Has this happened in other threads?

May 12, 2007 8:40 PM

What, exactly, is this? It's a comment posted right before the closing that really doesn't have anything to do with the thread. (I was just looking back at my own post today and found it.) The user seems to wanted to have posted something about the thread but didn't have enough time (maybe?) but instead just posted 5 random links, two of them to Mansferd Mann's Band, two now dead YouTube links, and some crazy Scobby Doo thing. Not that I have a problem with any of it, but it just seems... weird.
posted by smallerdemon to MetaFilter-related at 8:40 PM (58 comments total)

He would have gotten away with it, too. If it wernt for those meddeling kids!
posted by Balisong at 8:49 PM on May 12, 2007 [1 favorite]

It's likely just a joke to do with 54321 being the numeric ID of the post in question. That's my read, anyway.
posted by cgc373 at 9:09 PM on May 12, 2007

cgc373 - That certainly seems to be the most logical explanation. :) Like I said, I just thought it was... odd.
posted by smallerdemon at 9:18 PM on May 12, 2007

Just to spite my having the last comment obviously.
posted by Mitheral at 9:24 PM on May 12, 2007

My take is that tellurian (who I've met, nice guy) couldn't be the person to make post #54321 so he decided to get last comment on it instead.
posted by jessamyn at 9:27 PM on May 12, 2007

C'mon Jess, little quick with the trigger there weren't you? That was a decent late-night art post. It deserved a little more time I think, to find an audience. I humbly beseech you, milady, to reconsider your hasty actions, and reinstate my post.
posted by vronsky at 9:36 PM on May 12, 2007

Fucking art posts! Make some damn sense why doncha???
posted by jonson at 9:45 PM on May 12, 2007

Yeah, I looked at all his other many posts and comments, and everything seemed pretty normal... except for that one thing.

But all the 54321 stuff makes it make more sense now. :) Thanks folks. My freaky mystery for the day has been solved.
posted by smallerdemon at 9:51 PM on May 12, 2007

(‮‮( Art post you say?‭
posted by killdevil at 9:54 PM on May 12, 2007 [2 favorites]

Okay, never mind.
posted by killdevil at 9:55 PM on May 12, 2007

Vronksky, your deleted post was cryptic and confusing. Jess was absolutely right to delete it.

Metafilter isn't about "finding an audience". And what has "late night" got to do with anything? Besides which, your post in this thread is a derail.

Not a very impressive performance.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 9:55 PM on May 12, 2007

Sigh. Looks like mathowie still isn't filtering out U+200F.
posted by Rhomboid at 10:11 PM on May 12, 2007 [1 favorite]

er, make that U+202E
posted by Rhomboid at 10:14 PM on May 12, 2007

I think vronsky is on a short lease because of his last crazy nonsense post.
posted by puke & cry at 10:43 PM on May 12, 2007

This opportunity only comes once.

Yep, that's the key. It's the countdown. I don't think the links really mattered.
posted by The Deej at 10:45 PM on May 12, 2007

short leash. not lease.
posted by puke & cry at 10:49 PM on May 12, 2007

Hot. Where's my collar?
posted by Firas at 10:52 PM on May 12, 2007

blue meanies!

How a decent little Jenny Holzer collection, addended with a cool Lee Perry track and a Twombly desktop make any less sense than jonsons bloody polar bears, could someone please explain to me.
posted by vronsky at 10:57 PM on May 12, 2007

Context, v-man. Just give us a little bit to work with. You have the power.
posted by cortex at 11:22 PM on May 12, 2007

You just need to make more sense in your posts. Add a little context or explanation or something.
posted by puke & cry at 11:36 PM on May 12, 2007

If you told me who Jenny Holzer was, who Lee Perry was, what a Twombly was, explained how they were related to one another, and explained why I should care about any of them, it might have been a decent post.

As it was, it transcended "incoherent" and attained the lofty heights of "schizophrenic".
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 1:21 AM on May 13, 2007

Jonson's post, on the other hand, was written in the English language, in complete sentences. It conveyed a summary of what I would find if I followed his link, and thus permitted me to make a rational decision whether to follow the link.

If a post makes me follow the link because I know what it will show me and I want to see it, that's good. If a post makes me follow a link because I'm trying to figure out what kind of drugs the poster is on and don't have a clue what I'll find, that's bad.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 1:24 AM on May 13, 2007

I have no dog in this fight but, if I did, it would be a pug.
posted by y2karl at 6:44 AM on May 13, 2007 [3 favorites]

Is this a good place to post Charles has a licking problem, or should I wait until the thread is about the close?

vronsky, usually with an FPP you can be cryptic with awesome links, or somewhat more straightforward with possibly less-awesome links and get away with it. As it was, the thread was filling up with "huh, wtf" "deletion in 3... 2... 1..." stuff. When that happens, if the OP hasn't come back to explain what they were getting out, it may be deletion time. Feel free to try again today, it's a brand new day after all.
posted by jessamyn at 6:53 AM on May 13, 2007 [2 favorites]

Parenthetically, why am I not in the least surprised that Mr. Den Beste has never heard of Jenny Holzer, Lee "Scratch" Perry, or Cy Twombly? After all, reasonably major touchstones in their respective fields of twentieth-century art they may well be, but they fail to breach the "saucer-eyed anime nymphets in panties" threshold of his interest.

