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I don't see what The Blunt Atheist FAQ has to do with conversions.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:11 PM on January 27, 2006
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:11 PM on January 27, 2006
Honestly... if I post it as a comment into that thread, it turns the thread into "my lack of knowledge about god is better than your god", which is dumb.
If I post it to the front page, it can generate conversation about those particular beliefs.
I won't post it as a comment, because I truly think that would be inappropriate from all points of view.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:15 PM on January 27, 2006
If I post it to the front page, it can generate conversation about those particular beliefs.
I won't post it as a comment, because I truly think that would be inappropriate from all points of view.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:15 PM on January 27, 2006
Maybe it should have been titled and worded differently? As an athiest, evem I saw it as a direct attack on the previous thread author.
posted by melt away at 12:16 PM on January 27, 2006
posted by melt away at 12:16 PM on January 27, 2006
What's with all the self hate? (But seriously, that FAQ seems a little tacked on, and the post was worded to make it sound like an direct attack on the previous post).
posted by Otis at 12:17 PM on January 27, 2006
posted by Otis at 12:17 PM on January 27, 2006
I Love Tacos, you know that people often will post contradictory links as comments to a post. It happens all the time. Post about how great some celebrity is and someone will post three links about their faults. It's how comments are supposed to work.
You were going out of your way to protest a thread you didn't like by starting a new one attacking it. It's bad form.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 12:21 PM on January 27, 2006
You were going out of your way to protest a thread you didn't like by starting a new one attacking it. It's bad form.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 12:21 PM on January 27, 2006
$5 is pretty cheap, but I'd have paid $20 more for an IGNORE button.
posted by cribcage at 12:23 PM on January 27, 2006
posted by cribcage at 12:23 PM on January 27, 2006
Mathowie, I could not disagree more strongly. While ILT's post would have worked perfectly well as a comment in the Brownpau thread, it also works fine as a perfectly valid FPP. Indeed, by the standards usually expressed in comments on this site, the post was above average: Multiple links to informative and interesting sites, zero snark, and utterly no mention of, let alone denigration of, any other members.
While some may feel the post is retaliatory or intended as some sort of childish game, I see no evidence for that, and it's clear to me that any childishness perceived in ILT's post was brought there by the beholder.
Because of your overzealous censorship, I would have been deprived of that excellent deconversion stories site had I not wandered around to the Grey.
I know this is your site, Matt, and I am a relative Newbie around here, but you were dead wrong to kill the post.
posted by BigLankyBastard at 12:26 PM on January 27, 2006
While some may feel the post is retaliatory or intended as some sort of childish game, I see no evidence for that, and it's clear to me that any childishness perceived in ILT's post was brought there by the beholder.
Because of your overzealous censorship, I would have been deprived of that excellent deconversion stories site had I not wandered around to the Grey.
I know this is your site, Matt, and I am a relative Newbie around here, but you were dead wrong to kill the post.
posted by BigLankyBastard at 12:26 PM on January 27, 2006
I thought it was interesting to post it that way. In fact, I still do. If MeFites were slower to anger, it could have been interesting.
As it stands, I have no plans to post the material as a comment (I still feel it's off-topic for the original thread), and the front page is off limits since I tried it once.
I actually really like that FAQ. I didn't pick it at random, it's been in my bookmarks for eons.
As for the self hate, I don't post about religion every other day.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:28 PM on January 27, 2006
As it stands, I have no plans to post the material as a comment (I still feel it's off-topic for the original thread), and the front page is off limits since I tried it once.
I actually really like that FAQ. I didn't pick it at random, it's been in my bookmarks for eons.
As for the self hate, I don't post about religion every other day.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:28 PM on January 27, 2006
While some may feel the post is retaliatory or intended as some sort of childish game, I see no evidence for that, and it's clear to me that any childishness perceived in ILT's post was brought there by the beholder.
