World Series on Fanfare? October 12, 2016 9:39 AM Subscribe
Is there a possibility that we could have some open threads on FanFare for the upcoming World Series? There are several teams in the mix to this point whose participation could be historic, so interest will quite possibly be higher than ever. I think we did the Olympics and the World Cup, IIRC, so this wouldn't be unprecedented. Is that a thing we could do?
Would there be any possibility/interest in threads for the ALCS and NLCS? Mostly I'm worried that Cubs fans will be disappointed that they don't have a thread to participate in after the Nats knock them out.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 9:44 AM on October 12, 2016 [6 favorites]
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 9:44 AM on October 12, 2016 [6 favorites]
That sounds fine. Since there's only the one set of games and no one could reasonably complain about spoilers, that makes perfect sense.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 9:45 AM on October 12, 2016
posted by DirtyOldTown at 9:45 AM on October 12, 2016
Mostly I'm worried that Cubs fans will be disappointed that they don't have a thread to participate in after the Nats knock them out.
That does happen sometimes, yeah. I remember in 2003, when our godawful manager Dusty Baker ran our pitching staff ragged, made poor lineup and defensive choices, and overall completely failed at keeping the team focused.
Fortunately, though, for the Cubs, he's moved on and won't be on board to ruin our postseason this year.
Say... where did that meathead end up?
posted by DirtyOldTown at 9:47 AM on October 12, 2016 [12 favorites]
That does happen sometimes, yeah. I remember in 2003, when our godawful manager Dusty Baker ran our pitching staff ragged, made poor lineup and defensive choices, and overall completely failed at keeping the team focused.
Fortunately, though, for the Cubs, he's moved on and won't be on board to ruin our postseason this year.
Say... where did that meathead end up?
posted by DirtyOldTown at 9:47 AM on October 12, 2016 [12 favorites]
I like the way this baseball talk is shaping up already.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 9:50 AM on October 12, 2016 [10 favorites]
posted by MCMikeNamara at 9:50 AM on October 12, 2016 [10 favorites]
Would there be any possibility/interest in threads for the ALCS and NLCS? Mostly I'm worried that Cubs fans will be disappointed that they don't have a thread to participate in after the Nats Dodgers knock them out.
FTFY!
posted by Celsius1414 at 9:50 AM on October 12, 2016
FTFY!
posted by Celsius1414 at 9:50 AM on October 12, 2016
I am not hating Dusty right now, and I'll say I'm as surprised as anyone. That might change if the Dodgers stop hitting Espinosa enough to make up for how terrible he is.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 9:52 AM on October 12, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 9:52 AM on October 12, 2016 [1 favorite]
We've heard from Cubs fans, Nats fans, Dodgers fans... what do the Giants fans think?
OH THAT'S RIGHT. HOW SILLY OF ME.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 9:58 AM on October 12, 2016 [3 favorites]
OH THAT'S RIGHT. HOW SILLY OF ME.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 9:58 AM on October 12, 2016 [3 favorites]
Wait are you saying that Bartman guy isnt to blame for 2003? GASP
posted by wheelieman at 10:03 AM on October 12, 2016
posted by wheelieman at 10:03 AM on October 12, 2016
In Chicago, we call him He Who Must Not Be Named.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 10:04 AM on October 12, 2016
posted by DirtyOldTown at 10:04 AM on October 12, 2016
Even though he had as much as a chance of ruining the team as say....i dont know....a goat
posted by wheelieman at 10:13 AM on October 12, 2016
posted by wheelieman at 10:13 AM on October 12, 2016
I think a general playoffs thread would probably work best, both for this and other (major-league) (American) sports.
posted by Etrigan at 10:13 AM on October 12, 2016
posted by Etrigan at 10:13 AM on October 12, 2016
Ok sorry I am derailing...
posted by wheelieman at 10:14 AM on October 12, 2016
posted by wheelieman at 10:14 AM on October 12, 2016
Also, I will be blunt here: I am not enough of a baseball person to really even know what the structure of the post-season looks like or where we are in it. Mostly I just know that Bob Newhart was posting on twitter last night. So any structured proposal for an alternate threads plan is welcome with a little bit of explicit reasoning behind it.
posted by cortex (staff) at 10:17 AM on October 12, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by cortex (staff) at 10:17 AM on October 12, 2016 [2 favorites]
the structure of the post-season looks like or where we are in it.
