New merch: everyone needs a mug July 25, 2018 8:22 AM   Subscribe

Hey, rolling out a new piece of merch today: a big blue mug with the "MF" logo on one side and, on the other, "Note: everyone needs a mug".

Mug!

a blue ceramic mug with 'Note: everyone needs a mug' written on it in white text

This is coming from TopatoCo, where we also have some stickers and t-shirts; you can find a link to all that on the fundraising page, but we'll be working on getting a dedicated merch page in place down the line.

We'll also have some more merch coming along, including real soon now a brand new shirt featuring delightful occult scratchings from robocop_is_bleeding.

But for now: mugs! Go get yourself a mug. If you're so inclined. Ideal for people who consume beverages.
posted by cortex (staff) to MetaFilter-Related at 8:22 AM (123 comments total) 25 users marked this as a favorite

Fantastic!
posted by Ruki at 8:31 AM on July 25, 2018


And a quick hat tip to His thoughts were red thoughts, for their dutiful and ultimately successful campaign to get this slogan on a mug.
posted by cortex (staff) at 8:32 AM on July 25, 2018 [10 favorites]


holding out for the 64-ounce mug
posted by Mo Nickels at 8:34 AM on July 25, 2018 [6 favorites]


If the "MF" gets misinterpreted (you know, as in "Motherfucker"), then this can be cross-posted to the FPP about inappropriate office supplies!
posted by wenestvedt at 8:39 AM on July 25, 2018 [9 favorites]


And on the chance you're wondering "huh, what's that mean though?": there has been for a very very long time a wee note at the bottom of the MetaTalk comment box, reminding folks to be a little chill and kind if possible. It says: "Note: Everyone needs a hug."
posted by cortex (staff) at 8:44 AM on July 25, 2018 [6 favorites]


Should things like this get a nudge via the nag banner at the top of the screen that folks can hide? I vote why not, but others may think it's a bit much.
posted by RolandOfEld at 8:57 AM on July 25, 2018 [1 favorite]


there has been for a very very long time a wee note at the bottom of the MetaTalk comment box, reminding folks to be a little chill and kind if possible. It says: "Note: Everyone needs a hug."

I don't see it. Is it only in some of the themes? Or not on phones?
posted by Margalo Epps at 8:58 AM on July 25, 2018


Oh that's a very nice mug!
posted by Too-Ticky at 8:58 AM on July 25, 2018


YaY !
posted by Faintdreams at 9:09 AM on July 25, 2018


Absolutely L-O-V-E robocop's work. Can't wait.
posted by terrapin at 9:11 AM on July 25, 2018 [1 favorite]


I don't see it. Is it only in some of the themes? Or not on phones?

Oh huh! It turns out it’s not visible on Modern in mobile in, specifically, profile orientation! I had never noticed. It’s there if I turn my phone sideways, and there in desktop certainly. What a weird little detail, I may have frimble fix that!
posted by cortex (staff) at 9:34 AM on July 25, 2018 [12 favorites]


I love this. Chicago folks--if any of you are also interested in a mug let me know and we can split shipping.
posted by phunniemee at 10:06 AM on July 25, 2018 [1 favorite]


Omg I have approximately 900 mugs and yet I NEED THIS.
posted by capricorn at 10:17 AM on July 25, 2018 [3 favorites]


The mug is very nice. (The possibility of someone misunderstanding it is a pure bonus!)

How much is CONUS shipping, anyway? I cant find the cost on their web site.
posted by wenestvedt at 10:26 AM on July 25, 2018


Ordered three. One for me, one for my wife, and one for cat treats for the itinerant cats that visit our deck. Because everyone needs a mug.
posted by Gorgik at 10:30 AM on July 25, 2018 [6 favorites]


Ordered mine to add to my collection.
posted by bjgeiger at 10:35 AM on July 25, 2018


wenestvedt, I think you need to enter your address info in the 'checkout' process to get a shipping rate since it will depend on geography and speed/what method you want. (You can enter an address and it will show you the shipping options before it asks for payment info.)

For a quick sample, I'm on US east coast and seeing just over $7 for 2-day USPS, just over $12 for UPS ground, and higher for other methods. But you may be in a different zone etc.
posted by LobsterMitten (staff) at 10:37 AM on July 25, 2018 [1 favorite]


Ideal for people who consume beverages.

