He likes education, thinks he's innocent, so what? July 18, 2008 7:30 PM   Subscribe

I haven't done this in a while, but: This post sucks. It should be culled.

It's a lazy back-formation based on a CNN bit that doesn't actually have any meat to it. It will be a dead link soon enough, and the "blog" itself has only a couple of entries and nothing recent.

I don't think Wallstreet1929 is a bad person or anything, but this post is at best just failing at being provocative.
posted by klangklangston to Etiquette/Policy at 7:30 PM (74 comments total) 1 user marked this as a favorite

Agreed. Newsfilter, deadwhitechickfilter, etc. Also "Laci Mom not happy" is like two or three standard deviations down from the general level of discourse around here.
posted by signal at 7:37 PM on July 18, 2008


I guess my real beef was that there didn't seem to be anything to be learned once you'd read the text of the post—Scott Peterson does indeed have something moderately similar to a web log. Laci Peterson's mom does, in fact, not like that.
posted by klangklangston at 7:39 PM on July 18, 2008 [2 favorites]


I assumed you were talking about the Starbucks post (a list of closings...really?), but I agree that this is also lame.
posted by dhammond at 7:39 PM on July 18, 2008


I would also support the deletion of this as I disapprove of Metafilter participating in the HOLY FUCKING SHIT A PRETTY NON-POOR WHITE WOMAN IS MISSING/DEAD trope.
posted by TheOnlyCoolTim at 7:40 PM on July 18, 2008


Yeah, I flagged the post.

Did the rest of you?
posted by konolia at 7:52 PM on July 18, 2008


Nope. I saw 'Peterson' and 'Laci' and skipped on by to that crazy flash game that I couldn't really figure out.
posted by Science! at 7:54 PM on July 18, 2008


Every time I see that post I just hear Cameron saying "This is Scott Peterson" (even though I'm pretty sure it was really George).
posted by solipsophistocracy at 7:57 PM on July 18, 2008


Agreed. This is easily the worst post since the one about Cheap Trick's Surrender.
posted by juiceCake at 7:59 PM on July 18, 2008


I saw a few flags early on but it did seem to fit in bizarro world category [like "wtf is this, that's weird"] but yeah I sort of agree. Let me get it.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 7:59 PM on July 18, 2008


okay, gotten.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 8:00 PM on July 18, 2008


I had a dream O.J. Simpson wrote a book called "Yeah, I Did It."
posted by Citizen Premier at 8:05 PM on July 18, 2008


THE SYSTEM WORKS!
posted by klangklangston at 8:26 PM on July 18, 2008


or

ZOMG CENZORSHIPS!

(sorry)
posted by klangklangston at 8:27 PM on July 18, 2008


Erm, boring. And sad. Why?
posted by cior at 8:36 PM on July 18, 2008


Well the system took 12+ hours and a call out to work in this case. The wheels of justice grind slowly. Now for that Starbucks thread.
posted by Big_B at 8:38 PM on July 18, 2008


I would also support the deletion of this as I disapprove of Metafilter participating in the HOLY FUCKING SHIT A PRETTY NON-POOR WHITE WOMAN IS MISSING/DEAD trope.
posted by TheOnlyCoolTim at 10:40 PM on July 18 [+] [!]


Please start posting about poor missing/dead minority women. We all crave your approval.
posted by matty at 9:17 PM on July 18, 2008 [2 favorites]


I was wondering when that was going to get deleted.
posted by Burhanistan at 9:26 PM on July 18, 2008


Please start posting about poor missing/dead minority women.

He didn't say he cares about missing/dead poor/non-white women, just that he dislikes people caring about rich white ones.
posted by jacalata at 9:32 PM on July 18, 2008 [1 favorite]


Man, I hate to be That Guy, but serious non snarky question: why not just flag it and move on? I'm not saying I disagree with the point that the post sucked, or anything.
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 9:38 PM on July 18, 2008


Man, I hate to be That Guy, but serious non snarky question: why not just flag it and move on?

And yet, Mr. That Guy, with this callout that crappy post is now history. Notice how you posted after it was deleted? One of the mods is on vacation so maybe not every single post across the site is getting the same level of eager attention as usual.
posted by Burhanistan at 9:46 PM on July 18, 2008


CitrusFreak12 writes "Man, I hate to be That Guy, but serious non snarky question: why not just flag it and move on? I'm not saying I disagree with the point that the post sucked, or anything."

