AskMe Policy January 12, 2006 5:06 PM Subscribe
I'm as much for self-induced liver damage as the next guy, but some questions should not be answered. And thus, should not be asked.
Well, answered in a way that the asker intended, that is.
posted by Saucy Intruder at 5:10 PM on January 12, 2006
posted by Saucy Intruder at 5:10 PM on January 12, 2006
"Should not be asked?" Which of these two hypothetical situations would you prefer? This one:
MeFite: I want to do something really dangerous and stupid. How do I do it?
Hordes of Concerned AskMe Citizens: No! Stop! You're an idiot! Don't do it!
MeFite: Hm. Perhaps I should reconsider. Thanks, everybody!
or this one:
MeFite: I want to do something really dangerous and stupid, but they won't like me asking about it on AskMe, so I'll just go ahead and do it.
Evening News Talking Head: Local idiot kills self in stupid fashion. Film at 11.
posted by Faint of Butt at 5:12 PM on January 12, 2006
MeFite: I want to do something really dangerous and stupid. How do I do it?
Hordes of Concerned AskMe Citizens: No! Stop! You're an idiot! Don't do it!
MeFite: Hm. Perhaps I should reconsider. Thanks, everybody!
or this one:
MeFite: I want to do something really dangerous and stupid, but they won't like me asking about it on AskMe, so I'll just go ahead and do it.
Evening News Talking Head: Local idiot kills self in stupid fashion. Film at 11.
posted by Faint of Butt at 5:12 PM on January 12, 2006
paging scarabic: eponysterical?
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 5:14 PM on January 12, 2006
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 5:14 PM on January 12, 2006
eponysterical?
Indeed. I value the contributions of both Saucy Intruder and puke & cry to this thread.
posted by Faint of Butt at 5:17 PM on January 12, 2006
Indeed. I value the contributions of both Saucy Intruder and puke & cry to this thread.
posted by Faint of Butt at 5:17 PM on January 12, 2006
He's splitting the shots with a friend. It seemed like a really straightforward, even legal, question.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 5:31 PM on January 12, 2006
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 5:31 PM on January 12, 2006
2 people, 12 hours, 26 shots.
1 person, 12 hours, 13 shots.
Many men could metabolize a shot an hour (especially with food and water). Why shouldn't this question be asked?
posted by birdie birdington at 5:32 PM on January 12, 2006
1 person, 12 hours, 13 shots.
Many men could metabolize a shot an hour (especially with food and water). Why shouldn't this question be asked?
posted by birdie birdington at 5:32 PM on January 12, 2006
eponysterical?
Thought you were talking about the asker, dabradfro -- sorta like "the frat bro," spoken after downing 26 shots.
posted by donpedro at 5:35 PM on January 12, 2006
Thought you were talking about the asker, dabradfro -- sorta like "the frat bro," spoken after downing 26 shots.
posted by donpedro at 5:35 PM on January 12, 2006
Puke & Cry should be the only member allowed to respond to the question since that's how the whole thing is going to end.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 5:41 PM on January 12, 2006
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 5:41 PM on January 12, 2006
Yeah, after dabradfo posted the clarification about splitting the drinks with a friend I'd have to side with birdie birdington. It's one drink an hour. It still seems like a goofy idea, though.
posted by fixedgear at 6:06 PM on January 12, 2006
posted by fixedgear at 6:06 PM on January 12, 2006
I made the Century Club in college. If Mefi had existed then, I'm sure I would have felt the compassion and concern.
I love you guys! *sniff*
posted by bardic at 6:24 PM on January 12, 2006
I love you guys! *sniff*
posted by bardic at 6:24 PM on January 12, 2006
I made the Century Club in college.
We called it 'centurion'. I held the UBC record as far as I could determine (152 shots of beer in 152 minutes) for a couple of years a long long time ago. I went out drinking with my less-hardy companions after I was done. I was proud of it, at the time. I was also dumber than a post then, in even more ways than I am now.
Nonetheless, 13 shots of liquor in 13 hours, even now at my advanced age and decrepitude, would leave me feeling sober and bored. People have different tolerances to alcohol (and most other drugs, for that matter).
Pointless, nannying thread. Don't like it, no sir, I don't.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 7:02 PM on January 12, 2006
We called it 'centurion'. I held the UBC record as far as I could determine (152 shots of beer in 152 minutes) for a couple of years a long long time ago. I went out drinking with my less-hardy companions after I was done. I was proud of it, at the time. I was also dumber than a post then, in even more ways than I am now.