You could also put pens and stuff in it!
posted by Chrysostom at 10:54 AM on July 25, 2018 [2 favorites]


Yaaaaaaaaay!
posted by mochapickle at 11:02 AM on July 25, 2018


You could also put pens and stuff in it!

Ideal for people who consume pens.
posted by rogerrogerwhatsyourrvectorvicto at 11:11 AM on July 25, 2018 [12 favorites]


Ideal for people who consume pens

It's a MF pens beaker
posted by billiebee at 11:30 AM on July 25, 2018 [53 favorites]




For MeFites who weren't around five years ago now, billiebee's comment alludes to an apparatus hygiene issue for which the MF mug could be ideally purposed. Buy one to drink out of, and a second to wash your [redacted]!
posted by Wordshore at 12:02 PM on July 25, 2018 [3 favorites]


"Note: everyone needs a mug"

Alternate usage demonstrated here.
posted by wenestvedt at 12:20 PM on July 25, 2018


Hooray for 16 ounces too!
posted by kimberussell at 12:26 PM on July 25, 2018 [1 favorite]


If anyone needs a mug but cannot afford one, I will happily purchase one for you. This offer applies to the first 5 folks who send me a memail. I'll post again when I've hit the limit. Send me your name/shipping address and I'll take care of the rest. Because everyone really does need a mug.
posted by agatha_magatha at 12:29 PM on July 25, 2018 [27 favorites]


I have never rushed to a website to buy a mug before, but was overjoyed to be able to do so today. Thank you! :D
posted by juliebug at 12:52 PM on July 25, 2018


I ordered mine. Shipping was about $7.

I'm going to cross out hug and write in drug. Drugs not hugs is my motto. I'm really not into being touched much.
posted by cjorgensen at 12:53 PM on July 25, 2018 [4 favorites]


I'm going to cross out hug and write in drug. Drugs not hugs is my motto. I'm really not into being touched much.

There appears to be some hug/mug hugger-mugger here: the mug says mug, not hug. You can still cross out mug, though.

I just wanted to use the word hugger-mugger
posted by zamboni at 1:25 PM on July 25, 2018 [2 favorites]


Yay, the rounded mug shape I requested! Ordered one to be shipped directly to my office. It's only fitting, as this is where I do all my MeFi lurking.
posted by widdershins at 1:28 PM on July 25, 2018 [2 favorites]


Am I the first non-USian to order?

To everyone who made this happen: yay you!
posted by angiep at 2:20 PM on July 25, 2018


Nice shape, nice design. After a hard day just found out one has already been ordered for me. I'm a lucky dog after all.
posted by perrouno at 2:32 PM on July 25, 2018 [2 favorites]


Any NYC folks want to consolidate for shipping?
posted by hoyland at 3:32 PM on July 25, 2018


Got myself a mug. Hooray hooray hooray. :D
posted by Glinn at 3:59 PM on July 25, 2018


Got myself and left a very very funny joke in their order form as requested.
posted by chasles at 7:00 PM on July 25, 2018


> If anyone needs a mug but cannot afford one, I will happily purchase one for you.

If someone else wants a mug and can't afford one, I will sponsor five as well.

If you want hugs, you need to look elsewhere.
posted by cjorgensen at 7:22 PM on July 25, 2018 [12 favorites]


This mug, it vibrates?

Also, it ships to Japan. That's pretty great.
posted by Ghidorah at 7:31 PM on July 25, 2018 [1 favorite]


Mine is on its way! Yay!

At work, do I (a) use the mug I designed myself for the second anniversary of a high-profile work project, that all the people who worked on that project are still carrying around, or (b) a mug that everyone at work who knows me will certainly believe is short for "motherfucker"?
posted by pH Indicating Socks at 7:38 PM on July 25, 2018 [1 favorite]


Mug #5 is spoken for. This has been fun!
posted by agatha_magatha at 8:08 PM on July 25, 2018 [12 favorites]


Gosh but that is a very beautiful mug.
posted by bleep at 8:48 PM on July 25, 2018


I think I just set a personal record between learning of Thing’s existence, to purchasing said Thing. Yay for new things!
posted by msali at 8:53 PM on July 25, 2018 [2 favorites]


Is the person in the reflection cortex, or someone from Topatoco?
posted by zamboni at 8:54 PM on July 25, 2018


TopatoCo! I was not present for product photography, my role in this mostly just involves sending Jeffrey Rowland vector files and asking him several dumb questions while we take turns complaining about the heat.
posted by cortex (staff) at 9:12 PM on July 25, 2018 [4 favorites]


And a quick hat tip to His thoughts were red thoughts, for their dutiful and ultimately successful campaign to get this slogan on a mug.

omg!

