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posted by mr_crash_davis to Etiquette/Policy at 2:14 PM (105 comments total)

Throw the word meta in front of all of the links..

Meta-del.icio.us
posted by niles at 2:21 PM on December 31, 2006

...but I think this is the same concept as this FPP. I don't really get it.
posted by niles at 2:22 PM on December 31, 2006

mmmm. juicy triple meta.
posted by erebora at 2:23 PM on December 31, 2006

May I be the first to thank everyone for making DAY WITHOUT METATALK™ (or as near as we're going to see in our lifetime) a reality.
posted by hangashore at 2:24 PM on December 31, 2006

Almost, mr_crash_davis. Almost.
posted by niles at 2:27 PM on December 31, 2006

Man, Matt will never get his MetaTalk thread-free day.
posted by loquacious at 2:43 PM on December 31, 2006

just let it metastasize!
posted by nj_subgenius at 2:45 PM on December 31, 2006

Oh, man, someone needs to do something bad to mr_crash_davis. It's not even a worthwhile callout.

*sobs*

We were so close, too.
posted by mediareport at 2:46 PM on December 31, 2006

All mefites could make a resolution to avoid posting to MetaTalk on January 1, 2007. Think of it as a New Years' gift to #1 on 1-1.
posted by Cranberry at 2:48 PM on December 31, 2006

We were so close, too.

...unless you're in Finland, Israel, or South Africa right now.

Hint: go to your Preferences page. Change your time zone to UTC+2 (Eastern European Time). Refresh and watch the fun!
posted by hangashore at 2:48 PM on December 31, 2006 [1 favorite]

Wait. Is this a real callout? Or are you just trying to increase the meta-y goodness?
posted by veggieboy at 2:50 PM on December 31, 2006

I just don't know.
posted by bob sarabia at 2:57 PM on December 31, 2006

Refresh and watch the fun!

Omigod, that's great! Someone call languagehat - we did it! There has actually been A Day Without MetaTalk!
posted by mediareport at 3:08 PM on December 31, 2006

Really, Mr davis!
posted by stirfry at 3:09 PM on December 31, 2006

I thought those were compiler flags.
posted by StickyCarpet at 3:10 PM on December 31, 2006

Is this the new flameout thread?
posted by dirtynumbangelboy at 3:17 PM on December 31, 2006

It sure is, Rothko!
posted by interrobang at 3:30 PM on December 31, 2006 [3 favorites]

Hmm, about 60,300 hits.
posted by gubo at 3:44 PM on December 31, 2006

A/S/L?
ASL
LOL
ROFL
Settle
OMG UML
:-(
posted by Smart Dalek at 3:46 PM on December 31, 2006

This was an example of something that's become more common lately, a post whose unwritten subtitle is "My google-fu is strong."

This post is another example of that. Google for "Saddam" and dump all the half-way reasonable links that turn up into a single MeFi post.

Yeah, there's a theme, and yeah, there are links. But that doesn't necessarily make for a good post.

Or "My You-Tube-fu is strong"; use the You-Tube search engine and dump all the videos that result.

(By the way, this YouTube genuinely is good.)
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 3:47 PM on December 31, 2006

I have a feeling that this kind of thing will diminish come tomorrow. Matt's gracious and generous offer of a prize for best post in December has been a study in unintended consequences, yielding more posts but not really better posts.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 3:54 PM on December 31, 2006

i don't get this whole meta-free day business. who cares? if matt wants meta free days, he can sell the site. or appoint someone to handle meta. like, say, me.
posted by quonsar at 3:55 PM on December 31, 2006

For once, Steven, I agree with you. I'm going to go put my head in the oven now.
posted by blasdelf at 4:04 PM on December 31, 2006 [1 favorite]

How awesome (and unlikely) would it be if quonsar was made the third moderator?
posted by Roger Dodger at 4:08 PM on December 31, 2006

Blasdelf, there's a first time for everything. But I'll try not to let it happen again.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 4:12 PM on December 31, 2006

I am up in your meta stuffing fish in your pants.
posted by Duncan at 4:13 PM on December 31, 2006

This post was deleted for the following reason: we just signified the number of deaths last week, when it surpassed 9/11 tower deaths.

this isn't meant as a call out or something against matt and i know it has nothing to do with this, but i didn't want to start a meta fpp over this

does anyone else consider this depressing as fuck? ... i do
posted by pyramid termite at 4:27 PM on December 31, 2006

I'll be handling the quonsar negotiations and my client will need an equity stake if he is to become a moderator.

does anyone else consider this depressing as fuck?