It's not just my personal opinion that it was a retaliatory post, the person making the post admitted it beforehand.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 12:29 PM on January 27, 2006
It's not just my personal opinion that it was a retaliatory post, the person making the post admitted it beforehand.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 12:29 PM on January 27, 2006
BLB, when there's already an ongoing discussion of the topic on the front page, there doesn't need to be a new thread posted. Had ILT waited a week or two and then posted his thread, it probably would have stayed (but then he wouldn't be able to Make His Point, I guess).
Because of your overzealous censorship
I'm going to chalk that up to performance art.
posted by Gator at 12:30 PM on January 27, 2006
Because of your overzealous censorship
I'm going to chalk that up to performance art.
posted by Gator at 12:30 PM on January 27, 2006
mathowie: my links dispel a number of popular myths about Atheism, and explain in depth what it means.
To quote from one of my links: "most atheists do not oppose the religious beliefs of others, but simply want to live their lives free of religion. They are uninterested in religion, not opposed to it."
As such, while my post mirrored brownpau's, it was meant as a counterpoint regarding a different religion. It wasn't meant as a rebuttal or a criticism of his.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:30 PM on January 27, 2006
To quote from one of my links: "most atheists do not oppose the religious beliefs of others, but simply want to live their lives free of religion. They are uninterested in religion, not opposed to it."
As such, while my post mirrored brownpau's, it was meant as a counterpoint regarding a different religion. It wasn't meant as a rebuttal or a criticism of his.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:30 PM on January 27, 2006
It may well be a great post (I'm a pretty poor judge) and an entirely different subject, but it was worded as a (opposing) commentary to the previous FPP, and as such Matt made the right decision.
posted by If I Had An Anus at 12:32 PM on January 27, 2006
posted by If I Had An Anus at 12:32 PM on January 27, 2006
mathowie: I repeat my previous comment, that I'd hate those posts if I made them every other day.
In fact, I'd probably hate any post if I repeated it every other day, with slightly different words and links.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:32 PM on January 27, 2006
In fact, I'd probably hate any post if I repeated it every other day, with slightly different words and links.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:32 PM on January 27, 2006
Those two posts are the very worst of MeFi and the posters should be dragged through the streets by a camel.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 12:36 PM on January 27, 2006
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 12:36 PM on January 27, 2006
Since when is making a counterpoint not part of a rebuttal?
posted by loquax at 12:37 PM on January 27, 2006
posted by loquax at 12:37 PM on January 27, 2006
While some may feel the post is retaliatory or intended as some sort of childish game, I see no evidence for that...Then you're a moron. The original post was titled "From Skepticism to Worship." After bitching extensively across two threads, I Love Tacos posted his titled, "From Worship to Skepticism." Case closed. Grow up or go away.
Most members are clearly atheist. But many of the most active are also bigots, and this sort of tantrum is indicative. It's like when the gay kids form a Rainbow Alliance club in high school, and a couple of rednecks respond by starting a "Straight Club." It's childish, and it's plainly and obviously the work of a bigot.
posted by cribcage at 12:37 PM on January 27, 2006
cribcage: please read the links I included in the atheistic FAQ. Atheism is not at all about what others believe. It's a personal religion, and not an agenda.
My FPP was largely about the definition of atheism (which is a widely misunderstood belief system), but was framed as a (more informational) mirror to brownpau's post.
This isn't the straight club, and I'm not saying atheism is right, or christianity is wrong. I'm simply sharing information on the subject.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:40 PM on January 27, 2006
My FPP was largely about the definition of atheism (which is a widely misunderstood belief system), but was framed as a (more informational) mirror to brownpau's post.
This isn't the straight club, and I'm not saying atheism is right, or christianity is wrong. I'm simply sharing information on the subject.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:40 PM on January 27, 2006
I just noticed this gem..
obviously the work of a bigot.
WHAT. THE. FUCK.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:42 PM on January 27, 2006
obviously the work of a bigot.
WHAT. THE. FUCK.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:42 PM on January 27, 2006
I can't say I support being contrarian just for the sake of being contrarian.
posted by puke & cry at 12:42 PM on January 27, 2006
posted by puke & cry at 12:42 PM on January 27, 2006
Perhaps you could have waited a couple days to make your post? Then it probably would have stayed up. As such, it comes across as a heated reply.
