nomic May 24, 2011 11:28 AM   Subscribe

I'd like to play MeFi Nomic again. Could we do that please?
posted by Meatbomb to MetaFilter-Related at 11:28 AM (135 comments total) 5 users marked this as a favorite

Rule 1: When you mention things that once happened, you must link to them.
posted by DU at 11:29 AM on May 24, 2011 [4 favorites]


Immutable Rule 117: No more Harold Camping posts.
posted by Trurl at 11:30 AM on May 24, 2011 [4 favorites]


clarify please (butter)
posted by clavdivs at 11:32 AM on May 24, 2011 [1 favorite]


Here is the old one.
posted by Meatbomb at 11:33 AM on May 24, 2011


Ohhhh.
YES!
posted by Lemurrhea at 11:35 AM on May 24, 2011


Nomic chess.

104. All rule-changes proposed in the proper way shall be voted on. They will be adopted if and only if they receive the required number of votes.

So if I wave my hands and tell "mother' jokes this will be voted upon or is it a immutable rule.
posted by clavdivs at 11:41 AM on May 24, 2011 [1 favorite]


Just for the sake of transparency / full disclosure:
  • I was Aaron A. Aaronson
  • Here is the last page of that game, where I won
  • In addition to winning the game I got the super special easter egg gold star appended to my name (and I think that is where the mods stole that idea for Jessamyn)
  • By the end of the game a few of my opponents hated me
Just so you know what you could potentially be getting into.
posted by Meatbomb at 11:42 AM on May 24, 2011 [1 favorite]


We went a day without a metatalk. Just pointing that out.
posted by cjorgensen at 11:46 AM on May 24, 2011 [7 favorites]


Could someone briefly outline the rules please?
posted by Jofus at 12:06 PM on May 24, 2011 [1 favorite]


It wasn't just a day but almost 48 hours without a MetaTalk post.
posted by Green With You at 12:08 PM on May 24, 2011


Jofus et al:

Here is the Wikipedia article on Nomic.
Here is the ruleset that was in place for this game at the end of play.

Basically it is a game about changing the rules of the game. Pretty meta, eh? It was a metreic tonne of fun last time. Poke around on the links to the last game to get a flavour. The drupal setup that jay provided was excellent.
posted by Meatbomb at 12:13 PM on May 24, 2011


Could someone briefly outline the rules please?

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

(Or what Meatbomb said. But I think my explanation is more succinct.)
posted by m@f at 12:15 PM on May 24, 2011


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posted by Meatbomb at 12:20 PM on May 24, 2011


It's not a day without a metatalk post for people in India. (At least, if I'm doing the timezone math right.)
posted by madcaptenor at 12:23 PM on May 24, 2011


I hate rules lawyering in games where the rules aren't supposed to be the point, but a game consisting entirely of rules lawyering somehow seems like it would be fun. I didn't follow that closely last time, but it seemed like the winners just formed a faction large enough to control the voting process so they could more or less declare themselves the winners. Does that always happen? If not what generally stops everyone from simply never recognizing anyone else as being the winner?
posted by burnmp3s at 12:28 PM on May 24, 2011


It's not a day without a metatalk post for people in India. (At least, if I'm doing the timezone math right.)

Well, there hasn't been a *date* without a metatalk post (here in the UAE), but the gap between posts (everywhere) was more than 46 hours.
posted by bardophile at 12:29 PM on May 24, 2011


Count me in!
posted by mkb at 12:40 PM on May 24, 2011


There are some interesting points in time therein article but I don’t know if I see all of them heart to middle . There is some validity but I will take hold judgement until I look into it further. Good article , thanks and we want more! Added to FeedBurner also.
posted by Curious Artificer at 12:44 PM on May 24, 2011 [1 favorite]


You kids and your games, I don't know. Now be good and make sure to wake me when "Matlock" comes on.
posted by tommasz at 12:56 PM on May 24, 2011


I always get all excited to play and then I never do.

cf: fantasy sports leagues
posted by BitterOldPunk at 12:56 PM on May 24, 2011


I am totally in.
posted by Rory Marinich at 12:56 PM on May 24, 2011


Oooh.
posted by Phire at 12:58 PM on May 24, 2011


There are some interesting points in time therein article but I don’t know if I see all of them heart to middle . There is some validity but I will take hold judgement until I look into it further. Good article , thanks and we want more! Added to FeedBurner also.
posted by Curious Artificer at 14:44 on May 24 [+] [!]