This is not to defend vronsky, BTW, whose posts I am no closer to making sense of than anyone else.
posted by adamgreenfield at 7:02 AM on May 13, 2007

It surprises me that he wouldn't at least pretend to know about them, the way he pretends to know about every single other thing else he drones on about. He's the absolute king of pulling made-up-on-the-spot information out of his ass—why the exception in this case?
posted by interrobang at 7:36 AM on May 13, 2007

Is this a good place to post Charles has a licking problem

Jessamyn... that video gives me an idea...

:: begins crafting FPP about OCD counseling and treatment for dogs ::
posted by The Deej at 9:25 AM on May 13, 2007

After all, reasonably major touchstones in their respective fields of twentieth-century art they may well be, but they fail to breach the "saucer-eyed anime nymphets in panties" threshold of his interest.

If it were a polar bear and her cubs gruesomely eating those "saucer-eyed anime nymphets in panties," then that would be another story.
posted by y2karl at 9:40 AM on May 13, 2007

Uh, so you guys don't want to see this full length version of the Haruhi Suzumiya dance then?
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 10:11 AM on May 13, 2007

Metafilter isn't about "finding an audience". And what has "late night" got to do with anything? Besides which, your post in this thread is a derail.

Not a very impressive performance.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 12:55 AM on May 13 [+]
[!]

tsk! such a tiny penis you have.
posted by quonsar at 10:24 AM on May 13, 2007 [1 favorite]

If you told me who Jenny Holzer was, who Lee Perry was, what a Twombly was, explained how they were related to one another, and explained why I should care about any of them, it might have been a decent post.

Unable to think in a non-linear fashion, eh? Can't figure out the connections between concepts that are not related in an obvious way? No wonder you continue to support the military-industrial complex.
posted by interrobang at 10:39 AM on May 13, 2007

Scobby Dew is a great name for a pub.
posted by Ohdemah at 10:44 AM on May 13, 2007

I don't know what has gotten into everyone here. SCDB's critique of vronsky's post seemed pretty much right on to me. If you want to get your hate on, perhaps you should consider email, this just sounds likes really petty grousing about nothing to do with the original MeTa topic or even the orignal derail. To quote myself from the May Day thread [what is it with people and holidays?] "the weird fascination with getting your hate on with him everywhere and anywhere is more suitable to some alt.angry.sex.i.hate.you forum than it is here."
posted by jessamyn at 10:47 AM on May 13, 2007

Yeah, I get it, you guys all really dislike Den Beste for comments he made long before I joined metafilter, which was FIVE FUCKING YEARS AGO. Since he returned, about a year back, I've not seen much reason for all the vitriol. I mean, look at this thread - apparently he's not free to voice his opinion (a commonly held one) that vronsky's post was confusing without five people jumping down his throat for unrelated ad hominem attacks. I thought progressives were supposed to be tolerant of multiple viewpoints.
posted by jonson at 11:03 AM on May 13, 2007

Saying "these things do not make sense together" is one thing. Saying "I am too proudly ignorant to get this post" is another.
posted by interrobang at 11:05 AM on May 13, 2007

Yeah, I get it, you guys all really dislike Den Beste for comments he made long before I joined metafilter, which was FIVE FUCKING YEARS AGO.

Wow, was it really that long? I guess so. Huh. You learn something new every day.

"I've just come to hate female persons"? Jesus.

Really, jonson, when someone ventures that far beyond the pale, and hasn't in all that time expressed the sentiment that just maybe they were, y'know, badly wrong, well then I'm gonna call them on it. But then, unregenerate misogyny's one of my hot buttons. YMMV.
posted by adamgreenfield at 11:08 AM on May 13, 2007

I do apologize for the derail, though.
posted by adamgreenfield at 11:09 AM on May 13, 2007

I thought progressives were supposed to be tolerant of multiple viewpoints.