No. That was a righteous deletion, more of the same please.
posted by mlis at 4:31 PM on December 31, 2006

Not as depressing as 3,000 little periods hastily cut and pasted in a misguided attempt at respect.

"But hey, we should remember that these are actual people and not just statistics, so I am going to show you how sensitive I am by making every single of them the same. And it only took me about 30 seconds to prove how caring I am. Woohoo!"
posted by dhammond at 4:41 PM on December 31, 2006

SCDB, that YouTube link was just a blatant Norm McLaren rip-off - and by blatant Norm McLaren rip-off, I mean awesome!
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 4:54 PM on December 31, 2006

If you look at the times, it is more than twenty-four MetaTalk free hours, just not one calendar day.

On the subject of depressing and weird - I find it little bit weird when someone posts a "." in an obit thread and then proceeds to wax philosophical about that particular person's passing (I've probably even done this myself without thinking about it). I suppose things come to mean different things over time and it's no longer "I'm at a loss for words" but now a signifier of something completely different, but what is that different thing? Does "." now mean "Death is a real bummer"?
posted by grapefruitmoon at 5:13 PM on December 31, 2006

SCDB, that YouTube link was just a blatant Norm McLaren rip-off - and by blatant Norm McLaren rip-off, I mean awesome!

Someone should post it on the blue.
posted by bob sarabia at 5:23 PM on December 31, 2006 [1 favorite]

just not one calendar day.

It was indeed a calendar day if you're in the Eastern European time zone. Just do what hangashore suggests, and the MetaTalk front page jumps from December 30 to January 1 with no posts in between.

Frabjous.
posted by mediareport at 5:28 PM on December 31, 2006

dhammond:
Not as depressing as 3,000 little periods hastily cut and pasted in a misguided attempt at respect.

"But hey, we should remember that these are actual people and not just statistics, so I am going to show you how sensitive I am by making every single of them the same. And it only took me about 30 seconds to prove how caring I am. Woohoo!"

Now, now, it took over a minute to make sure that the post had the right number of dots. And the post is deleted, so it's a very small number of people who will be seeing this "depressing" post.

In all seriousness, it's simply a depressing fact. While I'm actually active in the antiwar movement and have had friends and family in Iraq -- so it's hardly the most significant thing I've done against the war -- I thought a 3000x sympathy note would be a lot more appropriate for the occasion than starting up a debate that would go nowhere.
posted by graymouser at 5:31 PM on December 31, 2006

SCDB, that YouTube link was just a blatant Norm McLaren rip-off - and by blatant Norm McLaren rip-off, I mean awesome!

Someone should post it on the blue.

I'm pretty damn sure it's been done before. I think that's where I saw it the first time.
posted by blasdelf at 5:38 PM on December 31, 2006

dirtynumbangelboy : Is this the new flameout thread?

You know hwat? FUCK YOU I'm so sick of your shit. Always with the questoins, liek you are some sort of smart SHIT>

oNE of these days your going to open your mouth and someone s going to shut it for good ASSHOLE!

Fuck this I AM OUT OF HERE!/
posted by quin at 6:22 PM on December 31, 2006

Doesn't have the elegance or temerity of your last work dnab, but I figure it's an appropriate homage. Though, I have to admit, it feels a little odd. Kinda exhilarating. I see why you had some much fun doing it last time
posted by quin at 6:24 PM on December 31, 2006

WHAT
THE
FUCK
MR_CRASH_DAVIS?

Now quin's fucking gone? THANKS A LOT, YOU TEN-FISTED ASSHOLE!

If quin's gone I'm so gone I'm gonna knock the fucking door off the hinges with my ass on the way out. Fuck all you fuckers. Maybe if you're lucky I'll check in on you assholes next year.
posted by loquacious at 6:32 PM on December 31, 2006

Yeah, there's a theme, and yeah, there are links. But that doesn't necessarily make for a good post.