Cool, maybe we can discuss this over some v1agra or ci@lis.
posted by Jpfed at 1:12 PM on May 24, 2011


By pearl drop earrings at 05/11/2011 - 20:25

Sweet, my new drag sockpuppet name!
posted by mykescipark at 1:20 PM on May 24, 2011


That's what we call Constitutional Law in New Zealand.
posted by doublehappy at 1:20 PM on May 24, 2011


No one gets my jokes. *sniffle*
posted by Jofus at 1:27 PM on May 24, 2011 [4 favorites]


cjorgensen: We went a day without a metatalk. Just pointing that out.

But this is the best kind of MetaTalk post. Can you imagine the joy that cortex experienced, on hearing the dull thud of a MetaTalk e-mail notice thump into his inbox, to find that it wasn't someone inquiring as to why his mother sold her goods on the free market, but Meatbomb proposing people gather to play a silly game? I imagine his reaction could be written out onomatopoetically as: Phewheeeeeeeeee!
posted by Kattullus at 1:28 PM on May 24, 2011


The first rule is everyone has to find my jokes funny.
posted by Potomac Avenue at 1:31 PM on May 24, 2011


Dude, I've barely got the Health Month thing figured out. I stand absolutely no chance of understanding this.
posted by jbickers at 1:34 PM on May 24, 2011


I imagine his reaction could be written out onomatopoetically as: Phewheeeeeeeeee!

Yeah, but then it slides into "...eeeeerrrmmm", as I try to decide whether I should really get myself involved in another Nomic game.
posted by cortex (staff) at 1:37 PM on May 24, 2011 [2 favorites]


I hate you already Meatbomb - and I mean that in the sweetest possible way.
posted by plinth at 1:37 PM on May 24, 2011 [2 favorites]


GEE THANKS. I WAS JUST COMPLAINING THAT I'M NOT BUSY ENOUGH, SEEING AS TO HOW I ONLY HAVE 3 HOURS OUT OF EVERY 48 THAT CAN BE DEVOTED TO SLEEP.

May the curse of Mary Murphy and her nine blind illegitimate children chase you so far over the hills of Hell that God himself couldn't find you with a radio telescope.

OK, I'm in. This looks like fun. :)
posted by zarq at 1:39 PM on May 24, 2011 [1 favorite]


Is it my turn?
posted by doublehappy at 1:44 PM on May 24, 2011


Yeah, I'm in, too. When do we start? Do I need to wear any particular kind of headgear, or throw signs, or anything like that?
posted by steambadger at 2:06 PM on May 24, 2011


You will need semaphore flags, steambadger.
posted by Mister_A at 2:17 PM on May 24, 2011


Interestin
posted by cashman at 2:17 PM on May 24, 2011


LET'S DO IT

IT IS A FAIRLY LARGE RULESET
posted by adamdschneider at 2:18 PM on May 24, 2011


"CCCCAAAAPPPPPP-LOOOOCCCCCKKKKKK"
posted by clavdivs at 2:19 PM on May 24, 2011


The first rule of Nomic is you don't talk about Nomic.

The second rule is that you can change the first rule.
posted by Trurl at 2:38 PM on May 24, 2011 [2 favorites]


I still want to play Solium Infernum
posted by T.D. Strange at 2:43 PM on May 24, 2011


So, it's Fluxx, then?
posted by davejay at 2:44 PM on May 24, 2011


Plan B: Hungry Hungry Hippos
posted by Trurl at 2:48 PM on May 24, 2011 [1 favorite]


Proposed rule change: the hippos are hostile rather than hungry.
posted by davejay at 2:48 PM on May 24, 2011 [1 favorite]


Hmm, I have Solium Infernum...
posted by adamdschneider at 2:55 PM on May 24, 2011


Yes, please. This sounds like fun. I will probably be on the side that not only manages to lose, but manages to lose in an historically bad fashion, so... Yeah, let's do this thing.
posted by Rock Steady at 2:56 PM on May 24, 2011


I'm in.

Should we do the initial rule set around a theme?

