Best of the Web: Stupid Videos? September 17, 2010 11:54 PM   Subscribe

5x SYLT (32x SYLT): Has Metafilter.com simply become a Youtube/Othertube Internet video bookmarker?

The last many hours of Metafilter:

Marvel characters as cats (stupid videos)

Barenaked Ladies (stupid videos)

Warren Zevon (eighteen stupid videos)

Baby monkey riding on a pig (stupid video)

OK, I get that stupid videos are part of the Word Wide Web. Why can't this be a spinoff category (stupidsylt.metafilter.com) to segregate the disappointment for the rest of us for everything else?
posted by gum to MetaFilter-Related at 11:54 PM (138 comments total) 1 user marked this as a favorite

but its about stupid things
things that make us laugh
posted by clavdivs at 11:58 PM on September 17, 2010


Hi, no.
posted by Memo at 12:00 AM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]


Mmmm, you see the little in-line arrow? That arrow is saying "nothing for you here, move along!"

Hey, I was just logged out and didn't see the arrow, is it only for us members? I feel like I'm in a special club!
posted by yellowbinder at 12:00 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


OK, SLYT, lovely. So why does metafilter.com exist? Why don't we all comment on startribune.com instead?
posted by gum at 12:03 AM on September 18, 2010


Why shouldn't Metafilter just be a plugin at Youtube.com?
posted by gum at 12:06 AM on September 18, 2010


gum, I see that you have not made a front page post. Perhaps you would like to contribute to that page in a way that does not include links to YouTube videos? Please note that I'm not trying to be a bitch here; I myself haven't contributed to the front page, either. But if you're so concerned with the stupidity level of MeFi, shouldn't you try to find and link non-stupid things instead of just complaining about the stuff you don't like?
posted by Mizu at 12:12 AM on September 18, 2010 [21 favorites]


I mean, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, YouTube, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, YouTube, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, YouTube, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, YouTube, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, YouTube, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, YouTube, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, YouTube, stupid, repeat as necessary.

This is a fairly interesting Internet Website, except for all of the stupid SLYT crap. Can't it simply be cut out? Or is there some awards ceremony where Metafilter is competing with Reddit, Yelp, Fark, and stupid.com?
posted by gum at 12:12 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


Metafilter: Segregate your disappointment!
posted by Babblesort at 12:13 AM on September 18, 2010


This is a terrible post.
posted by dhammond at 12:13 AM on September 18, 2010 [20 favorites]


gum: "Why shouldn't Metafilter just be a plugin at Youtube.com"

Ooh, ooh! I can ask ridiculous questions too!

Why shouldn't butterscotch be a contraceptive?

Why don't sugar gliders have their own Congressional district?

Why does the famous purple stuffed worm in flap-jaw space with the tuning fork do a raw blink
blink on Hari-kiri Rock?
posted by ShawnStruck at 12:14 AM on September 18, 2010 [63 favorites]


This is about Metafilter is about promoting stupid videos. Is Metafilter about promoting stupid videos? Are you OK with that?
posted by gum at 12:16 AM on September 18, 2010


gum: “Marvel characters as cats (stupid videos)”

Your clichéd callout would have more teeth if you'd actually looked at the links you're calling out. That's not a video link at all. It's a link to a blog filled with images of Marvel characters as cats. Where are these 'stupid videos' you're upset about?

I know you've been here four days longer than I have, but you should notice that the mods have pretty strict standards of quality here, and they cleave to those standards nicely, I think. If you'd like, you can peruse the deleted threads blog and count all the posts that get deleted because 'meh, this isn't much, just a stupid video.' Happens several times most days, actually.

The upshot is: if it feels to you as if the videos that end up staying on the front page aren't worth posts, either they just don't suit your taste, or... perhaps you're not actually clicking the links to see if you'll like them. Perhaps you're just assuming they're stupid videos.
posted by koeselitz at 12:17 AM on September 18, 2010 [6 favorites]


gum: "This is about Metafilter is about promoting stupid videos. Is Metafilter about promoting stupid videos? Are you OK with that"

This is about candy corn is about being delicious. Is candy corn about being delicious? Are you gonna eat that?
posted by ShawnStruck at 12:19 AM on September 18, 2010 [8 favorites]


You didn't just call Warren Zevon "stupid," did you? Because that's kind of maybe a problem.
posted by infinitywaltz at 12:22 AM on September 18, 2010 [33 favorites]


Okay, maybe I need to read the post better before responding.

You think Warren fucking Zevon is stupid?

Good god. This is hopeless.

