Has the blue been embiggened? January 13, 2010 12:00 PM   Subscribe

The mobile version of the front page is slightly too wide for Safari on my iPhone.

Post text scrolls off the screen to the right a bit.

It looked fine last week. Perhaps the server blip banner is to blame?
posted by swift to Bugs at 12:00 PM (37 comments total)

I've noticed this in the past two days as well.
posted by eyeballkid at 12:01 PM on January 13, 2010


screenshot? It's working fine on my iPhone.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 12:01 PM on January 13, 2010


Nah, it's not the banner. It's one of the posts on the front page. If you click "Older posts" at the bottom and go to page two, that's just fine. I guess we could track down that post and edit it.
posted by pb (staff) at 12:02 PM on January 13, 2010


Oh weird, I guess it is for me too now. I swear earlier this morning it was fine.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 12:02 PM on January 13, 2010


Specifically, this post which contains a long non-breaking URL.
posted by pb (staff) at 12:04 PM on January 13, 2010


ok, edited. The front page should look better on the iPhone now.
posted by pb (staff) at 12:05 PM on January 13, 2010


Get a wider iPhone.
posted by grobstein at 12:19 PM on January 13, 2010 [2 favorites]


It happened last night, but if pb says it's fixed I believe him. Checks iPhone Yep, fixed.
posted by fixedgear at 12:23 PM on January 13, 2010


BTW, awesome job on the new layout for iPhone viewing, pb.
posted by Aquaman at 12:51 PM on January 13, 2010


In similar news, every time spikeleemajortomdickandharryconnickjrmints shows up in my contact activity, his name scrolls off the edge and breaks my front page. Is there any way to put in a line break if a username exceeds the width of the contact activity box?
posted by katemonster at 1:03 PM on January 13, 2010


Still no love for the Blackberry.
posted by Burhanistan at 1:08 PM on January 13, 2010


Still no love for the Blackberry.

By design, I'm sure. Now get back to work, you. And don't slouch on company time, either.
posted by bonehead at 1:11 PM on January 13, 2010


katemonster, sure no problem. We're trimming up long usernames now.
posted by pb (staff) at 1:32 PM on January 13, 2010


Yay! Thanks, pb, you're the best!
posted by katemonster at 1:34 PM on January 13, 2010


Still no love for the Blackberry.

Start a new request thread.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 2:50 PM on January 13, 2010


Still no love for the Blackberry.

We unfortunately don't have one to test on. How bad does the mobile site look on it?
posted by mathowie (staff) at 2:50 PM on January 13, 2010


The non-mobile site actually looks very nice on the Blackberry, although the print is very very tiny. When magnified it then becomes a side scrolling mess. The mobile site by and large doesn't work at all. The home screen appears but the links don't function, other than they all become highlighted. The mobile site did seem to work better a few months back, but even then it would only display the last 5 posts from any of the subsites, and none of the links within any threads would work.
posted by Burhanistan at 2:56 PM on January 13, 2010


(Blackberry 8900, Javascript enabled)
posted by Burhanistan at 2:56 PM on January 13, 2010


When you say mobile site do you mean mobile.metafilter.com? We haven't touched the code for that in years, and we stopped all development on it. We should probably shut down that URL, but if people get some use of it that's fine.

We're not going to fix any issues over there though, so your best bet for now is to view the standard site on your Blackberry. I assume we'll eventually create a custom stylesheet for the Blackberry like we've done for the iPhone and Android. But it helps to hold one of these devices in our hands. The Blackberry emulator is awful, barely runs enough for some quick tests, and even then piles up Java errors. As mentioned in the other threads about this, we just don't see as much traffic from the Blackberry OS as we do from other mobile devices. Part of that is because the iPhone and Android phones are made specifically to browse the web with larger screens and more full-featured browsers that don't require a special proxy server to crunch pages.

Writing a custom stylesheet for the Blackberry is possible, but it's going to require a certain amount of work to make sure everything can fit in the smaller viewport. And we have to weigh the number of people who want to visit on a Blackberry vs. the amount of development time involved. I know it's a bummer we don't have a Blackberry-specific version when that's your platform of choice, but it is something we're considering.
posted by pb (staff) at 3:09 PM on January 13, 2010


Pretty please make a stylesheet for the Palm WebOS phones. It shouldn't be too different from the iPhone and Android ones. You can get a real emulator that Just Works (it emulates the whole phone in VirtualBox) with the WebOS SDK.
posted by zsazsa at 5:31 PM on January 13, 2010


When you say mobile site do you mean mobile.metafilter.com? We haven't touched the code for that in years, and we stopped all development on it.

