demographic mismatch, or possible meetup activity? July 2, 2012 9:43 AM   Subscribe


I guess they ran out of money for marketing.
posted by winna at 9:52 AM on July 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


Well, the Ron Paul campaign isn't doing much better.

I actually queued up Atlas Shrugged last night, got a stomach ache, went to the can, came back and decided against it and put on the Fifth Element. So what I'm saying is that I want to see more Fifth Element ads.
posted by griphus at 9:55 AM on July 2, 2012 [11 favorites]


Oh - I wanted to tell whoever it was in that (deleted) thread who was asking about the size of the crowd that that's just how we roll in Manchester. The Whelk, hopefully, can confirm this.
posted by Jofus at 9:57 AM on July 2, 2012


this is because you did not let the healing power of tacos into your heart

and stomach
posted by elizardbits at 9:58 AM on July 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


I did not.
posted by Ayn Rand and God at 9:58 AM on July 2, 2012 [2 favorites]


I had Chinese food. It was a mistake. It's always a mistake and yet...
posted by griphus at 9:59 AM on July 2, 2012


I am Walt Galt, John's feeble-minded cousin.
posted by Devils Rancher at 10:00 AM on July 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


I guess they ran out of money for marketing.

Hmm, so in Hollywood you can't actually go around wearing your self-promotion and greed on your sleeve (like an arm-band almost). Who knew?
posted by The 10th Regiment of Foot at 10:01 AM on July 2, 2012


I'm trying to come up with the Rand mythos equivalent of Billy Beer and help
posted by griphus at 10:02 AM on July 2, 2012


I've now seen the Atlas Shrugged Part 1 twice. I fully expect to see Part Two in theaters. Every moment is, from when Dagney rides in a limo past a homeless man who deserves to be poor to when she screams with existential horror because someone destroyed a profitable business is pure god. This is a movie where people say things like "Ragnar the Pirate" with completely straight faces. There is nothing not to like.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 10:10 AM on July 2, 2012


The Whelk, hopefully, can confirm this.

Yes, when Jofus met me in Manchester he greeted me with a "Mancunian hello" - a punch to the throat followed by the traditional looting and pillaging.
posted by The Whelk at 10:13 AM on July 2, 2012 [7 favorites]


So, this is how metafilter makes its money...
posted by cjorgensen at 10:14 AM on July 2, 2012



I'm looking forward to that movie - it's the one where a guy forms a union and demonstrates the power of collective action in actualizing societal change, right ?
posted by Pogo_Fuzzybutt at 10:16 AM on July 2, 2012 [14 favorites]


So that movie is actually coming out? I thought Part 1 flopped so hard that the producers were giving it up.
posted by brundlefly at 10:20 AM on July 2, 2012


It looks like they've almost made budget (what's a "private debt sale"?) and have a cast and a shooting schedule.
posted by griphus at 10:22 AM on July 2, 2012


I like how the teaser trailer is apparently just people talking about Rand, no actual footage. That's just perfect.
posted by The Whelk at 10:24 AM on July 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


I guess they ran out of money for marketing.

Well you know, the invisible hand of the market is-- wait now my brain hurts.
posted by shakespeherian at 10:28 AM on July 2, 2012


If they get through Pt. 2, they're golden. The budget for the third movie is five thousand dollars because it's just a static digicam shot of an old CRT showing a guy in a four thousand dollar suit reading from index cards.
posted by griphus at 10:29 AM on July 2, 2012 [7 favorites]


Oh, right, the guy in the $7800 suit is going to read from index cards! COME ON
posted by shakespeherian at 10:37 AM on July 2, 2012 [22 favorites]


He will do it while standing on the faces of the poor.
posted by elizardbits at 10:39 AM on July 2, 2012 [2 favorites]


...put on the Fifth Element. So what I'm saying is that I want to see more Fifth Element ads.

But....you...don't need to? You apparently need to see more Atlas Shrugged ads?

Someone is not understanding the concept of ads.
posted by DU at 10:39 AM on July 2, 2012


The Drafthouse is showing The Fifth Element a couple of times this month and I am seriously excited.
posted by restless_nomad (staff) at 10:42 AM on July 2, 2012 [3 favorites]


Ads are about reaffirming my unique lifestyle branding choices as symbol of my individuality, and my belief in personal freedom.

Ergo, more ads for snakeskin jackets.
posted by shakespeherian at 10:42 AM on July 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


I had no idea that shakepeherian was Ted Nugent.
posted by The 10th Regiment of Foot at 10:43 AM on July 2, 2012


In a way, aren't we all Ted Nugent?
posted by The Whelk at 10:44 AM on July 2, 2012 [3 favorites]


it's just a static digicam shot of an old CRT showing a guy in a four thousand dollar suit reading from index cards.