Look, we've given it a go here, gum. We've tried. We really have. You kept coming here and clicking; we kept sharing stuff we thought was neat. It would be one thing if you thought our dumb jokes were stupid, but that Warren Zevon post was well-thought and lovingly crafted, so hearing you say it's stupid just hurts. If you think all the things we like are stupid, maybe it's time for us to face the possibility that we just don't have very much in common. You know, it's possible for people to care very much about each other and yet just not be compatible in the end. There have been some swell times, and it'd be hard to let you go, but I think we both know that you'll just be happier if you go out into the wide world and find another web site to cherish and hold close on those cold October nights that are just around the corner.
posted by koeselitz at 12:26 AM on September 18, 2010 [16 favorites]


wish someone would write a script to let me 'post' from youtube directly.
feel bad for vimeo, guess it's not worth an arrow
think I'll change my style, post multi link youtubes now
wish Astro Zombie would write a song protesting youtubes so cortex could sing it to me

Will this post ‘save’ Metafilter?
Is SYLT the 'new' SLYT?
Do you 'feel bad' for mathowie?
Did Metafilter ever exist?
Did pb invent youtube?
Where would MetaFilter/AskMeFi/Projects/Music/Jobs/Podcast/IRL be without a MetaTalk

apologies to Hipster Runoff
posted by yellowbinder at 12:27 AM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]


This post is terrible. You are terrible.
posted by empath at 12:27 AM on September 18, 2010 [11 favorites]


I am all for a fourth metafilter page called commercialvideos.metafilter.com, and we can all go there and post about fighting monkeys and Warren Zevon and how to have a delicious enema and so on. That would allow an absolutely frightful and absolutely riveting discussion to occur across all equally disappointing commercial video subjects without them infecting metafilter.com itself. That is what I am all for. These youtube.com and other crap video posts drag this website down.
posted by gum at 12:29 AM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]


gum: " These youtube.com and other crap video posts drag this website down"

Actually I'm in charge of dragging MetaFilter down this week. I have to look at my schedule to see who my replacement is on Monday.
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 12:34 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


I also disapprove of Single Yink LouTube posts.
posted by Sys Rq at 12:34 AM on September 18, 2010 [11 favorites]


And I don't understand why "Here are my favorite promotional YouTube videos for my favorite musician" qualify as "Best of the Web" rather than "Get Your Own Blog" drops? What's the double standard here?
posted by gum at 12:35 AM on September 18, 2010


Okay, let's be clear on this, gum: what the fuck is wrong with Warren Zevon? And what the fuck was wrong with that post – which, I'll point out to you (since even reading the posts seems to be too much trouble) is not principally about Warren Zevon? Seriously, there are no metrics by which that wasn't a good post. And if you thought it wasn't a good post, I can only surmise two things: (a) you don't know three shits about music; and (b) you don't like the internet.

Seriously, man. I challenge you to watch this and not enjoy the crap out of it. It's awesome. It's quality stuff, it's a good link, and it was presented in context with information about the performance and the situation in which was performed. Sincerely, even if it was crappy music, what more could you hope for in a good post? And since it happens to be awesome music... what are you complaining about, anyway?
posted by koeselitz at 12:39 AM on September 18, 2010 [4 favorites]


You know, there is a magical way to deal with all of this angst. Flag it and move on.

FIAMO has been brought up, if I recall, in nearly every 'These posts are stupid, and Metafilter would be better off without them" rant that's been posted to the gray since, well, who knows. Some people like them. Other's don't. Many, of the people who don't like them just Don't. Read. Them.

Feel free to give it a try.
posted by Ghidorah at 12:39 AM on September 18, 2010 [3 favorites]


In this Metatalk thread there is some discussion of a client-side script to filter out single-link youtube posts, but the links to it are dead. Google turned up a reference to a greasemonkey script for it at wcitymike's tumblr but that link is dead as well. I tried just going to userscripts.org/tags/metafilter to browse for it as suggested in the FAQ, but for some reason even that is down for me.

This issue did not bother me whatsoever until I started trying to help you but now I'm really angry about it.
posted by churl at 12:41 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


I just drank some more bourbon and I've pretty much settled down again.
posted by churl at 12:42 AM on September 18, 2010 [4 favorites]


Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Butterscotch isn't a contraceptive?

Oh, shit.
posted by smoke at 12:43 AM on September 18, 2010 [16 favorites]


Maybe you could pick up some bourbon, they sell it at the liquor store.
posted by churl at 12:43 AM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]


i cannot believe i slept from 7:00 pm til 2:00 am.

Paging: carsonb (Emminant demise of Metafilter predicted: sub-section
'The Tube', tubes filtered metaphysically.)

see the point but laughing is good.
posted by clavdivs at 12:47 AM on September 18, 2010


gum, the first fpp on Metafilter was about putting cats in scanners. It's ok for Metafilter to be dumb on occasion and it's not going to stop just because you're the latest person to start whining about it.
posted by stavrogin at 12:58 AM on September 18, 2010 [5 favorites]


gum: “And I don't understand why "Here are my favorite promotional YouTube videos for my favorite musician" qualify as "Best of the Web" rather than "Get Your Own Blog" drops? What's the double standard here?”

What are "Get Your Own Blog" drops? Are they like "gum" drops?

Anyhow, seriously, gum: I know you feel like crap's slipping through the cracks, but honestly I think you're not seeing this clearly. The Metafilter mods are extremely involved with how the site works, they're careful with how they moderate it, and they delete crappy video posts all the time. It's not like 'oh wait, we could delete video posts if we want!' is an idea that hasn't occurred to them.