I suggest lobsters, soiled lederhosen and Pat Sajak.
posted by empath at 3:04 PM on May 24, 2011


550. No Lobsters!
posted by Devils Rancher at 3:07 PM on May 24, 2011


Wow, looking through the last game, it looks like a game designed for people who enjoyed the Robert's Rules part of student government.
posted by smackfu at 3:11 PM on May 24, 2011


lobster lederhosen? Will there be copious TNT and lava?
posted by m@f at 3:11 PM on May 24, 2011


I thought rule #1 of Nomic was you're not supposed to play Nomic.

Hey, wait, did I just win? I don't know, but I bet you just lost The Game.
posted by loquacious at 3:28 PM on May 24, 2011


Pat Sajak

Television Game Show has a certain appeal as a possible framework.
posted by cortex (staff) at 3:30 PM on May 24, 2011


This sounds like Calvinball without a ball.
posted by Cobalt at 3:42 PM on May 24, 2011 [3 favorites]


What I would like to see, if we play is more emphasis on setting up the rules of the game so that someone can win by following the rules, and less emphasis on changing the rules so that someone becomes the winner.

I'm going to only put forward rules to establish things like tokens, a game board, etc, at least at the beginning, and I hope everyone else plays along.
posted by empath at 3:58 PM on May 24, 2011


"The game is Mao, the game starts... Now."
posted by tomboko at 4:07 PM on May 24, 2011


I vote that we BRING BACK MY DELETED POST, CORTEX. Or, conversely we play Horny, Horny Hippos.
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 4:22 PM on May 24, 2011


This sounds like Calvinball without a ball.

yeah, but we can change the rules so that there is a ball.

(I'm probably in. I haven't played Nomic in a long time but I remember enjoying it back when I did.)
posted by madcaptenor at 4:25 PM on May 24, 2011


This sounds totally awesome and like a way to ensure that I never have time to sleep ever again. PERFECT. When do we start?
posted by stoneweaver at 6:11 PM on May 24, 2011


I vote that we BRING BACK MY DELETED POST, CORTEX

Oooh. Prizes.

Let's see now. We could do....
  • One Card redeemable for "Post Undeletion"
  • One Card redeemable for "A Shortened Time To Next Post"
  • One "IMG tag exception for a month" Card
  • One Ghostbusters 2 DVD
  • One Celestial Mod Powerup
  • One Banjo
  • One T-Shirt that says "Metafilter's Own" on the front and your choice of either "We Have Cameras" or "It's Plo Chops All The Way Down" on the back
  • One Stylin' Fedora
  • One Plate of Refried Beans
  • ...
posted by zarq at 6:17 PM on May 24, 2011 [2 favorites]


I'm totally in. And I'm a troublemaker, I warn you.
posted by unSane at 6:49 PM on May 24, 2011


This is a bag-flag zone!
posted by toodleydoodley at 6:55 PM on May 24, 2011


I still feel a little bad about how we totally won the last game in a completely aboveboard and legitimate fashion free from any possible criticism.

I'd like to play again.
posted by gerryblog at 7:02 PM on May 24, 2011


OK, it seems some people are serious here about doing this. Excellent.

Here are a couple things that need to happen for this to work:

1. We need some location and we need someone willing to set it up the space. Like I said, jay did an excellent job with that dedicated drupal site last time. Obviously this is quite a task to take on in addition to playing. I imagine that a wiki could also be used as the play area. Anyone up for this?

2. Someone needs to get an initial ruleset together before we start. In the last game it was really kind of a rushed clusterfuck - we just used the standard set which made beginning in a way that everyone felt was fair and right almost impossible.

3. People need to realise this is potentially a commitment. You probably have to have 30 minutes / day or so on an ongoing basis to effectively play. As can be expected there was a massive initial surge of players on the list last time, and it very quickly fell off to a group of maybe 10 or 12.

Point one is the real kicker. Volunteers? Anyone?
posted by Meatbomb at 7:06 PM on May 24, 2011


I still feel a little bad about how we totally won the last game in a completely aboveboard and legitimate fashion free from any possible criticism.

I'd like to play again.


gerryblog, when you made the good and right decision to join my winning team we helped the losers learn the value of teamwork and cooperation, and there is nothing to feel bad about.
posted by Meatbomb at 7:07 PM on May 24, 2011


I can donate server space, and I have enough tech know-how to install a wiki or a simple CMS (I've only worked with Wordpress and Joomla, but I can't imagine that Drupal would be too arduous to pick up), but not much beyond that. What are the requirements for hosting this game?
posted by Phire at 7:11 PM on May 24, 2011


What are the requirements for the playspace?
posted by unSane at 7:11 PM on May 24, 2011


What are the requirements for the playspace?

