LOTR, of course April 11, 2011 6:26 AM Subscribe
So...why wasn't this deleted as chatfilter?
Not throwing stones-I'm pretty sympathetic to chatfilter-y questions. But it seemed pretty clearly a chatty question, which was pointed out a half dozen times in the thread itself.
Just curious.
Not throwing stones-I'm pretty sympathetic to chatfilter-y questions. But it seemed pretty clearly a chatty question, which was pointed out a half dozen times in the thread itself.
Just curious.
Hey! I just came here to post the exact same question. If that's not textbook chatfilter, I don't know what is.
posted by Forktine at 6:30 AM on April 11, 2011
posted by Forktine at 6:30 AM on April 11, 2011
Mods are asleep, presumably.
posted by EndsOfInvention at 6:33 AM on April 11, 2011
posted by EndsOfInvention at 6:33 AM on April 11, 2011
So...why wasn't this deleted as chatfilter?...
Yet? Possibly because it was posted during Mods Are Sleeping time, and people were busier answering it than flagging it?
posted by rtha at 6:33 AM on April 11, 2011
Yet? Possibly because it was posted during Mods Are Sleeping time, and people were busier answering it than flagging it?
posted by rtha at 6:33 AM on April 11, 2011
From the explanation of "chatfilter" in the FAQ:
- Questions where everyone's answer is equally valid along the lines of "What's your favorite X?". Maybe there is a reason you want to know? Super, just put it in your question.posted by John Cohen at 6:34 AM on April 11, 2011
Possibly because it was posted during Mods Are Sleeping time, and people were busier answering it than flagging it?
Is there a Mods Are Sleeping time when one of the mods lives in the UK?
I flagged it. Based on this MeTa, I'm guessing a lot of people have flagged it.
posted by John Cohen at 6:35 AM on April 11, 2011
Is there a Mods Are Sleeping time when one of the mods lives in the UK?
I flagged it. Based on this MeTa, I'm guessing a lot of people have flagged it.
posted by John Cohen at 6:35 AM on April 11, 2011
Flagged (and answered).
posted by headnsouth at 6:36 AM on April 11, 2011
posted by headnsouth at 6:36 AM on April 11, 2011
If that's not textbook chatfilter, I don't know what is.
I'd call it novel chatfilter, myself.
posted by MonkeyToes at 6:39 AM on April 11, 2011 [22 favorites]
I'd call it novel chatfilter, myself.
posted by MonkeyToes at 6:39 AM on April 11, 2011 [22 favorites]
Well, vacapinta is a part-time mod. It's possible he's been doing his Actual Job and didn't see the flags, and it's possible that not many flags started going up until the East Coast mefites got to work and saw it. It's pretty likely that it isn't staying up because the rules on what's chatfilter suddenly changed.
posted by rtha at 6:39 AM on April 11, 2011
posted by rtha at 6:39 AM on April 11, 2011
If the OP had included, "because I want one-book suggestions from everyone here to fill my lonely days", would that have been enough?
Not trying to be snarky, just a curious noob.
posted by Glinn at 6:50 AM on April 11, 2011
Not trying to be snarky, just a curious noob.
posted by Glinn at 6:50 AM on April 11, 2011
Already gone. RatFilter. (I still wanted to post my favorite wacky little German fally-aparty pocketbook novels, but ach)
posted by Namlit at 6:55 AM on April 11, 2011
posted by Namlit at 6:55 AM on April 11, 2011
Yeah, vacapinta is explicitly Around When He Can Be, not so much On The Clock, so he checks in when he can but he's not glued to the site and some days he may not have a chance to check in at all. Something not deleted at 4am is accordingly not as much of a weird thing as would be something not deleted in the middle of the US workday. It's great that he can nix some stuff, when he can, the overall rate of nighttime weirdness is way down since he started helping out, but there will still be the occasional Thing That Occurs.
Anyway, it was chatty chatty chatfilter, it had a ton of flags, people answered it anyway because chatfilter is chatty and people like to chat, and now I'm awake and my tea is steeping.
posted by cortex (staff) at 6:57 AM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
Anyway, it was chatty chatty chatfilter, it had a ton of flags, people answered it anyway because chatfilter is chatty and people like to chat, and now I'm awake and my tea is steeping.
posted by cortex (staff) at 6:57 AM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
So, in summary, the flowchart for the "do I start a metatalk asking why something that would normally be deleted hasn't been deleted?" scenario would have a little diamond box on it that says "is it before, like, 1500 GMT or so?" and the "YES" arrow points to "wait until the mods are awake at least" and points back to the same diamond again and the "NO" arrow points to whatever the next step is.
I kind of want to make a flowchart now.
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:01 AM on April 11, 2011 [18 favorites]
I kind of want to make a flowchart now.
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:01 AM on April 11, 2011 [18 favorites]
Glinn: As far as I'm concerned, that would not have saved it. Mostly because "because I want one-book suggestions from everyone here to fill my lonely days" doesn't give enough parameters. One criteria for determining if a question is chatfilter is "are all answers equally correct". When you're dealing with non-realtionships questions, this is a useful criteria. Like all answers to "what's your favorite ice cream?" are equally correct because each person's favorite (even if it's "sherbert" which is not technically ice cream) is, in fact, each person's favorite.