Serious but non-snarky question: why do people care about keeping metafilter "pure" at all? It's a list of links. You don't like a link, go to the next one. If it's posted, somebody thought it was good enought to post, and with 60000 members (or whatever), odds are that there are at least another ten who will enjoy the post for whatever their reasons.

It's not like we're compiling The Canon, the Only Authorized Version of 'Teh Intarwerbs' that will last down through time when all Fark and Reddit and Digg are dust.

I have almost never flagged anything, preferring to ignore or if really necessary, refute, and I don't think I'm missing much. I honestly don't understand the the desire to "cull" a post.
posted by orthogonality at 9:51 PM on July 18, 2008 [4 favorites]


"Man, I hate to be That Guy, but serious non snarky question: why not just flag it and move on? I'm not saying I disagree with the point that the post sucked, or anything."

Look, I signed up for MetaFilterPlus so that I could delete an FPP a month. Otherwise, what's the point?

(I did flag it earlier today, then came back to see it still there, decided to articulate why I didn't like it and bring it up in case the mods had been putting out fires elsewhere. If they'd looked at it and decided not to delete, they'd say so and I'd mutter about stavros being right and go back to screwing around elsewhere.)

"Serious but non-snarky question: why do people care about keeping metafilter "pure" at all? It's a list of links. You don't like a link, go to the next one. If it's posted, somebody thought it was good enought to post, and with 60000 members (or whatever), odds are that there are at least another ten who will enjoy the post for whatever their reasons."

High signal-to-noise ratio benefits everyone. The reason most of us are here, rather than Digg or Fark, is because we like the general editorial policies. Seeing crap on the front page lowers the bar; I didn't like that post and I said so.
posted by klangklangston at 10:06 PM on July 18, 2008 [7 favorites]


He didn't say he cares about missing/dead poor/non-white women, just that he dislikes people caring about rich white ones.

Don't forget looks. If she was still middle/upper class and white but homely I bet no one would have heard jack shit about this.
posted by TheOnlyCoolTim at 10:13 PM on July 18, 2008


"I assumed you were talking about the Starbucks post (a list of closings...really?), but I agree that this is also lame."
The Starbucks post stays because plexi posted it.
posted by Sailormom at 10:35 PM on July 18, 2008


why do people care about keeping metafilter "pure" at all?

'cuz it's supposed to be a "filter"?
posted by tkolar at 10:50 PM on July 18, 2008 [1 favorite]


And yet, Mr. That Guy, with this callout that crappy post is now history.

In other words, a whiner rewarded.
posted by Dave Faris at 11:40 PM on July 18, 2008


I didn't like that post and I said so.

I don't like this post.
posted by sluglicker at 11:48 PM on July 18, 2008


To elaborate, perhaps less harshly ... you would have achieved your goal by sending an IM or an email to the admins. The post would have probably been just as deleted, but you wouldn't have perpetuated the idea that petulantly stomping your feet in Metatalk is the proper way to deal with something you don't like on the front page, when flagging it should have been enough.
posted by Dave Faris at 11:55 PM on July 18, 2008 [3 favorites]


Where does one stomp petulantly about petulant stomping about petulant stomping?
(lǝʌɐɹʇ :ɐ)
posted by carsonb at 12:32 AM on July 19, 2008


This post doesn't suck ;-)
posted by vronsky at 1:05 AM on July 19, 2008


At least it wasn't cake farting
posted by edgeways at 1:13 AM on July 19, 2008 [1 favorite]


Thanks vronsky - I clicked on that too.
posted by Samuel Farrow at 1:13 AM on July 19, 2008


Good cull.
posted by fourcheesemac at 3:40 AM on July 19, 2008


At least it wasn't cake farting

Cake farting shouldn't have been deleted. For example, the internet practically started with Mr. T and Chewbacca eating my balls.
posted by TheOnlyCoolTim at 3:48 AM on July 19, 2008 [1 favorite]


Citizen Premier wrote: I had a dream O.J. Simpson wrote a book called "Yeah, I Did It."

He did, but it was very short.
posted by jack_mo at 4:54 AM on July 19, 2008


why do people care about keeping metafilter "pure" at all? It's a list of links. You don't like a link, go to the next one.