Frankenpot

Better living through genetic engineering! A new cash-crop hybrid has been developed which can be planted any time of the year. It can be harvested after just 2 months, vastly increasing annual yields per acre. It's resistant to herbicides and other nasty chemicals. It's referred to as "Columbian" and it's now the breed-of-choice for Michoacan marijuana farmers.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste (33 comments total) [add to favorites] [!]

This post was deleted for the following reason: this thread could be improved upon in many ways. So many that perhaps this thread as it stands is not very good at all. Please try again tomorrow. Thank you.

Hey, posted by Steven Den Beste on 12:50 PM PST on January 25, 2002">Hiawatha, you think one link to a Fox news story about something that isn't neither news nor even little known is post worthy. Compared to anything posted in the last month, that post stinks. If there's a dead AA battery for worst post of the month, if not evar, you're a contender.
posted by y2karl at 6:33 PM on December 31, 2006

Would it be a misstep to start a Happy New Year meta thread?
posted by cortex at 6:45 PM on December 31, 2006

Holy fuckin Moses quonsar guest moderator!!!
posted by nj_subgenius at 6:51 PM on December 31, 2006

I think this is that thread. SO QUIT FUCKIGN RAMPBLING ABOUTN HOW YOURT ARE GOINGH TO STYART A FUCKNING SUPER-FANTASTIVC TREAD GODDAMMIT

and happy new year from Philly!one11
posted by Mister_A at 6:52 PM on December 31, 2006

If you look at the times, it is more than twenty-four MetaTalk free hours, just not one calendar day.

I am so glad you pointed this out. In my locale, it looked like we'd just about made it through a day of no MeTaing.

I suggest we make January 1st a no-MetaTalking day, in appreciation of Matt's dedication to the site. An entire day free of whinging, sniping, belly-aching, and shitheadedness.

My god, it is to dream!
posted by five fresh fish at 6:55 PM on December 31, 2006

to make a Jan 1st-free day (it might already be too late!) we'd probably need to maintain silence for at least forty-eight hours, so that everyone's had a full 24.
posted by five fresh fish at 6:56 PM on December 31, 2006

Would it be a misstep to start a Happy New Year meta thread?

Nah, go for it. I imagine a lot of people are going to be wasted anyway.
posted by bob sarabia at 6:59 PM on December 31, 2006

Someone seems to have a thin skin...

Y2Karl, I speak as an expert on bad posts, having produced my share of them and learned from the experience.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 7:05 PM on December 31, 2006 [1 favorite]

I'm getting my sparklers, pointy hat and asthmatic- sounding unravelling hooty whistle out!
posted by nj_subgenius at 7:06 PM on December 31, 2006 [1 favorite]

to make a Jan 1st-free day (it might already be too late!) we'd probably need to maintain silence for at least forty-eight hours, so that everyone's had a full 24.

HOLY FUCK! GENE RAY WAS RIGHT!!!
posted by loquacious at 7:11 PM on December 31, 2006

By the way, Y2Karl, tu quoque is lame.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 7:12 PM on December 31, 2006

Metafilter: asthmatic-sounding unravelling hooty whistle
posted by mr_crash_davis at 7:31 PM on December 31, 2006 [1 favorite]

quonsar guest moderator!!!

Yes, because if there's anything really holding MeTa back, it's that there just isn't enough quonsar. Still, it'd be nice change of pace to see people actually have a reason for kissing his ass.

I kid 'cause I love.
And I'm giving up making rude MeTa comments* in honour of the New Year two and a half hours away, so this bile has to go somewhere, dammit!
Make January 1st YOUR Brand New Day!

*For a while, at least.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 7:35 PM on December 31, 2006

"someone needs to do something bad to mr_crash_davis"

I completely agree.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 7:36 PM on December 31, 2006

Yes, because if there's anything really holding MeTa back, it's that there just isn't enough quonsar. Still, it'd be nice change of pace to see people actually have a reason for kissing his ass.

It's because that if there's anything really MeTa back there it'd be of a nice, still pace, reason. To see, have just enough quonsar actually isn't. Yes, people change, holding his ass for kissing.
posted by loquacious at 7:45 PM on December 31, 2006

...I speak as an expert on bad posts, having produced my share of them and learned from the experience.