Needs a forum for public announcements / talk / diplomacy, and some kind of page system for each turn. There probably needs to be some sort of authoring control on certain pages (e.g. the ruleset). Needs to be a voting system for rules proposals (which needs to be visible / transparent).

Probably needs a login system to prevent spammers / non players from editing stuff..

These would all be "initial conditions" that, once set up, people would need to buy into / accept before actual play started.

Someone needs to tweak the initial ruleset to at least somewhat reflect these initial conditions. The idea is not that the rules would be fully formed and playable, but that we could at least get the game started based on the initial rules. The rush to start with the face-to-face standard rules seemed a point of contention last time.
posted by Meatbomb at 7:28 PM on May 24, 2011


Yeah, a modified ruleset designed for email or wiki play would probably be smart. Suber's original rules are a bit on the wonky side even for a game like Nomic, imho, so something a little more stripped down (if not necessarily as bare as one-rule "All players must agree to a proposed rule change for it to take effect" nuttiness) might make things a little easier on folks newer to the Nomic flow.
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:34 PM on May 24, 2011


You (or I) could do all this with Drupal but I sort of feel that the wiki model might be the better one, where you only have one modality of interacting with the site, instead of a bunch of different ones.
posted by unSane at 7:47 PM on May 24, 2011


(or a forum with various subfora for the different functions -- I could put this together in an evening)
posted by unSane at 7:49 PM on May 24, 2011


I think a forum probably makes the most sense:

- one board for announcements / rulesets that only admins can edit
- one board for turns
- one board for discussions
- a built-in private messaging system
- built-in polling
etc.

A lot of forum installations will let you see all new posts since the last time you visited, which makes it easier to keep up to date with all new developments than a wiki or with a CMS.
posted by Phire at 7:53 PM on May 24, 2011


The alternative to a forum would be a listserv for most of the communication; depending on who is doing the administering, it may be mostly a matter of taste, but the listserv model does have the advantage of being really minimal in complexity and making the authentication thing basically a non-issue.
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:55 PM on May 24, 2011


I think a forum probably makes the most sense

This really makes sense to me, Phire. The downside of the drupal was that it was a bit complicated, and the "initial conditions" and admin were also a point of contention. Simpler is better! Less to nitpick and complain about, and less admin work once it is set up.

(or a forum with various subfora for the different functions -- I could put this together in an evening)

Well then that sounds great. Maybe let's wait a little more in this thread to see what others say and to allow other interested folks to speak up, and if you are indeed sure you can do this without a lot of hassle then let's put unSane in the driver's seat...
posted by Meatbomb at 8:11 PM on May 24, 2011


You could start a group for it over on Gamefilter -- game groups have forum discussions attached now (NEW FEATURE), PMs and all kinds of other good stuff built in!

Cortex or Meatbomb or anyone else are welcome to go ahead and start one up if you want!
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 8:13 PM on May 24, 2011 [1 favorite]


OK, just give me the nod. All I would need is the forum structure you would like to see.
posted by unSane at 8:13 PM on May 24, 2011


Ooh, Gamefilter sounds good. How is the uptime, Stavros? It was a little flakey on MeFightClub when I was hanging out there with the broken leg.
posted by unSane at 8:14 PM on May 24, 2011


Ooh, it seems stav has had a change of heart. If he's interested in helping set up the space, and already has a lot of infrastructure in place, it sounds like it would be a PERFECT FIT! Like the platonic ideal of MetaFilter-GameFilter synergy.
posted by Meatbomb at 8:16 PM on May 24, 2011 [1 favorite]


MFC was having some problems -- it's way heavy on the db -- a while back, so I bought a MySQL virtual private server.

Gamefilter has the occasional minor burp, but it's been fine so far basically. I think it should be totally OK, and I'd be happy to try and add features if necessary if you folks decide to use it, but I think the existing infrastructure already there might suit your needs pretty well.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 8:17 PM on May 24, 2011


Ooh, it seems stav has had a change of heart.