Since you're in the minority on this, gum, and since the mods disagree with you on it (at least they've indicated that they do by not deleting the 'stupid' stuff you're annoyed by, and they've dealt with this question before on metatalk) I think you're just going to have to accept that maybe you don't like stuff that other people might like. That's okay.
posted by koeselitz at 12:59 AM on September 18, 2010


gum said: These youtube.com and other crap video posts drag this website down.

Down from where?

I'm picturing gum reading Metafilter while perched upon a bright, shining, pristine cloud, floating high above the lowly interwebs. Then someone posts a YouTube video, and -- oh noes! -- all of a sudden, withered fingers stained with rancid Cheetos dust clench around gum's computer, dragging the entirety of Metafilter down, down, DOWN into the abyss.

Sorry, but I can't really see where your outrage is coming from, gum. If you don't like the YouTube-related posts, don't click on them. There are lots of topics like I don't like on Metafilter, but I don't let them drag me down, I just skip them.
posted by amyms at 1:04 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


that* I don't like

My kingdom for an edit window!
posted by amyms at 1:06 AM on September 18, 2010


Metafilter is a diverse mix of posts. You're not going to love every post, and if this is something that really, honestly bothers you, then there's no solution for you. Some people will love things, some people won't.

What's more, people aren't one-dimensional . If you're typically interested in archaic aspects of social justice, you can still laugh at, say, a monkey riding a pig.

And I think you're incorrectly characterizing all YouTube videos as being lower quality, when that's just not true. Video is very much a part of the Internet, and this site really does act as a good filter for the really great ones. Look at the youtube tag: sure, some of the links might not be "best of the web" (I'm not a fan of the koran burning parody), but there's some great posts that consist mostly of YouTube links.

Plus, you know, I'm pretty sure filthy light thief's posts make up for any shortcomings in quality this site has.
posted by spiderskull at 1:22 AM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]


Someone taunted the dynamite monkey.
posted by Hesychia at 1:48 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


There's people here who bemoan every Lady GaGa post, probably I'd be one of them except that I think she's just so much goddamn fun that my hair moves around, or something, just from seeing her latest hair or hat or shoes or video, etc and etc; she gets me to smiling, I get just the biggest kick out of her cool vibe, all of it an inside joke somehow -- what fun! I'd never have come across her if not for finding her here on this site -- I'm one of these no TV people, no lame-o magazines, I live through an internet connection and much of my time on that internet connection is on this site. And I trust -- mostly -- the strength of this community, and while there are plenty of things here that don't blow my skirt up, there are way *more* things here that *do* blow my skirt up. It's a fair trade, seems to me.

And maybe there could be a place for video postings on this site. (www.MetaVid.metafilter.com) Except that a lot of video postings do in fact tell the whole story, or maybe a vid posted with just the barest sketch of commentary to set the thread moving on its way. I don't know, and I don't need to know, there are plenty of people better qualified than I to make those types of judgments, implement changes if they're deemed fit. Myself, I mostly sortof wanna enjoy what's here, without getting my shorts in a twirl, and mostly I'm able to do so. Your call, but might be you'd like to give that a try here for a couple days or more, see if it's a good fit for you...
posted by dancestoblue at 1:59 AM on September 18, 2010


These youtube.com and other crap video posts drag this website down.

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posted by empath at 2:17 AM on September 18, 2010 [25 favorites]


That's a whole lot of stupids!
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 2:27 AM on September 18, 2010


This callout would be considered cruelty in more civilized places like South Carolina and Pakistan.
posted by mullacc at 2:38 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


Those single-link eighteen-link posts really rile me up.
posted by robself at 2:50 AM on September 18, 2010 [4 favorites]


gum: "Why can't this be a spinoff category (stupidsylt.metafilter.com)..."

I like the idea of a Stupid Single You Link Tubes site. We could even host them in series!
posted by iamkimiam at 2:56 AM on September 18, 2010


You can filter out the SLYT sites from your view of the site using a GreaseMonkey script or similar.
posted by Maximian at 2:58 AM on September 18, 2010


Monkey riding pig is not a stupid video. Monkey riding pig is an AWESOME video.
posted by Artw at 3:00 AM on September 18, 2010 [6 favorites]


It should be pretty easy to tell from the title of a post, and, perhaps, the first five comments, whether a link's going to be to your liking. The best of the web takes many forms.
posted by doublehappy at 3:06 AM on September 18, 2010


Where's my date?
posted by The Lady is a designer at 3:15 AM on September 18, 2010


No, but here's where I can make my own gripe without raising it to the level of a new MeTa thread.

I counted *5* examples of "I know I am a special snowflake/snowflake filter" etc. on just the FIRST page of AskMe questions yesterday.

