Not peeing on external sites August 22, 2003 3:11 PM   Subscribe

can we all just agree not to pee all over external sites of meFi users? it's really obnoxious and extremely petty.
posted by xmutex to Etiquette/Policy at 3:11 PM (53 comments total)

posted by carfilhiot at 3:33 PM on August 22, 2003

What's this about, aside from the insomnyuk/skallas set-to?
posted by timeistight at 3:37 PM on August 22, 2003

Would that imply peeing on MeFi is OK?
posted by namespan at 3:44 PM on August 22, 2003

Did someone do something to your site, xmutex?
posted by iconomy at 3:51 PM on August 22, 2003

What's this about, aside from the insomnyuk/skallas set-to?

y2karl (or someone posting under that name) recently wrote something dumb on someone's blog, in relation to a comment they wrote on MetaFilter about y2karl. So someone said "y2karl is a poopy head" at metafilter and it looks like y2karl said nothing on metafilter but instead went to the other person's site to say "nuh uh, you're a poopy head".

I ended up deleting all the dumb comments (the original one included) because they derailed the thread.

I agree with the "grow up, people" all around.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 3:53 PM on August 22, 2003

I did it to xmutex a couple of days ago. It was extremely petty. It was rude and immature and I am totally ashamed of myself. He meant me no harm and I did him a great disservice. I wrote him nasty emails and he wrote me back. I apologized profusely. Or at least I thought I did. I thought he accepted my apology. I have the emails and I will post them if allowed. Why bring it up after all that? That, to me, is petty, too.
posted by y2karl at 3:55 PM on August 22, 2003

Unless someone else has spoofed me. In that case--it wasn't me.
posted by y2karl at 3:56 PM on August 22, 2003

He didn't write back nasty emails, by the way--I falsely accused him of derailing my thread and causing a pile on. It wasn't his intention, he was just funning. I said I was sorry then. I thought we had gotten it settled.
posted by y2karl at 4:00 PM on August 22, 2003

Did I micturate on your website, Mr. Lebowski?
posted by kirkaracha at 4:03 PM on August 22, 2003

This wasn't really in direct response to that, y2k, we had it settled. I just wanted to make a general statement after the skallas/insomnyuk thing. A plea.
posted by xmutex at 4:09 PM on August 22, 2003

Bah. You people are all stuck in the past. Everyone knows the future is in static websites. They're totally pee-proof.
posted by Galvatron at 4:12 PM on August 22, 2003

Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 15:37:30 -0700
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From: "y2karl"
To: "wells oliver"
Subject: RE: dude
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And I'm sorry about what I said on your blog--I was
being intentionally mean. You write fine.

Well, OK, I didn't profusely apologize exactly.

I got an 'It's all good' back. I thought this was settled. I don't know, maybe I've done this to someone before but I can't remember doing it. I am not going to do it again. Man, I was embarrassed before xmutex for doing it in the first place and now I am embarrassed all over again in front of you all. Why the humiliation, xmutex?

posted by y2karl at 4:12 PM on August 22, 2003

Can't you guys wait till we get to the gas station?
posted by konolia at 4:12 PM on August 22, 2003

Oh, I didn't see that. Still...
posted by y2karl at 4:13 PM on August 22, 2003

if i may withdraw my 'whatever' after reading the posts.

First skallas is a dumbass - most people by the time they reach about 16 or so have learnt how to deal with people who piss them off, my recommended tactic is to IGNORE the person. His constant whining is to be quite honest fucking pathetic.

The y2karl post, kicked off with a few comments on his use of 'pop up thingies' (yeah we all agree they suck, except y2k that is). After which y2karl acted like a arrogant prick for the rest of the post. Hey most of us know who pekar is, if you want to discuss a movie that you are really into, why not try imdb, it's fantastic, i promise you.

the self-importance that some people on metafilter attach to themelves and their posts is quite funny. yeah, i know we are all guilty, cause posting is the same as listening to your own voice 90% of the time, but sometimes it gets outta hand.
posted by carfilhiot at 4:15 PM on August 22, 2003

All this digression into specific incidents is diverting us from the obvious fact that xmutex is totally on target with this request. Let's keep it in the paint, shall we?

"You can tell the size of the man by the size of the thing that makes him mad."
posted by scarabic at 4:21 PM on August 22, 2003

Metafilter: really obnoxious and extremely petty.
posted by Johnny Assay at 4:31 PM on August 22, 2003

It's all very simple, people: don't be a whistle ass. That is all.
posted by scody at 4:31 PM on August 22, 2003

I was just tryin' to say... can't we all get along?