That one-link Fox-news-story-that-wasn't-even-news post was your latest.
There is no dispute--when it comes to making bad posts, you are the expert.
posted by y2karl at 7:50 PM on December 31, 2006

loquacious, you bugger, you broke my brain!
Brand New Day '07 is so over!!!
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 8:00 PM on December 31, 2006

All of the A-list MeFites have made some shitass posts over the years. You've made plenty of crap posts over the years too, y2karl. Quantity has a habit of betraying quality.
posted by blasdelf at 8:34 PM on December 31, 2006

Blasdelf, are you agreeing with me again? I'm not sure the space-time continuum can stand this kind of warping!
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 9:08 PM on December 31, 2006 [1 favorite]

Eleven days ago is not exactly over the years. It's more like yesterday.

There are plenty of things posted in which I have no interest. Flash games, for instance, or any sort of computer games, for that matter. I don't care about sports. I don't demand that posts about computer games or sports be banned. I don't belittle people for their tastes in music when I do not share their tastes or make surmises about the mental states of people I do not know and have never met.

I don't make MetaTalk posts about what should or should not be posted--but I do make fun of people who do when their own latest MetaFilter post was one of the suckier posts ever made.
posted by y2karl at 9:15 PM on December 31, 2006

Haha! Yeah!! Fuck those guys!
posted by Balisong at 9:25 PM on December 31, 2006

It's not exactly news around here that one link news stories have to really have some merit to make the bar. Posting one that isn't even news is just lazy beyond belief. Looking stuff up at least takes an iota or two of effort and forethought. People who can't even make the most minimal effort have little room to talk about people who do.
posted by y2karl at 9:28 PM on December 31, 2006

Thanks for your posts, Y2Karl, you are welcome for mine.
posted by Balisong at 9:31 PM on December 31, 2006

y2karl, I'm not a fan of this recent behavior of yours. I mean, I'm not a fan of calling out bad posts either, but come on, two wrongs don't make a right. And digging up a deleted post by someone, that's verging on just obsessive.
posted by jonson at 9:35 PM on December 31, 2006

HIPPO POOP SMEAR!

SOMEBODY FUCK QUONSAR.
TIA,
QUONS LOKKEN
posted by quonsar at 9:59 PM on December 31, 2006

Steven, when y2karl wins the Wii, even though you hate YouTube links, would you come over and play it with him if he invited you? That would kind of be a heartwarming way to resolve this.
posted by XQUZYPHYR at 10:06 PM on December 31, 2006 [1 favorite]

You've said a lot of funny things, XQ, but that was just about the funniest that I've seen. Nice work.
posted by jonson at 10:11 PM on December 31, 2006

Someone seems to have a thin skin...

Y2Karl, I speak as an expert on bad posts, having produced my share of them and learned from the experience.

That was the perfect response. Gracious and mature. Nothing more needed to be said.

Why you could not resist the urge to follow-up I have no idea.
posted by mlis at 10:13 PM on December 31, 2006

y2karl, I don't hate on crap posts because of their subjects, but because of their construction. You know that. You are not a moron. Your later YouTube posts sucked ass because you just dumped link after link from generic searches on YouTube, and then you did it again and again. SCDB's frankenpot post sucked because it was a link to a shitty Fox News story, with no framing of substance. Stavros' recent post sucked because it was a poor copy-paste of a 3rd generation regex of a robot-crawled YouTube search, where most of the links were misleading.

I don't have a vendetta against videos that happen to be hosted by YouTube, or any specific subject for a post. I do tend to hate posts that are deliberately constructed — that are not found links. Also, links to poor tabloid journalism with no framing (FoxNews, The Register, any other British newspaper). Poorly made posts suck independently of their subject.
posted by blasdelf at 10:20 PM on December 31, 2006

blasdelf, I say this with love in my heart and a twinkle in my eye : please shut the fuck up about it already. You're being a dick.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 10:38 PM on December 31, 2006

Man, I just fucking like cake. Cake fucking kicks some serious motherfuckin' ass. I would marry me some fucking cake if there was ever some cake that would ever fucking marry my fucking cake-loving ass.