We know you're a special snowflake already. Do we need that in every other AskMe question now?
posted by fourcheesemac at 3:21 AM on September 18, 2010 [8 favorites]


AL THESE VIDEOS ARE SO STUPID I AM CLUTCHING MY HANDS SUCH THAT MY FIGNERNAILS ARE DIGGING INTO MY PALM AND BLOOD IS DRIPPING

SO STUPID, HERES AN IDEA WHY NOT MAKE A GOOD POSTS INSTEAD OF A STUPID ONE

IM GONNA GO READ A REAL WEBSITE LIKE THE YAHOO FRONTPAGE, CATCH YOU LATER
posted by Greg Nog at 3:32 AM on September 18, 2010 [17 favorites]


No you're stupid!
posted by carsonb at 3:43 AM on September 18, 2010


What's wrong with stupid posts? We like stupid posts. I like this one, and it's one of the stupidest ever.
posted by Elmore at 3:47 AM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]


I'm seeing four single link YouTube posts on the front page: Barenaked Ladies; Monkey Riding a Pig; Making Puppets with Jim Henson, and Dinner with Henry Miller.

Of those, if you aren't into Barenaked Ladies or silly pet tricks, you might consider them stupid. I don't, but whatever. The others are merely of interest to you or not. That's two stupid SLYT in two or three days. Scanning back quickly, it looks like the last SLYT before these was on September 14. Also not stupid.

The Marvel characters as cats wasn't a video. The Warren Zevon wasn't a single link post, and wasn't about Warren Zevon -- it was a multi-link post of YouTube links of a documentary about (then) young up and coming musicians. Some posts have included video links along with other links, like Niagra Falls... slowly I turned. One multi-link post was a TV special that can now be found in parts on YouTube.

For me, personally, I can take or leave Barenaked Ladies, but you'll pry my piggyriding monkey from my cold, dead, Stupid-Single-Yink-LouTube-Post-clicking fingers. About once every four days or so.
posted by taz at 3:47 AM on September 18, 2010 [6 favorites]


This is about Metafilter is about promoting stupid videos. Is Metafilter about promoting stupid videos? Are you OK with that? --- Yes, apparently it is, and apparently we are. The pendulum swings one way, and it's all politics all the time, and then the pendulum swings the other way, and we're all stupid all the time.

Life is like that in other ways, too. Ebb, and flow. Don't fight it, man.
posted by crunchland at 3:48 AM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]


Also, I've pretty much favourtied the fuck out of this thread because Warren Zevon is awesome. Thanks for pointing it out to me, I'd missed it. You're a star Gum, a true gent.
posted by Elmore at 3:49 AM on September 18, 2010


Personally, I liked the hosing video. Didn't go down well though, did it?
posted by PeterMcDermott at 3:49 AM on September 18, 2010


Stupidfilter: it's about Metafilter is about.
posted by Elmore at 3:52 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


SO STUPID, HERES AN IDEA WHY NOT MAKE A GOOD POSTS INSTEAD OF A STUPID ONE

Oh, HENRY.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 4:04 AM on September 18, 2010


(The Marvel-Characters-as-Cats post is a link to a bunch of images, not videos. Don't scroll so fast down the page and you won't accidentally animate them.)
posted by robocop is bleeding at 4:36 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


Marvel characters as cats
Barenaked Ladies
Warren Zevon


If you shuffle those around a little - and separate the Marvel characters and cats into two categories - you've basically listed most of the important benchmarks in my life. Put that way, it's sort of difficult not to take your MeTa personally, now.

YOUR STUPID CRAP META.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 5:32 AM on September 18, 2010


gum: you're not alone. i've thought about making this post myself, but ... well, you can see how it's received. i agree with you, though, and wish either that there were some more stringent guidelines on slyts or that they somehow be ... confined. like youtube tuesdays, or something. (aside: is that how flash fridays evolved?) some of these are like shooting fish in a barrel for either the 'awwwwww' factor or the 'RAWK!' sentiment. there never seems to be any more justification than 'well, I like it.' but best of the web? sure, if viral = excellence then i agree.

and yeah ... the 'well why don't YOU post something better if you don't like it?' argument is sort of puerile. not that there isn't some kind of logic attached, but we all know it's easier said than done.

and finally: BABY MONKEY RIDING BACKWARD ON A PIG! viral or not, i like that one. but wouldn't it have been done much better as a post if it had been a link in a parry gripp post?
posted by msconduct at 5:36 AM on September 18, 2010


i've thought about making this post myself, but ... well, you can see how it's received.

Yeah, I'm kind of surprised you didn't see this coming, unfortunate as is it is.

Anyway, I myself have no objection to single-link posts or SLYT posts in particular. If it's an interesting link, it's an interesting link, and sometimes one link is enough, and sometimes it happens to be a video. It would suck if that's all anybody ever posted, though frankly I'd take SLYTFilter over BreakingNewsOutrageFilter any day of the week.

