What's Wrong With MetaFilter February 26, 2002 9:35 PM   Subscribe

This is the best write-up of what's wrong with metafilter to date. Especially the graphs and illustrations. Fine work, mr. edrants.
posted by mathowie to MetaFilter-Related at 9:35 PM (34 comments total)

Great stuff.

"Dwindle recommends that Metafilter not quibble with the niceties of what the community once was, but rather attempt to embrace precisely where it's heading."

Indeed.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 9:51 PM on February 26, 2002


that it is not unlike high school in its methodology

See, Matt, I was right after all.
posted by jonmc at 9:55 PM on February 26, 2002


Matt, when you die, can I have your user number?
posted by anapestic at 10:10 PM on February 26, 2002


Dwindle & Associates are soo underrated.
posted by riffola at 10:12 PM on February 26, 2002


anapestic, I'm not so greedy. May I have your user number when you're unceremoniously thrown out the door for sacrilege? If not, matt, then what he said.

Nice gravestone, BTW.
posted by ashbury at 10:14 PM on February 26, 2002


What's Johnny Cash's username? And does he secretly still log on to read the site after flipping us all the bird?
posted by snarkout at 10:25 PM on February 26, 2002


but rather attempt to embrace precisely where it's heading.

I do, wherever it goes.
Actually, watching the dynamics of how 13000(actually more like 1500 or so hard-core) interact is an interesting exercise in amateur sociology and is another reason I keep coming back.
posted by jonmc at 10:29 PM on February 26, 2002


Not that I want Matt to die or anything, you know. Just if he's going to die, someone might as well benefit, and it might as well be me. Also, I'm willing to act as a medium and channel his contributions from beyond the grave, although I know that posting on behalf of non-members is frowned on.

But certainly, I'd rather have Matt around than have his extremely coveted user number. Well, almost certainly. I mean, probably. I mean, the probability is greater than zero.
posted by anapestic at 10:33 PM on February 26, 2002


anapestic, yer gonna burn in HELL! Besides, everybody knows that mediums are charlatans. Bloody tablerappers.
posted by ashbury at 10:46 PM on February 26, 2002


Mr. Cash is actually a Type A user here. Because Mr. Cash has actually been here for some time, defying the normal MeFi user, Dwindle & Associates paid him $5,000 for his input in the study. I didn't quite understand the math myself, given that Dwindle had billed me $23.47 for the methodology. But Dwindle told me privately that "cashnot$$$" would go through the cycle more hasty than the average user, guns ablazing with a volley of words leaving even the old guard scratching their pates. His iconic photograph was thus necessary in communicating the results.
posted by ed at 11:04 PM on February 26, 2002


I think the answer is quite clear. Matt must never be allowed to die. Ever. Haughey, I think it's time to jack your wetware into the hivemind.
posted by owillis at 11:07 PM on February 26, 2002


"Jacking your wetware" sounds so....naughty. Not sure how you go about it, but I'm willing to bet it's fun!
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 12:06 AM on February 27, 2002


I'm not too sure what all that edrants stuff meant, but I didn't see my name specifically, so everything's cool.
posted by dong_resin at 1:08 AM on February 27, 2002


I just gotta ask: is this how the Mormons started?
posted by ZachsMind at 1:44 AM on February 27, 2002


Brigham Young doesn't look like Matt... but you have to wonder
posted by owillis at 2:09 AM on February 27, 2002


That was great fun and very true. Thanks, edrants! Things will never be the same as students start tracking the Greens, the Blues and the Reds in their constantly shifting modes and moods. Now all we need is for skallas to set up a "What MetaFilter Type Are You?" questionnaire. ;)
posted by MiguelCardoso at 4:00 AM on February 27, 2002


This deserves a specially thought up Dwindle's Law.
posted by MiguelCardoso at 4:03 AM on February 27, 2002


Amusing. And frighteningly accurate. Of particular note is the statement Stavros already quoted. Nice post.
posted by Su at 4:14 AM on February 27, 2002


It's always nice to see a shout out to "the Fonz."
posted by ColdChef at 5:02 AM on February 27, 2002


There could be a new breed of user about to appear- one that doesn't expect much and therefore doesn't get disillusioned quite so easily. I can't envisage a situation where I would loose interest, partially because I don't attempt to get that much out of this place. I lurk a lot on the front page, possibly hitting 1 in 10 links, reading 1- 15 thread, commenting very rarely, and that works great for me. My point being that I've never thought of this place as somewhere where every link posted is likely to interest me, or that there would be that many discussions of note.

