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Official tank04 Is A Dick Thread
posted by Pretty_Generic to Etiquette/Policy at 6:40 PM (76 comments total)

verily.
posted by amberglow at 6:52 PM on November 29, 2004


verily, verily. Life is but a dream.
posted by jonmc at 6:54 PM on November 29, 2004


Actually, tank04 is A Nick...
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 6:56 PM on November 29, 2004


Please read the rules and FAQs before posting?
posted by Colloquial Collision at 6:57 PM on November 29, 2004


thread to be deleted... but what will happen to my words should I comment here? are they to vanish simply into the void, the grayness that stretches on forever, making the fear grasp you from within and make you let out a bloodcurdling scream that will never be heard?
posted by Krrrlson at 6:57 PM on November 29, 2004


yeah, krrlson, that's more or less what'll happen. What can ya do?
posted by jonmc at 6:59 PM on November 29, 2004


tank04 intended to make money by posting his own site. Is he banned, and if not why not?
posted by Pretty_Generic at 7:01 PM on November 29, 2004


How was he sussed out? What's the story?
posted by helcat at 7:04 PM on November 29, 2004


He was banned. I noticed ads for the hot sauce place in our own textad system and in blogads and thought "wow, that's great a new user found a hook for that store to something interesting" but noticed it was just sort of plugging the service in a few links. So I checked whois and low and behold Nick owns the URL.

He didn't think it was fair, so I updated the post a link page to make it clear. I suspect he'll sign up again to promote his sites, but I suspect they'll be easy to spot, like this one was.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 7:08 PM on November 29, 2004


Drawing and quartering is too good for him.
posted by helcat at 7:10 PM on November 29, 2004


mathowie has the moderating power of 10 tigers.

Who can use JRun.
posted by Pretty_Generic at 7:12 PM on November 29, 2004


Oh, burn.
posted by punishinglemur at 7:22 PM on November 29, 2004


Who can use JRun.

Ummmmm.....
posted by JRun at 7:30 PM on November 29, 2004


Official tank04 Is A Dick Thread

Also know as Official Link to the Deleted FPP Thus Providing the Very Free Advertising Deleting the Link Was Meant to Prevent Thread.
posted by XQUZYPHYR at 7:34 PM on November 29, 2004


Oh, burn.

Damn you, Verdana!
posted by Pretty_Generic at 7:36 PM on November 29, 2004


He certainly wasn't very clever about it, using his real name in his profile.
posted by tellurian at 7:37 PM on November 29, 2004


"By the way, if anyone here is in marketing or advertising...kill yourself. Thank you. Just planting seeds, planting seeds is all I'm doing. No joke here, really. Seriously, kill yourself, you have no rationalisation for what you do, you are Satan's little helpers. Kill yourself, kill yourself, kill yourself now. Now, back to the show. Seriously, I know the marketing people: 'There's gonna be a joke comin' up.' There's no fuckin' joke. Suck a tail pipe, hang yourself...borrow a pistol from an NRA buddy, do something...rid the world of your evil fuckin' presence."
Bill Hicks

And just today, I think, I said very few people get banned from just one offense. So long, fuckwit.
posted by scarabic at 7:38 PM on November 29, 2004


Nice catch, btw, mathowie.
posted by scarabic at 7:39 PM on November 29, 2004


self-linking, that's a paddlin'.
posted by PrinceValium at 7:40 PM on November 29, 2004


Also know as Official Link to the Deleted FPP Thus Providing the Very Free Advertising Deleting the Link Was Meant to Prevent Thread.

I don't buy from self-linkers.
posted by DrJohnEvans at 7:45 PM on November 29, 2004


Good eye, Matt.


G'day, mate

posted by Hildago at 7:47 PM on November 29, 2004


Oh yeah! Operation: Get Yo' Ban On is in the motherfucking house!

Admit it, you really want a product called 'Rectal Rocket Fuel?'
posted by kamus at 7:54 PM on November 29, 2004



Admit it, you really want a product called 'Rectal Rocket Fuel?'


well, uh, yeah.
posted by quonsar at 8:20 PM on November 29, 2004


Imagine a hot sauce so delicious that we'd dare to call it Painful Rectal Itch.
posted by soyjoy at 9:06 PM on November 29, 2004


Can God make a hot sauce so hot even He gets painful rectal itch?
posted by interrobang at 9:13 PM on November 29, 2004


can god make a gerbil bigger than his own colon?
posted by quonsar at 9:22 PM on November 29, 2004


Let's play Word Association!