V I C T O R Y !

posted by His thoughts were red thoughts at 10:40 PM on July 25, 2018 [21 favorites]


Any NYC folks want to consolidate for shipping?

Like a modern day Tupperware party.
posted by ambrosen at 12:11 AM on July 26, 2018 [1 favorite]


Ooh please say a keychain is in the horizon!

It's really weird seeing images on this site.
posted by like_neon at 2:36 AM on July 26, 2018 [6 favorites]


I posted this question recently, and I think I may have just found a best answer!
posted by Ziggy500 at 2:47 AM on July 26, 2018 [6 favorites]


Yay! Shipping is very reasonable to France, $6.80.
posted by ellieBOA at 3:03 AM on July 26, 2018


If the "MF" gets misinterpreted

I showed the mug to my SO and they scolded me for promoting a gender binary.
posted by pompomtom at 4:26 AM on July 26, 2018 [4 favorites]


Is gender binary? (My latest puppet video.)
posted by cjorgensen at 4:50 AM on July 26, 2018


It's a MF pens beaker

I would buy a MeFi themed muppet character too.
posted by arcticseal at 5:28 AM on July 26, 2018 [2 favorites]


I need a mug.
posted by Her thoughts were mug thoughts at 5:50 AM on July 26, 2018 [9 favorites]


I bought a mug.
posted by Her thoughts were mug thoughts at 5:52 AM on July 26, 2018 [11 favorites]


wait, what?
posted by His thoughts were red thoughts at 5:53 AM on July 26, 2018 [16 favorites]


I didn't opt for express shipping but I hope the mug gets here soon.
posted by Her thoughts were mug thoughts at 6:01 AM on July 26, 2018 [2 favorites]


Looking forward to the new MeFi pint glasses etched with "Everyone needs a chug".
posted by EndsOfInvention at 7:44 AM on July 26, 2018 [13 favorites]


like_neon: "It's really weird seeing images on this site."

You were here before October 22, 2006, though, so it's entirely a foreign concept.
posted by Chrysostom at 7:53 AM on July 26, 2018


It's really weird seeing images on this site.
posted by moonmilk at 8:00 AM on July 26, 2018 [5 favorites]


Oh my god, the typography is AWFUL and completely unexpressive of MeFi. I'm sorry, I really think that is super awful. When can you ask us designers/design students for advice?! We who are interested and can be involved in the design process should be able at least have an option of showing a few different options to the community, right?
posted by yueliang at 8:45 AM on July 26, 2018 [2 favorites]


It's just Classic theme. Classic 4 lyfe!
posted by LobsterMitten (staff) at 8:48 AM on July 26, 2018 [5 favorites]


Yeah, but the Classic theme doesn't even look that ugly! When I talk about typography, I mean the actual way it can all be shaped, aligned and designed. Typography =/= typeface. It's not even kerned properly between the 'r' and the 'y', they are too close together and it is incredibly unbalanced. The 8 biggest typography mistakes designers make
posted by yueliang at 8:50 AM on July 26, 2018 [1 favorite]


Not to say I don't love the mug - I love everything else about it. It's literally Classic theme as a mug. But I am well-aware of the pitfalls of websites that say "hey! just type in some text in the back and it'll be fine!" I took typography classes and spent hours learning tons of new shit that wouldn't have even crossed a layperson's mind, but is really quite crucial to the look and style of a product for maintaining balance and aesthetics in a way that is harmonious. If you are willing to consider my suggestion, I'm down to contribute a new image using the Classic theme font that would be more what I am talking about.
posted by yueliang at 9:05 AM on July 26, 2018


Metafilter: just type in some text in the back and it'll be fine
posted by zamboni at 9:14 AM on July 26, 2018 [4 favorites]


It is, as you say, literally the Classic theme as a mug. It's deliberately a plodding block of untweaked Verdana, riffing on a phrase similarly rendered on the site in a plodding block of untweaked Verdana.