You motherfuckers and your anti-cake loving asses. Cake is the shit. Cake.
posted by purephase at 10:47 PM on December 31, 2006 [23 favorites]

Everybody inevitably makes posts that suck if they just post enough. Luck of the draw. If I posted more I'd be sure to have some really bad posts. Nothing personal – I actually like you – when there was agitation for a third, non-north-american moderator, I nominated you repeatedly. It's all going to be okay. (^_^)
posted by blasdelf at 10:51 PM on December 31, 2006

You just want to make me cry, I know it.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 10:51 PM on December 31, 2006

Awww…
posted by blasdelf at 10:54 PM on December 31, 2006

You just want to make me cry, I know it.

Is this the fisting thread?
posted by Balisong at 10:56 PM on December 31, 2006

So then I got this idea about driving a cheesecake truck,
cuz I figured at the end of the day,
I could take some of the leftover cheesecakes home.
And I love cheesecake.

So I went to the cheesecake company
and they asked me if I could drive a truck and I said yes,
and they said 'You're hired!'

So the next day I got in the truck with all the cheesecakes
and I drove about a block and I just had to have a cheesecake
so I pulled over and opened the truck
and I got a cheesecake, and I also took one for later,
and I took one for my friend Farmboy,
and I took one to bring home,
and by that time I had eaten one of the cheesecakes
so I took another one.

Then I figured I might as well stop at my house
to drop off all the cheesecakes,
so I take five cakes to eat on the way,
and I drive another block and a half to my house.

Now it's lunch time so I eat ten cheesecakes,
and a cheesecake for dessert.
I should point out, by the way,
that all of these cheesecakes were very delicious.

Anyway, I decided that the only thing to do
would be to eat all the rest of the cheesecakes
and hide the truck somewhere
and leave town.

And I miss everybody a lot
but I'm not really sorry
because they were very delicious cheesecakes.

-- King Missle - Cheesecake Truck - Mystical Shit

posted by loquacious at 11:00 PM on December 31, 2006

James Brown is dead damn it!
posted by Duncan at 11:44 PM on December 31, 2006

And I'm not feeling too good myself.
posted by wendell at 12:11 AM on January 1, 2007

Well, this will end well.
posted by loquacious at 12:31 AM on January 1, 2007

I mean, I'm not a fan of calling out bad posts either...

People who have actually put some effort into what they have posted rarely are. This is my experience.

And digging up a deleted post by someone...

Picking low hanging fruit from a lawn chair while napping is more like it. Less than two weeks old is not ancient history. I use the lofi as my start page--all it took was scrolling down.
posted by y2karl at 3:23 AM on January 1, 2007

Metafilter: all it took was scrolling down.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 4:33 AM on January 1, 2007 [1 favorite]

How do you get lofi to display more than a week at a time, y2karl? I'm stuck with seven days.
posted by cgc373 at 7:46 AM on January 1, 2007

My lofi goes to Dec. 1. I don't why mine does and yours doesn't. Man, there were a lot of nice posts I saw scrolling. Jonson consistently makes great posts but madamejujujive's are the greatest in my book. Then there was the guy with the bot fly larva... Eeyew. I forgot that one. Insect sex and violence is OK, but, man, I don't want to be exposed to botfly larvae. TweetleBeetleBattleBookie's Gumby post was good., too.
posted by y2karl at 8:52 AM on January 1, 2007

Another random thought is that languagehat should post more. Shotaro Shimomura's portfolio was wonderful.
posted by y2karl at 9:06 AM on January 1, 2007

Huh. I wonder if there's some preference deep in the MetaFilter mysteries where I can make lofi work with a month of posts instead of a week. Unless it's grandfathered in or something. Have you had lofi as your start page for a long time, y2karl?

And I'm totally with you about languagehat, and madamjujujive's Yardbirds documentary post rules, too. Good, good stuff.
posted by cgc373 at 9:44 AM on January 1, 2007

(And I don't mean to slight jonson. Good stuff from him, too. Lots of good stuff at MetaFilter, really. It's as if the site does its job almost all the time!)
posted by cgc373 at 9:45 AM on January 1, 2007

What in the unholy fuck are you sick freaks doing in here? Why don't you all put your goddamn pants back on and stop making out like Japanese schoolgirls? For Lob's sake, it's just a fucking pickle! You eat it with a sandwich and some chips! It's not the Holy Grail of self abuse and flagallation! Hello Kitty says Goodbye!
posted by loquacious at 10:02 AM on January 1, 2007

What y2karl said. IMO, madamejujujive is MeFi's not-so-secret weapon.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 10:02 AM on January 1, 2007

My post this month was so good that it only got three comments. Beat that!