"What's a good book about alternate histories that features a murder?" has fewer correct answers than "What's a good mystery book?" which has fewer correct answers than "What's a good book?" which has fewer answers than "What books do you reread?" Those questions are, in my opinion: Not Chatfilter, Probably Chatfilter, Deleteable Chatfilter, Unquestionably Chatfilter.
But we're all assholes with opinions about what is deletable chatfilter. I try to flag and not care, but sometimes I flag and complain to the person standing next to me. Who (usually) isn't on Metafilter, and really doesn't care.
posted by crush-onastick at 7:03 AM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
"What's a good book about alternate histories that features a murder?" has fewer correct answers than "What's a good mystery book?" which has fewer correct answers than "What's a good book?" which has fewer answers than "What books do you reread?" Those questions are, in my opinion: Not Chatfilter, Probably Chatfilter, Deleteable Chatfilter, Unquestionably Chatfilter.
But we're all assholes with opinions about what is deletable chatfilter. I try to flag and not care, but sometimes I flag and complain to the person standing next to me. Who (usually) isn't on Metafilter, and really doesn't care.
posted by crush-onastick at 7:03 AM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
Like all answers to "what's your favorite ice cream?" are equally correct because each person's favorite ...
Flagged for STUPIDITY. The only CORRECT answer is chocolate.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 7:04 AM on April 11, 2011 [2 favorites]
Flagged for STUPIDITY. The only CORRECT answer is chocolate.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 7:04 AM on April 11, 2011 [2 favorites]
cortex: "So, in summary, the flowchart for the "do I start a metatalk asking why something that would normally be deleted hasn't been deleted?" scenario would have a little diamond box on it that says "is it before, like, 1500 GMT or so?" and the "YES" arrow points to "wait until the mods are awake at least" and points back to the same diamond again and the "NO" arrow points to whatever the next step is."
Sorry, cortex.
posted by Chrysostom at 7:06 AM on April 11, 2011
Sorry, cortex.
posted by Chrysostom at 7:06 AM on April 11, 2011
Piffle. The one true answer is Dulce de Leche. Other acceptable answers include Mint Chocolate Chip, Peanut Butter Cup, and Moose Tracks. I scoff at your chocolate.
Besides, vanilla is better than chocolate any day.
What? The Meta didn't seem contentious enough. Now, having lit the match, it's bedtime on my side of the world, where we have such abominations as Azuki bean ice cream, green tea ice cream, milk (?!) flavored ice cream, and guh, wasabi flavored soft serve...
posted by Ghidorah at 7:11 AM on April 11, 2011
Besides, vanilla is better than chocolate any day.
What? The Meta didn't seem contentious enough. Now, having lit the match, it's bedtime on my side of the world, where we have such abominations as Azuki bean ice cream, green tea ice cream, milk (?!) flavored ice cream, and guh, wasabi flavored soft serve...
posted by Ghidorah at 7:11 AM on April 11, 2011
the BEST ice cream is a chocolate malted made with Guinness-vanilla ice cream. and NOT Amy's Ice Cream Guinness ice cream, which tastes like you're licking a drunk cown which has been rolled in sugar, but Bobtail Guinness ice cream, which tastes like ice cream, made of delicious delicious Guinness. but my FAVORITE ice cream is vanilla, with chocolate-covered almonds in it. Except when it's vanilla, with ribbons of caramel in it. Or when it's vanilla, with real strawberries frozen in it.
posted by crush-onastick at 7:19 AM on April 11, 2011
posted by crush-onastick at 7:19 AM on April 11, 2011
1. Cinnamon (from the Plush Horse in Palos Heights, IL)
2. Dulce de Leche
3. Vanilla
4. Strawberry, with bits of strawberries in it
...
99. Chocolate
100. Neapolitan
This is incontrovertible.
posted by Terminal Verbosity at 7:20 AM on April 11, 2011
2. Dulce de Leche
3. Vanilla
4. Strawberry, with bits of strawberries in it
...
99. Chocolate
100. Neapolitan
This is incontrovertible.
posted by Terminal Verbosity at 7:20 AM on April 11, 2011
You haven't tasted Coconut from the Split Banana in Staunton.
posted by Namlit at 7:21 AM on April 11, 2011
posted by Namlit at 7:21 AM on April 11, 2011
[...] where we have such abominations as Azuki bean ice cream, green tea ice cream, milk (?!) flavored ice cream, and guh, wasabi flavored soft serve...
I will tolerate NO apsersions cast upon Azuki bean ice cream or green tea ice cream. Flagged with prejudice.
posted by likeso at 7:21 AM on April 11, 2011
I will tolerate NO apsersions cast upon Azuki bean ice cream or green tea ice cream. Flagged with prejudice.
posted by likeso at 7:21 AM on April 11, 2011
I remember B&J's Festivus.
It was incredible.
Turkey Hill's CCD is the best CCD because they use molasses and brown sugar flavored ice cream.
posted by jgirl at 7:25 AM on April 11, 2011
It was incredible.
Turkey Hill's CCD is the best CCD because they use molasses and brown sugar flavored ice cream.
posted by jgirl at 7:25 AM on April 11, 2011
So is this where we answer the question now that we can't answer it in the original thread? Because I've read Dune about eight times.