I'll buy ice cream.
posted by xmutex at 4:36 PM on August 22, 2003

Okay, let's all settle on a flavor. I say Rocky Road. Anyone who disagrees is a liberal twinkie.
posted by Stan Chin at 4:38 PM on August 22, 2003

I have my faults and I do stupid things. But I own up to them. I apologized to xmutex off-site for what happened offsite and now I get humiliated in public. I would not do this to another person, had that person apologized to me and we made up. I'm just sayin'...
posted by y2karl at 4:43 PM on August 22, 2003

And what's all this have to do with the white house website?
posted by timeistight at 4:49 PM on August 22, 2003

I'm a liberal twinkie, I want Double Chocolate Fudge!
posted by billsaysthis at 5:10 PM on August 22, 2003

I have to say that I've written and erased without posting about 2 dozen messages to y2karl today.

I'm doing my part, is all I'm saying.
posted by crunchland at 5:10 PM on August 22, 2003

crunchland - can you do MY part as well? I'm not sure I'm up to it.
posted by jonson at 5:17 PM on August 22, 2003

timesight-- I was trying to capture the essence of obnoxious with a URL.
posted by xmutex at 5:32 PM on August 22, 2003

Back not so long ago when I was more frequently insulting to GWB and America in general at Metafilter, I would often see incoming hits almost immediately after making such a coment at my site coming from my profile here, if I cared to look, often followed by threats and insults, generally anonymous but obviously from MetFites or MeFi readers, in various comment threads there. It was always disappointing, but never entirely surprising.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:36 PM on August 22, 2003

That was before my first cup of coffee. Syntax up-screwing excuse the me.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:55 PM on August 22, 2003

Oh, crap--it's no big deal. I just don't have an elephant hide and take things personally when I shouldn't. I was mean to xmutex the day before yesterday, which I regret. His point is well taken.

Sheesh. What a short fuse I have sometimes. And you wonder why I identify with Harvey Pekar.

Upon review: crunchland, I have done you no harm, nor have you done harm to me. I've erased my messages to you before they were written. I may be a hothead but you are not currently on my shitlist. I would like it to stay that way. No harm, no foul--No?
posted by y2karl at 5:57 PM on August 22, 2003

I'd answer, but I'm too busy deleting anything I might write.
posted by crunchland at 6:29 PM on August 22, 2003

y2karl still owes me an explanation too.
posted by crunchburger at 6:35 PM on August 22, 2003

I want an apology too I mean, if everyone else is getting one.
posted by LittleMissCranky at 8:14 PM on August 22, 2003

Here's an explanation I owe everyone: I manage an apartment building. It's not fancy but it's clean and well kept. The owner is a great guy but a bit on the cranky side. We have a horrible vacancy rate here. In person, I am incredibly laid back and don't get on people when they fall behind in rent like I should. I don't yell.

I rented an apartment to a couple of barely twenty fuckwits, who, long story short, are managing to get their asses evicted. That's 7 years they won't be able to rent where they do a credit check. Do they care? Not apparently.

Another 20 something couple with a kid just split up and the guy split town last week on the day before he was supposed to catch up on his late rent. Because of the first set of fuckwits, the owner--who's a great guy--is fed up and taking no prisoners. I gave a 3 day to the kid who was out of town. It's up. He just came in town and left me a note saying he'd pay on the 28th. It doesn't work that way.

He doesn't pay by Monday, it's the rent plus attorney's fees to stay. Big buckeros. The first set of fuckwits can get a hold of the girlfriend who moved out with her kid. She's on the lease, too. But they aren't bothering to... All these kids have new cellphones and I can't get the numbers from their friends or information.

I seem like an arrogant touchy asshole here but in real life, I'm a laid back stay-out-of-your-face hands off guy. I am trying to get these idiots to realize they are taking down their friends with them but they just don't get it. I have lost it and finally screamed. They show me attitude. I am trying to get a hold of these other poor kids--the split up couple--because they have a baby. They have so much to lose. I am going fucking nuts I am so stressed out.

I go out and badger all their friends when they come by, who just dummy up and don't listen 'cause I'm the Man, and come in and go online to unwind. I go out again when I see someone who knows them--do this off and on all day for the last three days. I can't get a hold of anyone. I don't know where his new girlfriend lives, let alone the one that moved out. I am frazzled and worried and wound up tighter than a drumhead. It has come out here in a very major way.