Nah, I was just joshing ya, ya big softie. See here. ;-)
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 8:17 PM on May 24, 2011


(By MFC I meant the forums themselves -- Vanilla is the forums tool I use for Mefight Club proper.)
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 8:18 PM on May 24, 2011


Anyone who's already a Gfi member can create the group (WePlay on the menu) -- just make sure you don't untick the 'Enable Forum' during the creation wizard, and you'll be good to go!
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 8:20 PM on May 24, 2011


That sounds like a good solution. Would be great to keep it in the family, so to speak.
posted by unSane at 8:23 PM on May 24, 2011


Just to avoid duplication: I am setting up a group on GameFilter now.
posted by Meatbomb at 8:27 PM on May 24, 2011


OK guys, here it is.

I have to get to work so need to leave just the initial bare bones group for now. I haven't sent any invites - so please, if you are interested, come and join at GameFilter.

I do not think I have the technical competence to be the main admin / point man for this... I hope that stav is willing to support us in the initial getting started phase if we stay here (and maybe join and play too!).
posted by Meatbomb at 8:32 PM on May 24, 2011


Cool bananas. Let me know if you need anything here, at MFC, or at Gamefilter itself (via PM or @stavrosthewonderchicken in any post you make), and I'll try to help.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 8:39 PM on May 24, 2011


Stavros, the signup is not working for me. I got through the page successfully but the activation email with its link

http://gamefilter.net/activate?key=***REDACTED***

gets redirected to

http://gamefilter.net/activate

and asks for a key. When I copy/paste the ***REDACTED*** part it just does the same thing.

Safari/Gmail fwiw
posted by unSane at 8:49 PM on May 24, 2011


Buttery shitballs! Why do these things always happen at precisely the moment they shouldn't?

Have you tried logging in with the credentials you supplied when you signed up?
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 8:54 PM on May 24, 2011


Gosh, stav, the GameFilter site is gorgeous. I'll be signing up as soon as unSane gets through.
posted by Phire at 9:07 PM on May 24, 2011 [1 favorite]


I'm furiously farting around in the backend. Something odd is going on, but please feel free to signup. If you do have a problem with activating, I'll activate new accounts manually as I see them...sorry about this. It's been working just fine for months. Sigh.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 9:10 PM on May 24, 2011


Have you tried logging in with the credentials you supplied when you signed up?

yep, got wrong password error + no cookies error, even though cookies enabled
posted by unSane at 9:39 PM on May 24, 2011


Damn it, I am so sorry. You are registered, your account is in the system. This is infuriating, embarrassing and baffling. I'm going to reset your password and send it to you via MeFi mail... let's see what happens.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 9:43 PM on May 24, 2011


OK, am in -- thanks, Stavros

Everyone else -- jump in, the water's fine!
posted by unSane at 9:53 PM on May 24, 2011 [2 favorites]

1. We need some location and we need someone willing to set it up the space. Like I said, jay did an excellent job with that dedicated drupal site last time. Obviously this is quite a task to take on in addition to playing. I imagine that a wiki could also be used as the play area. Anyone up for this?
I'd be o'erjoyed to update the Drupal and add a wiki module and other trimmings.
posted by jayCampbell at 11:31 PM on May 24, 2011


I'm in too. I'm totally new to this, but it seems very exciting.
posted by Apropos of Something at 5:43 AM on May 25, 2011


At the risk of repeating what has already been said, this does seem very exciting.
posted by hudders at 6:19 AM on May 25, 2011


Awesome, I've wanted to play this since I read about it in Metamagical games.
posted by milestogo at 6:29 AM on May 25, 2011


OK guys, here it is.

You may want to MeFiMail anyone in this thread who said "I'm in" or something similar with the link. In my experience people don't always check back on old MeTa threads for this sort of thing.
posted by burnmp3s at 6:44 AM on May 25, 2011


I'm in too, my tactic whilst playing will be to spread discord through esoteric hints dropped to other players about their rival's strategies and how they are being plotted against. If anyone busts me on this, I will claim to be Ming The Merciless and vanish in a puff of smoke/air freshener.
posted by greenish at 7:01 AM on May 25, 2011


You may want to MeFiMail anyone in this thread who said "I'm in" or something similar with the link. In my experience people don't always check back on old MeTa threads for this sort of thing.

Hey burnmp3s - if you want to do that go for it, but I am already busy with trying to get things moving over on the game site.