There are basically three rounds. The first round (NLDS/ALDS) is wrapping up now.
Next round is the NLCS/ALCS where the two leagues each figure out who goes to the third round, the World Series.
posted by Celsius1414 at 10:22 AM on October 12, 2016
There are basically three rounds. The first round (NLDS/ALDS) is wrapping up now.
Next round is the NLCS/ALCS where the two leagues each figure out who goes to the third round, the World Series.
posted by Celsius1414 at 10:22 AM on October 12, 2016
Why don't you just start an open chat thread for it on the blue, like the politics popcorn and chat threads?
posted by Wolfdog at 10:22 AM on October 12, 2016
posted by Wolfdog at 10:22 AM on October 12, 2016
Basically, we are pending the results of tomorrow's Dodgers/Nationals game. After that, there will be four teams left.
Two teams (the Jays and Indians) face off in the ALCS starting Friday.
The NLCS, featuring the [winner of Nats v. Dodgers tomorrow] vs. the Cubs starts Saturday.
The winner of the ALCS will face the winner of the NLCS in the World Series.
The dates are here:
http://m.mlb.com/postseason-schedule
So now that we're talking about only one thread per series and people seem open to including the next round of playoffs, that would mean just three threads.
1) ALCS Thread (this Friday)
2) NLCS thread (this Saturday)
3) World Series (pending, but scheduled for 10/25)
Does that make sense?
posted by DirtyOldTown at 10:30 AM on October 12, 2016 [1 favorite]
Two teams (the Jays and Indians) face off in the ALCS starting Friday.
The NLCS, featuring the [winner of Nats v. Dodgers tomorrow] vs. the Cubs starts Saturday.
The winner of the ALCS will face the winner of the NLCS in the World Series.
The dates are here:
http://m.mlb.com/postseason-schedule
So now that we're talking about only one thread per series and people seem open to including the next round of playoffs, that would mean just three threads.
1) ALCS Thread (this Friday)
2) NLCS thread (this Saturday)
3) World Series (pending, but scheduled for 10/25)
Does that make sense?
posted by DirtyOldTown at 10:30 AM on October 12, 2016 [1 favorite]
DirtyOldTown: "We've heard from Cubs fans, Nats fans, Dodgers fans... what do the Giants fans think?
OH THAT'S RIGHT. HOW SILLY OF ME."
This Giants fan was #BeliEven up until it was #BeliOver.
It was a long shot, but one we'd hit before.
posted by chavenet at 10:32 AM on October 12, 2016 [1 favorite]
OH THAT'S RIGHT. HOW SILLY OF ME."
This Giants fan was #BeliEven up until it was #BeliOver.
It was a long shot, but one we'd hit before.
posted by chavenet at 10:32 AM on October 12, 2016 [1 favorite]
A-and here is a handy map to follow the rest of them.
posted by chavenet at 10:33 AM on October 12, 2016
posted by chavenet at 10:33 AM on October 12, 2016
Speaking as a yankees fan, you know what they say- the 28th one is the hardest.
posted by jenkinsEar at 12:40 PM on October 12, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by jenkinsEar at 12:40 PM on October 12, 2016 [2 favorites]
The Red Sox are out of it so I just don't see the point of anyone discussing it anywhere. I've flagged this thread as offensive.