Orthogonality, because that way is the path to perdition and mediocrity. Some actually do believe in at least aspiring to "best of the web" quaint as that notion might seem. And the stuff tkolar said about "filter."

flagging it should have been enough

Dave Faris, I so often agree with you but part ways on this issue, guy. I think there is a value in the discussion that ensues from peer review and self policing. While I have been on record numerous times saying that I disagree with people trying to nix entire topics (politics, news, controversial issues), these posts should be held to a high standard. I think it's appropriate to bring some discussions to metatalk - reading the back and forth is how partly how I formulated the idea of what does and doesn't make a good post back in my newbie days.
posted by madamjujujive at 6:46 AM on July 19, 2008 [3 favorites]


Also "Laci Mom not happy" is like two or three standard deviations down from the general level of discourse around here.

not reading too closely these days, i see...
posted by quonsar at 7:25 AM on July 19, 2008 [1 favorite]


Good cull very happy. Now make babby.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 7:39 AM on July 19, 2008 [1 favorite]


11/18/04 NEVAR FORGET
posted by Dreamghost at 8:10 AM on July 19, 2008


quonsar writes "not reading too closely these days, i see..."

General Level, of course some members are known to be outliers.
posted by Mitheral at 8:28 AM on July 19, 2008


"The post would have probably been just as deleted, but you wouldn't have perpetuated the idea that petulantly stomping your feet in Metatalk is the proper way to deal with something you don't like on the front page, when flagging it should have been enough."

Petulant foot-stomping? Whining? I know, Mr. Faris, that your unique constitution imputes an acerbic and petty tone to everything you observe (truly, it's the only way your responses make sense sometimes), but I wish that wouldn't get in the way of your ability to read and reason. I did flag the post, as I noted. Several hours later, nothing had happened. I decided, as the youth speak, to call it out. I gave my reasoning, people agreed, the post was deleted. I could have IMed a mod, but by posting "in public," I'm conceding that hey, I might be wrong—people might love this post and explain to me how babby is made why it should stay and why I'm being unreasonable.

But that didn't happen, did it?
posted by klangklangston at 9:14 AM on July 19, 2008 [1 favorite]


klangklangston used MetaTalk for exactly what it is intended for. This cannot be permitted. Let's burn him at the stake!
posted by grouse at 9:20 AM on July 19, 2008


They need to do way instain modders> who kill posts. becuse these posts cant frigth back?
posted by TheOnlyCoolTim at 9:28 AM on July 19, 2008 [1 favorite]


HTMFAIL.
posted by tkolar at 9:50 AM on July 19, 2008


HTMFAIL? Because of the angle bracket in my post? Look it up, I wasn't trying for HTML.
posted by TheOnlyCoolTim at 10:05 AM on July 19, 2008


This post also is very lacking on any suckiness.
posted by Burhanistan at 10:45 AM on July 19, 2008 [1 favorite]


Were you trying for english?
posted by ook at 10:59 AM on July 19, 2008


Also no suckiness here B-han. You know, for balance.
posted by vronsky at 12:04 PM on July 19, 2008


HTMFAIL? Because of the angle bracket in my post? Look it up, I wasn't trying for HTML.

Ah, I see, you were impersonating a sub-literate cretin. Well done!
posted by tkolar at 12:04 PM on July 19, 2008


Let's burn him at the stake!

Let's fart on his cake!
posted by homunculus at 2:06 PM on July 19, 2008 [1 favorite]


I notice that there have been several posts on the front page today that were deleted without having someone make a stink about them on Metatalk. WTF?
posted by Dave Faris at 2:35 PM on July 19, 2008


It's Caturday, no one is at work!
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 2:41 PM on July 19, 2008


I notice that there have been several posts on the front page today that were deleted without having someone make a stink about them on Metatalk. WTF?

There seems to be some back-hair poking out of your shirt collar. And you seem to have over-applied your make-up today.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 2:50 PM on July 19, 2008 [2 favorites]


"I notice that there have been several posts on the front page today that were deleted without having someone make a stink about them on Metatalk. WTF?"

I know! Good on the mods for getting them!

Oh, you didn't mean it that way? Why, whatever else could you have been coyly hinting at?

Because if you were really against petulant whining, wouldn't you have, you know, stopped your meta-carp here?

What are the other possibilities? You want the Scott Peterson blog post back? You want to discourage me or others from using MeTa to complain about posts?

The former's unlikely, the latter's fairly futile.