I mean, this issue, doesnt become "cold" in a couple days, does it?
(aside: this atheist "crusading" sometimes annoys me more than the theists because the atheists invoke science, reason etc. when the quick-convert-that-young-soul-before-he-starts-thinking-for-himself
tactics are the same.)
posted by vacapinta at 12:45 PM on January 27, 2006
I mean, this issue, doesnt become "cold" in a couple days, does it?
(aside: this atheist "crusading" sometimes annoys me more than the theists because the atheists invoke science, reason etc. when the quick-convert-that-young-soul-before-he-starts-thinking-for-himself
tactics are the same.)
posted by vacapinta at 12:45 PM on January 27, 2006
More an insufferable smartass than a bigot, I'd say,
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 12:46 PM on January 27, 2006
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 12:46 PM on January 27, 2006
Matt, the comment you linked to is not a threat of, nor an admission of, retaliation. Because you read it as such, the site now has seven pro-Christian posts (over the past few days) and no humanist or Athiest posts. While I understand you want to avoid flamewars on the front page, I don't think that this 7-0 balance is the sort of site you had in mind when you started the Blue.
Gator, I assume by "performance art" you are implying that I am using hyperbole when I say "overzealous censorship." I am not. Any removal of posts from publication is, ipso facto, censorship. If I disagree with Matt's decision, it follows that I obviously feel he's being overzealous. I am not using "censorship" as a slur or callout. Some censorship (aka "editing") is necessary on a site such as this. I choose my words carefully, and ask only to be read at face value. A courtesy I strongly feel should also be extended to ILT.
On preview - Cribcage, I don't see where profanity is called for, except that if you called me a bigot to my face you'd get an earful. Now I know what sort of child YOU are, and will give you the credence you deserve.
posted by BigLankyBastard at 12:47 PM on January 27, 2006
Gator, I assume by "performance art" you are implying that I am using hyperbole when I say "overzealous censorship." I am not. Any removal of posts from publication is, ipso facto, censorship. If I disagree with Matt's decision, it follows that I obviously feel he's being overzealous. I am not using "censorship" as a slur or callout. Some censorship (aka "editing") is necessary on a site such as this. I choose my words carefully, and ask only to be read at face value. A courtesy I strongly feel should also be extended to ILT.
On preview - Cribcage, I don't see where profanity is called for, except that if you called me a bigot to my face you'd get an earful. Now I know what sort of child YOU are, and will give you the credence you deserve.
posted by BigLankyBastard at 12:47 PM on January 27, 2006
Bligh, if you think my smartassery is insufferable, wait until I start punning. But seriously, I am neither stupid, nor being a smartass, nor being contrarian. I think it's a good post and join the chorus of those who feel that Matt and Jess can be a little quick to hit the "kill" button.
posted by BigLankyBastard at 12:49 PM on January 27, 2006
posted by BigLankyBastard at 12:49 PM on January 27, 2006
but was framed as a (more informational) mirror to brownpau's post.
...and as such belonged in the post that was already on the front page and already has a MetaTalk thread about it.
it was meant as a counterpoint regarding a different religion.
The blunt FAQ that you linked to also states pretty clearly that atheism is not a religion.
If your post mainly refers to or makes sense in context with another existing post [the words you use include "mirror" and "counterpoint"] then it should go there. If your post had come first and his second, his would have been removed and yours left. MeFi is not AskMe, it's better to go off-topic than clutter the front page with a bunch of threads on the same topic.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 12:51 PM on January 27, 2006
...and as such belonged in the post that was already on the front page and already has a MetaTalk thread about it.
it was meant as a counterpoint regarding a different religion.
The blunt FAQ that you linked to also states pretty clearly that atheism is not a religion.
If your post mainly refers to or makes sense in context with another existing post [the words you use include "mirror" and "counterpoint"] then it should go there. If your post had come first and his second, his would have been removed and yours left. MeFi is not AskMe, it's better to go off-topic than clutter the front page with a bunch of threads on the same topic.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 12:51 PM on January 27, 2006
Matt, the comment you linked to is not a threat of, nor an admission of, retaliation.
