From the green to the blue! April 15, 2008 3:47 PM Subscribe
I would like some suggestions on what to post and what not to post on the blue.
I'm somewhat of a metafilter newbie, I think I became a member around V-day. I've been lurking since last summer, but mostly on the green.
I've posted 6 questions on the green, and it went okay (mostly). I would like to start posting links on the blue, but I don't want to get dissed for posting something lame. I know I can't please everyone, but I don't want to piss off toooo many people.
What kind of things do you HATE to see on the blue? Things you like?
I'm somewhat of a metafilter newbie, I think I became a member around V-day. I've been lurking since last summer, but mostly on the green.
I've posted 6 questions on the green, and it went okay (mostly). I would like to start posting links on the blue, but I don't want to get dissed for posting something lame. I know I can't please everyone, but I don't want to piss off toooo many people.
What kind of things do you HATE to see on the blue? Things you like?
V-E Day or V-J Day?
Stay away from editorializing. Stay away from news items. Try to find something you like that most people aren't familiar with. Do your research, but don't just pad your post with a google search.
posted by Eideteker at 4:00 PM on April 15, 2008
Stay away from editorializing. Stay away from news items. Try to find something you like that most people aren't familiar with. Do your research, but don't just pad your post with a google search.
posted by Eideteker at 4:00 PM on April 15, 2008
Post more comments on metafilter before you post anything.
And you'll probably get dissed and called lame. If it's a rubbish post, it'll get deleted so I wouldn't sweat it. If you think you've got a great post, then you should go for it. Take any criticism as an opportunity to learn.
If I had one recommendation, I'd say spend a bit more time commenting and reading before you post anything. If you're thinking of posting that truly great post it can either wait, or if it's the most amazing new thing then someone else can post it. Either way, we'll get to see it.
posted by seanyboy at 4:03 PM on April 15, 2008
And you'll probably get dissed and called lame. If it's a rubbish post, it'll get deleted so I wouldn't sweat it. If you think you've got a great post, then you should go for it. Take any criticism as an opportunity to learn.
If I had one recommendation, I'd say spend a bit more time commenting and reading before you post anything. If you're thinking of posting that truly great post it can either wait, or if it's the most amazing new thing then someone else can post it. Either way, we'll get to see it.
posted by seanyboy at 4:03 PM on April 15, 2008
It might help to install one of the Greasemonkey scripts that shows deleted posts. Once you see a bunch of them, it's pretty easy to gauge what's kosher.
posted by Sys Rq at 4:04 PM on April 15, 2008
posted by Sys Rq at 4:04 PM on April 15, 2008
Don't try to fill out a lame post with wikipedia links.
Someone somewhere will likely think your post sucks. Deal.
posted by waraw at 4:05 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Someone somewhere will likely think your post sucks. Deal.
posted by waraw at 4:05 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
one of the Greasemonkey scripts that shows deleted posts.
Or just go here.
posted by dersins at 4:06 PM on April 15, 2008
Or just go here.
posted by dersins at 4:06 PM on April 15, 2008
Generally, single link YouTube posts are dumb. Fleshing out your single-link post with a Wikipedia citation is also dumb. Criticizing George Bush is dumb. Reporting on the latest, up-to-the-minute developments in the Clinton-Obama race is dumb. Mentioning anything to do with Australia or Canada is dumb. Identifying how fucking weird the Japanese are, yet again, is actually really great. Stealing from Boing Boing is also great.
One good strategy is to find a story in the news about the results of some new research project, find the original research article, link to it, and then dig up some more background.
posted by KokuRyu at 4:07 PM on April 15, 2008
One good strategy is to find a story in the news about the results of some new research project, find the original research article, link to it, and then dig up some more background.
posted by KokuRyu at 4:07 PM on April 15, 2008
Generally, single link YouTube posts are dumb.
Not always, though. Dumb single-link youtube posts to boring videos are dumb and boring. But a single link youtube post can still be a great post.
The crunchland method (scroll down) for making a good post may be getting a little dated in terms of specific techniques, but it should still be required reading for any neophyte poster.
posted by dersins at 4:10 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Not always, though. Dumb single-link youtube posts to boring videos are dumb and boring. But a single link youtube post can still be a great post.
The crunchland method (scroll down) for making a good post may be getting a little dated in terms of specific techniques, but it should still be required reading for any neophyte poster.
posted by dersins at 4:10 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Almost anything about Haruki Murakami. This place LOVES Haruki Murakami. Also, I love Haruki Murakami.
posted by spec80 at 4:14 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by spec80 at 4:14 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
I never understand why people get all het up about posting - just have a go! The worst thing that can happen is a few strangers taking the piss, and your post getting deleted. Which ranks somewhere between accidentally leaving a cup of coffee to go cold and slightly stubbing your toe in the personal trauma stakes...
Oh, and a single link to an interesting site is the best kind of post, I reckon.
What's V-day?
posted by jack_mo at 4:14 PM on April 15, 2008
Oh, and a single link to an interesting site is the best kind of post, I reckon.
What's V-day?
posted by jack_mo at 4:14 PM on April 15, 2008
Read the guidelines.
...and the FAQ, and maybe browse the wiki. Also, Dave Faris thinks it's outdated, but The Crunchland Method (scroll down) is still a great resource on how to find links and format your post. Use the site's resources (popular favorites, the archives, MetaTalk's archives, etc.) to round out your understanding of what is and what is not acceptable. We've been discussing what belongs on the front page of MeFi for quite some time now, and there are explicit and unstated expectations. Of course, your understanding of what is acceptable at MeFi will not be the same as everyone else's. You will catch shit for posting to the blue (or at least it's a good enough possibility that you should understand and accept the risks). You may very well be toasted for posting to the blue. You just never know.