Or do you just want someone to take your opinion seriously and validate you? Because for that, you may be in the wrong place.
posted by klangklangston at 3:50 PM on July 19, 2008


No. I make the point that just because you don't like something, and because the mods were take too long for your precious self, it doesn't justify making yet another metatalk post when there's already an adequate system to handle your complaint. The fact that Jessamyn immediately bowed to your command will only encourage people with poor impulse control to make similar posts here. There's no reason to take it personally. We just disagree.
posted by Dave Faris at 4:52 PM on July 19, 2008 [1 favorite]


and because the mods were take too long for your precious self,

If you're going to throw out that kind of language then you can't expect people not to take it personally, as you enjoin.
posted by Burhanistan at 5:10 PM on July 19, 2008


Wasn't Laci actually Mexican?
posted by jonmc at 5:13 PM on July 19, 2008


"The fact that Jessamyn immediately bowed to your command will only encourage people with poor impulse control to make similar posts here."

Like I said, the system works.

(I do like the thought of Jessamyn scampering off to heed my every whim, as you make it sound. It's because I totally jinxed her once and she didn't buy me a Coke before she spoke, so now she's my slave forever. You'd better watch out, or I'll have her turn your username into a scrolling .gif that says "LOLBUTTZ.")
posted by klangklangston at 5:17 PM on July 19, 2008


I bet greasemonkey can do that.

Why hasn't anyone registered the username greasemonkey yet? Or its variations?
posted by jacalata at 5:36 PM on July 19, 2008


will only encourage people with poor impulse control to make similar posts here

I haven't done this in a while, but: This user is acting like a jackass. He should be culled.

He's in an angry and paranoid mood and doesn't have much rationality in'em. He'll keep going on like this and really, who needs that shit?

I don't think Dave is a bad person or anything, but his comments are at best just failing at making sense.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 6:03 PM on July 19, 2008


Why do you notice the beam in your brother's eye, but do not perceive the moonbeam in your own eye?
posted by vronsky at 7:24 PM on July 19, 2008


so now she's my slave forever.

I have a great idea for a t-shirt...
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 11:24 PM on July 19, 2008


Wow. Now, there's a story where it's easy to hate everyone involved.
posted by klangklangston at 1:36 AM on July 20, 2008


I probably just need new glasses, but when I looked at the tiny version of that picture, I could've sworn that t-shirt read GRAMMA IS MY SLAVE. I'm all like, "Man, that's fucked up," imagining the dude wearing it as some social mutant who lives with his grandmother, sponging off her Social Security benefits and ordering her to bring him a beer and his slippers and shit. Having read RTFA, it's even more fucked up, because the real situation is vile in a way I didn't even anticipate, and I'm also willing to bet he actually does beat up his gramma and live off her Social Security. He seems like that kind of guy.
posted by kittens for breakfast at 4:21 AM on July 20, 2008


klangklangston: Or do you just want someone to take your opinion seriously and validate you? Because for that, you may be in the wrong place.

Link to the right place please? I want to be there.
posted by headnsouth at 5:41 AM on July 20, 2008


a great idea for a t-shirt...

That story can't be real, it's a publicity stunt of the designer. After all no one would spend $69 for t-shirt.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 6:04 AM on July 20, 2008


Wow, there are still some serious untapped deposits of stupidity left in the US & A, eh jessamyn?
posted by Mister_A at 6:05 AM on July 20, 2008


Stupidity is the ultimate renewable resource.
posted by tkolar at 12:12 PM on July 20, 2008


After all no one would spend $69 for t-shirt.

Now you understand why people hate hipsters.
posted by jonmc at 1:08 PM on July 20, 2008


Nothing in that story offers sufficient explanation of why people hate.
posted by carsonb at 1:44 PM on July 20, 2008


After all no one would spend $69 for t-shirt.

People give lots of money to Urban Outfitters, and that shop is run by crypto-fascists.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 2:24 PM on July 20, 2008


Nothing in that story offers sufficient explanation of why people hate.

People generally hate because of envy, fear, anger, disgust, or righteousness. or some combination thereof. Sufficient? Who the hell knows, but what would be?
posted by jonmc at 5:20 PM on July 20, 2008


I wouldn't call disdain for hipsters "hate" so much as an inbuilt biological instinct to kill off evolutionary blind alleys. We rationalize it away as "hate" in that case because of misplaced sympathies.
posted by Burhanistan at 6:03 PM on July 20, 2008


if all it takes to call yourself a clothing designer is a willingness to put black helvetica text on a t shirt, then shit I'm like the god damn Calvin Klein of cafepress.
posted by shmegegge at 9:20 AM on July 21, 2008


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