Nonetheless, 13 shots of liquor in 13 hours, even now at my advanced age and decrepitude, would leave me feeling sober and bored. People have different tolerances to alcohol (and most other drugs, for that matter).
Pointless, nannying thread. Don't like it, no sir, I don't.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 7:02 PM on January 12, 2006
In my hometown, "Centurion" was 100 beers in a three day weekend. Many tried, few succeeded.
I never tried, therefore, I never failed.
posted by ColdChef at 7:14 PM on January 12, 2006
I never tried, therefore, I never failed.
posted by ColdChef at 7:14 PM on January 12, 2006
I should mention, also, that while 100 beers would be too cost-prohibitive for most teenagers, adult sponsorship was scarily available. Kind of turned it into a spectator sport.
posted by ColdChef at 7:16 PM on January 12, 2006
posted by ColdChef at 7:16 PM on January 12, 2006
Puke & Cry should be the only member allowed to respond to the question since that's how the whole thing is going to end.
I do have some experience in this. I haven't had 40 ounces in 12 hours, but I've had about 30 ounces of vodka in 4 hours, also 20 ounces of crown royal in about 3-4 hours. I was sick for about 3 weeks and my doctor thought I had diabetes. I don't recommend that.
posted by puke & cry at 7:38 PM on January 12, 2006
I do have some experience in this. I haven't had 40 ounces in 12 hours, but I've had about 30 ounces of vodka in 4 hours, also 20 ounces of crown royal in about 3-4 hours. I was sick for about 3 weeks and my doctor thought I had diabetes. I don't recommend that.
posted by puke & cry at 7:38 PM on January 12, 2006
I went to grad. school where the undergrads did a 4th year 5th (handle of liquor in a day).
It was a spectator sport, but also a death sentence for a few of them--literally. I'm glad the practice died down, but a few die-hards won't let it go.
Me doing 100 shots of beer in 100 minutes? Good old fashioned puking for a night, morning, and afternoon. No harm no foul.
posted by bardic at 7:44 PM on January 12, 2006
It was a spectator sport, but also a death sentence for a few of them--literally. I'm glad the practice died down, but a few die-hards won't let it go.
Me doing 100 shots of beer in 100 minutes? Good old fashioned puking for a night, morning, and afternoon. No harm no foul.
posted by bardic at 7:44 PM on January 12, 2006
funny enough, I could handle all the liqour but I couldn't do 60 shots of beer in 60 minutes. Beer makes me queezy.
posted by puke & cry at 7:50 PM on January 12, 2006
posted by puke & cry at 7:50 PM on January 12, 2006
Oh, yeah, and it was Canadian beer, not that low-alcohol girly American piss. (I'm feeling fiesty and thirsty -- it's Friday afternoon...)
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 7:53 PM on January 12, 2006
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 7:53 PM on January 12, 2006
You guys are really, really men.
posted by _sirmissalot_ at 7:56 PM on January 12, 2006
posted by _sirmissalot_ at 7:56 PM on January 12, 2006
What I want to know is how many bottles of a decent Côtes du Rhône (my favorite) you could polish off in, say, six hours?
posted by _sirmissalot_ at 7:58 PM on January 12, 2006
posted by _sirmissalot_ at 7:58 PM on January 12, 2006
And you have to talk about Literature for the duration.
posted by _sirmissalot_ at 8:01 PM on January 12, 2006
posted by _sirmissalot_ at 8:01 PM on January 12, 2006
26 "shots" is not 40oz of liquor. A lot of those "shots" will amount to about a third of a drink, mixed with something sweet, or carbonated, or milk.
My point is, only 2 or 3 of those answers actually mention Chicago, or bars. The whole thread is a derail based on someone's imagined alcoholism or deathwish or something.
Look, imagine that he asked "My friends and I want to drink the alphabet, one beverage per week over the course of half a year, in Chicago. What bars should we go to?" Answer that.
posted by staggernation at 8:19 PM on January 12, 2006
My point is, only 2 or 3 of those answers actually mention Chicago, or bars. The whole thread is a derail based on someone's imagined alcoholism or deathwish or something.