You can give him the benefit of the doubt on that if you like, but in addition to that comment, his post was constructed in a nearly-identical way to brownpau's: ILT's lead-in was "From worship to skepticism," whereas brownpau's was "From Skepticism to Worship." ILT's post title was "A Collection Ex-Christians' Testimony," whereas brownpau's was "An ex-atheist's testimony." Both touched upon the issue of conversion, and like I said, there doesn't need to be multiple posts on the same topic on the front page.
posted by Gator at 12:53 PM on January 27, 2006
You can give him the benefit of the doubt on that if you like, but in addition to that comment, his post was constructed in a nearly-identical way to brownpau's: ILT's lead-in was "From worship to skepticism," whereas brownpau's was "From Skepticism to Worship." ILT's post title was "A Collection Ex-Christians' Testimony," whereas brownpau's was "An ex-atheist's testimony." Both touched upon the issue of conversion, and like I said, there doesn't need to be multiple posts on the same topic on the front page.
posted by Gator at 12:53 PM on January 27, 2006
vacapinta: it was not meant as crusading. It was meant as explanation.
This would've been clear if the post had stayed up, and the later links had been followed.
I agree that I could've made it less controversial by omitting the personal experiences link and concentrating more directly on the definition of atheism (the part of my FPP that interests me personally). And I could've been less of a smartass by not mirroring brownpau's post.
I still disagree with the assertion that a discussion of atheism belongs in a thread about personal conversion.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:54 PM on January 27, 2006
This would've been clear if the post had stayed up, and the later links had been followed.
I agree that I could've made it less controversial by omitting the personal experiences link and concentrating more directly on the definition of atheism (the part of my FPP that interests me personally). And I could've been less of a smartass by not mirroring brownpau's post.
I still disagree with the assertion that a discussion of atheism belongs in a thread about personal conversion.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:54 PM on January 27, 2006
Upon further consideration, the first link from my FPP could have been used in a comment in brownpau's thread.
The second two would still be inappropriate.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:56 PM on January 27, 2006
The second two would still be inappropriate.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:56 PM on January 27, 2006
most atheists do not oppose the religious beliefs of others, but simply want to live their lives free of religion. They are uninterested in religion, not opposed to it.
Except on MeFi, where they enjoy nothing better than beating up on religion and the religious. Strange, that.
posted by languagehat at 1:47 PM on January 27, 2006
Except on MeFi, where they enjoy nothing better than beating up on religion and the religious. Strange, that.
posted by languagehat at 1:47 PM on January 27, 2006
Except on MeFi, where they enjoy nothing better than beating up on religion and the religious. Strange, that.
That knife cuts both ways, but I certainly wasn't attempting to stomp on anybody's religion.
posted by I Love Tacos at 1:57 PM on January 27, 2006
That knife cuts both ways, but I certainly wasn't attempting to stomp on anybody's religion.
posted by I Love Tacos at 1:57 PM on January 27, 2006
I don't think that this 7-0 balance is the sort of site you had in mind when you started the Blue.
posted by BigLankyBastard at 2:47 PM CST on January 27
What exactly do you mean by this comment? Do you mean that it is not balanced and that is the problem? Do you mean it has too many "Pro-Christian" posts and that is the problem? Do you have some evidence that Matt had in mind, at all, a place where these kinds of threads would exist at all? Do you have some evidence that Matt started this place to be anything other than Cat-scan type threads?
Do you get equally upset about 140 : 2 balance between left/critical of right : right/critical of left posts? Is that the balance that Matt intended in your estimation?
Myself, I would axe all threads that had anything to do with whether one belief system is better than others because it is impossible to have a cogent discussion on that topic. Informative or historical threads about various adherrents to belief systems ought to be acceptable, but any threads about whether one side is "more corrrect" should be axed, in my opinion.
posted by dios at 2:00 PM on January 27, 2006
posted by BigLankyBastard at 2:47 PM CST on January 27
What exactly do you mean by this comment? Do you mean that it is not balanced and that is the problem? Do you mean it has too many "Pro-Christian" posts and that is the problem? Do you have some evidence that Matt had in mind, at all, a place where these kinds of threads would exist at all? Do you have some evidence that Matt started this place to be anything other than Cat-scan type threads?