MetaFilter is the best of the web, the Internet filtered by savvy, hip, knowledgeable people. If you know about something neat, and it has a web presence, put what you know out there and educate the rest of us. If the something neat is a web presence, all the better. People like free, they like to be entertained, and they like learning about neat things they never woulda heard of otherwise.
Personally, I could do without newsfilter, single-link op-eds (SLOEs), single-link obituaries, and on. But that's just me. Others, I'm sure, eat that shit up.
posted by carsonb at 4:15 PM on April 15, 2008
...and the FAQ, and maybe browse the wiki. Also, Dave Faris thinks it's outdated, but The Crunchland Method (scroll down) is still a great resource on how to find links and format your post. Use the site's resources (popular favorites, the archives, MetaTalk's archives, etc.) to round out your understanding of what is and what is not acceptable. We've been discussing what belongs on the front page of MeFi for quite some time now, and there are explicit and unstated expectations. Of course, your understanding of what is acceptable at MeFi will not be the same as everyone else's. You will catch shit for posting to the blue (or at least it's a good enough possibility that you should understand and accept the risks). You may very well be toasted for posting to the blue. You just never know.
MetaFilter is the best of the web, the Internet filtered by savvy, hip, knowledgeable people. If you know about something neat, and it has a web presence, put what you know out there and educate the rest of us. If the something neat is a web presence, all the better. People like free, they like to be entertained, and they like learning about neat things they never woulda heard of otherwise.
Personally, I could do without newsfilter, single-link op-eds (SLOEs), single-link obituaries, and on. But that's just me. Others, I'm sure, eat that shit up.
posted by carsonb at 4:15 PM on April 15, 2008
Mentioning anything to do with Australia or Canada is dumb.
Lies!
posted by Tehanu at 4:18 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Lies!
posted by Tehanu at 4:18 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Oh yeah, try to avoid religion, obesity (and other eating disorders), politics, circumcision of any sort, and hate speech. They go down so well, but the aftertaste is revolting.
posted by carsonb at 4:18 PM on April 15, 2008
posted by carsonb at 4:18 PM on April 15, 2008
Post anything you want. It'll get deleted if it sucks. That's my secret.
posted by chunking express at 4:22 PM on April 15, 2008
posted by chunking express at 4:22 PM on April 15, 2008
I would like to start posting links on the blue, but I don't want to get dissed for posting something lame.
There are a lot of good resources linked here, and some good first-hand advice, about how to do a good job on a post you decide to make, but I want to sort of emphasize something: wanting generically to post something to the front page isn't a particularly good reason to make a post.
Enthusiasm, wanting to jump in the pool: these things are understandable, and you're totally fine for feeling that way. But if nothing else, I think this basic idea is true: a post should start with something postworthy that has you excited about sharing it with Metafilter. It shouldn't start with a generalized need to come up with something as an excuse to make your first post.
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:23 PM on April 15, 2008 [4 favorites]
There are a lot of good resources linked here, and some good first-hand advice, about how to do a good job on a post you decide to make, but I want to sort of emphasize something: wanting generically to post something to the front page isn't a particularly good reason to make a post.
Enthusiasm, wanting to jump in the pool: these things are understandable, and you're totally fine for feeling that way. But if nothing else, I think this basic idea is true: a post should start with something postworthy that has you excited about sharing it with Metafilter. It shouldn't start with a generalized need to come up with something as an excuse to make your first post.
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:23 PM on April 15, 2008 [4 favorites]
In my opinion, a good post presents an interesting article, website, or video that will prompt entertaining discussion among the MeFites and/or generate additional entertaining content.
posted by flatluigi at 4:24 PM on April 15, 2008
posted by flatluigi at 4:24 PM on April 15, 2008
Also: this made me look over my (very occasional) posts, and it turns out they're a load of old cock. Cheers for that.
posted by jack_mo at 4:24 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by jack_mo at 4:24 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Don't make every word, or worse, every letter, in the post a separate link.
posted by gyusan at 4:30 PM on April 15, 2008 [3 favorites]
posted by gyusan at 4:30 PM on April 15, 2008 [3 favorites]
Not that I have made many posts, but I think the best written ones, no matter what the content, are written like a good news lead. They give the who, what, why, when, where and how simply and to the point. They don't leave you guessing where the links click to (I like the motto "Don't make me think!")
That said, once you master the basics there are great posts that use interesting formatting or mystery as a hook.
posted by starman at 4:41 PM on April 15, 2008
That said, once you master the basics there are great posts that use interesting formatting or mystery as a hook.
posted by starman at 4:41 PM on April 15, 2008
gyusan: Don't make every word, or worse, every letter, in the post a separate link.
That's a stylistic choice. Some people love them, some people hate them. As an example, the two posts I made in that style are my most and second-most favorited posts respectively, so I'm of the opinion more people like them than dislike them.
posted by flatluigi at 4:43 PM on April 15, 2008
That's a stylistic choice. Some people love them, some people hate them. As an example, the two posts I made in that style are my most and second-most favorited posts respectively, so I'm of the opinion more people like them than dislike them.
posted by flatluigi at 4:43 PM on April 15, 2008
My good posts have usually come from a "random-walk" approach--I'll google something, and just follow links from there. Sooner or later, you find a site that you just know would make a good post--it's hard to quantify, but I might describe it as "whatever it does, it does well". If it's somebody's site on a topic, it covers that topic very nicely, with both breadth and depth. If it's a game, it's a new, interesting concept, or an well-executed interpretation of an older one. If it's a video, it's well-made and does a good job of entertaining or informing, depending on its purpose. If it's an article or a blog post, it's well-written and discusses in depth a topic not many are familiar with.