Look, imagine that he asked "My friends and I want to drink the alphabet, one beverage per week over the course of half a year, in Chicago. What bars should we go to?" Answer that.
posted by staggernation at 8:19 PM on January 12, 2006
It's nice how yet another AxMe post gets half of its comments cut out.
posted by bshort at 8:24 PM on January 12, 2006
posted by bshort at 8:24 PM on January 12, 2006
I'm not gonna drink any fucking Merlot, that's for sure.
posted by bardic at 8:26 PM on January 12, 2006
posted by bardic at 8:26 PM on January 12, 2006
Misguided sanctimonious do-gooders ruin AskMe. Business as usual. News at eleven.
posted by IshmaelGraves at 8:51 PM on January 12, 2006
posted by IshmaelGraves at 8:51 PM on January 12, 2006
This is like one bottle of voddie... what's the bloody problem?
posted by pompomtom at 8:56 PM on January 12, 2006
posted by pompomtom at 8:56 PM on January 12, 2006
Would have saved a lot of trouble, and got way better answers, if he'd just asked the whole question from the beginning.
Why do people do this 'sort of amibigious outline of kinda what I'm doing and want to know' thing? You can ask as big a question as you want, you even get an automatic 'more inside'.
His qualifiers and clarifications made a huge difference to the tone of the question, even to the moaniing-minnies who'd previously been begging him not to try.
That said, even with his original question, I'm not sure I agree with the call-out. Actually, I'm sure I don't agree with it.
posted by The Monkey at 8:57 PM on January 12, 2006
Why do people do this 'sort of amibigious outline of kinda what I'm doing and want to know' thing? You can ask as big a question as you want, you even get an automatic 'more inside'.
His qualifiers and clarifications made a huge difference to the tone of the question, even to the moaniing-minnies who'd previously been begging him not to try.
That said, even with his original question, I'm not sure I agree with the call-out. Actually, I'm sure I don't agree with it.
posted by The Monkey at 8:57 PM on January 12, 2006
He should have just asked about matching liquors to the alphabet. The cardinal lesson of AskMe seems to be, "If you explain why you're asking, you invite 1,001 busybodies to second-guess your judgment and derail your thread with their two-bit soapboxes."
Basically, AskMe can be a valuable resource in limited capacity — but treat respondents like children, because that's how they'll behave.
posted by cribcage at 9:49 PM on January 12, 2006
Basically, AskMe can be a valuable resource in limited capacity — but treat respondents like children, because that's how they'll behave.
posted by cribcage at 9:49 PM on January 12, 2006
I am really getting tired of people who think AskMe is only for questions they personally approve of.
posted by mediareport at 10:02 PM on January 12, 2006
posted by mediareport at 10:02 PM on January 12, 2006
Fer christ's sake. Can't we have any fun around here? I like complaining about the bar on drug-related questions, but a bar on alcohol related questions? Come on!
If people wanted an opinion on the health risks of doing 26 shots they'd ask a bloody doctor. The question had no mention of the time span over which they would accomplish this project. Nothing about doing it in a single night. Maybe they were going to do A-J one weekend and K-Z the next. Maybe they were going to do one shot every two weeks for a year. Do people just like to get a bitch in and highlight their own moral superiority around here, or what?
posted by Jimbob at 10:06 PM on January 12, 2006
If people wanted an opinion on the health risks of doing 26 shots they'd ask a bloody doctor. The question had no mention of the time span over which they would accomplish this project. Nothing about doing it in a single night. Maybe they were going to do A-J one weekend and K-Z the next. Maybe they were going to do one shot every two weeks for a year. Do people just like to get a bitch in and highlight their own moral superiority around here, or what?
posted by Jimbob at 10:06 PM on January 12, 2006
Do people just like to get a bitch in and highlight their own moral superiority around here, or what?
They look for excuses to do it, really. It's AskMe's biggest flaw right now.
posted by mediareport at 10:17 PM on January 12, 2006
They look for excuses to do it, really. It's AskMe's biggest flaw right now.
posted by mediareport at 10:17 PM on January 12, 2006
They look for excuses to do it, really.
Yes. A question with "no mention" of wrongdoing is an easy enough target for the sanctimony dealers, but some will go so far as to accuse the poster of lying in order to create an opportunity to waggle their finger at someone over the internet.
posted by scarabic at 10:28 PM on January 12, 2006
Yes. A question with "no mention" of wrongdoing is an easy enough target for the sanctimony dealers, but some will go so far as to accuse the poster of lying in order to create an opportunity to waggle their finger at someone over the internet.
posted by scarabic at 10:28 PM on January 12, 2006
You guys are really, really men.
some will go so far as to accuse the poster of lying in order to create an opportunity to waggle their finger at someone over the internet.
