it sit. Those who are meant to understand it, will. For those who don't get it, no amount of explanation will help them understand it. And even if they do "understand" it in an academic sense, after a long explanation, they won't appreciate it in the same manner of someone with whom the line connects immediately. There is no substitute for being succinct, and getting to your point without superfluous explanation and ongoing chatter. This merely clouds the issue, and weakens the very point you were trying to convey in the first place. You may as well not have said it at all. Please. Please. Heed my words.
posted by The Deej at 1:41 PM on July 30, 2007 [3 favorites]


The Deej, if languagehat were here, he'd tell you to sit down and shut up.
posted by wendell at 2:24 PM on July 30, 2007


If languagehat were here, I would insist that he tell me to sit down and shut up. You can always send up the 'Hat Signal, but I'm not telling you where it is.
posted by The Deej at 2:41 PM on July 30, 2007


My wife actually likes Rick Astley, especially his cover of Elvis' "In the Ghetto".
posted by BrotherCaine at 11:43 PM on July 31, 2007 [1 favorite]


Stop with the drama and make with the Wonderdrama!
posted by mds35 at 7:35 PM on August 2, 2007


I will make with the Dramarama thank you.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 7:39 PM on August 2, 2007


I'm hungry. Stepping out now for some tiny buns.
posted by mds35 at 7:46 PM on August 2, 2007


How about giving people the Rundaround instead?

Good lord! I'm just young enough that I had no idea this song was his, even though I worked in a drug store for an entire year. And what a disconnect between that song and the outfit he's wearing in the video. Craziness.

If only we still lived in a world where skinny fugly guys could be rock stars, I'd have a shot.
posted by davejay at 9:42 PM on August 13, 2007


Also: Bananarama!
posted by davejay at 9:43 PM on August 13, 2007


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