My not-so-good posts seem to come out of the idea that "I think this topic would make a good post", and try to fill it out. Sometimes you should just admit after searching around for a while that there's nothing that jumps out at you. That's OK, and probably makes for better posts in the long run.
posted by Upton O'Good at 4:44 PM on April 15, 2008
My not-so-good posts seem to come out of the idea that "I think this topic would make a good post", and try to fill it out. Sometimes you should just admit after searching around for a while that there's nothing that jumps out at you. That's OK, and probably makes for better posts in the long run.
posted by Upton O'Good at 4:44 PM on April 15, 2008
Oh yeah, try to avoid religion, obesity (and other eating disorders), politics, circumcision of any sort, and hate speech.
Also, people here love cats.
posted by smackfu at 4:46 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Also, people here love cats.
posted by smackfu at 4:46 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Having the text of your post in some way indicate what it's links are pointing at is always a good idea.
Lists of things are alwyas good discussion bait, though IMHO unless it's a really good and distinctive list it's a bit of a cheap trick.
posted by Artw at 4:46 PM on April 15, 2008
Lists of things are alwyas good discussion bait, though IMHO unless it's a really good and distinctive list it's a bit of a cheap trick.
posted by Artw at 4:46 PM on April 15, 2008
1. Research my post history, especially the deleted ones.
2. Do not repeat.
posted by Doohickie at 4:58 PM on April 15, 2008
2. Do not repeat.
posted by Doohickie at 4:58 PM on April 15, 2008
Don't make every word, or worse, every letter, in the post a separate link.
Hey! That's my first post you're talking about!
posted by dersins at 5:03 PM on April 15, 2008
Hey! That's my first post you're talking about!
posted by dersins at 5:03 PM on April 15, 2008
What to post: the best of the web.
What to post: If you have to ask, don't post.
posted by 3.2.3 at 5:04 PM on April 15, 2008
What to post: If you have to ask, don't post.
posted by 3.2.3 at 5:04 PM on April 15, 2008
How do I know which ones were deleted?
Deleted Thread blog.
posted by dersins at 5:05 PM on April 15, 2008
Deleted Thread blog.
posted by dersins at 5:05 PM on April 15, 2008
"Mentioning anything to do with Australia or Canada is dumb."
posted by KokuRyu at 10:07 AM on April 16
How do you figure, sports-fan?
sixcolors, my simple advice to posting on the blue is to post anything you think that is interesting, but temper that instinct if your link is just a single link to a breaking news item. Newsfilter isn't neccessarily bad, as long as you can flesh it out with some other interesting links. Similarly, avoid controversial topics unless you have some great links to flesh out the post with, unless your aim is to start a train-wreck thread, which should not be your aim if you want to make a great post.
Use the more inside if your FPP is starting to get too long.
Accept that not everyone is going to love your post, and that the nature of this place is that at least some people are going to tell you your post sucks, no matter how good it may actually be.
Understand that lots of favorites does not neccessarily equal a better post. That said, look at the popular favorites page to get an idea about what people do like around these parts.
Understand that lots of comments does not neccessarily equal a better post.
That's all I have for now but given some time I could probably come up with more. I should be working y'know...
posted by Effigy2000 at 5:05 PM on April 15, 2008
posted by KokuRyu at 10:07 AM on April 16
How do you figure, sports-fan?
sixcolors, my simple advice to posting on the blue is to post anything you think that is interesting, but temper that instinct if your link is just a single link to a breaking news item. Newsfilter isn't neccessarily bad, as long as you can flesh it out with some other interesting links. Similarly, avoid controversial topics unless you have some great links to flesh out the post with, unless your aim is to start a train-wreck thread, which should not be your aim if you want to make a great post.
Use the more inside if your FPP is starting to get too long.
Accept that not everyone is going to love your post, and that the nature of this place is that at least some people are going to tell you your post sucks, no matter how good it may actually be.
Understand that lots of favorites does not neccessarily equal a better post. That said, look at the popular favorites page to get an idea about what people do like around these parts.
Understand that lots of comments does not neccessarily equal a better post.
That's all I have for now but given some time I could probably come up with more. I should be working y'know...
posted by Effigy2000 at 5:05 PM on April 15, 2008
If it's NSFW, mark it as such. When you're making that judgment, define 'NSFW' prudishly--some people work in churches and battered womens shelters and whatnot.
posted by box at 5:06 PM on April 15, 2008
posted by box at 5:06 PM on April 15, 2008
ROFL! Dave Faris thinks crunchland's advice is outdated? Who better than Dave Faris to update it?
posted by Cranberry at 5:06 PM on April 15, 2008
posted by Cranberry at 5:06 PM on April 15, 2008
Not necessarily good examples. Some people work in places whose definition of NSFW is more prudish than you can possibly imagine.
posted by box at 5:07 PM on April 15, 2008
posted by box at 5:07 PM on April 15, 2008
OMG, I love this!!!
Lists of sockpuppets and deleted threads? And the reasons why they were deleted.
This is like getting your name on the board in 3rd grade, lol!
posted by sixcolors at 5:08 PM on April 15, 2008
Lists of sockpuppets and deleted threads? And the reasons why they were deleted.
This is like getting your name on the board in 3rd grade, lol!
posted by sixcolors at 5:08 PM on April 15, 2008
Don't use Tinyurl, Icanhaz or similar link-obscurers. People like to know what they're clicking on.