Ah, ok. That would explain it. I thought that was what people were referring to for some reason. It appears vaguely iPhone-ish so that's why I made the assumption. But yeah, the non-mobile site is mostly ok on the Blackberry, so long as you hold the device very close. Problem is, I only view it from under the table when I'm in long meetings and such when wouldn't be appropriate to hold a smartphone up! Maybe it's time to break out the iPod Touch that's sitting unopened in my desk.
posted by Burhanistan at 6:44 AM on January 14, 2010


To be serious, the default page on the BB 8900 doesn't look too bad.

Here is a page of screenshots taken directly from the device. The real problem is that the screen isn't huge and nothing on the web really looks great on it. Note that I usually use the white background style and since the BB web browser has terrible JS support, I can't edit my profile on the device.

The one tweak I would ask for is that the headers on the main page, or what ever they're called, be adjusted so that we don't have the huge amount of space on the right side. Other than that, I don't really see the need for a lot of BB-specific changes to the stylesheets.
posted by bonehead at 8:49 AM on January 14, 2010


You know, we could try tuning on the existing iPhone or Android stylesheet for Blackberry OS and just see if that works better. It's hard to tweak without a device in my hand, but maybe that change alone would be enough of an improvement to make things tolerable.
posted by pb (staff) at 9:04 AM on January 14, 2010


If you do, I can act as your test monkey. It's not that hard to pull screenshots off the device and onto the web.
posted by bonehead at 9:08 AM on January 14, 2010


BTW, if anyone else wants to help, I'm using CaptureIt to do the screen shots. Point your mobile browser to http://m.thetechmogul.com/ and install the application. It adds a "Capture" item to your browser menu, which saves screenshots in your pictures directory.
posted by bonehead at 9:11 AM on January 14, 2010


ok, I tried the Android stylesheet out on the 8530 emulator and it was 90% of the way there. Comment pages looked awful so I went ahead and created a custom Blackberry stylesheet with all the trimmings and turned it on. I didn't spend too much time on it so I'm sure there's more tweaking to do, but let me know how the new style is working. I'm also guessing there will be differences between various models, but hopefully these tweaks put us in the ballpark.
posted by pb (staff) at 10:22 AM on January 14, 2010


pb, that's pretty damn good. The margins are much better and the menu at the bottom is much easier to click. The [skip to menu] link is borked, but since you can just press B on the keypad to go to the bottom of the page that feature is a bit redundant. All in all, thanks!
posted by Burhanistan at 10:34 AM on January 14, 2010


oh, didn't know about the B. I'll go ahead and remove that link altogether.
posted by pb (staff) at 10:36 AM on January 14, 2010


I agree, this looks much, much better. All of the nice BB shortcuts seem to work in the comment box too, including spell check.

Posted, not coincidentally, from my Blackberry.
posted by bonehead at 10:40 AM on January 14, 2010


Yeah, BBs have a lot of page navigation shortcuts. The most common are listed here.

The javascript buttons don't work on the BBs either: [add favourites] [+] or [!]. You may want to strip those out too.
posted by bonehead at 10:43 AM on January 14, 2010


bonehead, are you sure you don't have javascript turned off? Make sure the option is checked in your browser properties. Those buttons work fine for me.
posted by Burhanistan at 10:46 AM on January 14, 2010


I think some Blackberry models do support JavaScript, so I don't want to turn that off for everyone. I think the warning page is a good notification for people who are expecting something to happen when they click those buttons.
posted by pb (staff) at 10:47 AM on January 14, 2010


You're both right, I had JS turned off. That must be how my device came by default---I don't remember doing that. Sorry! With it on, the buttons seem to work fine.
posted by bonehead at 11:05 AM on January 14, 2010


If you dislike the way that the BB browser zooms or lays out metafilter (or any other page for that matter) please, please, please email them and complain (and get your friends too). Some poor soul who is working on this sort of stuff *cough* needs feedback from users.
posted by captaincrouton at 7:56 PM on January 14, 2010


why get rid of the skip to menu? Not every BB user has a keyboard. I would like a quick way to get to the bottom of a thread on my Storm.
posted by nimsey lou at 7:19 AM on January 23, 2010


oh, didn't realize that. I thought the keyboard was a defining feature of the BB. I added the skip to menu back and tested again with the 8530 emulator and it was working fine. I think it also gives a nice heads up that there is a menu at the bottom of the page for people viewing the site on their BB for the first time.
posted by pb (staff) at 9:17 AM on January 25, 2010


Yippie! Thanks pb. The skip to menu works great.
posted by nimsey lou at 4:29 PM on January 27, 2010


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