Yeah, like the guy in the FOUR THOUSAND DOLLAR SUIT is gonna hold his own index cards. COME ON!
posted by Greg Nog at 10:45 AM on July 2, 2012


Holy shit look what shakespeherian already did

I am ashamed that I leapt so quickly to make the most obvious comment without checking first
posted by Greg Nog at 10:46 AM on July 2, 2012 [2 favorites]




It happens to 1 in 4 mefites at sometime in their life Greg.
posted by The Whelk at 10:47 AM on July 2, 2012 [2 favorites]


DU: " Someone is not understanding the concept of ads."

If some of us see enough ads for The Fifth Element, we might feel compelled to go out and buy the ultra-deluxe 3D, eight disc dvd set with little included "element stones," Milla Jovovich ace-bandage costume action figure, and Genuine MultiPass™ souvenirs.

If the price was right.

No matter how many ads we see for Atlas Shrugged, there's no way in hell some of us will ever watch that crap.
posted by zarq at 10:53 AM on July 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


Like the guy in the four thousand dollar suit is going to relate a folksy aphorism about low-hanging fruit.

COME ON.
posted by griphus at 10:54 AM on July 2, 2012


and Genuine MultiPass™ souvenirs.

here is my wallet, make this happen.
posted by The Whelk at 10:54 AM on July 2, 2012 [8 favorites]


Blu-ray or bust, zarq.

Also, I'm not starting to think that whoever is doing the marketing for Atlas Shrugged has a degree in homeopathy.
posted by griphus at 10:55 AM on July 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


I am Walt Galt

I AM THE ONE WHO SHRUGS
posted by yellowbinder at 10:56 AM on July 2, 2012 [5 favorites]


Now I think that if they were smart they would have gotten Harold Perrineau in this movie to scream GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALT! MY BOY! GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALT!
posted by shakespeherian at 10:58 AM on July 2, 2012 [8 favorites]


Shruggoth
posted by The Whelk at 10:59 AM on July 2, 2012


So, this is how metafilter makes its money...

It all spends the same. The way I always saw it when some crackpot wanted me to print their awful T-shrts was that now I had their money, and they didn't.
posted by Devils Rancher at 11:00 AM on July 2, 2012 [2 favorites]


I've now seen the Atlas Shrugged Part 1 twice..... Every moment is... is pure god.

So what you're saying is, it's faithful to what Ayn Ran wrote except that it's pantheistic?
posted by orange swan at 11:01 AM on July 2, 2012


griphus: "Blu-ray or bust, zarq.

I'm holding out for the virtual movie experience. They drop you into a fully realized environment and you become non-interactive scenery.

The Whelk: "here is my wallet, make this happen."

Heh. We could make milllllllllllions. :D

Google shows the action figure has been done.

And... this is also available.
posted by zarq at 11:03 AM on July 2, 2012


The Drafthouse is showing The Fifth Element a couple of times this month and I am seriously excited.

I used to know a guy who saw The Fifth Element three times. The first time, he hated it. The second time, he forgot that he saw it before and said it was okay, but not great. The third time, he forgot that he had seen the movie TWICE and absolutely loved it.

This whole exercise was pretty confusing which made it a perfect commentary on how I felt about The Fifth Element.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 11:06 AM on July 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


Floating noddle boats never come to MY window *grumble mumble*
posted by The Whelk at 11:08 AM on July 2, 2012 [2 favorites]


I'm holding out for the virtual movie experience. They drop you into a fully realized environment and you become non-interactive scenery.

Another gripping entry in the Mrs. Simmons' Third Graders Present... series.
posted by griphus at 11:10 AM on July 2, 2012


Dear Budget: I know you originally had no room for fun this month, but, please, I beg of you, let me go see Fifth Element at Drafthouse!
posted by batmonkey at 11:10 AM on July 2, 2012


This summer! Atlas... will... shrug! For a second time!!!!
posted by GenjiandProust at 11:12 AM on July 2, 2012


I'm holding out for the virtual movie experience. They drop you into a fully realized environment and you become non-interactive scenery.

in RANT, movies are all recorded sensation ala Strange Days and the main character is revolted by the fact that the number one most popular simulation in the world is being a five year old playing on the beach .
posted by The Whelk at 11:13 AM on July 2, 2012


As opposed to real life, where it's Charlie Bit My Finger
posted by East Manitoba Regional Junior Kabaddi Champion '94 at 11:21 AM on July 2, 2012


Alec Baldwin sure is looking fit these days.
posted by Burhanistan at 11:29 AM on July 2, 2012


He goes to my gym and is somewhat shorter than I expected, but more importantly, he re-racks his own weights.
posted by elizardbits at 11:43 AM on July 2, 2012 [1 favorite]




Wow, apparently Young Alec Baldwin and I have the exact same chest hair configuration.