On that same line, some folks think it's nice to make a little note when you're linking, or direct-linking, to non-html files (Flash, .mp3s, etc.).
And use jokey tags very sparingly, by which I mean not at all.
posted by box at 5:12 PM on April 15, 2008
On that same line, some folks think it's nice to make a little note when you're linking, or direct-linking, to non-html files (Flash, .mp3s, etc.).
And use jokey tags very sparingly, by which I mean not at all.
posted by box at 5:12 PM on April 15, 2008
You don't want to use 'OMG' or 'lol' in your post. Or your comments for that matter
posted by 0xFCAF at 5:20 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by 0xFCAF at 5:20 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Unless it's in parenthesis. Then you become a legend*. (lol)
* But not the good kind of legend. Yeah, just don't do that.
posted by Effigy2000 at 5:25 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
* But not the good kind of legend. Yeah, just don't do that.
posted by Effigy2000 at 5:25 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Posts about the pros and cons of circumcision and reasoned discussions of the Arab/Israeli conflict always go down well. Anything that highlights the weird and wonderful beliefs of fundamentalist Christians tends to be popular. Also:
Also, people here love cats.
But they hate what they do to their furniture. Concrete information on how to reduce scratches, say through removing their claws, is bound to go down big.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 5:27 PM on April 15, 2008
Also, people here love cats.
But they hate what they do to their furniture. Concrete information on how to reduce scratches, say through removing their claws, is bound to go down big.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 5:27 PM on April 15, 2008
Lots of good advice here, but Eideteker basically nailed it in the second comment. Like cortex, I'd like to emphasize that looking for a post to make because you want to make a post is a terrible idea. I go for months without posting, without even thinking about posting, and then one day I see something online that cries out "This would be a good MeFi post!" and then I go to the New Post page and do the requisite search and it turns out jonson posted it in 2006.
But sometimes I get lucky and nobody else has posted it and I give it a shot. Sometimes it gets four comments, sometimes almost 400 (and if you bastards had argued just a little more about that damn logic puzzle, I wouldn't have had to add that weaselly "almost"). What's important isn't the number of comments, it's whether those who comment seem to find it interesting. The more you wait and get a feel for what goes over well, the better luck you'll have in that department.
Concise moral: the post finds you, you don't seek out the post.
posted by languagehat at 5:28 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
But sometimes I get lucky and nobody else has posted it and I give it a shot. Sometimes it gets four comments, sometimes almost 400 (and if you bastards had argued just a little more about that damn logic puzzle, I wouldn't have had to add that weaselly "almost"). What's important isn't the number of comments, it's whether those who comment seem to find it interesting. The more you wait and get a feel for what goes over well, the better luck you'll have in that department.
Concise moral: the post finds you, you don't seek out the post.
posted by languagehat at 5:28 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
I would like to see more posts about cheese.
posted by BitterOldPunk at 5:30 PM on April 15, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by BitterOldPunk at 5:30 PM on April 15, 2008 [2 favorites]
I was a member for 3 years before posting.
I would merely suggest lurking. You get a feel for what is accepted and what is not, what sort of quality is expected, etc. For me, it was initially very intimidating but ended up being well worth the wait.
Good luck!
posted by nonmerci at 5:37 PM on April 15, 2008
I would merely suggest lurking. You get a feel for what is accepted and what is not, what sort of quality is expected, etc. For me, it was initially very intimidating but ended up being well worth the wait.
Good luck!
posted by nonmerci at 5:37 PM on April 15, 2008
What's V-day?
it's more commonly known as Beer-n-Blowjob day.
posted by UbuRoivas at 5:48 PM on April 15, 2008
it's more commonly known as Beer-n-Blowjob day.
posted by UbuRoivas at 5:48 PM on April 15, 2008
What seems to work for me is cryptic anti-semitism and links to thrift stores.
Oh, also, anybody who says they don't like my post, I call 'em a motherfucker right off the bat. Like, "Didja need all those wikipedia links?"
"Fuck you, motherfucker, yes!"
That usually goes well.
Also, if the post is about a woman, make sure to let us know whether you consider her attractive enough to have sex with, because otherwise, we won't know whether or not to take her seriously.
posted by klangklangston at 5:49 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Oh, also, anybody who says they don't like my post, I call 'em a motherfucker right off the bat. Like, "Didja need all those wikipedia links?"
"Fuck you, motherfucker, yes!"
That usually goes well.
Also, if the post is about a woman, make sure to let us know whether you consider her attractive enough to have sex with, because otherwise, we won't know whether or not to take her seriously.
posted by klangklangston at 5:49 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
I don't think getting your post called out or dissed is that big a deal. As long as you aren't a lame self-linker or troll, y'know? You liked the stuff enough to share it, and if some strangers on the 'net don't agree with your taste, no skin off your back. If they do like it, then hey, you helped make some people's days a little brighter, yay for you.
Though I do agree that you definitely shouldn't "look for" something to post. Let the post come to you in your browsing. Unless there's some obscure topic that's fascinated you for decades and you decided to do some independent research on it and found a few cool articles, then it would be neat to link it all together in a well-written context paragraph and post it up. But you get the idea.
posted by Phire at 5:50 PM on April 15, 2008
Though I do agree that you definitely shouldn't "look for" something to post. Let the post come to you in your browsing. Unless there's some obscure topic that's fascinated you for decades and you decided to do some independent research on it and found a few cool articles, then it would be neat to link it all together in a well-written context paragraph and post it up. But you get the idea.
posted by Phire at 5:50 PM on April 15, 2008
AND I HAVE ALMOST 100 POST THAT HAVENT BEEN DELETES! I KNOW FROM WHENCE I SPEAKS!
posted by klangklangston at 5:52 PM on April 15, 2008
posted by klangklangston at 5:52 PM on April 15, 2008
Mentioning anything to do with Australia or Canada is dumb.