You wouldn't think that if saucer eyed anime nymphets in panties were gruesomely eating pugs...
posted by y2karl at 11:13 AM on May 13, 2007

Does he know the work of Lisa Yuskavage? (Uh, NSFW, I guess . . . )
posted by The Bellman at 11:27 AM on May 13, 2007

But c'mon guys, 7 years? I mean, for all we know, it's not even SCDB behind the post, it's freakin' peeg or some other leet hax0r who figured out that SCDB's password was Hiawatha (duh!). I spent way too much time here harassing people in unrelated threads (namely y2karl, xq, & that dude who quit & came back a bunch of times whose name I forget right now), and I'm genuinely sorry I did it. The point is, it was a stupid waste of time when an idiot like me did it, so it's WAY worse when intelligent, thoughtful people like yourselves do it. Isn't life too short to be chasing online personalities from thread to thread in a community, harassing them about comments they made days/weeks/months/nearly a goddamn decade ago?
posted by jonson at 11:28 AM on May 13, 2007

And also, vronsky, sorry I sound much more abrupt up above ("make some goddamn sense why doncha!"). It was a failed attempt at cranky guy humor. I don't mind your post, or posts that go over my head, they just remind me of my lack of cultural touchstones.
posted by jonson at 11:30 AM on May 13, 2007

I don't mind your post, or posts that go over my head, they just remind me of my lack of cultural touchstones.
posted by jonson

If jonson supposedly lacks cultural touchstones, then I must be the village idiot of cultural touchstones.
posted by The Deej at 11:47 AM on May 13, 2007

Saying "these things do not make sense together" is one thing. Saying "I am too proudly ignorant to get this post" is another.

Misinterpreting what someone was saying because you have a hate-on for them is also another thing. If I had said the same thing you would have assumed I was saying that it might be a good idea to add some extra information, not that I have no idea who these people are. Read it again.

If you told me who Jenny Holzer was, who Lee Perry was, what a Twombly was, explained how they were related to one another, and explained why I should care about any of them, it might have been a decent post.

Paraphrased charitably: "Your post was a bit cryptic for people who don't already know who these people are." I'm sure SCDB could have phrased it better. I'm sure he could phrase a lot of things better. So could I. So could you.

adamgreenfield, the post you dug up and so helpfully linked to was from 2000. Many of us have had our entire worlds changed since then. These sorts of scarlet letter antics are beneath you. Brand new day. I'm going outside.
posted by jessamyn at 11:56 AM on May 13, 2007

Yeah, and we can all forgive me for humping that ottoman too, while we're at it.
posted by fleacircus at 12:43 PM on May 13, 2007

Cool jess, I'll save my "tightass librarian" comeback for stormier threads.

And no hate towards you den Beste, but adamgreenfield is right, there is a definite Henry Darger vibe going on at your blog.

And I think I may have fallen back in love with karl. Advize?
posted by vronsky at 12:49 PM on May 13, 2007

Wow. Some scary malevolence there.
posted by Firas at 4:10 PM on May 13, 2007 [1 favorite]

Yeah, it was just what jessamyn said (especially the bit about me being a nice guy). The dead 4. I can't even remember what 3 was.
posted by tellurian at 4:38 PM on May 13, 2007

What's going on here vronsky? Did you choose that thread on purpose or was it just dumb luck?
posted by tellurian at 5:23 PM on May 13, 2007

am I the only one who wanted to see one more comment after his saying "pwn3d?"
posted by shmegegge at 5:37 PM on May 13, 2007

Not sure what you mean tellurian. It was my thread from a few days ago.
posted by vronsky at 6:04 PM on May 13, 2007

It's an unrelated comment about a deletion of a post that came up in this metatalk thread about an unrelated comment I made in a post. It was clear from my last comment (the one before yours) that I would be going back into that thread to comment. So, did you put it there knowing I would see it or not? Or is that all too meta and I'm doing that thing with beans?
posted by tellurian at 7:53 PM on May 13, 2007

tellurian, for what it's worth, after the 54321 thing was pointed out, I actually quite appreciated that you were able to pull that post off. It was so obvious yet so obscure all at once. Although now I'm feeling a little weird about where all this thread ended up going. Sub-Meta-Talk is strange.
posted by smallerdemon at 9:18 PM on May 13, 2007

heh! You don't know the half of it smallerdemon. I got the idea from this post. I had it ready to go for five months and just sat on it waiting for the post count to reach the magic number. As I said in the comment, after waiting all that time I missed it by logging in half an hour late. I didn't want to disrupt your thread so I just posted it at the last minute [for my own amusement really, I never expected anybody to see it].
posted by tellurian at 9:53 PM on May 13, 2007

Thwarted by the by the power of My Comments.

who put the right to left character in this thread?
posted by Mitheral at 11:05 PM on May 13, 2007

Oh! and I made this comment in a thread one year later. It was on topic though.
posted by tellurian at 11:44 PM on May 13, 2007

Many of us have had our entire worlds changed since then.

was it 9/11, dear?
posted by quonsar at 8:43 AM on May 14, 2007

Wow, was it really that long? I guess so. Huh. You learn something new every day.


Tell me about it. Content aside, how did that not get tarred & feathered for being a self-link?
posted by juv3nal at 11:00 AM on May 14, 2007

Tarring and feathering for self-links was not something that began when metafilter itself began. It was a later development, a reaction to the early fumbling explorations that defined the inchoate, finding-its-feet throes of the site's early existence. Even the phrase "self-link" was slow to come into common parlance.

Heck, Metatalk had only been around for a few months at that point.
posted by cortex at 11:19 AM on May 14, 2007