posted by bondcliff at 12:45 PM on October 12, 2016 [9 favorites]
posted by bondcliff at 12:45 PM on October 12, 2016 [9 favorites]
Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for small pox.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 1:00 PM on October 12, 2016 [6 favorites]
posted by DirtyOldTown at 1:00 PM on October 12, 2016 [6 favorites]
The only time it's acceptable to root for the Yankees is if they're playing the Giants.
posted by Celsius1414 at 1:03 PM on October 12, 2016
posted by Celsius1414 at 1:03 PM on October 12, 2016
The way I see it, the Yankees have had more of an influence on this year's playoffs than any other team. They decided the playoffs so far back in July when they parted with Andrew Miller who would arguably be the MVP of the ALDS if they gave one with four stellar innings of relief when they most needed to shut down the damn Sawx and Chapman for the Cubs who threw 13 straight fastballs last night averaging 101.6 mph to strike out the side and end the game (after blowing the save the night before).
Had the Yankees decided to keep their two top relievers, who know what would have happened. Add in former Yankee A-Rod along with his sidekicks, the Hit King (Pete Rose) and the Big Hurt (Frank Thomas) and the entire post game Fox lineup of talking heads would be that much more boring.
And, as jenkinsEar pointed out, when all those other teams get to, let's say, 20 World Series wins, let me know. The 28th is the hardest (so far).
posted by AugustWest at 1:34 PM on October 12, 2016
Had the Yankees decided to keep their two top relievers, who know what would have happened. Add in former Yankee A-Rod along with his sidekicks, the Hit King (Pete Rose) and the Big Hurt (Frank Thomas) and the entire post game Fox lineup of talking heads would be that much more boring.
And, as jenkinsEar pointed out, when all those other teams get to, let's say, 20 World Series wins, let me know. The 28th is the hardest (so far).
posted by AugustWest at 1:34 PM on October 12, 2016
I'm nowhere near done being sick of the Yankees as a franchise, let alone the swampy awfulness of their fan culture. But I will admit a bunch of their young up-and-coming players are kinda great and fun to watch.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 1:36 PM on October 12, 2016
posted by DirtyOldTown at 1:36 PM on October 12, 2016
DOT, as a lifelong Yankees fan who lived in Chicago for the better part of 15 years, I can say that I am rooting for the Northsiders. One non working summer, a friend gave me his two season tickets for all of July and August. I sat on the first base side halfway between first base and the foul pole. Two of the most fun months of my life. Got to know all those around me and the vendors selling Old Style too. Lots of Old Style. A real lot of Old Style.
It was perfect foul ball catching territory and every game I would stand and wait while the ball fell a few rows behind or in front of me. Finally, I was at a game with my brother when the ball came towards us. THis time with an Old Style in one hand and a hot dog in the other, I just sat there not wanting to get up futilely once again. I was watching though. The ball hit my brother in his hands and landed in my lap. After wiping off the mustard from the hot dog and taking a big swig of my beer, I held it up to the crowd. I still have that ball. I treasure it almost as much for the memories of that summer as I do for the fact that Gregg Maddox, the HOF pitcher, hit the foul ball.
The ball has scruff marks on it from dropping it as my brother and I walked home down Clark St and after a brief stop at the Cubby Bear and El Jardine for one of those pure grain alcohol margaritas. Oh how I miss Wrigley, the Wrigley of my youth, the Wrigley with no lights, the Wrigley with the business man special games starting at 3:00pm. And how this NYer misses his favorite city, Chicago.
(Special shoutout to the Wiener Circle and the Burwood Tap of the late 80s!)
posted by AugustWest at 2:23 PM on October 12, 2016 [8 favorites]
It was perfect foul ball catching territory and every game I would stand and wait while the ball fell a few rows behind or in front of me. Finally, I was at a game with my brother when the ball came towards us. THis time with an Old Style in one hand and a hot dog in the other, I just sat there not wanting to get up futilely once again. I was watching though. The ball hit my brother in his hands and landed in my lap. After wiping off the mustard from the hot dog and taking a big swig of my beer, I held it up to the crowd. I still have that ball. I treasure it almost as much for the memories of that summer as I do for the fact that Gregg Maddox, the HOF pitcher, hit the foul ball.