Do you get equally upset about 140 : 2 balance between left/critical of right : right/critical of left posts? Is that the balance that Matt intended in your estimation?
Myself, I would axe all threads that had anything to do with whether one belief system is better than others because it is impossible to have a cogent discussion on that topic. Informative or historical threads about various adherrents to belief systems ought to be acceptable, but any threads about whether one side is "more corrrect" should be axed, in my opinion.
posted by dios at 2:00 PM on January 27, 2006
First rule of straight club - do not talk about straight club.
I think mathowie made a reasonable call, given the wording of the post. I think melt away made a good point that it probably could have stayed had the wording been different and I Love Tacos has a point that a discussion of atheism doesn’t belong in a thread about personal conversion.
(I reposted one of your latter links, in a point about atheism I was interested raised by that link - no bites)
Dunno. Maybe you can repost it in a different form? More as an analytic topic? (Bit of personal bias there)
That said I Love Tacos - where do you get off saying Mefi’s are quick to anger? Fuck you, buddy.
/sarcasm
posted by Smedleyman at 2:02 PM on January 27, 2006
I think mathowie made a reasonable call, given the wording of the post. I think melt away made a good point that it probably could have stayed had the wording been different and I Love Tacos has a point that a discussion of atheism doesn’t belong in a thread about personal conversion.
(I reposted one of your latter links, in a point about atheism I was interested raised by that link - no bites)
Dunno. Maybe you can repost it in a different form? More as an analytic topic? (Bit of personal bias there)
That said I Love Tacos - where do you get off saying Mefi’s are quick to anger? Fuck you, buddy.
/sarcasm
posted by Smedleyman at 2:02 PM on January 27, 2006
Balance? We don’t have to show you any stinkin’ balance!
Actually there are a bunch of point and laugh at the funny Christians posts.
(Not that I’m not criticising...)
I’ll go with you on the cogency thing, dios. But I think that’d restrict some of the humor and enlightened (albeit non-cogent) comments.
The left/right thing I could care less about. I learn more talking with people who don’t share my POV. IMHO.
My default is - the answer to speech you don’t like is more speech. Just a thought.
posted by Smedleyman at 2:09 PM on January 27, 2006
Actually there are a bunch of point and laugh at the funny Christians posts.
(Not that I’m not criticising...)
I’ll go with you on the cogency thing, dios. But I think that’d restrict some of the humor and enlightened (albeit non-cogent) comments.
The left/right thing I could care less about. I learn more talking with people who don’t share my POV. IMHO.
My default is - the answer to speech you don’t like is more speech. Just a thought.
posted by Smedleyman at 2:09 PM on January 27, 2006
Maybe you can repost it in a different form? More as an analytic topic? (Bit of personal bias there)
I'll try again some other day, preferably when I'm not busy being an enormous asshole.
posted by I Love Tacos at 2:12 PM on January 27, 2006
I'll try again some other day, preferably when I'm not busy being an enormous asshole.
posted by I Love Tacos at 2:12 PM on January 27, 2006
Wow, sounds like it could be months from now. Hopefully the sites are still up then.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 2:27 PM on January 27, 2006
posted by mathowie (staff) at 2:27 PM on January 27, 2006
Tacos, walk away from the keyboard. Your disingenuousness is an insult to the intelligence of the rest of us.
posted by LarryC at 2:35 PM on January 27, 2006
posted by LarryC at 2:35 PM on January 27, 2006
Wow, sounds like it could be months from now. Hopefully the sites are still up then.
Always the consummate professional, far more mature than all those childish users.
posted by I Love Tacos at 2:37 PM on January 27, 2006
Always the consummate professional, far more mature than all those childish users.
posted by I Love Tacos at 2:37 PM on January 27, 2006
Tacos, walk away from the keyboard. Your disingenuousness is an insult to the intelligence of the rest of us.