As far as ice cream, my current favorite is strawberry (and I endorse TV's requirement that it have actual bits of strawberries in it) but it varies over time.
Ben and Jerry's used to have a "Reverse Chocolate Chunk" that I loved—chocolate ice cream with white chocolate chunks—but it's been discontinued. I've tried to recreate it at mix-in type places, but it's not the same.
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 7:26 AM on April 11, 2011
As far as ice cream, my current favorite is strawberry (and I endorse TV's requirement that it have actual bits of strawberries in it) but it varies over time.
Ben and Jerry's used to have a "Reverse Chocolate Chunk" that I loved—chocolate ice cream with white chocolate chunks—but it's been discontinued. I've tried to recreate it at mix-in type places, but it's not the same.
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 7:26 AM on April 11, 2011
Vanilla is the best ice cream. Chocolate ice cream is only good if you make it by starting with vanilla ice cream and mixing in chocolate syrup. Same thing for milkshakes.
posted by John Cohen at 7:31 AM on April 11, 2011
posted by John Cohen at 7:31 AM on April 11, 2011
Sorry, cortex.
Nah, it's no biggie. I actually do kind of want to make a flowchart, it'd be fun.
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:31 AM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
Nah, it's no biggie. I actually do kind of want to make a flowchart, it'd be fun.
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:31 AM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
Thank you crush-onastick, makes sense.
Also, coffee ice cream plus hot fudge. Forever.
posted by Glinn at 7:38 AM on April 11, 2011
Also, coffee ice cream plus hot fudge. Forever.
posted by Glinn at 7:38 AM on April 11, 2011
For chart..
Have you flagged it?
> No > Then flag it.
> Yes > Likelihood others have answered yes is greater than 50% > YES > Chill out
posted by Hey, Zeus! at 7:42 AM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
Have you flagged it?
> No > Then flag it.
> Yes > Likelihood others have answered yes is greater than 50% > YES > Chill out
posted by Hey, Zeus! at 7:42 AM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
Also acceptable: French vanilla with a drizzling of maple syrup.
posted by Ghidorah at 7:51 AM on April 11, 2011
posted by Ghidorah at 7:51 AM on April 11, 2011
jgirl, Turkey Hill did a "Death by Chocolate" many years back...best damn chocolate ice cream I've ever had. Also, Turkey Hill wind turbines, FTW!
posted by MonkeyToes at 7:53 AM on April 11, 2011
posted by MonkeyToes at 7:53 AM on April 11, 2011
crush-onastick, if you are ever in DC you have to get Guinness ice cream at the Jamaican ice cream shop on Georgia Avenue. Yes I know, Jamaican ≠ Guinness, but trust me.
The best ice cream in the world is homemade vanilla (cream, milk, sugar, vanilla) with crushed Thin Mints on top. In the summer, in a hammock, after you just finished mowing the lawn.
posted by headnsouth at 7:55 AM on April 11, 2011
The best ice cream in the world is homemade vanilla (cream, milk, sugar, vanilla) with crushed Thin Mints on top. In the summer, in a hammock, after you just finished mowing the lawn.
posted by headnsouth at 7:55 AM on April 11, 2011
ooo! thanks headnsouth! I am often in DC (or nearby) and I will have to try it.
posted by crush-onastick at 7:57 AM on April 11, 2011
posted by crush-onastick at 7:57 AM on April 11, 2011
Nah, it's no biggie. I actually do kind of want to make a flowchart, it'd be fun.
Don't you have real work to do?
posted by cjorgensen at 8:05 AM on April 11, 2011
Don't you have real work to do?
posted by cjorgensen at 8:05 AM on April 11, 2011
Ghidorah, that sounds remarkably like that B&J (Full Vermonty) I was talking about... but you have to add pecans. Mandatory.
posted by likeso at 8:08 AM on April 11, 2011
posted by likeso at 8:08 AM on April 11, 2011
Is there a Mods Are Sleeping time when one of the mods lives in the UK?
It's weird to explain but vacapinta's sort of a sometimes-mod. That is, he helps out and checks in a few times but he doesn't have a shift, he's not on payroll and he has a Real Life and Other Job much more than any of us do. So we're thrilled he helps out here but he gets only credit and no blame.
I have a lady in my computer class whose husband works at Ben & Jerry's. She came in to say thank you last week with seven pints of the stuff [Late Night Snack, Cinnamon Bun, Everything but the..., Mint Chip, Chubby Hubby (2) and Oatmeal Chunk). I had to pay the janitor a pint to get the others out of the freezer when work was over. When I bought my house in Vermont it was from the then-B&J's webmaster, in 1997. I know ice cream. And I still miss Cool Britannia.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 8:10 AM on April 11, 2011 [3 favorites]
It's weird to explain but vacapinta's sort of a sometimes-mod. That is, he helps out and checks in a few times but he doesn't have a shift, he's not on payroll and he has a Real Life and Other Job much more than any of us do. So we're thrilled he helps out here but he gets only credit and no blame.
