New looks for MeFi May 2, 2003 10:53 PM   Subscribe

MetaFilter. MetaFilter. Bored?
posted by dhartung to MetaFilter-Related at 10:53 PM (45 comments total)

Are those first two jokes? Because they both look, umm... horrible.
posted by XQUZYPHYR at 11:43 PM on May 2, 2003


I don't remember the circumstances, but I'm pretty sure the first one has been posted here before, a long time ago. Can't find the thread though.
posted by justgary at 11:45 PM on May 2, 2003


Here. The first two were Matt's, I think. (I'm not stalking your comments, XQ, just avoiding my work.)

So, not so much things to come as things that never came.
posted by onlyconnect at 12:43 AM on May 3, 2003


New Coke was a bad idea too.
posted by konolia at 5:22 AM on May 3, 2003


If we need one thing, it's more metronome.
posted by Pretty_Generic at 6:35 AM on May 3, 2003


I think those designs are both pretty good, but they could use more cowbell. I gotta have more cowbell!
posted by rusty at 7:36 AM on May 3, 2003


i like those 2 designs quite a bit... not the colours so much, but the layouts are boss. more suited to a personal site than metafilter tho'. the current utilitarian set up is properly functional, even if it isn't my taste.
posted by t r a c y at 8:09 AM on May 3, 2003


Those designs aren't new, I think they've been around for some time. Hasn't everybody already seen them? What am I missing that would make this post make sense?
posted by Hildago at 11:47 AM on May 3, 2003


Wait, I set myself up with that one.
posted by Hildago at 11:48 AM on May 3, 2003


More info here.
posted by betaray at 2:19 PM on May 3, 2003


Are those first two jokes? Because they both look, umm... horrible.

Really? How nice of you to say so Commander Tact.
posted by yerfatma at 2:51 PM on May 3, 2003


*Me and my links are invisible. Because of our superpowers, we also cannot be seen in the current X-Men movie.* *poof*

The two alternate designs were apparently things Matt played with fairly early on but never used. Then Jack over at Metaphilter found them on the web and wondered if they were new prototypes. And dhartung wondered the same thing. Actually, though, they're old. Like this one. /exposition
posted by onlyconnect at 3:18 PM on May 3, 2003


Ahh onlyconnect nice of you to join the conversation :)

sorry about that...
posted by betaray at 3:25 PM on May 3, 2003


I like the second one...

If Matt were to update the current look, I'd vote that he use the second design above.
posted by bshort at 3:42 PM on May 3, 2003


*Wrestles link away from betaray and jumps around with it shouting "mine, mine, mine," puts on head in manner of tiara*

I will try not to be whiny since it was your thread to start with, betaray. :) (I was joking around, really.)
posted by onlyconnect at 4:24 PM on May 3, 2003


Because they both look, umm... horrible.

Anybody else think that's an incredibly rude comment to make about Matt's (ya know, the creator of MeFi) designs? Sheesh, XQ. How would you react if someone commented likewise about your own sense of design?
posted by dhoyt at 5:00 PM on May 3, 2003


Be fair, dhoyt - how the hell was XQ to know they were Matt's designs?
posted by MiguelCardoso at 5:33 PM on May 3, 2003


dhoyt, If you'd like to make a thread about my own site to instigate discussion about it, be my guest. Right now we're not talking about me or my crappy personal website though.

But since this thread was, at least when I first read the FPP, about alleged "alternative looks" of MetaFilter, I voiced my opinion. I think they're horrible designs. The first is just cold and lifeless to me, and the second is almost unreadable considering the white and yellow text over a light blue background. I literally could not read it on the monitor of one of the computers I used today.

Having not known originally, I suppose I'm supposed to recoil in apology now at your revealing to me that Matt made these designs. I love MetaFilter and the discussion on it, but the fact that I now know Matt made them doesn't change my opinion that I don't like them.

I am without a doubt sure that Matt, with exponentially greater knowledge and mastery of every aspect of web design than I, has a portfolio of designs far exceeding two mock-ups. However, I would also venture to guess that designing a new look for a website visited by thousands daily would merit feedback from users about it. My feedback it that the designs are terrible. I'm sorry that you find it rude, but I'm not going to lie.

Matt, or you, or anyone else, doesn't have to accept my opinion, and they certainly don't have to like it. But I had assumed that the creation of a thread about the designs implied, you know, that there would be a conversation about them.
posted by XQUZYPHYR at 5:33 PM on May 3, 2003


Has anyone done a green Metafilter mockup? I like green. What about kitschy seasonal and holiday changes like big brother Google does? I like kitschy seasonal and holiday changes.

"The kitsch [Metafilter]... has aqua-and-white gingham curtains and rubber duck-yellow walls painted in a fried-egg motif" (significanty altered Suzanne Cassidy quote).
posted by hama7 at 6:34 PM on May 3, 2003


how the hell was XQ to know they were Matt's designs?

Well, for starters, they've been discussed in other MeTa threads. Secondly, they're hosted on the frickin' MeFi domain. Thirdly they're located in a folder called /newlook/. I'm no Encyclopedia Brown, but even if I hadn't seen them before I would conclude they were Matt's alternative demo designs for MeFi.