Now I have to go yell at assholes #1 again so I might be able to save not quite assholes #2 from the same fate. I hate renting to kids--we only did because there's been so few people looking--I hate it. I am never doing it again.

My point?

There is always a back story, on why people are the way they are here.

Just sayin'...
posted by y2karl at 9:11 PM on August 22, 2003

y2karl - in all sincerity, that sounds ugly, and I'm sorry to hear it. Hope things settle down a little.
posted by jonson at 9:19 PM on August 22, 2003

same here, you vile pimp for the landowner class, you.
posted by quonsar at 9:32 PM on August 22, 2003

Keep it on mefi.

posted by insomnyuk at 9:54 PM on August 22, 2003

Here's a story I heard Robbie Robertson tell at conference:

The Band played at Watkins Glen, which was a post-Woodstock music festival. Watkins Glen, like most of the festivals of that era, was held in a field in the pouring rain.

The stage at this event was quite high – over six feet – and during the Band's set kids kept trying to climb out of the mud onto the stage. Bill Graham, the impresario, would run over and step on the kids fingers every time he saw them getting purchase on the stage. When Robertson called him on it Graham said, "You can't coddle them forever, Robbie."
posted by timeistight at 11:01 PM on August 22, 2003

This thread and the previous one by skallas are, I believe, strong evidence AGAINST requiring the posting email addresses and personal website URLs in profiles.

If you do post either, then you should accept whatever you receive.
posted by mischief at 11:12 PM on August 22, 2003

{puff puff} - oooommffff-wahhhhhh

posted by Witty at 2:14 AM on August 23, 2003

y2karl, get out of the rental business. I have it on good authority it'll drive you nuts.
posted by konolia at 5:39 AM on August 23, 2003

I wish that the people who didn't like y2karl could resist the temptation to crap all over a thread because he participated in it.

The Harvey Pekar discussion was getting interesting -- as illustrated by these comments by faze and y2karl -- but it was quickly smothered by the kind of petty personal squabbling for which e-mail was invented.
posted by rcade at 7:36 AM on August 23, 2003

Here's hoping it works out for the best, Karl. We all lose our cool. Mercifully, too, most of us seem to recover and keep pushing. Good luck.
posted by dhoyt at 8:57 AM on August 23, 2003

Let me link to this, then, and hope that some good cancels out some bad. I think that jonson and y2karl can and will (and maybe already have) settle their differences like the intelligent, decent people that they are, and then we can all get back to the important things, like posting links to good stuff and making interesting comments and observations.
posted by iconomy at 9:23 AM on August 23, 2003

the kind of petty personal squabbling for which e-mail was invented

I thought it was for spreading viri and spam.
posted by timeistight at 9:50 AM on August 23, 2003

LittleMissCranky -

I'm sorry for not apologizing to you earlier for something I haven't done.

I humbly ask for your forgiveness.
posted by Stynxno at 10:21 AM on August 23, 2003

me too.
posted by dabitch at 2:16 PM on August 23, 2003

Why do they call it Ovaltine? The mug is round. The jar is round. They should call it round tine.
posted by poopy at 2:53 PM on August 23, 2003

It's golden, Jerry, GOLDEN!!
posted by jonson at 4:05 PM on August 23, 2003

'Sorry just doesn't cut it with this Pope'
posted by i_cola at 4:38 AM on August 24, 2003

Damnit, I just signed a lease on an apartment. Why didn't you tell me about all these vacancies? Having y2karl as an apartment manager would be awesome. All hearing like Jimmy Rogers or like Son House or something playing at 2am, all researching long posts about late 19th-century Christian Diabolism or like the fascinating history of the velocipede together. 25-page, extensively cross-referenced memos in the mailbox whenever there was a fumigation notice. Oh, hell yes.

But basically, yeah, it is not cool to take the fight to someone else's doorstep. Keep it on metafilter, I say. But also it is not cool to make a big deal out of it when it happens. It's not like anybody has stabbed anybody else with a knife.
posted by Hildago at 8:51 AM on August 26, 2003

If someone DOES stab someone with a knife, however, feel free to post about it.
posted by jonson at 9:05 AM on August 26, 2003

Someone stabbed someone with a knife!
posted by languagehat at 12:10 PM on August 26, 2003

Was anyone's hand cut off? Cause if so, I've got a suspect!!
posted by jonson at 12:27 PM on August 26, 2003

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