I call it The Warhammer.
posted by griphus at 11:48 AM on July 2, 2012


The first time you see Fifth Element, you understand how funny it is.

The second time you see Fifth Element, you understand how sad it is.

The third time you see Fifth Element, you understand how true it is.
posted by slogger at 11:48 AM on July 2, 2012


but more importantly, he re-racks his own weights.

A prince among men!

(This is one of my biggest pet peeves EVER.)
posted by restless_nomad (staff) at 11:50 AM on July 2, 2012


That is a pelt for sure.
posted by Burhanistan at 11:50 AM on July 2, 2012


As opposed to real life, where it's Charlie Bit My Finger

When I followed the link to YouTube from that article an ad for Atlas Shrugged II popped up!
posted by The 10th Regiment of Foot at 11:51 AM on July 2, 2012


parasite workers succumb to the base emotionalism of Charlie Bit My Fingers. True supermen see it as a pure demonstration of will.
posted by The Whelk at 11:52 AM on July 2, 2012 [2 favorites]


Nietzsche bit my wang.
posted by Burhanistan at 11:54 AM on July 2, 2012


I call it The Warhammer.

aka the mayonnaise storage facility.
posted by elizardbits at 11:56 AM on July 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


He goes to my gym

Did the yoga instructor he just married teach there too?
posted by The 10th Regiment of Foot at 11:56 AM on July 2, 2012


He met the yoga instructor at a vegan and/or raw foods restaurant in NYC. (At last, I can contribute some knowledge to the Metafilterians!)

And that is some serious serious chest hair. He and Steve Carrell should talk.
posted by bquarters at 12:05 PM on July 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


I also just watched Charlie bit my finger again...for approximately the third time. I loved it!

(Actually, it's semi-funny and odd that it struck such a nerve. Is it the accent? Who is the guy on here with the really cute British kid with the video of the kids eating a biscuit or something? That guy could be getting rich right now!)
posted by bquarters at 12:07 PM on July 2, 2012


Did the yoga instructor he just married teach there too?

No idea, but it seems like a fairly logical assumption, maybe?
posted by elizardbits at 12:18 PM on July 2, 2012


Watch Atlas Shrugged. Seriously people. It – the first part anyway – is a wonderful motion picture experience.

First off, you should have gone in theaters because nobody else would have, so you'd get the entire theater to yourself. A friend and I went and it felt like a fancy private showing room, only with gum stuck to all the seats everywhere.

Second off, the guy who shot the film has a weird ability to make everything feel utterly mundane. Trains moving at high speeds? Yawn. Elegant dinner parties? Might as well be high school kids in a basement. It's not the usual cinematic blandness, either. It's uniquely uninteresting.

Third off, at the VERY START OF THE FILM some dude is approached by Jgalt in the shadows, and when he says "Who are you?" (which, like, who is John Galt? OBVIOUS CONNECTION), Jgalt responds, seriously, "Someone who knows what it is to work for himself and not to let others profit off his energy." HE SAYS THIS ACTUALLY. LIKE WITH HIS VOICE VIBRATIONS.

The movie is fantastic, both in its adherence to Rand's pulp philosophy, and also in that its existence neatly disproves its own arguments. Can't wait for Part 2.
posted by Rory Marinich at 12:20 PM on July 2, 2012 [10 favorites]


"(what's a "private debt sale"?) "

In case anyone cares: It's essentially like selling a government bond to raise capital, except you're not the government. It's different than stock or a loan. They're usually senior debt, and often sold to a limited pool of investors, but I don't know if either of those is always true.

posted by Eyebrows McGee at 12:25 PM on July 2, 2012


The Whelk: in RANT, movies are all recorded sensation ala Strange Days and the main character is revolted by the fact that the number one most popular simulation in the world is being a five year old playing on the beach .

The appeal of the beach is strong. I've been recording random interesting-to-me stuff for years now, usually presentations or book readings, and by far the most popular is the one I got from going to the beach on a whim & taping an hour of surf. It's basically an hour of white noise.
posted by Pronoiac at 12:25 PM on July 2, 2012


Elegant dinner parties? Might as well be high school kids in a basement.

Now I desperately want to see Larry Clark and Harmony Korine's Atlas Shrugged. With circa-Gummo Chloe Sevigny as Dagny Taggart.

Let's DO THIS PEOPLE.
posted by griphus at 12:26 PM on July 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


And that is some serious serious chest hair. He and Steve Carrell should talk.

When they hug it is human velcro
posted by shakespeherian at 12:54 PM on July 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


Now I desperately want to see Larry Clark and Harmony Korine's Atlas Shrugged.