I do wish more people would flag the weak-sauce links, though. I really don't understand the reluctance people have to flagging stuff that's lame. It's not like there's a flag theshold that automatically results in deletion or banning, and it's not like flagging is a malicious tool that can really be abused around here. It's mods-eyes-only, and they decide every deletion on a case-by-case basis. If more people flagged stuff that they thought was Not For MetaFilter, then the mods would be more likely to see it and go "Wow, people really don't like this" instead of "Meh, not great but not deleteworthy either."
posted by Gator at 6:03 AM on September 18, 2010


Quoting from the gtuidelines:

A good post to MetaFilter is something that meets the following criteria: most people haven't seen it before, there is something interesting about the content on the page, and it might warrant discussion from others.

There is no policy banning links to videos.

I agree that the Barenaked Ladies post is weak. An old documentary that some of us might think is interesting now available on YouTube? That's exactly what MetaFilter is for.

The mods do delete weak posts. If you think something is weak or otherwise violates the guidelines, flag it. If the mods agree with you, they'll delete it.
posted by nangar at 6:12 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


guidelines ...
posted by nangar at 6:14 AM on September 18, 2010


gum, all i can say is baby monkey on a pig is watching you masticate
posted by pyramid termite at 6:17 AM on September 18, 2010


I might approve of Tingle Sink YouLube posts, but only while I'm not at work.
posted by Gorgik at 6:23 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


I too think Metafilter should be exactly as I want it to be. Evidently the other 49,999 people here have a problem with that, go figure.
posted by nomadicink at 6:26 AM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]


I want to write something lathered in naked hostility regarding this post, but instead I'm going to eat a huge bowl of Cinnamon Toast Crunch.
posted by rocketman at 6:28 AM on September 18, 2010


user: gum
what is the problem? check all that apply:

[ ] I am a new member
[x] I am a longtime member
[ ] One of my comments was deleted
[ ] One of my posts was deleted
[ ] I've spotted a particularly egregious use of "special snowflake"
[ ] I've spotted a particularly egregious use of "hamburger"
[ ] I've spotted a use of "hamburger"
[x] There are too many posts here that don't reflect my interests
[x] The posts here don't reflect the possibly-apocryphal higher quality that I remember MetaFilter once having
[ ] This thing I'm reading now seems an awful lot like something I read here before
[ ] Everyone here is an unthinking uncaring jerk except me
[ ] Someone is trying to use guilt, ethics, or logic to make me behave more politely on the Internet
[ ] Nobody here has a sense of humor
[ ] I've just discovered that not everyone has the same standards for taking offense as I do
[ ] People seem to be ignoring me
[ ] Everyone seems to be piling on to me
[ ] A conversation I started tacked in ways I both didn't expect and do not like
[ ] Yes, I flagged it, but I find that I can't move on
[ ] People are talking about grilled cheese
[ ] My canary will die if it gets the slightest whiff of the chatfilter, and its starting to look woozy in it's cage
[ ] Other people misspell words to taunt me, I am certain of it
[ ] Somebody has accurately pointed out something awful I said or did
[ ] I miss all the recipes that used to be posted in MetaTalk
[x] The rules of this place aren't consistently applied in the manner I feel they should be
[ ] The rules of the universe aren't consistently applied in the manner I feel they should be
[ ] I suspect the [[AND I AM OUTRAGED!]] button does nothing

[[AND I AM OUTRAGED!]]


I've probably run this joke into the ground by now, and I promise not to get that much more mileage out of it (even though it still amuses me). My main point, though, is that I haven't belabored this joke anywhere nearly as often as we've rehashed the same tired SYLT debate. This is part of site culture now, gum, by gum! It's not going anywhere, and it needn't go anywhere either.

*Ahem* My second point is that if ever there were a use for an [[AN I AM OUTRAGED!]] button, this callout is surely it. Dankyouveddymuch.
posted by .kobayashi. at 6:28 AM on September 18, 2010 [66 favorites]


"You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid, stupid!"
posted by Countess Elena at 6:37 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


Stupid videos have a long and controversial history here.
posted by caddis at 6:43 AM on September 18, 2010


i've thought about making this post myself, but ... well, you can see how it's received.

I think the tone of the post, as well as its inaccuracy*, contributed to the negative reception.

gum: if you don't like them, do as I do for 99% of solely-video posts, and don't click on them. But it's not like the Internet's gonna run out of pixel juice anytime soon; there's room for video posts as well as whatever it is you like better here on the blue-green grey.

* Marvel-characters-as-cats not actually being a video post, the documentary featuring Zevon et al being upwards of a dozen individual YouTube videos yet lumped in as a "SLYT," etc
posted by jtron at 6:48 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


even though it still amuses me

tbh I cannot envision a future wherein this fails to continue amusing me either, especially "Somebody has accurately pointed out something awful I said or did".
posted by elizardbits at 6:50 AM on September 18, 2010 [3 favorites]


I am offended by the acronym "slyts." It has a whiff of misogeny about it.
posted by CunningLinguist at 6:51 AM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]


You and your salacious wordplay.
posted by John Cohen at 6:57 AM on September 18, 2010




The S is for single.
posted by dirtdirt at 7:10 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


i've thought about making this post myself, but ... well, you can see how it's received.