I have a lady in my computer class whose husband works at Ben & Jerry's. She came in to say thank you last week with seven pints of the stuff [Late Night Snack, Cinnamon Bun, Everything but the..., Mint Chip, Chubby Hubby (2) and Oatmeal Chunk). I had to pay the janitor a pint to get the others out of the freezer when work was over. When I bought my house in Vermont it was from the then-B&J's webmaster, in 1997. I know ice cream. And I still miss Cool Britannia.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 8:10 AM on April 11, 2011 [3 favorites]
Pralines and Dick.
posted by The Whelk at 8:14 AM on April 11, 2011 [9 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 8:14 AM on April 11, 2011 [9 favorites]
[...] seven pints of the stuff [Late Night Snack, Cinnamon Bun, Everything but the..., Mint Chip, Chubby Hubby (2) and Oatmeal Chunk). [...] And I still miss Cool Britannia.
Having now drooled all over the keyboard, I am off to the kitchen to fetch a wet rag. Yes, just a rag. That's my story.
posted by likeso at 8:20 AM on April 11, 2011
Having now drooled all over the keyboard, I am off to the kitchen to fetch a wet rag. Yes, just a rag. That's my story.
posted by likeso at 8:20 AM on April 11, 2011
And I still miss Cool Britannia.
Oh god. Oh god. Cool Britannia. I have never agreed with you more. I almost forgot that it had actually existed. It's existence had become for me like the fleeting glimpse you saw of the beautiful girl on the subway, whose gaze met yours for an instant and then vanished, leaving a hole in your soul, unrepairable.
posted by ColdChef at 8:21 AM on April 11, 2011 [2 favorites]
Oh god. Oh god. Cool Britannia. I have never agreed with you more. I almost forgot that it had actually existed. It's existence had become for me like the fleeting glimpse you saw of the beautiful girl on the subway, whose gaze met yours for an instant and then vanished, leaving a hole in your soul, unrepairable.
posted by ColdChef at 8:21 AM on April 11, 2011 [2 favorites]
This appeared at about noon my time. I went to lunch and then immediately had some errands to run and didn't get a chance to check metafilter. Sorry about that. I would have deleted it had I seen it.
posted by vacapinta at 8:33 AM on April 11, 2011
posted by vacapinta at 8:33 AM on April 11, 2011
vacapinta, looks like we all are now just desperate to hear about your ice cream preferences.
posted by likeso at 8:36 AM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by likeso at 8:36 AM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
It took me a couple of tries to try to figure out why cortex was awake but had unconscious tea.
posted by galadriel at 8:40 AM on April 11, 2011
posted by galadriel at 8:40 AM on April 11, 2011
/me waits patiently for flowchart.
I turns out this is kind of hard! And also doesn't really fit on one sheet of paper. And what do you use for a decision node when you have more than like three branches? A diamond has only so many points! Do you just upgrade polygons?
posted by cortex (staff) at 8:43 AM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
I turns out this is kind of hard! And also doesn't really fit on one sheet of paper. And what do you use for a decision node when you have more than like three branches? A diamond has only so many points! Do you just upgrade polygons?
posted by cortex (staff) at 8:43 AM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
vacapinta, looks like we all are now just desperate to hear about your ice cream preferences.
I grew up with Thrifty ice cream and so always have a fondness for:
1) Black Cherry
2) Pistachio Nut
3) Rocky Road
posted by vacapinta at 8:44 AM on April 11, 2011
I grew up with Thrifty ice cream and so always have a fondness for:
1) Black Cherry
2) Pistachio Nut
3) Rocky Road
posted by vacapinta at 8:44 AM on April 11, 2011
MMMMmmph! Shoot, Burhanistan, now I need another "wet rag".
posted by likeso at 8:46 AM on April 11, 2011
posted by likeso at 8:46 AM on April 11, 2011
If you're not making your own ice cream with fresh, quality ingredients then you're basically eating curdled sewer rat milk.
If the salted caramel icecream they sell at the Scoop cart on Killingsworth and Greeley is curdled sewer rat milk, I envy baby sewer rats.
posted by cortex (staff) at 8:47 AM on April 11, 2011 [6 favorites]
If the salted caramel icecream they sell at the Scoop cart on Killingsworth and Greeley is curdled sewer rat milk, I envy baby sewer rats.
posted by cortex (staff) at 8:47 AM on April 11, 2011 [6 favorites]
If the salted caramel icecream they sell at the Scoop cart on Killingsworth and Greeley is curdled sewer rat milk, I envy baby sewer rats.
Damn you, cortex. Now I have to stop at Scoop on my way home.
posted by That's Numberwang! at 9:06 AM on April 11, 2011
Damn you, cortex. Now I have to stop at Scoop on my way home.
posted by That's Numberwang! at 9:06 AM on April 11, 2011
Philistines. Bacio gelato, with the little bits of hazelnut. It is the reason man was put on this planet.
posted by CunningLinguist at 9:08 AM on April 11, 2011
posted by CunningLinguist at 9:08 AM on April 11, 2011
Pick up an extra pint and swing by St. Johns, I'm all out.
posted by cortex (staff) at 9:13 AM on April 11, 2011
posted by cortex (staff) at 9:13 AM on April 11, 2011
Yes I know, Jamaican ≠ Guinness, but trust me.