I really meant what I wrote. And also that I've been a huge asshole today.
I'd appreciate if you'd keep your personal attacks accurate.
posted by I Love Tacos at 2:38 PM on January 27, 2006
I really meant what I wrote. And also that I've been a huge asshole today.
I'd appreciate if you'd keep your personal attacks accurate.
posted by I Love Tacos at 2:38 PM on January 27, 2006
Atheism is not at all about what others believe.
You can say that, but the problem is that, for example, Christianity isn't about crusadin' aganst Muslims or banning evolution in the classroom or bombing abortion clinics, either. Except when it is. A belief system is defined in the differently-believing public consciousness in large part by the actions of those who espouse the belief system, even if their actions contradict the stated/canonical tenets of the system.
So it's your atheism vs. the other folks' atheism; when you say that atheism isn't at all about what others believe, you make a verifiably false assertion if we're using any realistically descriptivist definition of "atheism": many self-proclaimed atheists are all about what others believe. And so the perception that some folks have that your post stank of religious contrarianism (as opposed to personal a-religiousness, as you seem to have intended) is totally understandable.
Especially given that you intentionally mimicked the form of the other post. Doing that fundamentally undermined any attempt on your part to present your post as a neutral, non-combative non-response to the other post. And that right there is the problem, and your intentions regarding the meaning of "atheism" don't change that -- your post itself pretty much belies any intention towards neutrality.
It doesn't mean you're an enormous asshole. It just means you did something smartassy and got pegged for it, despite having some good intention in bringing interesting stuff to the table. Repost it in a couple days in a different format not likely to piss people off, yeah?
posted by cortex at 2:42 PM on January 27, 2006
You can say that, but the problem is that, for example, Christianity isn't about crusadin' aganst Muslims or banning evolution in the classroom or bombing abortion clinics, either. Except when it is. A belief system is defined in the differently-believing public consciousness in large part by the actions of those who espouse the belief system, even if their actions contradict the stated/canonical tenets of the system.
So it's your atheism vs. the other folks' atheism; when you say that atheism isn't at all about what others believe, you make a verifiably false assertion if we're using any realistically descriptivist definition of "atheism": many self-proclaimed atheists are all about what others believe. And so the perception that some folks have that your post stank of religious contrarianism (as opposed to personal a-religiousness, as you seem to have intended) is totally understandable.
Especially given that you intentionally mimicked the form of the other post. Doing that fundamentally undermined any attempt on your part to present your post as a neutral, non-combative non-response to the other post. And that right there is the problem, and your intentions regarding the meaning of "atheism" don't change that -- your post itself pretty much belies any intention towards neutrality.
It doesn't mean you're an enormous asshole. It just means you did something smartassy and got pegged for it, despite having some good intention in bringing interesting stuff to the table. Repost it in a couple days in a different format not likely to piss people off, yeah?
posted by cortex at 2:42 PM on January 27, 2006
Enormous asshole - too much bran maybe?
A person losing their temper/perspective/etc.? On the internet? Good lord! *gasp*
*choke*
*takes umbrage, sirrah*
Meh, I Love Tacos, everyone catches assholery sometimes. I’m not saying you are now, but we all do.
posted by Smedleyman at 2:44 PM on January 27, 2006
A person losing their temper/perspective/etc.? On the internet? Good lord! *gasp*
*choke*
*takes umbrage, sirrah*
Meh, I Love Tacos, everyone catches assholery sometimes. I’m not saying you are now, but we all do.
posted by Smedleyman at 2:44 PM on January 27, 2006
Kinda like masterbation...we all do...but no one wants to talk about it and we all seem ashamed when were caught.
I mean, it's a perfectly natural....
...I'll stop now.
posted by Smedleyman at 2:45 PM on January 27, 2006
I mean, it's a perfectly natural....
...I'll stop now.
posted by Smedleyman at 2:45 PM on January 27, 2006
Always the consummate professional, far more mature than all those childish users.