It probably would have been received quite differently if this person who posted it wasn't being a raving asshole about the whole thing.
posted by jacquilynne at 7:14 AM on September 18, 2010


hahah ooooh my gosh i freakin love this place. THERE ARE TOO MANY MONKEY POOP VIDEOS WAHHH.

gum. the best and probably easiest way to make changes here is to set a great example. make a post that fucking rules. this advice can be extrapolated and applied to real life too.
posted by pwally at 7:15 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


The S is for single.

But the extra S is for extra harassment.

And that last B is a typo.
posted by Horace Rumpole at 7:18 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


Recreational Humor, what is there to discuss?
posted by furiousxgeorge at 7:23 AM on September 18, 2010


I sometimes thing there's too many Youtube posts, as well. So, I...

(wait for it)

don't make any youtube posts.

And if a monkey riding a pig doesn't make you all kinds of happy, maybe you need to go to the doctor and see if you still have a heart.
posted by Devils Rancher at 7:25 AM on September 18, 2010


Try the decaf.
posted by nola at 7:28 AM on September 18, 2010


[ ] I miss all the recipes that used to be posted in MetaTalk

Man, it's so true. I miss them terribly! I understand the reasoning for not having them so much but, well... could we have recipefilter AND stupidvideofilter AND sexysinglesfilter? Oh, and while we're at it, a subsite entirely devoted to arguing about whether other people's arguments are good or bad. Wait, no, we've got that. But the recipes. Their absence is like a hole in my cholesterol-laden heart.
posted by Mizu at 7:31 AM on September 18, 2010


could we have recipefilter

Yeah, it's called AskMe.
posted by John Cohen at 7:33 AM on September 18, 2010


Since YT tends to cause my computer to lock up and show me the perpetual spinning color death wheel, here's what I do when confronted with YT links: I do not open them. Perhaps I'm missing out on something really worthwhile/funny/inspiring/sad/whatever. Perhaps I'm not missing anything.

Point is, it's up to me. AND I also understand that since there is more than one person here on Metafilter besides me, that there will be different opinions of what is worthwhile/funny/inspiring/sad/whatever.

Variety makes the world a worthwhile/funny...etc. place. Just embrace it, man.
posted by sundrop at 7:33 AM on September 18, 2010


I was pretty surprised that the monkey riding a pig post wasn't deleted, they've ditched better posts than that.
posted by octothorpe at 7:37 AM on September 18, 2010


Silly stuff has always been part of the mix here. Silly videos have been a part of the mix for as long as it's been possible to host video online. (The big difference between today and 2001 is we're no longer having a side discussion in every other video post about just how many suckholes, exactly, Real Player sucks, etc. Due credit to Youtube and Vimeo et al on that front.)

So, no, there's not a problem with videos being a part of the mix of posts. Variety is arguably job one—sprawling essay posts nestled in with monkeys on pigs, serious political discussions sharing space with tenacious musical debates, art and science and philosophy and slapstick all jumbled together in the weird and varied waterfall of text that is the front page.

If you do not like some of that content, skip by it. There is always more. If you feel a specific post is problematic, flag it so that we know you feel that way.

gum, vague-but-insistent late-night metatalk posts pretty much never go anywhere useful. If you want to come back to this and give it another shot this morning with maybe some more detail and pragmatism, I'm happy to try and talk about it some, but this really feels more like you venting on a Friday night than it does like an attempt to have any sort of serious policy discussion.
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:38 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


Gum really just needs someone to hold them while they cry. It'll be OK, gum. It's all going to be OK.
posted by klangklangston at 8:01 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


Metafilter: sprawling essay posts nestled in with monkeys on pigs
posted by John Cohen at 8:03 AM on September 18, 2010


All your gum base are belong to us.

(it never gets old and fu to anyone who disagrees with me)
posted by iconomy at 8:10 AM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]


Oh it's all so tedious. Don't click on things you don't like. Don't think about things other people are doing that you don't like. Denial is your friend. Deny that they exist by sensible interpretation of post titles and if you get fooled, the back arrow is your friend! You don't even have to read the comments if you'd rather not, because undoubtedly they'd be full of people laughing at stupid shit and og knows, who needs more of that?

Seriously, it's so easy to avoid stuff that bothers you, and if the fact that reading people express their enjoyment of what you classify as 'stupid shit' grates you so much, back away from the thread.

Dip judiciously from the well would be my advice.
posted by h00py at 8:15 AM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]


Worst. Callout. Ever.
posted by Aquaman at 8:19 AM on September 18, 2010


Gum, I'm sorry my monkey-riding-a-pig post got you so riled up last night after you'd had a few adult beverages.

On the other hand, a monkey riding a pig! Awesome! And the song-- so catchy!