And XQ, it's mind-boggling that you can go back and read your own comment ("Are those first two jokes? Because they both look, umm... horrible") and defend it in a five-paragraph rejoinder rather than simply saying, Yeah, I guess I could've phrased that better. Why not say, "I'm not crazy about them, and here's why", without the dismissive tone? I'm not Commander Tact either much of the time, but you're critiquing the person that built this site you and I are using right now, not some newbie soliciting brutally honest opinions of his first Geocities page.

designing a new look for a website visited by thousands daily would merit feedback

Sure. But it's not like Matt posted the designs to MetaTalk himself and begged for our critiques. They were posted by a third party, most likely without Matt's foreknowledge. It's baffling why the concept of "Don't be a dick to the site admin" should require any elaboration. Geez.
posted by dhoyt at 6:40 PM on May 3, 2003


Indeed, criticizing our leader during this time is a sign of disrespect for our values and the brave members who have sacrificed themselves for the good of this community. If you don't like it then you can just move your ungrateful self elsewhere. Why do you hate Metafilter so much?






OOO SAAAAY CANNN YOU SSEEEEE... BY THE DAWN'S EARRRRRLY LiiiGGGGGHTT....
posted by Stan Chin at 7:04 PM on May 3, 2003


WHAT SO... .. what so... errr...


...

.....
posted by Stan Chin at 7:18 PM on May 3, 2003


*puts arm around Stan*

WHAT SO PROUDLY WE HAIL....
posted by amberglow at 7:19 PM on May 3, 2003


*rushes the court* ...BY THE TWILIGHT's STILL SOMETHING!
posted by mcsweetie at 7:24 PM on May 3, 2003


I love how all MetaTalk threads turn to poo after the first eight or nine comments.
posted by XQUZYPHYR at 7:30 PM on May 3, 2003


*high-fives amberglow*

Yes, XUZYPHR, I love it too.

It's good to see StanChin around, even if he's up to no good as usual. Punching the cock, indeed.
posted by deadcowdan at 7:49 PM on May 3, 2003


Indeed, criticizing our leader during this time...

The terrorists have won.
posted by ashbury at 8:02 PM on May 3, 2003


XQUZYPHYR, you ignorant slut.
posted by ashbury at 8:03 PM on May 3, 2003


and i always thought that was a reddish-brown moustache dhoyt was wearing...
posted by quonsar at 8:05 PM on May 3, 2003


god damn that made me laugh out loud.
posted by PrinceValium at 8:49 PM on May 3, 2003


Metapop is green.
posted by hama7 at 9:12 PM on May 3, 2003


*rustles up two julep, puts arm round hama7 and breaks into an impromptu rendition of this classic song on the travails of being a little conservative in a bright red poppy field of Big Lefties*
posted by MiguelCardoso at 9:58 PM on May 3, 2003


and i always thought that was a reddish-brown moustache dhoyt was wearing...

Ha. Very funny. Good times, good times. Etc. But if someone had posted links to comps of your site, and someone else had given a mean-spirited criticism I'd defend you, too. It sucks to have your work considered "horrible" by a total stranger whose feedback was never requested.

I love how all MetaTalk threads turn to poo after the first eight or nine comments.

Actually, it only took one.
posted by dhoyt at 10:09 PM on May 3, 2003


*" I am green and it'll do fine, it's beautiful!
And I think it's what I want to beeeee..."*

Nice strong juleps, Miguel. Perfect for a warm spring afternoon.
posted by hama7 at 10:38 PM on May 3, 2003


dhoyt, I'm getting a page error when I try to click your attempt to insult me.
posted by XQUZYPHYR at 11:07 PM on May 3, 2003


I think they both look pretty fucking cool.

XQYGJSBGKHD, you're an idiot.
posted by pemulis at 11:41 PM on May 3, 2003


But has anybody ever taken Mathowie aside and pointed out to him that the MeFi logo is... how can I put it delicately... rather 'swoosh-like'??
posted by wendell at 2:45 AM on May 4, 2003


Look, another petty argument has broken out on MeTa! My day here is complete. Somebody let me know when the next petty "big deal" comes along.
posted by ashbury at 7:05 AM on May 4, 2003


I can't imagine why dhoyt doesn't like XQUZYPHYR !
posted by mcsweetie at 8:06 AM on May 4, 2003


I liked the the second example, except for the metro[g]nome and the color to the right of the metro[g]nome. Actually, a gnome would be better in place of the metronome. Please, I don't want a reminder of my piano lessons! ok, the "metafilter" wordmark needs a rethink. Something more prominent to that background at the top. It's not all bad. Really. Just, parts of it.

I have a bias for 40% Cyan as my corporate brand color is that, so it's all good. It seems fresh and spring like with the lime.

I also liked the original Burninglogs version OTOH. Throw in some acorns and oak leaves! Solid.
posted by alicesshoe at 11:08 AM on May 4, 2003


Armatron!

I used to have one of those.
posted by Mars Saxman at 1:10 PM on May 4, 2003


those designs are from early 2000, and I never used them because they weren't any better (in many ways, much worse) than the original design.

There were others I made as a joke, like the propaganda one. I distinctly remember Ev Williams begging me to replace the blue metafilter with this yellow one.

For the record, I don't care too much if people love or hate these designs, you're simply getting a peek at my sketchbook. They were never made live because they weren't quite up to snuff, and after four years with the same design (though these were all made back in early 2000), I strongly doubt I'll ever change the site greatly.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 1:27 PM on May 4, 2003


Metafilter: I'm getting a page error when I try to click your attempt to insult me.
posted by eddydamascene at 2:08 PM on May 4, 2003


Anybody else think that's an incredibly rude comment to make about Matt's (ya know, the creator of MeFi) designs?

We love the leader!
posted by inpHilltr8r at 3:28 PM on May 4, 2003


Yeah ok, but where do I get my smock and hoe?
posted by walrus at 4:28 AM on May 9, 2003


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