Sweat spice hot pepper prostitute gangbang prison rape.
posted by five fresh fish at 9:58 PM on November 29, 2004


Mmm, salsa. I bet there are many other places, some on the net, where one can find and purchase a large variety of hot sauces without inadvertently supporting Mr. Lindauer's rude behavior. Buying salsa but spurning Lindauer would be appropriate punishment, I think. Years ago, long ago, I worked at the Coyote Cafe's "General Store" in Santa Fe. They had the most extraordinarily wide selection of salsas and we were encouraged to sample them. Which we did. The habanero, considered by many to be the hottest chile, I discovered makes a very, very good salsa if you can stand the heat.

Texans seem to have some silly fascination with the jalapeño, which is relatively hot but doesn't have that great a flavor; but I'll say the one thing I quite liked and became accustomed to living in Texas were chipotle salsas. Chipotles are smoked jalapeños. I bet a smoked habanero salsa would be good, too. For that matter, so too probably would be one using one of the New Mexico chiles which here are commonly simply referred to as chile verde or, in English, "green chile". Unless they're red.

Which also brings to mind an excellent dinner I had years ago at the "Rancher's Club", which is in the Hilton near downtown Albuqerque. I'll skip mentioning the grilled clams we had for an appetizer, which are worth mentioning and instead describe the grilled strips of green chile I had as a side dish as being simply wonderful. I'd not had green chile (the chile, not the dish) as an unadorned side-dish before then, but it was marvelous.

Finally, the substance which makes chiles hot is fat soluble and not water soluble. This is why drinking water or similar doesn't much help. But why milk does. For those of you with more delicate palates.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 2:42 AM on November 30, 2004


thanks for the capsaicin link, EB
posted by matteo at 3:07 AM on November 30, 2004


Newman's Own Pineapple Salsa! Woo!
posted by nthdegx at 5:10 AM on November 30, 2004


it's also alcohol soluble, i believe. that's my excuse, anyway.
posted by andrew cooke at 5:12 AM on November 30, 2004


Ethereal Bligh - Smoked habaneros, if you can stand the heat, do make incredible sauces. I'm just now finishing off a case of hot sauce made with hardwood smoked habaneros and honey. I'd post a link, but the guy that makes it just does it as a hobby, unfortunately. I'll be picking up another case or two at next year's Virginia Wine Festival.

Oh, and nthdegx - not that it is relevent to this thread, but Newman uses high fructose corn syrup in his other products, so it is only a matter of time until he kills that salsa, too.
posted by bh at 7:26 AM on November 30, 2004


I won't enter a kitchen that doesn't have at least one bottle of El Yucateco in it.
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 7:28 AM on November 30, 2004


This brings to mind an scrumptious dinner I had months ago at the "Farmer's Club", which is in the Holiday Inn near suburban Taos. I'll forgo mentioning the boiled clams we had for an appetizer, which are worth pointing out, and instead describe the sautéed strips of red chile I had as the main course as being simply remarkable. I'd not had red chile (the dish, not the chile) as an unadorned meal before then, but it was extraordinary.
posted by moift at 7:33 AM on November 30, 2004


I'll forgo mentioning the boiled clams we had

Good thing you didn't mention them! ;)
posted by cortex at 7:42 AM on November 30, 2004


I do know one thing for sure.
posted by Pretty_Generic at 7:43 AM on November 30, 2004


"Hello, Mr. Hicks, it's the marketing department at MegaCorp records. Highlighting that anti-Marketing rant really gave you a nice sales bump...we're here to help Mr. Hicks..."
posted by jonmc at 7:50 AM on November 30, 2004


I don't think Bill's answering his phone these days.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 7:52 AM on November 30, 2004


EB, I'm thoroughly impressed with your firm grasp on the obvious.
posted by jonmc at 7:53 AM on November 30, 2004


Well, someone has to grasp the obvious.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 7:54 AM on November 30, 2004


PinkStainlessTail - have you tried their Caribbean habanero sauce yet? I haven't been able to find it locally, and I was thinking about ordering some.
posted by bh at 7:58 AM on November 30, 2004


[grasps obvious, works hand back and forth]
posted by orange swan at 9:12 AM on November 30, 2004


have you tried their Caribbean habanero sauce yet?