The ball has scruff marks on it from dropping it as my brother and I walked home down Clark St and after a brief stop at the Cubby Bear and El Jardine for one of those pure grain alcohol margaritas. Oh how I miss Wrigley, the Wrigley of my youth, the Wrigley with no lights, the Wrigley with the business man special games starting at 3:00pm. And how this NYer misses his favorite city, Chicago.
(Special shoutout to the Wiener Circle and the Burwood Tap of the late 80s!)
posted by AugustWest at 2:23 PM on October 12, 2016 [8 favorites]
Thanks for that reminiscence, AugustWest. Wrigley is far and away the best place I have ever watched baseball; I watched a couple of games there in 1987 (along with one at Comiskey, which was also a great park, RIP), and I could have talked to Bill Robinson (the Mets' first base coach) from my seat if I'd felt like bothering him. It was magical, and I envy Cubs fans their historic ballpark (if not their haunted history).
posted by languagehat at 2:36 PM on October 12, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by languagehat at 2:36 PM on October 12, 2016 [2 favorites]
The Indians and the Cubs withing spitting distance of the World Series? Between that and Trump, I'm going to start hoarding canned goods.
posted by jonmc at 7:15 PM on October 12, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by jonmc at 7:15 PM on October 12, 2016 [3 favorites]
The Red Sox are out of it so I just don't see the point of anyone discussing it anywhere. I've flagged this thread as offensive.
This.
posted by jessamyn (retired) at 7:51 PM on October 12, 2016 [7 favorites]
This.
posted by jessamyn (retired) at 7:51 PM on October 12, 2016 [7 favorites]
2016 has been pretty shitty so far, here's hoping it makes up for it at the end with a Trump defeat and a Cubs world series win. I'm a Tigers fan (sniff) but I always pull for the Cubs in the NL.
posted by axiom at 8:37 PM on October 12, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by axiom at 8:37 PM on October 12, 2016 [1 favorite]
I live in the Greater Toronto Area.
That is all I am willing to say at this juncture.
(My strategy of wearing a Reds cap all season has proven effective at fooling lady luck into letting my team win games. You're welcome, José!)
posted by Sys Rq at 5:04 AM on October 13, 2016 [1 favorite]
That is all I am willing to say at this juncture.
(My strategy of wearing a Reds cap all season has proven effective at fooling lady luck into letting my team win games. You're welcome, José!)
posted by Sys Rq at 5:04 AM on October 13, 2016 [1 favorite]
Typical Yankees fans, have to inject themselves in a thread about a postseason after they placed fourth in a five-team division (and every team ahead of them made the playoffs).
The Jays-Indians series should be fun, they're well matched (and the Shapiro connection gives it extra interest). As a Jays fan since '81, I'm happy to see them keep Cleveland's postseason futility streak alive.
The Cubs-Na/dgers has some good storylines, too. If the Nationals make it, that'll be my proxy Jays/Expos dream matchup. I'd hate to cheer against the Cubs, though.
Separate threads for the two CSs and the WS works best for me. Gotta keep the AL and NL talk separate as long as possible.
posted by GhostintheMachine at 7:24 AM on October 13, 2016
The Jays-Indians series should be fun, they're well matched (and the Shapiro connection gives it extra interest). As a Jays fan since '81, I'm happy to see them keep Cleveland's postseason futility streak alive.
The Cubs-Na/dgers has some good storylines, too. If the Nationals make it, that'll be my proxy Jays/Expos dream matchup. I'd hate to cheer against the Cubs, though.
Separate threads for the two CSs and the WS works best for me. Gotta keep the AL and NL talk separate as long as possible.
posted by GhostintheMachine at 7:24 AM on October 13, 2016
I... I just realized of all the remaining playoff teams, the one with the most recent World Series win is the Blue Jays. I'm not really sure how to process that.
