rumors! innuendo! February 20, 2009 7:19 PM   Subscribe

Sorry for the millionth metatalk post today, but shouldn't we delete this FPP?

Since the good folks at last.fm apparently didn't actually do what they were accused of doing, it doesn't really seem appropriate to keep that thing alive.

People could click into the comments and see the accusation has been flatly denied, but I know that most people won't.
posted by Pants! to Etiquette/Policy at 7:19 PM (42 comments total)

Obama's mama wasn't really trash either...
posted by gman at 7:23 PM on February 20, 2009


Only you can prevent MeTa.
posted by klangklangston at 7:25 PM on February 20, 2009


Don't be sorry for posting an unnecessary Meta callout. Just don't do it in the first place and flag posts you personally don't like instead.
posted by KokuRyu at 7:26 PM on February 20, 2009 [1 favorite]


I count seven MeTas today. If you count logarithmically, that's ten million. YOUR EXASPERATED EXAGGERATION CONTAINS A QUANTITATIVE ERROR, HORRORS
posted by fantabulous timewaster at 7:28 PM on February 20, 2009 [2 favorites]


A man, a plan, a canal, Panama!
posted by Dumsnill at 7:32 PM on February 20, 2009 [1 favorite]


KokuRyu: Don't be sorry for posting an unnecessary Meta callout. Just don't do it in the first place and flag posts you personally don't like instead.

That'd really help if this was calling out a post he personally doesn't like rather then one that's factually incorrect.
posted by flatluigi at 7:36 PM on February 20, 2009


My take on the post: we're not a news source, and the thread itself contains active discussion of the dispute including some clear sourcing of the comments from the last.fm guys. I don't think we have an obligation to quash the thread just because the stated (and itself nominally ambivalent) premise has turned out to be wrong.

That TechCrunch should probably do more than append an "update..." to the end of their story is another issue entirely, but we're not a proxy for TechCrunch and they're going to have to figure that out themselves.
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:38 PM on February 20, 2009 [1 favorite]


If the post that's just a listing of open source applications is allowed to stand then all posts must be allowed to stand.
posted by Science! at 7:48 PM on February 20, 2009 [2 favorites]


ARE YOU ON RIAA'S PAYCHECK TOO?
posted by qvantamon at 7:49 PM on February 20, 2009


That'd really help if this was calling out a post he personally doesn't like rather then one that's factually incorrect.

Since the factual mixup was determined in the MetaFilter thread, and since Tech Crunch has (apparently) not updated its story, MetaFilter is actually doing a public service by getting the facts straight. That thread really is "Best of the Web."

So flag it if you don't like it.
posted by KokuRyu at 7:49 PM on February 20, 2009


MetaFilter is actually doing a public service by getting the facts straight.

Perhaps with the OP's permission and input, the post could be modified to state that TechCrunch started an unsubstantiated rumor that has been debunked in their own comment section, rather than having it worded in a way that lends the rumor credibility.
posted by SpacemanStix at 8:04 PM on February 20, 2009


Say what you want, but I like Pants! They keep my nuts from getting cold.
posted by nola at 8:07 PM on February 20, 2009


PAAAAAAAAAAANTS!

/shatner
posted by Mister_A at 8:30 PM on February 20, 2009 [1 favorite]


We can't delete it now, no one has yet favorited my comment about Fishtank Ensemble.
posted by synaesthetichaze at 8:37 PM on February 20, 2009


Which should have been a link back to said comment, but... sigh.
posted by synaesthetichaze at 8:37 PM on February 20, 2009


Brown is the new blue.
posted by Sailormom at 8:43 PM on February 20, 2009 [1 favorite]


So what's up with the super-deletion of the second Jaws-in-reverse thread? It is deleted even from Greasemonkey.
posted by paisley henosis at 8:47 PM on February 20, 2009


A man, a plan, a canal, Panama!

Why stop there?
posted by Burhanistan at 9:01 PM on February 20, 2009 [1 favorite]


Look, for some weird sentimental reason I just don't want to delete the next two paragraphs. They deserve to be deleted, but I just can't. There's a glitch in the Show Deleted Threads script so that it fails if the most recent post to the front page gets deleted.

Yes, we're very suspicious about this SUPER DELETION POWER the mods are exhibiting today. They're growing more powerful by the MeTa post, and soon they will rule all of the Interwebs! NOTHING CAN BE DONE TO STOP THEM!!! ...

Unless there's a glitch. Yes, of course! Maybe, just maybe, The (secretive, exclusive, mysterious) Greasemonkey owns a glitch and maybe, just maybe, he'll give us this glitch and we can use the glitch against the evil powerful super-deleting mods until their powers are as they used to be! Only sorta powerful! Yes, The Greasemonkey holds our key! They glitch to survival for the entire Internet-surfing human race! The Glitch will be powerful, and will cause our secretive scripts to not display the powerful mod super-deletion evil if it be the most recent post to MetaFilter! Exclamation!

posted by carsonb at 9:01 PM on February 20, 2009


Ah. Thanks for the info.