I kind of feel like (based on last time) the flake / drop out factor will be really high... so having the barrier of entry set to "care enough to check back in and see what's going on" and "follow the link to where the game is happening" is not unreasonably high :)

We already have 11 peeps onboard, come on over folks! We're already trying to hammer out the initial rules and I could see play starting in a couple days maybe.

I'd be o'erjoyed to update the Drupal and add a wiki module and other trimmings.

jay, a real shame on the timing with this as I for one would have jumped at this option. But given that people are already signing up at the GameFilter site... maybe we can keep this open as a potential back up if for whatever reason things don't work out with stav's site?
posted by Meatbomb at 8:25 AM on May 25, 2011


But given that people are already signing up at the GameFilter site... maybe we can keep this open as a potential back up if for whatever reason things don't work out with stav's site?

More to the point, depending on what all comes up in the development of the ruleset it may be useful to have some supplementary "game state" webspace for managing the turn-by-turn conceptual map of the world even if Gamefilter works out great for the daily proposal/vote/etc stuff.
posted by cortex (staff) at 8:47 AM on May 25, 2011


I'm having the same problem as unSane. The system does not recognize my email address.
posted by zarq at 9:13 AM on May 25, 2011


Oh, duh. It was asking for my username, not my email address. I'm in. Sorry.

I kan reed gud.
posted by zarq at 9:23 AM on May 25, 2011 [1 favorite]


Yeah, definitely need a better starting ruleset. I think that was the biggest weakness last time.

Also figure out beforehand how or if you want to deal with people in different timezones and on different schedules. Some of the expectations last time were totally unreasonable for someone not living in the US and/or not glued to a computer screen all day long. Which is fine if that's the way it's set up from the start, then people know what they're getting into. But was not so cool to deal with as it goes along (and eventually became too much trouble for me).

I'm in a better timezone now but am also dealing with an omgcareer job after being a student for several years, so I don't think this kind of commitment makes sense for me. But I'll be watching to see how it goes, it was definitely interesting last time.
posted by shelleycat at 11:04 AM on May 25, 2011


About 15 or 20 folks have successfully signed up at Gamefilter (huzzah!) since yesterday, so I think the minor speedbump that unSane hit is resolved.

Even if you're not keen on Nomic, I invite you to come on over and set a spell if you're at all into games of any description. There's lots of other good stuff going on at GFi too...
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 6:30 PM on May 25, 2011 [1 favorite]


“What is a Caucus-race?” said Alice; not that she much wanted to know, but the Dodo had paused as if it thought that somebody ought to speak, and no one else seemed inclined to say anything.

“Why,” said the Dodo, “the best way to explain it is to do it.” (And, as you might like to try the thing yourself, some winter day, I will tell you how the Dodo managed it.)

First it marked out a race-course, in a sort of circle ("the exact shape doesn’t matter,” it said), and then all the party were placed along the course, here and there.

There was no “One, two, three, and away!” but they began running when they liked, and left off when they liked, so that it was not easy to know when the race was over. However, when they had been running half an hour or so, and were quite dry again, the Dodo suddenly called out “The race is over!” and they all crowded round it, panting, and asking, “But who has won?”
posted by a humble nudibranch at 11:41 PM on May 25, 2011


Not content being the Last of the First!, Meatbomb has gone all gnomic.
posted by arcticseal at 5:13 AM on May 26, 2011


ALL have won, and ALL shall have prizes!

Last chance, guys, the game has (sort of) started, you can still get in within the next 24 hours or so.
posted by Meatbomb at 10:15 AM on May 26, 2011


Mornington Crescent!
posted by Decani at 3:48 PM on May 26, 2011


I've finally bitten the bullet and am moving Gamefilter (and all of my sites) over to a virtual private server, so if you've run into some performance issues, hopefully by the end of today (Korea time) things will be much better.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 6:01 PM on May 26, 2011 [1 favorite]


Mornington Crescent!
DINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDING!
posted by Meatbomb at 6:34 PM on May 26, 2011


I wanna thank stav for going to all the work for us, but I can't! There's just this stupid 'favourites' nonsense....
posted by Phire at 6:48 PM on May 26, 2011 [3 favorites]


Gamefilter.net is unreachable for me right now.
posted by unSane at 7:06 AM on May 27, 2011


MeFightClub is down, too, it might be due to the server move?
posted by Phire at 7:14 AM on May 27, 2011


She's back.
posted by hudders at 8:19 AM on May 27, 2011


I can get to the site, but when I click on "We Play" I get a blank screen.
posted by steambadger at 9:24 AM on May 27, 2011


I think GaFi got pwned, stav. I get a blank screen too.
posted by Rock Steady at 9:28 AM on May 27, 2011


Oops, soon as I say that I reload and it comes up fine.