In conclusion, here's my suggestion:

If, in the cold, sober, hungover light of Saturday morning, when you read through your multiple comments and your 37 uses of the word "stupid," you start to feel a little foolish about your Friday night MeTa binge, just go ahead and watch this. You'll smile, and maybe feel a little less foolish, and hopefully a little less crabby, too.
posted by dersins at 8:20 AM on September 18, 2010


More like: most common callout. ever.
posted by caddis at 8:20 AM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]


Flag it and move on. Next!
posted by Gin and Comics at 8:38 AM on September 18, 2010


Baby monkey might have been but a single link, but contained in the thread were many other equally cromulent awesome links. A treasure trove of cuteness, that post.
posted by sonika at 8:41 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


If the baby monkey on a pig is wrong, I don't want to be right.
posted by ish__ at 9:00 AM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]


I don't mind the single-link YouTube posts. What I hate is all the "SLYT" cluttering the front page, which is is probably mystifying to many people, and seems like an apology to me, like you know it's something many people aren't going to like and you're posting it anyway. Worse are the outright apologies, such as the current "Yes, it's SLYT, but it's a really good SLYT, so I beg forgiveness."

My opinion is that if you feel like you have to apologize for a post, you shouldn't make it. It's like saying "no offense" before saying something offensive. If, after contemplation, you're convinced you should still post your baby monkey video or whatever it is, just do so proudly and without reserve.
posted by grouse at 9:12 AM on September 18, 2010 [15 favorites]


I've learned from MetaFilter that if one finds oneself screaming at a large and ill-defined group of people that they are all educated stupid, it may be worthwhile for one to check the functioning status of one's own timecube, as it may no longer be operating in all relevant dimensions.
posted by lazaruslong at 9:24 AM on September 18, 2010 [15 favorites]


I AM CALLING OUT GROUSE FOR BEING RIGHT
posted by jtron at 9:26 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


Worst. Callout. Ever.

I know a worse one.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 9:32 AM on September 18, 2010 [5 favorites]


Remember that time we called you out for turning 40? That was awesome.
posted by Mister_A at 9:50 AM on September 18, 2010


I know a worse one.

It happened back before you were a member. You've probably never heard of it.
posted by Gator at 9:51 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


NO YOU
posted by jquinby at 9:52 AM on September 18, 2010


Well, in my defence, my single-link video posts are educated stupid.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 9:55 AM on September 18, 2010


SLYT "Female ninja magic: Vagina bubbles from Hell!" link. NSFW / Anything.

Scary bubbles for sure!
posted by buzzman at 10:01 AM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]


Gum, you talking about me???? 'cuz about half my fpps are slyt posts. You talking to me?
posted by HuronBob at 10:23 AM on September 18, 2010


A post should contain what is absolutely necessary.

No more and no less.
posted by mazola at 10:32 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


Gum: perhaps this will make you feel better.
posted by mazola at 10:34 AM on September 18, 2010


Cheer up soon, gum.
posted by keli at 10:47 AM on September 18, 2010


It happened back before you were a member. You've probably never heard of it.

So dish already!
posted by Aquaman at 11:09 AM on September 18, 2010


Okay, can someone explain why this comment by empath got so many favorites? It went completely over my head.
posted by yaymukund at 11:46 AM on September 18, 2010


If I get Vagina bubbles from Hell as the result of a sacrifice does it unlock the vaginal weapons category and how does it compare to a +2 Magicbane for a chaotic elvish wizard?
posted by vapidave at 11:48 AM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


Could vagina bubbles from hell be anything other than Japanese? No, I do not think that possible.
posted by Artw at 11:53 AM on September 18, 2010


It's very odd to me that people who don't like things want to subsume their own agency to some authority they think is in charge. It's nearly as odd that people show up in threads and declare that they don't want to read the six pages of article that the post links to, but someone please summarize the entire thing so that they can take part in the conversation. Neither type of person is willing to take responsibility for their reaction to an FPP, they just want to be spoon-fed the bits they think they like. Why would anyone willingly want to give the impression of helplessness? I struggle with understanding this point of view.


The Jim Henson post was a thing of beauty. It would not have been better in text form, or with supporting links. That moving image spoke for itself.
posted by oneirodynia at 11:57 AM on September 18, 2010


Okay, can someone explain why this comment by empath got so many favorites? It went completely over my head.

It's someone wearing a top hat and monocle, all fancy-like.
posted by dead cousin ted at 12:30 PM on September 18, 2010


someone wearing a top hat and monocle

Right on!
posted by dersins at 12:33 PM on September 18, 2010


More like snooty-disapprove-y-like. Like, you know.
posted by Gator at 12:33 PM on September 18, 2010


dead cousin ted: "It's someone wearing a top hat and monocle, all fancy-like"

And the monocle is falling off because of shock..
posted by Memo at 12:52 PM on September 18, 2010


churl - the links to my GM script still work, but my DNS is all messed up at the moment which is probably why it doesn't work for you. Here it is by IP:

Remove posts with only one link that goes to youtube.com.

I am unsure if it still actually works and don't care enough to test it, but I wager it probably does.