(Adds "can't take a joke" to list of I Love Tacos' personal pet peeves in the database.)
posted by mathowie (staff) at 2:52 PM on January 27, 2006
(Adds "can't take a joke" to list of I Love Tacos' personal pet peeves in the database.)
posted by mathowie (staff) at 2:52 PM on January 27, 2006
And so the perception that some folks have that your post stank of religious contrarianism (as opposed to personal a-religiousness, as you seem to have intended) is totally understandable.
agreed.
Doing that fundamentally undermined any attempt on your part to present your post as a neutral, non-combative non-response to the other post.
agreed.
It doesn't mean you're an enormous asshole.
Oh, I don't think I'm an enormous asshole, but I've certainly been one on metafilter today.
Meh, I Love Tacos, everyone catches assholery sometimes. I’m not saying you are now, but we all do.
There's no need to say it. I know it's true.
I have my reasons, but reasons are different than proper justifications.
posted by I Love Tacos at 2:54 PM on January 27, 2006
agreed.
Doing that fundamentally undermined any attempt on your part to present your post as a neutral, non-combative non-response to the other post.
agreed.
It doesn't mean you're an enormous asshole.
Oh, I don't think I'm an enormous asshole, but I've certainly been one on metafilter today.
Meh, I Love Tacos, everyone catches assholery sometimes. I’m not saying you are now, but we all do.
There's no need to say it. I know it's true.
I have my reasons, but reasons are different than proper justifications.
posted by I Love Tacos at 2:54 PM on January 27, 2006
(Adds "can't take a joke" to list of I Love Tacos' personal pet peeves in the database.)
I suggest deleting the database. It's probably half the reason that MeFi crashes so much.
posted by I Love Tacos at 2:59 PM on January 27, 2006
I suggest deleting the database. It's probably half the reason that MeFi crashes so much.
posted by I Love Tacos at 2:59 PM on January 27, 2006
Just wait 'til I register the "I Hate Tacos" username.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 3:18 PM on January 27, 2006
posted by mr_crash_davis at 3:18 PM on January 27, 2006
Just wait 'til I register the "I Hate Tacos" username.
More tacos for me! Finally, something good about today!
posted by I Love Tacos at 3:27 PM on January 27, 2006
More tacos for me! Finally, something good about today!
posted by I Love Tacos at 3:27 PM on January 27, 2006
As someone who spent several months running a very active messageboard, nothing bugs me more than people crying about 'censorship' on a web page.
It's Matt's page, he'll do what he wants. If you'd do things differently, fine, make a note of it or better yet, start your own blog (as somebody suggested that our Christian friend do). Nobody's stopping you from doing all the ranting you want on your own dime.
posted by empath at 3:32 PM on January 27, 2006
It's Matt's page, he'll do what he wants. If you'd do things differently, fine, make a note of it or better yet, start your own blog (as somebody suggested that our Christian friend do). Nobody's stopping you from doing all the ranting you want on your own dime.
posted by empath at 3:32 PM on January 27, 2006
Tacos, have you been wounded on teh internets? Does you needs teh waaaaambulance?
posted by klangklangston at 3:35 PM on January 27, 2006
posted by klangklangston at 3:35 PM on January 27, 2006
That's very understanding of you, empath.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 3:42 PM on January 27, 2006
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 3:42 PM on January 27, 2006
Nobody's stopping you from doing all the ranting you want on your own dime.
Yes, and I'm getting my full dime's worth, if you hadn't already noticed.
posted by I Love Tacos at 3:56 PM on January 27, 2006
Yes, and I'm getting my full dime's worth, if you hadn't already noticed.
posted by I Love Tacos at 3:56 PM on January 27, 2006
Tacos, have you been wounded on teh internets? Does you needs teh waaaaambulance?
Get me a towel for cryin and a dry martini.
The martini's for me. I'll show you what the towel's for when you get back.
posted by I Love Tacos at 4:01 PM on January 27, 2006
Get me a towel for cryin and a dry martini.
The martini's for me. I'll show you what the towel's for when you get back.
posted by I Love Tacos at 4:01 PM on January 27, 2006
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I don't want to see the front page of MetaFilter turn into a pissing match, it's childish.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 12:10 PM on January 27, 2006