to put it on metafilter as a profound single-link post is ridiculous

December 10, 2005 12:12 PM

"This is so obviously a retarded fabrication that to take it seriously is an admission of gullibility beyond measure, and to put it on metafilter as a profound single-link post is ridiculous."
posted by monju_bosatsu to Etiquette/Policy at 12:12 PM (41 comments total)

And now it's twice as ridiculous.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 12:12 PM on December 10, 2005

Well if it was posted twice, it must be true, right?
posted by Saucy Intruder at 12:13 PM on December 10, 2005

I seriously object to the use of "retarded", it's offensive. I may even open a MeTa thread about it
posted by matteo at 12:20 PM on December 10, 2005

and, what Saucy said
posted by matteo at 12:20 PM on December 10, 2005

Sorry, but insane bullshit is okay on the Blue.
posted by selfnoise at 12:28 PM on December 10, 2005

Who knows whether it is right or wrong. That is the problem with the article itself. However, stating that it is clearly wrong is just as bad as stating that it is correct. It is unsupported and comes from a questionable source. A lot of Capitol Hill Blue stuff has been deleted in the past, and I am surprised this one stayed, but how do you know it is a fabrication?
posted by caddis at 12:29 PM on December 10, 2005

Yep. As usual, if the politics were reversed there would be no way that there wouldn't be immediate and loud cries for deletion. As it is, commenters pretty much agree that the claim itself is BS—but few have complained about the post itself. Although, you're not supposed to do it in the thread anyway. But this meta post was a long time in coming.

I have to admit it was sort of a thrill to see and believe this sort of thing. That Bush thinks this way is credible to me. But that doesn't make it a good post.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 12:29 PM on December 10, 2005

You just ruined a LOT of erections.
posted by Krrrlson at 12:51 PM on December 10, 2005

hey guys, who here like SHOWTUNES?

CLANG CLANG CLANG GOES THE TROLLEY....
posted by keswick at 12:55 PM on December 10, 2005

but how do you know it is a fabrication?

one can never really know for certain that anything is a fabrication, but there is absolutely zero evidence for this claim, and it sounds completely ridiculous. Even if deep inside, Bush feels something along these lines, the possibility that he would yell out to a room of advisors that he doesn't give a shit about the constitution is a)extremely unlikely and b)shocking enough that if it actually happened it would get coverage from credible media.
posted by mdn at 12:57 PM on December 10, 2005

hey guys, who here like SHOWTUNES?

SPRINGTIME FOR HITLER AND GEEEERMANY!!!
posted by Krrrlson at 1:17 PM on December 10, 2005

And of course, now the people who dare to challenge this baseless rant are accused of being paid operatives in service of some unnamed party.

Seriously, this madness deserves all the condemnation it can get. If ParisParamus deserves it, so do these clowns.
posted by [expletive deleted] at 1:32 PM on December 10, 2005

Seriously, this madness deserves all the condemnation it can get. If ParisParamus deserves it, so do these clowns.
posted by [expletive deleted] at 1:32 PM PST on December 10 [!]

And they got. Both here and in the deleted thread.
posted by juiceCake at 1:44 PM on December 10, 2005

Since it's no longer appropriate to refer to mentally or developmentally disabled people as "retarded," and all civilized people have long since disengaged such use of the word, can't we just reclaim "retarded" for use as a general pejorative indicating low intelligence?
posted by scarabic at 2:03 PM on December 10, 2005

Since it's no longer appropriate to refer to African Americans as "niggers", and all civilized people have long since disengaged such use of the word, can't we just reclaim "nigger" etc etc

;)
posted by matteo at 2:09 PM on December 10, 2005

I didn't comment in either thread because the post is terrible, the article is terribly sourced, and it's all-around bullshit.

(take note witty, dios, paris)
posted by Optimus Chyme at 2:11 PM on December 10, 2005

In support of scarabic's point, terms that refer to people with disabilities do seem to move from formal usage, to pejorative usage, and then are eventually appropriated for general usage and are no longer strictly associated with people with disabilities. See, for example, idiot , moron, and simpleton. We might be in that final transitional phase with "retarded."
posted by found missing at 2:15 PM on December 10, 2005

I'm just glad I'm not from Crete.
posted by sciurus at 2:27 PM on December 10, 2005

found missing; I think it's ok for a retarded person to call other people retarded. For example, somebody once told me I'm retarded, so now I call you "retarded."
posted by gsb at 2:42 PM on December 10, 2005

we're all retarded niggers on this bus.
posted by quonsar at 2:51 PM on December 10, 2005

oh quonsar!
posted by keswick at 3:08 PM on December 10, 2005

*cue laugh track*
posted by Rothko at 3:11 PM on December 10, 2005

That's not funny. I am a retarded nigger.
posted by found missing at 3:59 PM on December 10, 2005

It's true. Even handicapped is deprecated now. I don't think there is a new global term to replace it. This is a good thing. People with down's are people with down's. People with learning disabilities have learning disabilities, etc.

matteo - you are one funny nigger!
posted by scarabic at 4:30 PM on December 10, 2005

Handicapable?
posted by Gator at 4:36 PM on December 10, 2005

Differently abled?

In related news, mad people are now "differently sane."
posted by clevershark at 4:38 PM on December 10, 2005

This goddamned piece of paper! This goddamned piece of paper! I'm wiping! I'm wiping with this goddamned piece of paper!
posted by jenovus at 4:47 PM on December 10, 2005

*writes "retarded nigger" on a goddamned piece of paper*
posted by jonmc at 5:03 PM on December 10, 2005

Now you're all going to have to start enumerating your black acquaintances itt, lest someone think you're racists.
posted by moift at 5:08 PM on December 10, 2005

*cues laugh track*
posted by Rothko at 5:12 PM on December 10, 2005

This thread is about retarded niggers, Rothko, not you. Wait, carry on.
posted by moift at 5:16 PM on December 10, 2005

*laughs*
posted by Rothko at 5:33 PM on December 10, 2005

Y'all just a bunch of honkaloids.
posted by Gator at 5:36 PM on December 10, 2005

not me. I'm a drunk paddy and a greasy wop. Get your terminology straight.
posted by jonmc at 5:40 PM on December 10, 2005

Ig'nant Guinea Mick.
posted by Gator at 5:42 PM on December 10, 2005

I resent your glip sterotyping.

*slugs whiskey, hires relative to whack Gator*
posted by jonmc at 5:44 PM on December 10, 2005

That's retarded guinea mick.

(That's my mix too, btw)
posted by terrapin at 5:50 PM on December 10, 2005

top o' the mornin', paisan.
posted by jonmc at 6:07 PM on December 10, 2005

Well, this has certainly turned out well.
posted by soyjoy at 7:18 PM on December 10, 2005

you're sofa king wee todd did.
posted by jewzilla at 7:24 PM on December 10, 2005

it sounds completely ridiculous. Even if deep inside, Bush feels something along these lines, the possibility that he would yell out to a room of advisors that he doesn't give a shit about the constitution is a)extremely unlikely and b)shocking enough that if it actually happened it would get coverage from credible media.

mdn, I admit there's no credible source for this in particular, but I gotta say: What century are you living in?

I mean, have you been keeping track of the sort of stuff Bush has been documented as saying/doing, and the brouhaha that has resulted (not) from it?
posted by soyjoy at 7:33 PM on December 10, 2005