Pass the bourbon.
posted by cj_ at 1:49 PM on September 18, 2010


stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, YouTube, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, YouTube, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, YouTube, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, YouTube, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, YouTube, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, YouTube, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, YouTube,

Oh, that's definitely going in the musical!
posted by rocket88 at 1:56 PM on September 18, 2010


I would just like to say that my stupid post also had exactly eighteen stupid videos in it.
posted by Evilspork at 2:20 PM on September 18, 2010


I know a worse one.

use your words!
posted by mendel at 2:33 PM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]


Oh, that's definitely going in the musical!

Apologies to Bowie and Lennon:

Snark, (snark) makes a man take things to Metatalk
Snark, (snark) lets him flame, makes him squawk
Snark, (snark) puts you there where popcorn's hawked
Snark (snark)

Snark, times are dark, but it's just a lark
Metafilter hasn't jumped the shark (shark)
Snark (snark)

Snark, (snark) what you flag is in the queue
Snark, (snark) which the mods might one day review
Snark, (snark) and decide what's now taboo
Snark (snark)

Snark, "Nein! You're all swine!" is just his line
The links are grime, it drives him to, slime
Snark (snark)

Could it be the best, could it be?
Really be, really, babe?
Could it be, my babe, could it, babe?
Could it, babe? Could it, babe?

Is it any wonder you flagged it first?
Snark, snark, snark, snark
Is it any wonder you are too cool for school
Snark (snark)

Snark, bully for you, chilly for me
Got to name and shame (shame)
(Snark)

Snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark,
snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark,
Snark
What's your game?

Feeling so gay, feeling gay
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 2:39 PM on September 18, 2010 [9 favorites]


use your words!

Spitting is a dirty habit!
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 3:15 PM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


Flag It And Move On? How can anybody move on now with this awful wad of gum on our shoes?
posted by oneswellfoop at 4:42 PM on September 18, 2010


I bought Blue Raspberry flavored FourLoko tonight. The color of the can (and the drink, come to think of it) exactly matched the polish on the cashiers nails. That was cool.

Sadly, I don't have any video for YouTube. I hope you can forgive me.
posted by jonmc at 5:51 PM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]


gum, by gum

Superb.
posted by doublehappy at 5:57 PM on September 18, 2010


In sum: "Excuse me, but mefi isn't entertaining me in precisely the way I want to be entertained. Obviously this egregious wrong must be immediately righted. Try harder guys."

Oi, you newbies, honestly! (everyone who joined after me is obviously still a newbie, natch.)
posted by Hildegarde at 5:59 PM on September 18, 2010


gum, i am disappoint
posted by rhizome at 6:08 PM on September 18, 2010 [3 favorites]


Double Vader all the way.
posted by Burhanistan at 6:39 PM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]


SYLT? Whut?
posted by davejay at 9:17 PM on September 18, 2010


Gum

I can understand your frustration, I am on a slow connection and dont tolerate youtube well, but anymore it seems to be a nice way to swing people hip to things that arent available elsewhere.

Agreed,, I sort of roll my eyes at the latest cute animal doing something cute stuff, but if I do a YT intensive post, I at least try to make it worthwhile to the 1 or 100 folks who will look at a link or two, decide if it is there cup of tea, and engage or not.

Here's one example of something I got busy with the YT on. Way off base for mych of the younger audience, much less international members, but something that is at least representative, offers some choices as to how deep you want to wade. It;s all there if you want it, and one click away of you don't.

That said, I just posted a SLYT to the blue I hope makes you smile, you will pass on, etc.

This is too great a community to get your shorts in a knot.
posted by timsteil at 9:25 PM on September 18, 2010


My opinion is that if you feel like you have to apologize for a post, you shouldn't make it.

This is why I always make sure I am robustly proud of even my worst posts. A good mother loves even her ugly babies.
posted by hermitosis at 2:28 PM on September 19, 2010 [2 favorites]


C'mon, a guy going by "Oneswellfoop" has no room to rag someone else about choosing their screen name.
posted by klangklangston at 4:03 PM on September 19, 2010


I'm just here to congratulate myself on not posting a YouTube link to the video to Warren Zevon's "Leave My Monkey Alone".

Even though it was mostly because the rest of the song wouldn't have worked as well for this thread as the title.
posted by dilettante at 6:12 PM on September 19, 2010


So have we fixed MegaFiller already or what?

MegaFiller!
MegaFiller!
Riding backwards on the net
MegaFiller!
posted by Mister_A at 6:55 AM on September 20, 2010 [1 favorite]


It's a phase. We're 11, we go through phases. It'll pass.
posted by fiercecupcake at 10:37 AM on September 20, 2010


Okay, can someone explain why this comment by empath got so many favorites? It went completely over my head.

It should look a little like this, vaguely akin to this. Vaguely.
posted by filthy light thief at 11:45 AM on September 20, 2010


Yes, I'm viewing the site in "professional white," what of it?
posted by filthy light thief at 11:45 AM on September 20, 2010


This is stupid.
posted by Elmore at 3:39 PM on September 21, 2010


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