I am unlikely to disagree with you about the merits of good typography etc. but I think you may be reacting to Here Is Thing X with, essentially, "but why didn't you do not-X" in this case and I'm not sure what to say other than, no, this is Thing X on purpose. It's okay if you aren't into Thing X. There will be other things that aren't Thing X. This particular thing is Thing X.
posted by cortex (staff) at 9:16 AM on July 26, 2018 [20 favorites]


Metafilter: this particular thing is Thing X.
posted by moonmilk at 9:18 AM on July 26, 2018 [18 favorites]


Can't wait for the new dark blue MeFi floor covering embroidered with "Everyone needs a rug".
posted by EndsOfInvention at 9:22 AM on July 26, 2018 [12 favorites]


Macready: This particular thing is Thing X
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 9:28 AM on July 26, 2018 [4 favorites]


Metafilter: A plodding block of untweaked Verdana
posted by mochapickle at 9:42 AM on July 26, 2018 [11 favorites]


Also we should sell tiny blue pots with bonzai in them. Everyone needs a shrub.
posted by mochapickle at 9:43 AM on July 26, 2018 [6 favorites]


And plush stuffed bees with classic blue and yellow stripes. Everyone needs a bug.
posted by moonmilk at 10:15 AM on July 26, 2018 [11 favorites]


Metafilter-branded 80s video game: Everyone needs Dig Dug.
posted by Chrysostom at 10:17 AM on July 26, 2018 [10 favorites]


Entemologists: Everyone needs a bug.
Large ships: Everyone needs a tug.
Namco: Everyone needs Dig Dug.

I like the mug a lot and I like that it's Thing X. This whole site is kind of Thing X and I really appreciate that about it. Is there any chance of some shirt designs that are more plain like just a small square "MF" or "MeFi" in the pocket area? I'd buy one that just said "FIAMO" in reasonably small text on a plain shirt.
posted by Clinging to the Wreckage at 10:17 AM on July 26, 2018 [1 favorite]


If there is a water bottle -- because "everybody needs a jug" -- I would recommend Bübi Bottles.

(Also, "MeFi- branded dog adoption: Everbody needs a pug.")
posted by wenestvedt at 10:26 AM on July 26, 2018 [2 favorites]


the Classic theme as a mug. It's deliberately a plodding block of untweaked Verdana

*covers Classic theme's ears*
posted by billiebee at 10:39 AM on July 26, 2018 [12 favorites]


Everyone needs Kerri Strug.
posted by Chrysostom at 10:47 AM on July 26, 2018 [1 favorite]


Person who wants a small private room in the pub: Everyone needs a snug.
posted by ambrosen at 10:52 AM on July 26, 2018 [4 favorites]


Every #1 needs a quidnug.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 10:53 AM on July 26, 2018 [12 favorites]


It's Verdana, every font gets a shrug.
posted by arcticseal at 11:17 AM on July 26, 2018 [2 favorites]


@cortex: My main question is if that slogan was meant to look that different from what the Classic theme comments typeface actually looks like. Classic theme actually renders really well and cleanly on my browser and I'm commenting on how the back of the mug comment doesn't look like that at all (it's a far thinner font, it's a serif font, the mug's quote is designed in a bold sans serif font, the font is disjointed etc in comparison to the nice hierarchy of the Classic theme comments), so I'm responding to what I understand as Classic theme.

"no, this is Thing X on purpose" is genuinely a weak defense for a design decision...In my critique, it doesn't actually look close enough to what I would understand to be on purpose to be, if it is meant to match the Classic theme. But if you were playing it loosely to embody that, then I guess that's fine. But I'm giving my constructive criticism and asking for more what you were thinking.