[returned passive aggression redacted]
posted by paisley henosis at 9:18 PM on February 20, 2009


Oh man I wish I had gotten to the Jaws post sooner, so that I could've fixed this:

DUN DUN DUN DUN DUNDUNDUNDUN…!!!!

!!!!...NUDNUDNUDNUD NUD NUD NUD NUD

FTFY!
posted by abc123xyzinfinity at 9:38 PM on February 20, 2009 [1 favorite]


How does this post come close to qualifying for best of the web, if it's just a rumor on a blog? I can't imagine rumors about other websites, software, celebrities or businesses commanding cache around here. Is RIAA a fucking secret password to the Metafilter pirate lair? Tht's bngbngy.
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur at 9:44 PM on February 20, 2009


There is no superdeletion and Greasemonkey isn't a location.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 9:44 PM on February 20, 2009 [2 favorites]


Greasemonkeys should not be kept as pets, they are wild animals.
posted by Rhomboid at 10:20 PM on February 20, 2009 [2 favorites]


I know that Reddit Jaws thread was a lousy FPP, but I gotta say: the observation that if you watch Friends backwards, Courtney Cox somehow gets older ... it's chillingly true.
posted by Bookhouse at 10:38 PM on February 20, 2009 [2 favorites]


Sweet MeTa of Latvia!
posted by Effigy2000 at 10:39 PM on February 20, 2009


Greasemonkeys should not be kept as pets

I keep a Greasegerbil as a pet. I find it more than manageable, and the food costs are modest.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 3:04 AM on February 21, 2009


So what's up with the super-deletion of the second Jaws-in-reverse thread? It is deleted even from Greasemonkey.

Your comment/question was posted before another Metafilter thread was added to the front page. For me, Greasemonkey won't show a deleted thread until a new thread is posted after the one deleted.
posted by gman at 7:54 AM on February 21, 2009


Y HALLO THAR I CAN HAZ FRENCH FRIES?
posted by dirtynumbangelboy at 8:31 AM on February 21, 2009


Sorry for posting the millionth comment on your MeTa post, but I wanted to.
posted by DU at 8:33 AM on February 21, 2009


I keep a Greasegerbil as a pet.

So, too, does Richard Gere. Or, so I heard.
posted by ericb at 9:44 AM on February 21, 2009


Is this something I'd need $10,000 in software licenses to understand?
posted by Smart Dalek at 9:48 AM on February 21, 2009


So, how's that MetaFilter Police job pay? Not that well I hear. So, let the mods do their thing and you just move right along. I wonder why we even have a flag button when people don't feel like it CALLS ENOUGH ATTENTION TO THIS HORRIBLE POST/COMMENT/PERSON/PLATEOFBEANS!
posted by CwgrlUp at 9:50 AM on February 21, 2009


So, how's that MetaFilter Police job pay?

Cortex shoved me off my bicycle for $10,000 in software. I asked my mom what I should do and she said she was an orphan didn't know, but the story sounded fishy.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 10:03 AM on February 21, 2009


*whips out baton bacon*
posted by cortex (staff) at 10:08 AM on February 21, 2009


Speaking of deletions...and perhaps this has been covered elsewhere, but threads which are deleted are no longer showing up in lofi.

Is this intentional?
posted by dejah420 at 11:44 AM on February 21, 2009


Is this intentional?

Unintended consequence. What is intentional is that we're not supporting lofi anymore, so when it breaks it stays broken.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 12:04 PM on February 21, 2009


Ah, ok. (Although lofi works really well on my kindle.) Is there a new way by which we can see threads that were deleted? Sometimes there's some good stuff there.
posted by dejah420 at 12:50 PM on February 21, 2009


We can't delete it now, no one has yet favorited my comment about Fishtank Ensemble.

Well, I went and favorited it, because they are awesome!
posted by winna at 1:10 PM on February 21, 2009


There are a couple different deleted-thread scripts running around at this point, plus the unofficial deleted thread blog.
posted by cortex (staff) at 1:25 PM on February 21, 2009


A man, a plan, aca, nalp a nam A!
posted by odinsdream at 6:40 PM on February 21, 2009


I disagree that the presence of comments in the Metafilter thread that debunk the link are actually 100% useful. Indeed, after the first debunked comment was posted, there were still people exhibiting a certainly level of hystrionics regarding deleting their LastFM account.

That said, if its all right for us to post spurious rumors to the front page provided they are debunked within the thread - since that is a "public service" - I suspect that my new "techcrunch demonstrated to be run by Microsoft-loving, jail-rape supporting, police-brutality sympathizers" post will be 100% up to snuff. I'll make sure to debunk it in the "read more" section.

/snark
posted by Joey Michaels at 8:48 PM on February 22, 2009


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