Lies!
posted by UbuRoivas at 5:53 PM on April 15, 2008
Lies!
posted by UbuRoivas at 5:53 PM on April 15, 2008
then I go to the New Post page and do the requisite search and it turns out jonson posted it in 2006.
(lol) - because this is true.
posted by tellurian at 5:53 PM on April 15, 2008
(lol) - because this is true.
posted by tellurian at 5:53 PM on April 15, 2008
I would like to see more posts about cheese.
I am working on one entitled Sweet Dreams are Made of Cheese. Please subscribe to my newsletter to find out more.
posted by meech at 5:55 PM on April 15, 2008
I am working on one entitled Sweet Dreams are Made of Cheese. Please subscribe to my newsletter to find out more.
posted by meech at 5:55 PM on April 15, 2008
Who better than Dave Faris to update it?
Someone who know's Crunchland's password. It got randomized.
posted by Dave Faris at 6:05 PM on April 15, 2008
Someone who know's Crunchland's password. It got randomized.
posted by Dave Faris at 6:05 PM on April 15, 2008
I do have almost 100 posts that haven't been deleted. I have no idea how many of mine have been deleted. Ten or so, likely. Maybe cortex's fancy will be tickled and he can tell me.
posted by klangklangston at 6:08 PM on April 15, 2008
posted by klangklangston at 6:08 PM on April 15, 2008
As for the advice in this thread about what not to post... stuff like "don't make each letter a link." Ignore that. It's possible to make a good post using that method, though you might tend to lose the attention of the small-minded.
Aside from self-linking, or doing something that otherwise breaks the guidelines, there aren't many ways to make a wrong post. And if you happen to find one, the moderators will helpfully delete your post for you, and you'll get the chance to try again tomorrow.
posted by Dave Faris at 6:09 PM on April 15, 2008
Aside from self-linking, or doing something that otherwise breaks the guidelines, there aren't many ways to make a wrong post. And if you happen to find one, the moderators will helpfully delete your post for you, and you'll get the chance to try again tomorrow.
posted by Dave Faris at 6:09 PM on April 15, 2008
klangklangston - I have no idea how many of mine have been deleted. Ten or so, likely.
2, unless you had something deleted between March 2005 and May 2006.
posted by tellurian at 6:24 PM on April 15, 2008
2, unless you had something deleted between March 2005 and May 2006.
posted by tellurian at 6:24 PM on April 15, 2008
because this is true.
It's so true that it's actually happened to jonson himself. It's the small pleasure that keep this place interesting.
Maybe cortex's fancy will be tickled and he can tell me.
You have had three posts deleted; the first was a double, the second was also a double, and the third was a double that game me an excuse to quote The Pretenders and so I'm pretty okay with that.
If you want to talk comment deletion history, we'll need to block out some time and reserve a meeting space.
posted by cortex (staff) at 6:26 PM on April 15, 2008
It's so true that it's actually happened to jonson himself. It's the small pleasure that keep this place interesting.
Maybe cortex's fancy will be tickled and he can tell me.
You have had three posts deleted; the first was a double, the second was also a double, and the third was a double that game me an excuse to quote The Pretenders and so I'm pretty okay with that.
If you want to talk comment deletion history, we'll need to block out some time and reserve a meeting space.
posted by cortex (staff) at 6:26 PM on April 15, 2008
People here like cameras. They're even better if we have them. Vibrating cameras, with pictures of house-pets stuck in scanners.
But let me be the first to preemptively say that "Your post sucks", because honestly, we're all just looking for used cars.
posted by blue_beetle at 6:31 PM on April 15, 2008
But let me be the first to preemptively say that "Your post sucks", because honestly, we're all just looking for used cars.
posted by blue_beetle at 6:31 PM on April 15, 2008
It's times like these I wish I had to time to fill out those missing years. If for completions sake if nothing else.
posted by puke & cry at 6:47 PM on April 15, 2008
posted by puke & cry at 6:47 PM on April 15, 2008
'unless you had something deleted between March 2005 and May 2006'
'the first was a double'
Aha!
It's so true that it's actually happened to jonson himself.
Potty.
posted by tellurian at 6:49 PM on April 15, 2008
'the first was a double'
Aha!
It's so true that it's actually happened to jonson himself.
Potty.
posted by tellurian at 6:49 PM on April 15, 2008
Wow, I thought I'd posted more doubles than that. I guess maybe that search thing works pretty well. Better than my analog memory, anyhow.
(As for comments, I don't think I've actually had all that many deleted. My jerkdom generally remains, as far as I remember. I'd guess around 20 or so for the whole of my time here, though obviously, I could be wrong.)
posted by klangklangston at 6:50 PM on April 15, 2008
(As for comments, I don't think I've actually had all that many deleted. My jerkdom generally remains, as far as I remember. I'd guess around 20 or so for the whole of my time here, though obviously, I could be wrong.)
posted by klangklangston at 6:50 PM on April 15, 2008
What's the big hurry? Some of us were born to FPP, some have FPPing thrust upon us, and the rest of us should just leave well enough alone. Hadjiboy and madamjujujive, for example, are in the first group. I'm in the last. Not everyone needs to post in order for MeFi to be a vibrant community, and in fact, I wish more people resisted the temptation. More /= better.
posted by FelliniBlank at 6:59 PM on April 15, 2008
posted by FelliniBlank at 6:59 PM on April 15, 2008
klang, it's possible that you had several more posts deleted that were so odious, so inhumanly unviable that we removed every trace of them from the database. So if you want to think of it that way, I won't stop you.