Sadly no.
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 9:13 AM on November 30, 2004


this is exactly what I was talking about in that metatalk thread a few days ago... it's X-mas time and the shills are out! Usually I don't think they're that blatant, but greed got the best of him (he could have included links to some other hot sauces as well and people probably wouldn't have noticed)
posted by chaz at 9:32 AM on November 30, 2004


Chipotles are indeed excellent, as EB says, but for obvious reasons it's often misspelled "chipolte," so bear that in mind when googling or otherwise searching.
*thinks about chicken with chipotle sauce, drools*
posted by languagehat at 9:37 AM on November 30, 2004


Penzeys Ground Chipotle Pepper is spice shaker heaven.
posted by y6y6y6 at 9:56 AM on November 30, 2004


What's the obvious reason that it's often misspelled "chipolte"?

But, yeah, chipotles are good. I've never much liked jalapeños, except on nachos. They're too strident—not in terms of heat, but flavor. But smoking them into chipotles really rounds the flavor right out. But I suspect I'd like just about anything better smoked.

In most of Austin's supermarkets is available a locally produced chipotle pesto. You know, in the refrigerated fresh(er) pasta and fixins area that you see these days. That chipotle pesto on cheese tortellini is just damn good.

That habanero sauce, bh, sounds fantastic. Habaneros really do have an excellent flavor and make excellent salsas.

On Preview: y6, that does look great and it is sorta cheating, huh? But it would be handy. *puts it in xmas list*.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 10:00 AM on November 30, 2004


What's the obvious reason that it's often misspelled "chipolte"?

Most likely because people unfamiliar with Spanish tend to pronounce it chipolte instead of chipotle. I've got a coworker who is obsessed with the burrito chain that's been eating there for years and still can pronounce it correctly.
posted by Ufez Jones at 10:20 AM on November 30, 2004


"People tend to do it" isn't exactly a reason.
posted by scarabic at 11:04 AM on November 30, 2004


No, I think it makes sense. They find it difficult to pronounce, so they mispronounce it and then spell it as they mispronounce it. I just wasn't aware that people had a hard time with pronouncing the word.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 11:05 AM on November 30, 2004


But I would guess that if the spelling comes from the pronunciation, one temptation to pronounce it wrong is: fewer syllables.

Chi-po-tul-ay is how I pronounce it, and that's 4

Even with the same number of syllables, 3, the American mouth tries to avoid hard stops between two neighboring consonants. It's a lazy mouth thing.

Chi-pot-lay is 3 syllables
Chi-pol-tay is also 3, but it doesn't have that hard stop between the second and third syllable. Your tongue can roll straight from an L to a T quite fluidly, but not so the reverse.

But I know enough about linguistics to know that there's probably a better reason that I can't hope to understand, and all of this is just me talking out of my ass, which pronounces Chipotle quite differently again.
posted by scarabic at 11:12 AM on November 30, 2004


Sorry - I got mixed up on preview, but my question was more, "okay, if they misspell it because they mispronounce it, then why do they mispronounce it?"
posted by scarabic at 11:14 AM on November 30, 2004


Your tongue can roll straight from an L to a T quite fluidly, but not so the reverse.

This is exactly right. Although we do have words with -tl- between vowels in English (atlas, for example), the reverse is much more common and thus easier for English-speakers, most of whom will look at chipotle and read it as "chipolte" (and say and write it that way) unless they're paying close attention.
posted by languagehat at 11:37 AM on November 30, 2004



Your tongue can roll straight from an L to a T quite fluidly, but not so the reverse.


you'd be surprised at what my tongue could do. and probably revolted.
posted by quonsar at 1:48 PM on November 30, 2004


Most likely because people unfamiliar with Spanish tend to pronounce it chipolte instead of chipotle. I've got a coworker who is obsessed with the burrito chain that's been eating there for years and still can pronounce it correctly.