(PS: It's been a weird holiday season, what with my girlfriend back in town. I don't know if it's the lack of time that I've had to keep up with the front page and the assorted gripes, or the amazing amount of sex that I'm having— and totally bragging about— sending endorphins through me, but this all seems so hilariously petty.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to going through Stav and Y2Karl's links once my girlfriend is back in LA and I'm all bummed out, looking for entertainment to console me. I can't say the same for the myriad of news links. Say what you will about YouTube dumps, but the biggest danger there is that the videos'll be taken down, not that they won't be interesting in a week.)
posted by klangklangston at 10:04 AM on January 1, 2007

indeed, there used to exist a preference for "number of days to display on the front page". since matt quite rightly recoded the front page to show a fixed number of posts with older/newer links at the bottom, the option has disappeared into spaghettiville. the users setting is still stored in the db and is still consulted by the ancient lofi code. there's just no way to change the setting any longer.
posted by quonsar at 10:09 AM on January 1, 2007

My post this month was so good that it only got three comments. Beat that!

Amongst more germain articles, I went with a YouTube link, but forgot the Wikipedia entry. No one hates it yet, a first for me. How did I fail?
posted by Devils Rancher at 10:10 AM on January 1, 2007

Thanks for the straight dope, quonsar. Here I consider inserting a sad emoticon, and here I refrain, because I think emoticons are a bit stupid.

loquacious, I admit to some curiosity: How do Japanese schoolgirls make out?
posted by cgc373 at 10:19 AM on January 1, 2007

How do Japanese schoolgirls make out?

squinting. on a slippery slope.
posted by quonsar at 10:24 AM on January 1, 2007

I am up in your meta stuffing fish in your pants.
posted by Duncan at 4:13 PM PST on December 31

d00d, wher TF did u lRn 2 rite? i cznt mkae hedz or talez of Ur post. cmon, make senz!1!

n it shud totaly b "in2 ur pantz."
posted by diddlegnome at 4:49 PM on January 1, 2007

slight jonson

Ha!
posted by cortex at 4:53 PM on January 1, 2007

wowie, thanks for such kind words, y2karl, cgc373, and Alvy Amepersand - knowing that some people enjoy these posts is very motivating!
posted by madamjujujive at 8:04 PM on January 1, 2007

Oops! Had I known this would have upset people, I wouldn't have posted. I thought it might be fun.

Happy new year nonetheless!
posted by themadjuggler at 8:11 PM on January 1, 2007

Oops! Had I known this would have upset people, I wouldn't have posted.

Well, that's no way to get anything done around here. You should keep in mind that there are people out there who are geniunely upset by puppies. Fuck 'em.
posted by loquacious at 8:24 PM on January 1, 2007

now i'm genuinely confused that nobody called me out for the racist japanese schoolgirl snark.
posted by quonsar at 8:29 PM on January 1, 2007

You're drunk, dad--go home.
posted by y2karl at 8:43 PM on January 1, 2007 [1 favorite]

ftw?
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 8:44 PM on January 1, 2007

You're drunk, dad--go home.

He was what, three?
posted by timeistight at 9:42 PM on January 1, 2007

All fish and no pants.
posted by y2karl at 10:46 PM on January 1, 2007

wowie, thanks for such kind words, y2karl, cgc373, and Alvy Amepersand - knowing that some people enjoy these posts is very motivating!

Aw, c'mon, mjj, you know there's a kajillion folks here who really dig your posts (and perhaps also how you're one of the most civil people on the site). I'm certainly one of 'em, as I've indicated in many comments to your threads. No false modesty, please! ;-)
posted by flapjax at midnite at 12:11 AM on January 2, 2007

Can I feel wendell's too good?
posted by and hosted from Uranus at 6:02 AM on January 2, 2007

No.
posted by wendell at 11:54 AM on January 2, 2007

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