I also am like, not actually that serious about this and you all can go ahead with that mug type and I'll continue to request that I help design something else (which was not heard or responded to in another thread haha, I think because I posted in a thread that was too old), but I wanted to bring some perspective on that visual decision.
posted by yueliang at 12:10 PM on July 26, 2018


On the second hand, I may need a hug. I think I might just be a little bit frustrated since I would really like to help out on designing merchandise since I feel stupidly passionate about this place. And about typography, and hence that post. Have that mug, I'd like a chance to possibly design another one at least...
posted by yueliang at 12:26 PM on July 26, 2018 [4 favorites]


I may be misunderstanding you, but: if you are see comment text in a serif font, you have set up a custom font in your preferences in Classic and then forgotten that you've done that. Verdana is the default typeface in the Classic theme.
posted by cortex (staff) at 12:27 PM on July 26, 2018 [5 favorites]


@cortex: Really? Well silly of me, sorry to get mad over absolutely nothing. And thanks for being so kind and gracious to respond to that.
posted by yueliang at 12:32 PM on July 26, 2018 [6 favorites]


aaand I might have just completely blown my chances to ever design for MeFi with that slight comment war, oh well. But still, this reminds me to stay ever grateful for this community :)
posted by yueliang at 12:37 PM on July 26, 2018 [4 favorites]


Everyone needs a Grug.
"Grug began his life as the top of a Burrawong tree. Resembling a small, striped haystack with feet and a nose, he is fascinated by the world around him and solves everyday problems creatively and without fuss. When dancing instructions are too difficult to understand, Grug invents his own dance and calls it 'The Grug'. When snails eat his cabbages, Grug plants more cabbages so there will be enough for both him and the snails."
posted by zamboni at 12:48 PM on July 26, 2018 [2 favorites]


"community webmug"
posted by Chrysostom at 12:52 PM on July 26, 2018 [5 favorites]


Shipping is very reasonable to France, $6.80.

I am not in any way complaining, but I want to drop the factoid: It's cheaper to ship a Metafilter mug to France than to California. Feel free to whip that out next time someone makes a MetaTalk post about US-centrism on the site.

And I got a mug a'comin'!
posted by mudpuppie at 1:09 PM on July 26, 2018 [5 favorites]


I would buy a mug with Verdana for MetaFilter. Maybe even Papyrus or Comic Sans, so long as it was kerned correctly.

I dunno if I'd buy a MetaFilter Bübi Bottle. Can it contain hot liquids? Maybe it too is a mug.
posted by Her thoughts were mug thoughts at 1:25 PM on July 26, 2018 [1 favorite]


So interesting thing. I bought several mugs over two days. Yesterday, the mug cost $18 and shipping was $7.94 for USPS. Then today I placed the last two orders (one was non-USAian so doesn't count) and mug was $19.00 and shipping was $6.74--basically the same total, but ?. This is not a complaint--just an odd thing.
posted by agatha_magatha at 1:31 PM on July 26, 2018 [2 favorites]


Her thoughts were mug thoughts: I would buy a mug with Verdana for MetaFilter. Maybe even Papyrus or Comic Sans, so long as it was kerned correctly.

Then I guess you have leamed to kem.
posted by Too-Ticky at 2:23 PM on July 26, 2018 [5 favorites]


What a nice looking mug! As someone who has ordered a *lot* of merch, I approve! Just placed my order.
posted by radioamy at 4:15 PM on July 26, 2018




Other MeFi merch ideas:

Boxing gloves: Everyone needs a thug
Rope: Everyone needs to lug
Carpet: Everyone needs a rug
Pitcher: Everyone needs a jug
Insect spray: Nobody needs a bed bug
USB cables: Everyone needs a plug
posted by His thoughts were red thoughts at 5:23 PM on July 26, 2018 [4 favorites]


I am ridiculously excited to have ordered one!
posted by beandip at 6:57 PM on July 26, 2018


'Tis no mug, but one does what one can.
posted by RolandOfEld at 7:36 AM on July 27, 2018 [1 favorite]


Everyone needs a grog. In a mug.
posted by Greg_Ace at 7:48 AM on July 27, 2018


We should share mugshots when our orders arrive.
posted by schmod at 8:01 AM on July 27, 2018 [2 favorites]


I make tiny Wikipedia pages for all my friends. Everybody needs a stub.

The mug is sold out! Will there be more in the future?