Heh. I was waggling something over the internet in this thread, but it wasn't my finger.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 10:38 PM on January 12, 2006
some will go so far as to accuse the poster of lying in order to create an opportunity to waggle their finger at someone over the internet.
Heh. I was waggling something over the internet in this thread, but it wasn't my finger.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 10:38 PM on January 12, 2006
After moving to a new city, I tried restaurants by going through the alphabet, A-Z.
I guess I got lucky that I survived, what without an AskMe thread to assist!
posted by I Love Tacos at 10:44 PM on January 12, 2006
I guess I got lucky that I survived, what without an AskMe thread to assist!
posted by I Love Tacos at 10:44 PM on January 12, 2006
I agree with stavros.
I do think the tone of askme has shifted more and more toward increasingly arrogant preaching and chastising... and what I think of as "plastic bag" instructions: "do not use this plastic bag as a toy; do not attempt to ingest this plastic bag; do not place plastic bag over head".
Is it a meme, in the sense that readers see other users doing the supernanny thing, and so also adopt that tone?
posted by taz at 11:21 PM on January 12, 2006
I do think the tone of askme has shifted more and more toward increasingly arrogant preaching and chastising... and what I think of as "plastic bag" instructions: "do not use this plastic bag as a toy; do not attempt to ingest this plastic bag; do not place plastic bag over head".
Is it a meme, in the sense that readers see other users doing the supernanny thing, and so also adopt that tone?
posted by taz at 11:21 PM on January 12, 2006
We've had this argument before. Answer the question as asked. Don't make assumptions. Don't judge. Don't preach. If someone wants to know bars with good spirits collections, don't give them a lecture on liver failure. If you disagree with the moral implications behind the question, leave the thread well alone.
posted by Jimbob at 11:29 PM on January 12, 2006
posted by Jimbob at 11:29 PM on January 12, 2006
Seems like this place has gotten full of whiney little scaredy-cats lately. How tiresome.
posted by delmoi at 11:40 PM on January 12, 2006
posted by delmoi at 11:40 PM on January 12, 2006
26 shots is nothing. What a bunch of fucking prudes. Assuming you go to the bar at 10ish and don't get done til 3 am (reasonable assumption for Chicago bar scene, ne?) that's five shots an hour. That's assuming you don't even start til 10. Consider also the fact that many liquors vary in alcohol content, with most of the sort mentioned either at 80 proof or below. Easy. 26 shots is nothing.
Trying to drive after 26 shots, on the other hand, now THAT'S a challenge.
posted by tweak at 11:43 PM on January 12, 2006
Trying to drive after 26 shots, on the other hand, now THAT'S a challenge.
posted by tweak at 11:43 PM on January 12, 2006
Could someone please answer the poor person's question? There are currently no names of Chicago pubs, in that thread, well-stocked or not.
posted by lemur at 12:47 AM on January 13, 2006
posted by lemur at 12:47 AM on January 13, 2006
Dear puritan freak-beings,
Please leave the rest of the world alone.
Thankyou.
posted by flashboy at 3:47 AM on January 13, 2006
Please leave the rest of the world alone.
Thankyou.
posted by flashboy at 3:47 AM on January 13, 2006
Damn, I love the drink.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:06 AM on January 13, 2006
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:06 AM on January 13, 2006
Is it a meme, in the sense that readers see other users doing the supernanny thing, and so also adopt that tone?
and of course once someone is being sanctimonious about their pet topic, someone else will try to come along and take the piss out of them, and the cycle continues.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 6:06 AM on January 13, 2006
and of course once someone is being sanctimonious about their pet topic, someone else will try to come along and take the piss out of them, and the cycle continues.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 6:06 AM on January 13, 2006
"After moving to a new city, I tried restaurants by going through the alphabet, A-Z.
I guess I got lucky that I survived, what without an AskMe thread to assist!
posted by I Love Tacos at 11:44 PM MST on January 12 [!]"
All-A-Taco
Bueno Tacos
Chachi's Tacos
Don Juan's Tacos
etc.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 6:56 AM on January 13, 2006
I guess I got lucky that I survived, what without an AskMe thread to assist!
posted by I Love Tacos at 11:44 PM MST on January 12 [!]"