They do make Guinness in Jamaica. Rum and raisin, please.
posted by holgate at 9:13 AM on April 11, 2011
They do make Guinness in Jamaica. Rum and raisin, please.
posted by holgate at 9:13 AM on April 11, 2011
also, Metafilter: If the salted caramel icecream they sell at the Scoop cart on Killingsworth and Greeley is curdled sewer rat milk, I envy baby sewer rats.
posted by nevercalm at 9:17 AM on April 11, 2011
posted by nevercalm at 9:17 AM on April 11, 2011
Vacapinta, you're fired.
poasted by nevercalm
Shouldn't you be out working on your presidential bid and making photocopies of your birth certificate?
posted by schmod at 9:25 AM on April 11, 2011
poasted by nevercalm
Shouldn't you be out working on your presidential bid and making photocopies of your birth certificate?
posted by schmod at 9:25 AM on April 11, 2011
Londoners (er, the London in England) should try Chin Chin Labs in Camden Lock market for their indulgent ice-cream needs. Made fresh in front of you using liquid nitrogen (faster freezing yeilds smaller ice crystals and so smoother ice-cream), they have chocolate, vanilla and a flavour of the week, plus a load of home-made toppings. This weekend I had "burnt butter caramel" ice cream with caremilised prezel chunks and a raspberry compote/sauce on top.
The ice-cream there is amazing. Try it.
posted by metaBugs at 9:36 AM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
The ice-cream there is amazing. Try it.
posted by metaBugs at 9:36 AM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
If we're talking about gelato though, which is superior to ice cream..
I'll take Cioccolato Fondente and Nocciola
posted by vacapinta at 9:37 AM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
I'll take Cioccolato Fondente and Nocciola
posted by vacapinta at 9:37 AM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
Shouldn't it be okay for an occasional imperfect question to slip through? The pileon of flagging and questioning about an innocuous chatfilter post seems to edge into "Neener, neener, I'm telling the mods" territory. I don't think that's Chrysostom's intent; I just like the occasional semi-legal question to have half a chance.
posted by theora55 at 9:54 AM on April 11, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by theora55 at 9:54 AM on April 11, 2011 [2 favorites]
Ardiril...that would be an awesome thing to post on MetaChat.
posted by Miko at 9:57 AM on April 11, 2011
posted by Miko at 9:57 AM on April 11, 2011
Well, it's not so much the innocuousness at issue as it is the textbook chattiness. Borderline stuff gets through now and then, not-really-even-borderline stuff once in a great while, and if people can be relatively cool about that bit of flexibility and circumstance and other people can be relatively cool about the fact that in general chatfilter is gonna get nixed, we're all good.
I don't think "neener neener" really comes into it in general; in some cases it might, sure, but mostly I feel like when someone comes to Metatalk with a "hey, this didn't happen like I expected" question it's just because they actually want to make sure they understand how the site works.
posted by cortex (staff) at 9:59 AM on April 11, 2011
I don't think "neener neener" really comes into it in general; in some cases it might, sure, but mostly I feel like when someone comes to Metatalk with a "hey, this didn't happen like I expected" question it's just because they actually want to make sure they understand how the site works.
posted by cortex (staff) at 9:59 AM on April 11, 2011
Shouldn't it be okay for an occasional imperfect question to slip through?
AskMe is pretty much made of imperfect questions. That said, when there's a question that looks like textbook "this is against the guidelines" we're totally fine with people asking about it here or via the contact form.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 10:11 AM on April 11, 2011
AskMe is pretty much made of imperfect questions. That said, when there's a question that looks like textbook "this is against the guidelines" we're totally fine with people asking about it here or via the contact form.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 10:11 AM on April 11, 2011
Also free cone day is tomorrow. I will probably be closer to a scoop shop where I'll be in Austin [yay TXLA] than I was in Vermont.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 10:23 AM on April 11, 2011
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 10:23 AM on April 11, 2011
cortex: "I actually do kind of want to make a flowchart, it'd be fun."
~ soon ~
cortex has posted http://dohcharts.com to projects.metafilter.com.
posted by boo_radley at 10:40 AM on April 11, 2011
cortex has posted http://dohcharts.com to projects.metafilter.com.
posted by boo_radley at 10:40 AM on April 11, 2011
Heh. Actually, I'm still trying to figure out how to even turn my pencil rough into an actual decent image.
posted by cortex (staff) at 10:45 AM on April 11, 2011
posted by cortex (staff) at 10:45 AM on April 11, 2011
Also free cone day is tomorrow.
Now, that is neener neener. Classic. Textbook. Flagged.
posted by likeso at 10:56 AM on April 11, 2011
Now, that is neener neener. Classic. Textbook. Flagged.
posted by likeso at 10:56 AM on April 11, 2011
When I worked at Ashley's in New Haven my favored ice cream was one scoop each chocolate, coffee, and sweet cream, with chocolate syrup and malted milk powder.
Honestly, though, I'd cut off a pinky Yakuza style if it would make Edy's bring back Tart Honey frozen yogurt.
posted by jtron at 11:03 AM on April 11, 2011
Honestly, though, I'd cut off a pinky Yakuza style if it would make Edy's bring back Tart Honey frozen yogurt.
posted by jtron at 11:03 AM on April 11, 2011
cortex: regarding decision nodes with too many options, any choice can be refactored into a binary representation. The best known model for this is the game 20 questions.
posted by idiopath at 11:23 AM on April 11, 2011
posted by idiopath at 11:23 AM on April 11, 2011
*whispering*
Where is LovecraftinBrooklyn? Why hasn't he come by to see this thread that is all about him?
posted by likeso at 11:45 AM on April 11, 2011
Where is LovecraftinBrooklyn? Why hasn't he come by to see this thread that is all about him?
posted by likeso at 11:45 AM on April 11, 2011
If we're talking about gelato though, which is superior to ice cream..