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:03 PM on April 15, 2008
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:03 PM on April 15, 2008
Oh yeah, try to avoid religion
That advice is a little too sweeping. The members of this site have been hungry for a post about Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and Guru Dev for months now.
If you were the one to provide it, that would give you massive amounts of cred among the veterans here.
posted by Meatbomb at 7:09 PM on April 15, 2008
That advice is a little too sweeping. The members of this site have been hungry for a post about Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and Guru Dev for months now.
If you were the one to provide it, that would give you massive amounts of cred among the veterans here.
posted by Meatbomb at 7:09 PM on April 15, 2008
Oh, now I remember why I quit indexing the old deleted threads. The guy that was hosting them (timeistight) deleted them and the guy that compiled it (mach5) never put it up anywhere else. That makes it a long harder to go through all them.
posted by puke & cry at 7:17 PM on April 15, 2008
posted by puke & cry at 7:17 PM on April 15, 2008
Found something cool on the web and want to share it with everyone else? Great! Just fill the blanks and it'll go live.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 7:48 PM on April 15, 2008
posted by mr_crash_davis at 7:48 PM on April 15, 2008
Burhanistan, that just may be the best thing I have ever seen on this internet thing here, I want to subscribe to your newsletter, etc.
I LOLed. No, really!
posted by yhbc at 8:07 PM on April 15, 2008
I LOLed. No, really!
posted by yhbc at 8:07 PM on April 15, 2008
No mystery links! Don't get cute with a post that sounds like a riddle and you have click on the links to solve it. Describe your links so people know where they are going.
Often the best posts seem to come from a user sharing a her particular interests and expertise. It is so interesting to find someone laying out a series of related links to something I had never heard of before.
posted by LarryC at 8:10 PM on April 15, 2008
Often the best posts seem to come from a user sharing a her particular interests and expertise. It is so interesting to find someone laying out a series of related links to something I had never heard of before.
posted by LarryC at 8:10 PM on April 15, 2008
Oh, and don't try to ride herd over the discussion. Once you put your post on Metafilter it does not belong to you anymore. It can be annoying when the conversation doesn't go the way you had in mind but that is part of what makes Metafilter interesting. You can participate in the discussion but not try to direct it.
posted by LarryC at 8:12 PM on April 15, 2008
posted by LarryC at 8:12 PM on April 15, 2008
You know what? Fuck it; I'm gonna post it. It's not a double, and it's great.
Credit where credit is due, of course.
posted by yhbc at 8:16 PM on April 15, 2008
Credit where credit is due, of course.
posted by yhbc at 8:16 PM on April 15, 2008
Personally, I find that people particularly enjoy posts that discuss the mixing of alcoholic beverages into delicious frosted baked goods. And Pee Wee Herman.
posted by miss lynnster at 8:47 PM on April 15, 2008
posted by miss lynnster at 8:47 PM on April 15, 2008
I LOVE Pee Wee Herman. Do you have any posts about him?
Oh. Never mind.
posted by yhbc at 8:51 PM on April 15, 2008
Oh. Never mind.
posted by yhbc at 8:51 PM on April 15, 2008
Me, I'd quite like to see more posts about Australia and Canada. But then, I am kind of dumb.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 9:15 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 9:15 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
"You have had three posts deleted; the first was a double, the second was also a double, and the third was a double that game me an excuse to quote The Pretenders and so I'm pretty okay with that.
If you want to talk comment deletion history, we'll need to block out some time and reserve a meeting space."
posted by cortex at 12:26 PM on April 16
Oooo cortex, can you do mine now pleeeeease! How many posts have I had deleted? I'm interested in number of comments also, if you've got time (I know you're meant to be writing a chapter of a novel this month, heh).
"Me, I'd quite like to see more posts about Australia and Canada. But then, I am kind of dumb."
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 3:15 PM on April 16
Then you'll want thedumbest erm, I mean best. Posts tagged with Australia by Effigy2000.
posted by Effigy2000 at 9:44 PM on April 15, 2008
If you want to talk comment deletion history, we'll need to block out some time and reserve a meeting space."
posted by cortex at 12:26 PM on April 16
Oooo cortex, can you do mine now pleeeeease! How many posts have I had deleted? I'm interested in number of comments also, if you've got time (I know you're meant to be writing a chapter of a novel this month, heh).
"Me, I'd quite like to see more posts about Australia and Canada. But then, I am kind of dumb."
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 3:15 PM on April 16
Then you'll want the
posted by Effigy2000 at 9:44 PM on April 15, 2008
Effigy2000: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14. Hopefully I didn't fuck that up.
posted by puke & cry at 10:34 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by puke & cry at 10:34 PM on April 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
languagehat: Concise moral: the post finds you, you don't seek out the post."
That is true, but the skill is in recognizing the post.
If I have any advice it's that you shouldn't be afraid to post. Sure, if you post a lot there'll be posts that no one seems to like, even posts you regret (I have one of those), hell, people might write mean things about it, but you'll develop the skills and instincts soon enough.
I have several personal guidelines for making posts, but they're just guidelines and don't necessarily reflect what draws me into other people's FPPs.
Make it clear what the FPP is a link to (this is most important).
Try to link to just one site (except when making curating posts).
Put as little as possible inside (it's hard to tell what will hook someone).
If it's a link to writing or art mention the writer or artist by name (it's only polite).
Explain what the link is in general and provide examples (seeing examples helps to understand the bigger picture).
Excerpt from essays when linking to them (the writing style of the essay can be just as important as the content).