*hugs* for yueliang. This seems like a good time to mention that you're on my casual mental list of Good MeFi Commenters and I'm very pleased you're part of the community!
posted by daisyk at 9:01 AM on July 27, 2018 [4 favorites]


Just saw this and now they are sold out. sad face.
posted by OHenryPacey at 9:56 AM on July 27, 2018


Damn, y’all were thirsty. I’ll put in for a reorder!
posted by cortex (staff) at 10:12 AM on July 27, 2018 [8 favorites]


Cool site - I ended up ordering some silly stuff to send to my bro out in Seattle for his b-day. To answer someone's shipping cost question upthread, for the basic shipping, it was about $3 and change (2-4 days).
posted by sundrop at 11:20 AM on July 27, 2018


Alright, re-order is in place. There's a nice big message on the order page making it clear that it's on backorder; gonna be a couple weeks turnaround for a second run of these before they can start actually shipping 'em out to y'all, but you can order right now if you like.
posted by cortex (staff) at 11:23 AM on July 27, 2018 [3 favorites]


gimme
posted by Justinian at 1:50 PM on July 27, 2018


Hey, rolling out a new piece of merch today: a big blue mug

I'm in love with a big blue mug,
A big blue mug loves me.
It's not as bad as it appears
It wears glasses and is six foot three ...
posted by Melismata at 1:58 PM on July 27, 2018 [2 favorites]


Will they be around for a while? I want one, but can’t order for another week.
posted by Weeping_angel at 5:14 PM on July 28, 2018


omg
posted by Kwine at 5:58 AM on July 29, 2018 [1 favorite]


They'll be around for a while! What we've done is put in another order for six dozen, which'll take the mug folks about two weeks probably to get made and shipped to TopatoCo, who will turn around and start shipping them again. For the time being, you can order before the new supply gets in as well, but that's why there's a big hey it might take a while because we're back ordered message on the order page for now.
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:09 AM on July 29, 2018 [1 favorite]


Is there only ever going to be the one style/size of mug? I never buy oversized ones because they don’t fit in my car cup holder, a dealbreaker. I have a treasured collection of sentimental, standard size/shape mugs that get used frequently and I would love to add a MF one to that rotation.
posted by robotdevil at 4:25 PM on July 29, 2018 [1 favorite]


I intend to mix it up (with mugs, and with merch in general) over time; next one we'll do will address a different set of wants, for sure. I like the idea that there will be a mug that'll work for everyone even if not every mug will work for everyone.
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:32 PM on July 29, 2018 [2 favorites]


You know what they say: You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people with a badly-kerned mug.
posted by EndsOfInvention at 3:06 AM on July 30, 2018 [1 favorite]


Not all of the people, no. But me? Fuck yeah.
posted by Too-Ticky at 9:14 AM on July 30, 2018 [2 favorites]


They’re good mugs Curtox
posted by robotdevil at 9:48 AM on July 30, 2018 [8 favorites]


ITYM rnugs.
posted by Too-Ticky at 1:39 AM on July 31, 2018


Ordered. (It also gave me an excuse to get that pin of Sithrak ("an insane god for an unjust world" has never seemed more appropriate than now) that I've always coveted.)
posted by Halloween Jack at 8:22 AM on July 31, 2018 [1 favorite]


Hm, it looks like maybe the second round of mugs sold out as well and they're not letting any new orders through?
posted by ChuraChura at 8:41 AM on July 31, 2018


next one we'll do will address a different set of wants, for sure.

I'm still waiting for the baseball shirts to come back in the store.
posted by bonehead at 3:12 PM on July 31, 2018 [2 favorites]


Aw, geez, yeah I think the actual mug provisioner is out of stock of that mug model for the moment? Nothing we can do there but wait, unfortunately.
posted by cortex (staff) at 9:05 PM on July 31, 2018


My mug came today! Thank you agatha_magatha for the gift. You are amazing_magazing!
posted by QuakerMel at 6:20 PM on August 2, 2018 [3 favorites]


No more mugs?! I didn’t even have a chance to order one.
posted by His thoughts were red thoughts at 3:22 AM on August 3, 2018


My mug is here and I'll be using it this weekend!
posted by maurice at 11:33 AM on August 3, 2018


While the mugs are on backorder, consider carven eldritch glyphs!
posted by cortex (staff) at 12:20 PM on August 3, 2018


I would also like a mug! (And a hug, but the web platform isn't the best for that.)
posted by madcaptenor at 12:50 PM on August 3, 2018


Yay!
posted by Two unicycles and some duct tape at 2:01 PM on August 4, 2018


I'm just putting this note here that I want a mug so that when the mug is back in stock and presumably someone makes a note about that I will be alerted and have my chance to buy it.
posted by bq at 2:18 PM on August 14, 2018


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