Nutella, naturalmente.
posted by francesca too at 11:46 AM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
Nutella, naturalmente.
posted by francesca too at 11:46 AM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
Yet another shitty deletion (YASD). The information in the responses to that post is more valuable than 90% of the crap that gets posted.
posted by Crabby Appleton at 1:02 PM on April 11, 2011
posted by Crabby Appleton at 1:02 PM on April 11, 2011
Tart Honey frozen yogurt.
They have this at the Yogurtland near where I live, and it is waaaaaaaaaay too strong to be consumed on its own. It can be ok in small qunatities, thoroughly mixed with another flavor, but plain tart really does a better job in that role.
posted by owtytrof at 1:05 PM on April 11, 2011
They have this at the Yogurtland near where I live, and it is waaaaaaaaaay too strong to be consumed on its own. It can be ok in small qunatities, thoroughly mixed with another flavor, but plain tart really does a better job in that role.
posted by owtytrof at 1:05 PM on April 11, 2011
Crabby Appleton... you da crabbiest!
posted by owtytrof at 1:05 PM on April 11, 2011 [4 favorites]
posted by owtytrof at 1:05 PM on April 11, 2011 [4 favorites]
The information in the responses to that post is more valuable than 90% of the crap that gets posted.
You seem to consistently wander on to this site, get grumpy that it's not the way you want it to be, make a few drive-by complaints and leave again. If you'd like to change this pattern into offering something that sounded vaguely constructive, you might enjoy it better here.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 1:14 PM on April 11, 2011 [5 favorites]
You seem to consistently wander on to this site, get grumpy that it's not the way you want it to be, make a few drive-by complaints and leave again. If you'd like to change this pattern into offering something that sounded vaguely constructive, you might enjoy it better here.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 1:14 PM on April 11, 2011 [5 favorites]
cortex: Actually, I'm still trying to figure out how to even turn my pencil rough into an actual decent image.
Rough pencil sketches have a charm of their own.
Did you know about bubbl.us? I've used it for building mindmaps & diagrams. It's nifty.
posted by Pronoiac at 1:15 PM on April 11, 2011
Rough pencil sketches have a charm of their own.
Did you know about bubbl.us? I've used it for building mindmaps & diagrams. It's nifty.
posted by Pronoiac at 1:15 PM on April 11, 2011
I only recently discovered how great Crabby Appleton's debut record is. Seriously, it's a pop-psych-folk-rock treasure. Crank up the speakers for this or this Beatles-y gem or this psych-pop delight or this organ rocker. It's like someone snagged some of the cooler bits of Spirit, Badfinger, Procul Harum, etc. and rolled them into a pretty damn good band almost no one's heard before.
Anyway, if you like that early 70s smart rock thing, their debut is worth getting for sure.
posted by mediareport at 1:29 PM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
Anyway, if you like that early 70s smart rock thing, their debut is worth getting for sure.
posted by mediareport at 1:29 PM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
Actually, Jessamyn, I enjoy it just fine, as long as people aren't closing threads I want to read.
Just FYI, you're mischaracterizing my activity pattern just a bit. I blush to admit it, but I actually check the site almost every day. I comment less that I used to, though. And you'll notice that I refrained from telling owtytrof who's actually "da crabbiest!". You must admit, it requires a modicum of restraint to ignore a straight line like that. So maybe you'd be happier if you saw the glass as half full.
On preview: I am Tom Teriffic's nemesis, not a band.
posted by Crabby Appleton at 1:40 PM on April 11, 2011
Just FYI, you're mischaracterizing my activity pattern just a bit. I blush to admit it, but I actually check the site almost every day. I comment less that I used to, though. And you'll notice that I refrained from telling owtytrof who's actually "da crabbiest!". You must admit, it requires a modicum of restraint to ignore a straight line like that. So maybe you'd be happier if you saw the glass as half full.
On preview: I am Tom Teriffic's nemesis, not a band.
posted by Crabby Appleton at 1:40 PM on April 11, 2011
He was a villain on a Captain Kangaroo cartoon first, actually.
posted by mediareport at 1:42 PM on April 11, 2011
posted by mediareport at 1:42 PM on April 11, 2011
On non-preview...
posted by mediareport at 1:43 PM on April 11, 2011
posted by mediareport at 1:43 PM on April 11, 2011
So, it's a flowchart! And here's a direct link to the image if you don't want to deal with Flickr or whatever.
I'm sure there are use cases this doesn't address, and the whole thing's a bit silly, but it does cover an awful lot of what goes on (and sometimes goes wrong) here.
posted by cortex (staff) at 1:55 PM on April 11, 2011 [32 favorites]
I'm sure there are use cases this doesn't address, and the whole thing's a bit silly, but it does cover an awful lot of what goes on (and sometimes goes wrong) here.
posted by cortex (staff) at 1:55 PM on April 11, 2011 [32 favorites]
Ahh I see now why the issue with what to do n>3 decision nodes. You've allowed for fuzzy answers like, "Well Yeah... but", "Hrm, I guess not", and "No *kicks foot*".
posted by Babblesort at 2:08 PM on April 11, 2011
posted by Babblesort at 2:08 PM on April 11, 2011
...what to do with
posted by Babblesort at 2:08 PM on April 11, 2011
posted by Babblesort at 2:08 PM on April 11, 2011
All things come to those who wait. Thank you, cortex - I particularly like "A thing happened!" - LOL
posted by likeso at 2:10 PM on April 11, 2011
posted by likeso at 2:10 PM on April 11, 2011
Metafilter: A drama rocket to the moon!