Even by appearance none of these teams have been to the finals in almost 20 years.
posted by GhostintheMachine at 6:20 PM on October 13, 2016
Even by appearance none of these teams have been to the finals in almost 20 years.
posted by GhostintheMachine at 6:20 PM on October 13, 2016
LET'S - GO - DODG - ERS!
👏 - 👏 - 👏👏👏
LET'S - GO - DODG - ERS!
👏 - 👏 - 👏👏👏
posted by Celsius1414 at 10:12 PM on October 13, 2016 [2 favorites]
👏 - 👏 - 👏👏👏
LET'S - GO - DODG - ERS!
👏 - 👏 - 👏👏👏
posted by Celsius1414 at 10:12 PM on October 13, 2016 [2 favorites]
Dave Roberts!
posted by LobsterMitten (staff) at 10:13 PM on October 13, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by LobsterMitten (staff) at 10:13 PM on October 13, 2016 [1 favorite]
Also, I'm told the following fun fact:
Tonight, pitcher Kenley Jansen came in early, then ran out of steam and had to be replaced by starter Clayton Kershaw. Kershaw got a save, his first save since 2006 when he was in the minors. Where he got one save, pitching for the rookie-league Gulf Coast league Dodgers team.... against the Nationals team. His catcher for that game? Kenley Jansen.
posted by LobsterMitten (staff) at 10:20 PM on October 13, 2016 [6 favorites]
Tonight, pitcher Kenley Jansen came in early, then ran out of steam and had to be replaced by starter Clayton Kershaw. Kershaw got a save, his first save since 2006 when he was in the minors. Where he got one save, pitching for the rookie-league Gulf Coast league Dodgers team.... against the Nationals team. His catcher for that game? Kenley Jansen.
posted by LobsterMitten (staff) at 10:20 PM on October 13, 2016 [6 favorites]
This is also the first save of the season for the Dodgers by a pitcher not named Jansen. :D
posted by Celsius1414 at 10:41 PM on October 13, 2016
posted by Celsius1414 at 10:41 PM on October 13, 2016
The Cubs-Na/dgers has some good storylines, too. If the Nationals make it, that'll be my proxy Jays/Expos dream matchup. I'd hate to cheer against the Cubs, though.
The Dodgers have three former Phillies (my team), including two of the most beloved, Carlos Ruiz and Chase Utley. I really hate to cheer against the Cubs, and I won't if they make it to the World Series. I just love my former Phillies. It was especially nice to see former Phils beat the Nats.
posted by gladly at 5:36 AM on October 14, 2016
The Dodgers have three former Phillies (my team), including two of the most beloved, Carlos Ruiz and Chase Utley. I really hate to cheer against the Cubs, and I won't if they make it to the World Series. I just love my former Phillies. It was especially nice to see former Phils beat the Nats.
posted by gladly at 5:36 AM on October 14, 2016
I want to apologize to Nat's fans for conjuring the horrible spectre of Dusty Baker's dream-crushing stupidity. I will give that dark magic the respect it deserves in the future.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 5:49 AM on October 14, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by DirtyOldTown at 5:49 AM on October 14, 2016 [1 favorite]
The Dodgers have three former Phillies (my team), including two of the most beloved, Carlos Ruiz and Chase Utley
Of all the things I'm angry about about last night's game, the silver lining is that Chase Utley didn't beat us. When he was up with the bases loaded I began preparing to unfollow a Phillies fan I know on Twitter, just in case, because I just wouldn't have been able to bear it.