Spanish speakers have problems with it too since it's a Nahuatl word.
posted by vacapinta at 2:32 PM on November 30, 2004


Although I did learn to say Parangaricutirimicuaro
posted by vacapinta at 2:37 PM on November 30, 2004


Ah, but do you call (African) Thai peppers bird's eyes, piri-piri, or peri-peri?
Do you say hungarian wax, or banana pepper?
Do you jamberry your tomatillos?
posted by Smart Dalek at 3:00 PM on November 30, 2004


Do you jamberry your tomatillos?

only when i'm alone.
posted by quonsar at 3:11 PM on November 30, 2004


Chipotle is the new cilantro.

And I am driven into a rage whenever I hear the phrase "smoked chipotle."

I am unhealthy.
posted by stet at 3:19 PM on November 30, 2004


out of curiousity, how do slander laws work in cyberspace? unexplored territory?

oh. wait. sorry. some cursory research reveals it's supposedly 'libel'.

seriously though. i don't mean to upbraid anyone here -- do what you like! -- but i'm just wondering.

(because i really really want to talk some shit about.. oh.. let's say. .. CHARLES KEMPMASON.*)

* made up name to protect billy mcpherson's identity.
posted by fishfucker at 3:44 PM on November 30, 2004


You know you've gone too far when the voice of reason is named fishfucker.

Kids, you can cool it slagging Nick. I don't think it was entirely an honest mistake, but I give people the benefit of the doubt and maybe it was just a bit overzealous. Still not lifting the ban, but I don't abide by the attempts at google slams.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 4:02 PM on November 30, 2004


Besides, posts about hot sauce are so January 2002.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 4:47 PM on November 30, 2004


well, he does work for an internet traffic-boosting company... so I'd say he knew exactly what he was doing.
posted by chaz at 5:14 PM on November 30, 2004


Believe me, Matt, my employer is in the business of selling traffic to online merchants, and they are, as a category, some of the sleaziest sleaze ever to sleaze you in the sleaze. Many of them move up to SEO because they get so damn good at it. Maybe this guy isn't bait-and-switching grey market camera equipment out of a Brooklyn warehouse, but he does want to pepper spray your grandma. What is up with that?
posted by scarabic at 5:22 PM on November 30, 2004


MetaFilter: Where the voice of reason is named fishfucker.

Google Slam 2004: The biggest MeFi grudge matches live on Pay Per View!
posted by wendell at 5:30 PM on November 30, 2004


I wonder what Billy Maulana is up to.
posted by turaho at 5:37 PM on November 30, 2004


There is something strangely sexual about the term "Google Slam". Like, baby, welcome to the internet. You've never been Google slammed like this before. Open your pipes baby, here comes some transfer.

I don't even know if that makes sense, but I'm probably drunk!!!
posted by Kleptophoria! at 5:52 PM on November 30, 2004


some of the sleaziest sleaze ever to sleaze you in the sleaze

scarabic, that is a great line and i am totally stealing it.
posted by casarkos at 8:41 PM on November 30, 2004


People! Can we please focus on what's important? jonmc just insulted Bill Hicks, of all people! I mean, seriously, who makes fun of Bill Hicks? It's like hatin' on Gandhi!
posted by Simon! at 8:43 PM on November 30, 2004


Bill Hicks wasn't funny, OK? Get the fuck over it.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 9:12 PM on November 30, 2004


*gasp*
posted by bshort at 9:52 PM on November 30, 2004


But how would you know, crash? ;)

I've made my peace with the Hicks haters. But jonmc is just a hick I hate to pieces.
posted by scarabic at 10:05 PM on November 30, 2004


MetaFilter: Open up your pipes, baby, here comes some transfer.
posted by SpecialK at 10:40 PM on November 30, 2004


One thing I'm really sick of seeing in online discussions is "Get over it." Seriously, just relax.
posted by knave at 9:17 AM on December 1, 2004


you got a right purty mouth, scarabic.....
posted by jonmc at 9:28 AM on December 1, 2004


[K-THUNK!]

Whew! Thanks, Lewis.

;)
posted by scarabic at 11:51 AM on December 1, 2004


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