Not THAT kind of Revival.... March 20, 2010 1:51 PM   Subscribe

Auckland, lets meet.

Sure this could have been a better post, but function over form, number 8 wire and all that. Lets meet up.

When? Weekends work better for everyone, right?

What area? CBD? Somewhere close to Britomart? Viaduct maybe?

Where? I'm guessing beer over wine, but overall, alcohol over no alcohol?

Summer's gone away, but we aren't scared of autumn, right?

So how about it. Lets hear some suggestions and meetup!

Who's down, who has restrictions, and who has good ideas?
posted by hal_c_on to MetaFilter Gatherings at 1:51 PM (85 comments total)

This is my favourite time of year. Beer is my favourite drink although I like wine too. Metafilter is my favourite website. Talking to people is my favourite activity. So all signs point to yes.

I can do weeknights or weekends except this Saturday evening because we're going to see Minuit (which I recommend everyone else does too, they rule). I get around by bus so bars anywhere central townish works well otherwise on a bus route. Apparently Squid Row does a cheap cocktail hour every evening from 5 to 8, I recently had fun at the Nuffield St Brew Bar, I've enjoyed the Bluestone Room in the past, the Loaded Hog makes great beer, and I'm always up for somewhere new.

Hustling people behind the scenes to point out this metatalk thread can be effective (done in moderation), kiwis can be laid back to the point of not actually doing stuff but we have fun once we're going.
posted by shelleycat at 3:40 PM on March 20, 2010


Oh and I don't need alcohol to have a good time FWIW. So daytime hanging out is also fine assuming someone comes up with an idea (since I'm a bit short on those right now).
posted by shelleycat at 3:44 PM on March 20, 2010


I just paid my $5 (actually my $7.24 NZD) to say a meet up would be great. Britomart / Viaduct is great for transport or parking. Weekends are best for me!
posted by nixit at 5:57 PM on March 20, 2010


Well, I might be in for this. Can I suggest the Mezze Bar in Durham Ln?
posted by Miss Otis' Egrets at 6:09 PM on March 20, 2010


Oh, and I meant to say, hal_c_on, that's a neat trick with your profile! We all need more broccoli.
posted by Miss Otis' Egrets at 6:10 PM on March 20, 2010


How soon were you thinking? Wouldn't mind coming up from Chch, I've been meaning to visit friends up there anyway.
posted by tracicle at 1:05 PM on March 21, 2010


I just moved to Waihi, so it's a wee drive (though a long walk, and I'm currently carless). Nevertheless, I'll pay attention and hopefully the general concensus of a date is one I can make it up for. Later rather than sooner would be better for me, if it comes to it.

Oh, and a vote for beer and wine.
posted by twirlypen at 3:33 AM on March 22, 2010


We can always do both, meetup now and again later! But in reality organising a bunch of scatty Aucklanders takes time anyway so waiting a few weeks probably makes sense.

Then you can all hear my exciting tales about macrophages, thesis writing, and publishing priority fights.
posted by shelleycat at 1:15 PM on March 22, 2010


Hooray, an Auckland meetup! I'm definitely in. Another vote for an alcohol-enhanced, weekend, conveniently-CBD event.

Miss Otis' Egrets, I was JUST at the Mezze Bar and I agree, it's great. Or we could get a big table or room at the Elliott Stables just off Queen Street-- that way everyone could find something they like to eat and drink...
posted by oceanmorning at 5:37 PM on March 22, 2010


Sure, I'm keen no particular worries about where and when.
posted by scodger at 11:18 PM on March 22, 2010


So maybe we should start narrowing things down a bit? I'm actually busy all this weekend as I just remembered that Boyd's doing The Duel on Saturday (I'll be dragging him along btw, he's friendly despite his non-mefite ways). But I'm free next weekend either day.
posted by shelleycat at 11:24 PM on March 22, 2010


I'm with the hustler on this; lets start narrowing things down.

When? Lets start to naildown a date in April.

Narrower when? Weekend or weeknight.

Where? I hear Mezze, Viaduct, Elliott Stables, Squid Row, Nuffield St Brew Bar, Bluestone Room, Loaded Hog.