Who is John Galt? And why does he live on an island filled with celebrity impersonators?
posted by shakespeherian at 12:56 PM on July 2, 2012


I'm just enjoying the delicious irony of discovering that the cast and crew on Atlas Shrugged Part II are union.
posted by Parasite Unseen at 1:20 PM on July 2, 2012 [11 favorites]


John Galt in LCaHK'sAS is a Voltron made out of shirtless teenage boys.
posted by griphus at 1:22 PM on July 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


When I see a car with a "who is john galt" bumper sticker, if i get the chance at a light, I reply,

"A fictional character. Why?"
posted by notsnot at 2:00 PM on July 2, 2012


The fourth time you see Fifth Element, you understand the genius of Jean Paul Gaultier.

The fifth time you see Fifth Element, FIIIIVE GOOOLD RIIIINGS!

The sixth time you see Fifth Element, you understand that, in the future, we will no longer make primitive distinctions between hats and hair.

The seventh time you see Fifth Element, everything starts to feel like a Moebius comic.

The eighth time you see Fifth Element, you understand that everyone can find their own redemption

The ninth time you see Fifth Element, Leeloo Dallas Multipass!

The tenth time you see Fifth Element, you understand the real difference between a killer and a warrior.

The eleventh time you see Fifth Element, you understand the genius of Chris Tucker

The twelfth time you see Fifth Element, you understand that true faith adapts to the times.

The thirteenth time you see Fifth Element, you can taste music

The fourteenth time you see Fifth Element, you understand the genius of Luke Perry

The fifteenth time you see Fifth Element, time and space resolve into a single point that moves through you.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 2:08 PM on July 2, 2012 [10 favorites]


The fourth time you see Fifth Element, you understand the genius of Jean Paul Gaultier.

Seriously. I love that "Somebody That I Used To Know" song he does.
posted by cortex (staff) at 2:14 PM on July 2, 2012 [5 favorites]


"Every moment is... pure god."

Bulgaroktonos, I hope that's a typo.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 2:16 PM on July 2, 2012


I like the bit where they spent 20 million dollars on a TV movie.
posted by urbanwhaleshark at 2:30 PM on July 2, 2012


No that was Promethesus
posted by The Whelk at 2:38 PM on July 2, 2012


John Galt is Prometheus?
posted by urbanwhaleshark at 2:56 PM on July 2, 2012


Really David should've killed everyone and taken his rightful position as the superior being. Maybe if they stopped being Space Racist against robots for 30 seconds...
posted by The Whelk at 2:57 PM on July 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


being mean to robots never turns out well
posted by elizardbits at 3:02 PM on July 2, 2012


Wasn't that a minor plot point in the book version of 2010? Everyone is really overly polite and considerate toward the A.Is?
posted by The Whelk at 3:08 PM on July 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


Really David should've killed everyone and taken his rightful position as the superior being.

This sentence also works for A.I.
posted by shakespeherian at 3:09 PM on July 2, 2012 [2 favorites]


Promethesus

That's the one where John Galt beats the Promethesaurus!
posted by Devils Rancher at 3:13 PM on July 2, 2012


Promethesaurus was punished for bringing down the secret of RWOAR! From the Dino Gids.
posted by The Whelk at 3:15 PM on July 2, 2012


I just googled John Galt and google told me it would be coddling me if it did the actual work of finding information about John Galt for me. It encouraged me to find the answer for myself without any help from anyone or anything.

To that end, I am going to start reading every book ever written about anything until I find his name.

Shit, the librarian said I should rely on books for all my answers. Being a wanna-be libertarian is hard.
posted by Joey Michaels at 6:16 PM on July 2, 2012


sorry "shouldn't rely"
posted by Joey Michaels at 6:17 PM on July 2, 2012


Tonight's SyFy Original Movie: Promethesaurus vs. Arachnopiranhadactyl
posted by bakerina at 9:19 PM on July 2, 2012


Ebert's review of Atlas Shrugged is hilarious. In fact, the movie should be commended for producing such a colorful myriad of snarky reviews.

And, yes. I've never seen a movie that was quite so bland, and had such completely ridiculous characters; even the scientists in Prometheus were rational actors compared to the Taggarts. (And I happen to actually enjoy movies about trains...Unstoppable was great)
posted by schmod at 8:01 AM on July 3, 2012


The third time you see Fifth Element, you understand how true it is.


I actually watched this last night with my wife, just because we could. Yay the future and so forth... A few things struck me about the movie:

1) God, soundtracks in the 90s were awful. Not every song needs a booming bass C&C Music Factory beat. Even if it's opera.
2) This was the most French vision of the future ever. (In this case "French" is not a pejorative.) There are acutal people wearing both berets and shorts together and acting like it's not a thing. It's totally the French version of the jumpsuit in 1950's American SF.
3) Why is a Chinese guy selling Thai food?
4) Having a president who couldn't pronounce words correctly and just looks confused all the time was fantasy back then.
posted by 1f2frfbf at 12:34 PM on July 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


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