GG
posted by Rock Steady at 9:29 AM on May 27, 2011


I'm still getting a blank screen about 90% of the time.
posted by DaDaDaDave at 9:43 AM on May 27, 2011


Yeah, Chrome is giving me a 'no data received' error. Er. Usually. This reload worked, apparently.
posted by Lemurrhea at 10:05 AM on May 27, 2011


It's sort of working for me now but dog slow.
posted by unSane at 10:42 AM on May 27, 2011


I'm getting results about half the time, blank pages the other half.
posted by steambadger at 10:53 AM on May 27, 2011


For me MeFightClub is mostly working just fine, but I haven't reached GameFilter today at all. Here's hoping this gets fixed soon. I'm presuming this has to do with the server transfer. All glory to the Wonderchicken!
posted by Kattullus at 10:58 AM on May 27, 2011


It's sleepytime here in Asia (3 am), so I imagine stav is going to wake up to a long list of server log errors... Good morning, sunshine! :)
posted by Meatbomb at 12:16 PM on May 27, 2011


Fury would be a good word to describe how I feel at the moment.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 4:34 PM on May 27, 2011 [2 favorites]


/sends coffee and mental support
posted by Phire at 6:43 PM on May 27, 2011


Oh ye gods, this is going to cost much more money than I'd anticipated.

Ah well: I've bumped up the resource level for the virtual private server, so hopefully things will be better than they have the last 2 days or so. Profuse apologies. I should have known things wouldn't be that easy!
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 6:43 PM on May 28, 2011


madcaptenor: "yeah, but we can change the rules so that there is a ball. "

I am imagining a play by mail ball game where the players mail the ball to one another in order to "pass" it.
posted by idiopath at 9:03 PM on May 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Hey, Stav, it is still throwing 500 errors for me. I suspect it is more than a simple resource question.
posted by unSane at 5:31 AM on May 29, 2011


Agh, evidently there is some kind of drama going on in the vote thread that I started but since GF isn't loading I can't see it, commernt, ask for a judgement, or anything else? Can I request a timeout until we get the server issues sorted please?
posted by unSane at 5:47 AM on May 29, 2011


Never mind... I finally got in after many retries and I'm just gonna let you guys sort that one out I'm afraid...
posted by unSane at 5:56 AM on May 29, 2011


On further reflection, if we were mailing the ball, an "interception" would be a very serious crime in real world terms.

Now I am thinking that the human residences would be field positions, and the players and the ball would each be packages. If someone mails you the ball, you hold on to it if you don't currently have a player. If you have one, or when a player shows up in the mail, you mail the player and the ball to their next destination if they are dribbling, you mail the ball to one destination and the player to another if they are passing.
posted by idiopath at 6:08 AM on May 29, 2011 [1 favorite]


The ball would go to the last player to arrive before the ball did at a given location.

Each player would contain either a rock, a sheet of paper, or a pair of scissors. In case of a tie, the players in dispute will be opened and the dispute settled by comparing package contents.
posted by idiopath at 7:22 AM on May 29, 2011


Ack, looks like I am too late to the party, but I'd love to play! Request in on Gamefilter.
posted by equivocator at 11:38 PM on May 30, 2011


Down.
posted by doublehappy at 5:31 AM on June 1, 2011


Is the nomic still accepting new players?
I applied for forum membership on gamefilter.
posted by yoz420 at 10:25 AM on June 2, 2011


Down.

All of the sites I've moved over to the VPS become unavailable for about 25 minutes, at precisely the same time every day -- 9:15 pm, my time. It is odd, but I'm looking at it. Uptime has been... reasonable otherwise.

I am actively working on caching strategies and minifying and all that stuff to try to improve performance, but there is much optimization work to be done, I know. I am very much self-taught with this stuff, and my learning curve is out there for everyone to point and laugh at, but I'm doing my best.

yoz, I think the game's underway, but you can send a PM on Gamefilter to Meatbomb, maybe, to check if you can get in or not.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 6:24 PM on June 2, 2011


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