I have no clue if I should even blame Dusty for the madness last night. I don't fault him for sending Max out for the 7th, although I think a lot of managers wouldn't have, and either way he pitched 6 innings and gave up a single run; if you can't win under those conditions, you're not going to win a lot of games. That said, the 7th was a debacle and Epinosa's bunting made me crazy. He's got some power when he's not striking out, let him swing. Ultimately all the double switching really hurt, because it's not a team with a deep, quality bench to go to. The bottom of the 8th was Drew, Espinosa, Severino, and Michael A Taylor it's not shocking we got nothing out of that. The decision to send Werth was obviously boneheaded, but I feel bad for Bob Henley who is getting a lot of grief today (on account of how he's an idiot), but has been with the team a long time. It was a close game, it could have gone the other way. It didn't and it sucks.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 5:59 AM on October 14, 2016 [2 favorites]
Of all the things I'm angry about about last night's game, the silver lining is that Chase Utley didn't beat us. When he was up with the bases loaded I began preparing to unfollow a Phillies fan I know on Twitter, just in case, because I just wouldn't have been able to bear it.
I have no clue if I should even blame Dusty for the madness last night. I don't fault him for sending Max out for the 7th, although I think a lot of managers wouldn't have, and either way he pitched 6 innings and gave up a single run; if you can't win under those conditions, you're not going to win a lot of games. That said, the 7th was a debacle and Epinosa's bunting made me crazy. He's got some power when he's not striking out, let him swing. Ultimately all the double switching really hurt, because it's not a team with a deep, quality bench to go to. The bottom of the 8th was Drew, Espinosa, Severino, and Michael A Taylor it's not shocking we got nothing out of that. The decision to send Werth was obviously boneheaded, but I feel bad for Bob Henley who is getting a lot of grief today (on account of how he's an idiot), but has been with the team a long time. It was a close game, it could have gone the other way. It didn't and it sucks.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 5:59 AM on October 14, 2016 [2 favorites]
This one hurt. This one really hurt.
Yeah - I'm all over a set of NLCS/ALCS and a WS thread.
Meanwhile, I'm going to cry miserably over the Nats loss last night...
posted by Thistledown at 6:20 AM on October 14, 2016
Yeah - I'm all over a set of NLCS/ALCS and a WS thread.
Meanwhile, I'm going to cry miserably over the Nats loss last night...
posted by Thistledown at 6:20 AM on October 14, 2016
> LET'S - GO - DODG - ERS!
👏 - 👏 - 👏👏👏
Flagged as West Coast Yankeeism.
posted by languagehat at 9:04 AM on October 14, 2016 [1 favorite]
👏 - 👏 - 👏👏👏
Flagged as West Coast Yankeeism.
posted by languagehat at 9:04 AM on October 14, 2016 [1 favorite]
The Sox win regardless! The fingerprints of their recent championships can be found everywhere!
LA: DAVE ROBERTS
CHC: Theo, Lester, Ross.
CLE: Francona, Napoli, Crisp
TOR: Kevin Millar's alter-ego, Kevin Pillar. Also that whole stealing Farrell thing.
posted by SpiffyRob at 12:32 PM on October 14, 2016
LA: DAVE ROBERTS
CHC: Theo, Lester, Ross.
CLE: Francona, Napoli, Crisp
TOR: Kevin Millar's alter-ego, Kevin Pillar. Also that whole stealing Farrell thing.
posted by SpiffyRob at 12:32 PM on October 14, 2016
I've posted the ALCS thread - game 1 starts in about 20 minutes.
posted by LobsterMitten (staff) at 4:38 PM on October 14, 2016
posted by LobsterMitten (staff) at 4:38 PM on October 14, 2016
Now I've posted the NLCS thread - game 1 starts in about half an hour.
posted by LobsterMitten (staff) at 4:26 PM on October 15, 2016
posted by LobsterMitten (staff) at 4:26 PM on October 15, 2016
Thanks for the pony, LM. It is a fine pony.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 12:39 PM on October 18, 2016
posted by DirtyOldTown at 12:39 PM on October 18, 2016
I've put up the World Series on Fanfare post.
posted by LobsterMitten (staff) at 4:08 PM on October 25, 2016
posted by LobsterMitten (staff) at 4:08 PM on October 25, 2016
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