I totally want that on a T-shirt.
posted by never used baby shoes at 2:21 PM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
I totally want that on a T-shirt.
posted by never used baby shoes at 2:21 PM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
I thought the MeTa was where we continued answering the deleted AskMe.
Dog Years.
I wish I knew IRL people I could actually talk to about books... Also, I have no ice cream at work
posted by Devils Rancher at 2:24 PM on April 11, 2011
Dog Years.
I wish I knew IRL people I could actually talk to about books... Also, I have no ice cream at work
posted by Devils Rancher at 2:24 PM on April 11, 2011
That flowchart is totally a thing!
posted by Terminal Verbosity at 2:26 PM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by Terminal Verbosity at 2:26 PM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
I love the little loop at "have you reviewed the FAQ and the guidelines?" ---> "Read them."
posted by cj_ at 2:35 PM on April 11, 2011
posted by cj_ at 2:35 PM on April 11, 2011
If I tell you why I want to know, the results will be skewed. A large enough sample answered pre-deletion to get what I want to know. Thanks to all involved. Have a nice day.
posted by Ardiril at 2:41 PM on April 11, 2011
posted by Ardiril at 2:41 PM on April 11, 2011
I'm sure there are use cases this doesn't address
Why? ==> I'm feeling lonely and pretty empty inside, yet I hate all humans. On top of that, Apple has released a new product.
posted by found missing at 3:05 PM on April 11, 2011
Why? ==> I'm feeling lonely and pretty empty inside, yet I hate all humans. On top of that, Apple has released a new product.
posted by found missing at 3:05 PM on April 11, 2011
What would be the ideal Metafilter Ice Cream Flavor?
Plate of Beans
posted by decathecting at 3:37 PM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
Plate of Beans
posted by decathecting at 3:37 PM on April 11, 2011 [1 favorite]
I'm sure there are use cases this doesn't address, and the whole thing's a bit silly, but it does cover an awful lot of what goes on (and sometimes goes wrong) here.
I admit I would have liked to have seen an 'IF butts THEN lol' stream.
posted by Jofus at 3:47 PM on April 11, 2011 [2 favorites]
I admit I would have liked to have seen an 'IF butts THEN lol' stream.
posted by Jofus at 3:47 PM on April 11, 2011 [2 favorites]
I think poster's sobriety level should be a factor in the decision tree somewhere.
posted by cj_ at 4:25 PM on April 11, 2011
posted by cj_ at 4:25 PM on April 11, 2011
Rum and raisin, please.
*drools*
Someone should totally post that flowchart to MetaTalk!
Oh, wait...
posted by dg at 4:28 PM on April 11, 2011
*drools*
Someone should totally post that flowchart to MetaTalk!
Oh, wait...
posted by dg at 4:28 PM on April 11, 2011
Why does stating a reason for the question make it any more valid?
***
Oh! LOL Sorry. ...The reason that I want to know is--
posted by herbplarfegan at 4:37 PM on April 11, 2011
***
Oh! LOL Sorry. ...The reason that I want to know is--
posted by herbplarfegan at 4:37 PM on April 11, 2011
Matt said I should post it as a new post and then embed the whole 1400px-wide image in the more inside but I told him I didn't think that was a very good plan.
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:38 PM on April 11, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:38 PM on April 11, 2011 [2 favorites]
The Whelk you owe me one Storm King Imperial Stout which i just spit all over my keyboard because of your comment, thankyouverymuch.
no, seriously, there's expensive stout everywhere... gah, what a mess!
posted by jammy at 5:00 PM on April 11, 2011
no, seriously, there's expensive stout everywhere... gah, what a mess!
posted by jammy at 5:00 PM on April 11, 2011
cortex: Matt's wrong, indeed. You should make a new post and embed an at-least 1900px-wide version of the flowchart. MY EYES, THEY STRAIN.
posted by Monday, stony Monday at 6:57 PM on April 11, 2011
posted by Monday, stony Monday at 6:57 PM on April 11, 2011
What would be the ideal Metafilter Ice Cream Flavor?
Plate of Beans
Not taters?
The flowchart made my day. It's awesome, and you should feel awesome for making it.
posted by Ghidorah at 7:04 PM on April 11, 2011
Plate of Beans
Not taters?
The flowchart made my day. It's awesome, and you should feel awesome for making it.
posted by Ghidorah at 7:04 PM on April 11, 2011
MetaTalk: A Thing Happened!
posted by The Whelk at 7:21 PM on April 11, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 7:21 PM on April 11, 2011 [2 favorites]
What would be the ideal Metafilter Ice Cream Flavor? Plate of Beans. Not taters?
Pancakes.
posted by PareidoliaticBoy at 9:38 PM on April 11, 2011
Pancakes.
posted by PareidoliaticBoy at 9:38 PM on April 11, 2011
This type of conversation is the lamest thing about this site.