The old adage - you can't miss something that you never had, or never knew.
posted by RobertLoch at 5:13 AM on February 27, 2002


Doesn't that breed of user already exist in numbers? I know plenty of people who lurk at the same or lower levels than you do (including myself) and they seem to be fine with MeFi. While we would all like the front page of MeFi to be filled with links and comments that are all stimulating and interesting to us (and of course this ideal would be different for everyone) I find it useful to think that most of the stuff there will not interest me. I do get a little annoyed about large numbers of links that seem to be completely useless and of no interest to anybody though.

What irritates me most however is when an otherwise interesting post or thread is taken over by silly, off-topic comments; I am not suggesting that this has happened in this thread - I think it's sadly a MeFi-wide phenomenon.
posted by adrianhon at 7:27 AM on February 27, 2002


I know someone who claims to have read every comment on Metatalk and Metafilter for the past two years.
Posting to the front page is an honor. It's saying to this brilliant community, "here I am, and I think that I might have something interesting to say". Acceptance or rejection should be feared. Users should feel privileged to post here, and should think about and construct their posts for a few hours before actually posting.

Unfortunately, it's hard to give the site that level of respect when so many others don't.
posted by goneill at 8:06 AM on February 27, 2002


/me starts waving hands Al Jolson-style, hero-worshipping mlang.
posted by MiguelCardoso at 8:29 AM on February 27, 2002


miguello, as though you haven't read every comment...

Anyway - the thing that i'm trying to say, is that people should be a little bit more circumspect in their front page posts. And, not you Miguel, as you are brilliant and post only interesting things to the front page. But others, should do a lot of background reading before they post, get the feel of the place, and not bombard Metafilter with their own innanity.

What are those phrases about calling the kettle black, throwing rocks from houses, I am a loser hypocrite.

But, I'm also trying to say that otherwise circumspect posters are less circumspect than they should be because of the general level.
posted by goneill at 8:40 AM on February 27, 2002


love Metafilter or leave it....nuff said? Nuff said!
posted by Mack Twain at 10:11 AM on February 27, 2002


Things will never be the same as students start tracking the Greens, the Blues and the Reds in their constantly shifting modes and moods.

miguel: moodfilter? someone could do an accompanying program for mefi/meta a la moodlogic. one could drag the link to either a post or comment to the proggy, hit a mood button on how it makes the user feel and then that information could suggest other posts/comments that may jibe with your ratings.

like i'll ever get that pony...
posted by boogah at 10:31 AM on February 27, 2002


Metafilter, in the mind of the individual user, must remain as pure as Colombian cocaine.

Thinking what I'm thinking?

posted by brittney at 1:12 PM on February 27, 2002


Thinking what I'm thinking?

The dog wet my bed, and I so totally want to do him like right now?
posted by obiwanwasabi at 2:51 PM on February 27, 2002


obiwanwasabi, that was just horrible...

Yes, horrible.
*slides £50 back into wallet*
Listen.. uh.. I think I misunderstood what was going down at this thread-
(backs away towards exit)
-so I'm just gonna go...

posted by lotsofno at 3:59 PM on February 27, 2002


shoutout to d_r by the way.
posted by lotsofno at 4:00 PM on February 27, 2002


Heh.
Neato.
posted by dong_resin at 4:12 PM on February 27, 2002


the problem with reading every comment is that one always finds oneself running one or more days behind and therefore never gets to contribute to any discussions; by the time one reads an entire thread and feels moved to post therein, one tends to find that either (a) one's point has already been expressed (often less eloquently or thoroughly than one might have expressed the point oneself — although the blame for that can fall no place but on one's own shoulders in that, assuming the responsibility of complete participation, one must also adhere to reasonable standards of timeliness) or (b) all discussion will have ceased and participants will have moved on, creating a situation where posting would be useless, even if one has something new to add, because one's post would never be read except perhaps by some metafilter archaeologist which (no disrespect to said archaeologist intended) does not constitute the whole of one's ideal audience.
posted by mlang at 8:27 AM on March 5, 2002


damn. it's happened again.
posted by mlang at 8:27 AM on March 5, 2002


(hello, archaeologist!)
posted by mlang at 8:28 AM on March 5, 2002


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