All-A-Taco
Bueno Tacos
Chachi's Tacos
Don Juan's Tacos
etc.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 6:56 AM on January 13, 2006
I was just trying to find a bar that would have the most different kinds of alcohol in the Chicagoland area for a fun night out with the guys.
posted by dabradfo at 7:57 AM on January 13, 2006
posted by dabradfo at 7:57 AM on January 13, 2006
This is the Nth AskMe thread of late that has had a number of judgmental douchbags pissing all over an AskMe they disliked because they are unable to simply flag & ignore a question.
That doesn't surprise me so much as the fact that jess and matt have left so many of these garbage answers in the thread. What's going on with that? It made the most marginal of sense in polystark's question to leave some of them, given the fact that the question had an emotional reaction component. But this one?
This answer might have some value, though it doesn't actually answer the question asked. After that there's all these garbage posts still stinking up the place. I can't even blame these people for being jerks - why SHOULDN'T they be when the clear message is that this crap is tolerated?
AskMe is going to continue to suck more and more as long as the iron fist of deletion is on winter break.
posted by phearlez at 10:06 AM on January 13, 2006
That doesn't surprise me so much as the fact that jess and matt have left so many of these garbage answers in the thread. What's going on with that? It made the most marginal of sense in polystark's question to leave some of them, given the fact that the question had an emotional reaction component. But this one?
This answer might have some value, though it doesn't actually answer the question asked. After that there's all these garbage posts still stinking up the place. I can't even blame these people for being jerks - why SHOULDN'T they be when the clear message is that this crap is tolerated?
AskMe is going to continue to suck more and more as long as the iron fist of deletion is on winter break.
posted by phearlez at 10:06 AM on January 13, 2006
Dear AskMe: Should I abort Satan's baby?
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 11:26 AM on January 13, 2006
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 11:26 AM on January 13, 2006
delmoi writes "Seems like this place has gotten full of whiney little scaredy-cats lately."
I've been doing my part to thin the gene pool, only this week I recommended anhydrous ammonia to de stink a fridge.
posted by Mitheral at 12:00 PM on January 13, 2006
I've been doing my part to thin the gene pool, only this week I recommended anhydrous ammonia to de stink a fridge.
posted by Mitheral at 12:00 PM on January 13, 2006
AskMe is going to continue to suck more and more as long as the iron fist of deletion is on winter break.
Sorry I went on vacation the same time as mathowie, I'm back now and he is too.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 12:08 PM on January 13, 2006
Sorry I went on vacation the same time as mathowie, I'm back now and he is too.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 12:08 PM on January 13, 2006
Does that mean the fisting will recommence?
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 12:11 PM on January 13, 2006
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 12:11 PM on January 13, 2006
"Go see a doctor"
"Go hire a lawyer"
"Don't eat that"
"You're an alcoholic, stop drinking"
"Smoking's bad for you"
"Drugs are bad, m'kay"
Sheesh.
If it hurts when you do that, stop doing that. Screw Johnny Law, it's time to get out of dodge. I'll eat what I want, what's it to you that I'm fat. I like drinking and no, five drinks in one session isn't "binge" drinking. Smoking is the only reason why my coworkers haven't met grisly deaths. Sex, drugs, and rock and roll baby!
posted by PurplePorpoise at 12:12 PM on January 13, 2006
"Go hire a lawyer"
"Don't eat that"
"You're an alcoholic, stop drinking"
"Smoking's bad for you"
"Drugs are bad, m'kay"
Sheesh.
If it hurts when you do that, stop doing that. Screw Johnny Law, it's time to get out of dodge. I'll eat what I want, what's it to you that I'm fat. I like drinking and no, five drinks in one session isn't "binge" drinking. Smoking is the only reason why my coworkers haven't met grisly deaths. Sex, drugs, and rock and roll baby!
posted by PurplePorpoise at 12:12 PM on January 13, 2006
jessamyn : "Sorry I went on vacation the same time as mathowie, I'm back now and he is too."
Hey! You don't see Bush and Cheney taking vacations at the same time, do you?
posted by graventy at 1:02 PM on January 13, 2006
Hey! You don't see Bush and Cheney taking vacations at the same time, do you?
posted by graventy at 1:02 PM on January 13, 2006
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posted by puke & cry at 5:09 PM on January 12, 2006