As to finding stuff, well... the trick is to recognize a good link. The most interesting stuff I've often found while googling for something related and stumbling upon it. My most favorited post, a link to a database of free speculative fiction, I found while googling for info on writer Paul Di Filippo. If you keep your eyes open, you'll find interesting stuff. There's way more on the internet than a thousand MetaFilters churning out a thousand posts a day could ever uncover.
posted by Kattullus at 10:42 PM on April 15, 2008
That is true, but the skill is in recognizing the post.
If I have any advice it's that you shouldn't be afraid to post. Sure, if you post a lot there'll be posts that no one seems to like, even posts you regret (I have one of those), hell, people might write mean things about it, but you'll develop the skills and instincts soon enough.
I have several personal guidelines for making posts, but they're just guidelines and don't necessarily reflect what draws me into other people's FPPs.
Make it clear what the FPP is a link to (this is most important).
Try to link to just one site (except when making curating posts).
Put as little as possible inside (it's hard to tell what will hook someone).
If it's a link to writing or art mention the writer or artist by name (it's only polite).
Explain what the link is in general and provide examples (seeing examples helps to understand the bigger picture).
Excerpt from essays when linking to them (the writing style of the essay can be just as important as the content).
As to finding stuff, well... the trick is to recognize a good link. The most interesting stuff I've often found while googling for something related and stumbling upon it. My most favorited post, a link to a database of free speculative fiction, I found while googling for info on writer Paul Di Filippo. If you keep your eyes open, you'll find interesting stuff. There's way more on the internet than a thousand MetaFilters churning out a thousand posts a day could ever uncover.
posted by Kattullus at 10:42 PM on April 15, 2008
"Hopefully I didn't fuck that up."
posted by puke & cry
You did a little (11 & 13 are the same thread) but still, thanks for that puke & cry. Wow. Looking back at some of those, I can't help but concur that they were all worthy deletions. Still, 13 out of 124 isn't too bad a failure rate.
posted by Effigy2000 at 10:53 PM on April 15, 2008
posted by puke & cry
You did a little (11 & 13 are the same thread) but still, thanks for that puke & cry. Wow. Looking back at some of those, I can't help but concur that they were all worthy deletions. Still, 13 out of 124 isn't too bad a failure rate.
posted by Effigy2000 at 10:53 PM on April 15, 2008
Damn.
posted by puke & cry at 11:03 PM on April 15, 2008
posted by puke & cry at 11:03 PM on April 15, 2008
What kind of things do you HATE to see on the blue?
This is about the worst FPP I've seen on MeFi that didn't get deleted in ... I don't know how long. I'm stunned it lasted more than 5 minutes. Pure dreck that lowers the bar, imo. More shit like this gets posted and the "Here's what I've been thinking about... what do you think about it?" posts will flood the place. Gag.
posted by dobbs at 11:16 PM on April 15, 2008
This is about the worst FPP I've seen on MeFi that didn't get deleted in ... I don't know how long. I'm stunned it lasted more than 5 minutes. Pure dreck that lowers the bar, imo. More shit like this gets posted and the "Here's what I've been thinking about... what do you think about it?" posts will flood the place. Gag.
posted by dobbs at 11:16 PM on April 15, 2008
Be brave. Post what YOU find interesting and take your licks. The best way to learn is from direct criticism and direct praise. Sometimes you'll find that other Mefites think your post wonderful, and other times they'll think it's "meh," but you won't know until you try.
posted by amyms at 11:26 PM on April 15, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by amyms at 11:26 PM on April 15, 2008 [2 favorites]
Don't talk about advertising. Unless it's cool advertising.
posted by dabitch at 11:35 PM on April 15, 2008
posted by dabitch at 11:35 PM on April 15, 2008
Be brave. Post what YOU find interesting and take your licks. The best way to learn is from direct criticism and direct praise. Sometimes you'll find that other Mefites think your post wonderful, and other times they'll think it's "meh," but you won't know until you try.
Yep. To ad, if your post gets deleted, go back to your corner and come out for the next round. If the "conversation" takes a nasty turn, don't fret. Remember; we have a few 12 year old dickbeards who like to hang out and unleash their bowels on everything. Towel off and jump back in. Its fun.
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 6:54 AM on April 16, 2008
Yep. To ad, if your post gets deleted, go back to your corner and come out for the next round. If the "conversation" takes a nasty turn, don't fret. Remember; we have a few 12 year old dickbeards who like to hang out and unleash their bowels on everything. Towel off and jump back in. Its fun.
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 6:54 AM on April 16, 2008
Heh. Dickbeard.
Elaborating on something that effigy2000 and others brought up, avoid the "lol" and "omg" unless you are being unambiguously ironic. Even then, use it sparingly.
Avoid posts based on a single Flickr photo set, unless the photos are really awesome. Be prepared for someone to point out sub-optimal awesomeness in the photos in any case.
Posts about old TV shows are great.
Finally, you should know that there is an ongoing war between descriptivists and prescriptivists here at MetaFilter. Pick a side, fly your flag, and give the enemy no quarter!
posted by Mister_A at 8:01 AM on April 16, 2008
Elaborating on something that effigy2000 and others brought up, avoid the "lol" and "omg" unless you are being unambiguously ironic. Even then, use it sparingly.
Avoid posts based on a single Flickr photo set, unless the photos are really awesome. Be prepared for someone to point out sub-optimal awesomeness in the photos in any case.
Posts about old TV shows are great.
Finally, you should know that there is an ongoing war between descriptivists and prescriptivists here at MetaFilter. Pick a side, fly your flag, and give the enemy no quarter!
posted by Mister_A at 8:01 AM on April 16, 2008
No mystery links! Don't get cute with a post that sounds like a riddle and you have click on the links to solve it.