Someone posted a simple truth above, verifiable by science (chocolate is the best ice cream flavor). Then a bunch of wishy-washy, sometimes (literally) fruity alternatives are posted and we're all obligated to take them seriously, when we all know they're SICK AND WRONG.
posted by maxwelton at 12:09 AM on April 12, 2011
Someone posted a simple truth above, verifiable by science (chocolate is the best ice cream flavor). Then a bunch of wishy-washy, sometimes (literally) fruity alternatives are posted and we're all obligated to take them seriously, when we all know they're SICK AND WRONG.
posted by maxwelton at 12:09 AM on April 12, 2011
maxwelton, you should start a new MeTa post about that.
posted by languagehat at 8:04 AM on April 12, 2011
posted by languagehat at 8:04 AM on April 12, 2011
The flow chart disagrees. RESPECT THE CHART.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 8:29 AM on April 12, 2011 [5 favorites]
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 8:29 AM on April 12, 2011 [5 favorites]
Aw, mefimailing one of us isn't a huge gaffe or anything, it's just suboptimal in a lot of cases because response time is slower (a LOT slower if you try me on a day that I forget to get back to my mefimail) and we end up having to coordinate mod-side if it requires further discussion. Don't feel stupid, feel informed!
Also the best ice cream is Tin Roof Sundae.
posted by cortex (staff) at 9:04 AM on April 12, 2011
Also the best ice cream is Tin Roof Sundae.
posted by cortex (staff) at 9:04 AM on April 12, 2011
I would just like to reiterate that "best" does not necessarily mean "favorite". Escape from New York is my most favorite movie ever, but it's by no means the best movie ever.
posted by crush-onastick at 9:31 AM on April 12, 2011
posted by crush-onastick at 9:31 AM on April 12, 2011
What would be the ideal Metafilter Ice Cream Flavor? Plate of Beans. Not taters?
Pancakes.
Pancakes with bacon!
(I saw chocolate with bacon last week at Whole Foods and might try it tonight.)
posted by jgirl at 11:46 AM on April 12, 2011
Is it Halloween?
Are you clavdivs?
METATALK!
posted by Curious Artificer at 12:01 PM on April 12, 2011
Are you clavdivs?
METATALK!
posted by Curious Artificer at 12:01 PM on April 12, 2011
Also the best ice cream is Tin Roof Sundae
Mouth Roof Everyday for me.
[Honestly. Chocolate? Best chocolate is real chocolate...]
posted by Namlit at 2:40 PM on April 12, 2011
Mouth Roof Everyday for me.
[Honestly. Chocolate? Best chocolate is real chocolate...]
posted by Namlit at 2:40 PM on April 12, 2011
Pancakes with bacon!
So I'm in Amsterdam and I am looking at the breakfest menu at some place around the corner from my hotel which SAID they opened at 9 but REALLY opened at 10 and I see they do dutch pancakes, crispy, big flat fried dough with various fillings. I am unsure in my dutch and alone and meek. I ask the waitress, with her tidy apron and air of harried efficiency, if possibly, if it didn't offend, maybe could I have the pancakes with both apple AND bacon?
"Oh Sure!" she says, but with a dutch accent so more elongated. Off she goes into the kitchen. I am left at my little white table with a pot of coffee and a thimble of juice.
The pancake arrives. I eat it. I then eat only that pancake for breakfast for the next 13 days.
I could spend the rest of my breakfasts eating that pancake.
posted by The Whelk at 5:36 PM on April 12, 2011 [2 favorites]
So I'm in Amsterdam and I am looking at the breakfest menu at some place around the corner from my hotel which SAID they opened at 9 but REALLY opened at 10 and I see they do dutch pancakes, crispy, big flat fried dough with various fillings. I am unsure in my dutch and alone and meek. I ask the waitress, with her tidy apron and air of harried efficiency, if possibly, if it didn't offend, maybe could I have the pancakes with both apple AND bacon?
"Oh Sure!" she says, but with a dutch accent so more elongated. Off she goes into the kitchen. I am left at my little white table with a pot of coffee and a thimble of juice.
The pancake arrives. I eat it. I then eat only that pancake for breakfast for the next 13 days.
I could spend the rest of my breakfasts eating that pancake.
posted by The Whelk at 5:36 PM on April 12, 2011 [2 favorites]
I thought that Walker Brothers made the best Chicagoland-area pancakes with bacon. I was wrong. Over Easy does.
Granted, if you go to Over Easy, you can't pretend you're in Ordinary People, but if I based all my decisions on pretending to be in that movie, I'd be drownèd.
posted by SpiffyRob at 8:03 AM on April 13, 2011
Granted, if you go to Over Easy, you can't pretend you're in Ordinary People, but if I based all my decisions on pretending to be in that movie, I'd be drownèd.
posted by SpiffyRob at 8:03 AM on April 13, 2011
I know I'm late to the party, but I had to correct y'all. The best ice cream comes from Bent Spoon in Princeton, NJ. They make a lot of good stuff, but vanilla sea salt caramel, lemon mascarpone and Guinness Bailey's are high up on the list.
posted by booksherpa at 9:07 AM on April 13, 2011
posted by booksherpa at 9:07 AM on April 13, 2011
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