Enthusiastically seconded. A lot of people, including me, won't bother to click on the links and will mutter bad things under their breath. So you'll cut down your audience and possibly adversely affect your karma.
posted by languagehat at 8:47 AM on April 16, 2008 [1 favorite]
Enthusiastically seconded. A lot of people, including me, won't bother to click on the links and will mutter bad things under their breath. So you'll cut down your audience and possibly adversely affect your karma.
posted by languagehat at 8:47 AM on April 16, 2008 [1 favorite]
What's V-day?
It's the day we beat those fucking mouse-eating, fake human skin wearing, lizard aliens back off our planet. There was a documentary made about it.
posted by quin at 8:50 AM on April 16, 2008
It's the day we beat those fucking mouse-eating, fake human skin wearing, lizard aliens back off our planet. There was a documentary made about it.
posted by quin at 8:50 AM on April 16, 2008
"This post was deleted for the following reason: poster's request." Seems like it was a double after all. Cameramouth will live in all our hearts.
posted by Kattullus at 11:33 AM on April 16, 2008
posted by Kattullus at 11:33 AM on April 16, 2008
Mystery links are fine for everyone but the most boring, literal, everything-must-be-laid-out-on-a-platter-for-me before-I-deign-to-click-my-little-mouse-button sort of people. And we really don't like those sorts of people.
posted by Dave Faris at 11:45 AM on April 16, 2008
posted by Dave Faris at 11:45 AM on April 16, 2008
Mystery linking significantly increases the chances that people will take a dump in your thread, calling you out for wasting their time, being needlessly oblique, being lazy, etc... etc...
In most cases they are perfectly justified.
posted by Artw at 11:52 AM on April 16, 2008
In most cases they are perfectly justified.
posted by Artw at 11:52 AM on April 16, 2008
Often the best posts seem to come from a user sharing her particular interests and expertise.
LarryC
Be brave. Post what YOU find interesting and take your licks
amyms
I agree with LarryC and amyms.... I joined a few months ago, and after having made a few posts I'd say the best thing to do is just be yourself. A well-liked post leaves you with a warm glow, the chance of being deleteded drops, and if something is weak or you made a boo-boo...well, OK, that's how you learn.
posted by Kronos_to_Earth at 11:52 AM on April 16, 2008
LarryC
Be brave. Post what YOU find interesting and take your licks
amyms
I agree with LarryC and amyms.... I joined a few months ago, and after having made a few posts I'd say the best thing to do is just be yourself. A well-liked post leaves you with a warm glow, the chance of being deleteded drops, and if something is weak or you made a boo-boo...well, OK, that's how you learn.
posted by Kronos_to_Earth at 11:52 AM on April 16, 2008
In most cases they are perfectly justified.
You know, that's just wrong. There really isn't ever a good justification for taking a dump in a front page post, and that's been clearly proclaimed. And I've never seen a metatalk thread started to complain that a link is too mysterious.
posted by Dave Faris at 11:59 AM on April 16, 2008
You know, that's just wrong. There really isn't ever a good justification for taking a dump in a front page post, and that's been clearly proclaimed. And I've never seen a metatalk thread started to complain that a link is too mysterious.
posted by Dave Faris at 11:59 AM on April 16, 2008
There really isn't ever a good justification for taking a dump in a front page post
Most of the time. Most of the time. When a poster makes his post into a time wasting riddle and when the answer is actually pretty mundane and crap however....
I've never seen a metatalk thread started to complain that a link is too mysterious.
I've seen plenty of threads complaining about the mystery link phenomena, like this one.
posted by Artw at 12:04 PM on April 16, 2008
Most of the time. Most of the time. When a poster makes his post into a time wasting riddle and when the answer is actually pretty mundane and crap however....
I've never seen a metatalk thread started to complain that a link is too mysterious.
I've seen plenty of threads complaining about the mystery link phenomena, like this one.
posted by Artw at 12:04 PM on April 16, 2008
People will complain about everything ... too obscure, too this, too that ... your favorite X sucks. For every tight-assed "no mystery meat" complainer, there's at least another who doesn't mind it. You can't regulate style. Variety is the spice of life. You don't piss in the tomatoes just because you don't like them in the salad bar.
posted by Dave Faris at 12:08 PM on April 16, 2008
posted by Dave Faris at 12:08 PM on April 16, 2008
For every tight-assed "no mystery meat" complainer, there's at least another who doesn't mind it.
Well, usually you.
posted by Artw at 12:09 PM on April 16, 2008
Well, usually you.
posted by Artw at 12:09 PM on April 16, 2008
Well, I'm willing to take you all on.
posted by Dave Faris at 12:13 PM on April 16, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by Dave Faris at 12:13 PM on April 16, 2008 [2 favorites]
Camera mouth is gone!
Yeah, I did regret it this morning, just like I thought I would - and when I saw that it was a double, and was at the moment "bandwidth exceeded", I asked to have it deleted.
posted by yhbc at 1:03 PM on April 16, 2008
Yeah, I did regret it this morning, just like I thought I would - and when I saw that it was a double, and was at the moment "bandwidth exceeded", I asked to have it deleted.
posted by yhbc at 1:03 PM on April 16, 2008
The "stay away from news items" must not have taken very well. I had big hopes for someone careful enough to ask for help before making their blue debut, but that was a rather poor showing.
posted by carsonb at 2:01 PM on April 18, 2008
posted by carsonb at 2:01 PM on April 18, 2008
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posted by nkknkk at 3:59 PM on April 15, 2008