What? Beer, wine, and seriously though...where is alcohol not available?

OH...and this post will probably be on the 5th metatalk page before we actually nail things down, so lets all subscribe to this thread. It'll keep us abreast of whats up.

Now lets start talking about when, where, etc we DONT want to do stuff.

I say no sunday meetup. Not this first one...maybe when we're all comfortable enough with each other...but not the first meetup.

Now I want to hear more "Can't" and "don't" words outta you mefities.
posted by hal_c_on at 12:54 AM on March 24, 2010


How about one evening the week after Easter? I can't do the week after or the week before.
posted by Miss Otis' Egrets at 2:30 PM on March 24, 2010


I'd forgotten about Easter. I'll be around (and working bleh) but I imagine most people have better things to be doing. Specially after the dearth of public holidays this year.

If I look through April I see that the 17th is bad but every other Fri or Sat is free at this point. I looked at the Mezze website and it does look nice (I had to stop looking at the menu because it was making me hungry), so I'm happy with that option.
posted by shelleycat at 3:15 PM on March 24, 2010


I'm going to put in a solid date request: Thursday 15 April at ... anywhere ... Thursday because it's nearly the weekend but not quite and because it will give me some incentive to finish an assignment that is due on Saturday 16th.

Place: I'm fine with any place that has decently priced drink and decently priced food to soak up that drink.
posted by nixit at 11:02 PM on March 24, 2010


Ack. My assignment is due on Saturday the 17th. So much for my proofreading skills.
posted by nixit at 11:03 PM on March 24, 2010


Nixit, I think we're making progress.

I see a date request, and a request to have it on the weekend...so how about we nail that down.

Thursday the 15th, or Friday the 16th...evening. Which is better for you? Yes, yes...I know that Date X would work much better for you, but come on, we're planning a night out, not a staff meeting.

Lets figure out the date, and then we can move on to the venue. Knowing the date in advance, we will be able to use that to our advantage in the hopes of having cheaper drinks or free food or something...maybe.

So yeah...write back and tell us which is better, the 15th or the 16th of April.
posted by hal_c_on at 12:01 AM on March 25, 2010


Hmm. Pretty sure I'm tramping in the Whirinaki that whole week. Wonderful bird life but the food's not great and there's no beer. Unless I've got my weeks mixed up - must check when I get home.
posted by Miss Otis' Egrets at 1:35 PM on March 25, 2010


I can't do Wednesdays or Thursdays. Boyd's also busy either Mon or Tue of each week in April but which one varies from week to week.
posted by shelleycat at 2:03 PM on March 25, 2010


So...we were back to Thursday the 15th or Friday the 16th.

Nixit is down for Thursday.
I am down for Thurs or Friday.

Shelleycat has said that she is not down for that Thursday, which still doesn't mean she's down for Friday.
and
Miss Otis' Egrets has yet to confirm.

Everybody else is quiet.

So...anybody?

Also, how about tossing a date in the air, if you shoot something down? That should have a catalyzing effect to this process.
posted by hal_c_on at 12:39 AM on March 28, 2010


Hello all, allow me to de-lurk and summarise: Ruling out Easter, Mondays (Me, also shellycat's Boyd half the time), Tuesdays (Boyd half the time, general keeping-things-simple and too-early-in-the-week principals), Wednesdays, Thursdays and Saturday 17th (shellycat), The week of the 12th (Miss Otis' Egrets, unless he has mixed up his weeks) and Sundays (hal_c_on) the days still available in April are:

Fri 9th
Sat 10th
Fri 23rd
Sat 24th (the day before ANZAC day)
Fri 30th

Not captured there are preferences for "weekend" (nixit, who paid $7.24 to say so, but maybe "weekend" can include Fri evening?) and "later" (twirlypen).
posted by Canard de Vasco at 4:34 AM on March 28, 2010


Definitely out of town 12th-16th. My preference is for Fri 9th or Fri 23rd.
posted by Miss Otis' Egrets at 2:13 PM on March 28, 2010


I'm usually free on Fridays (and Saturday's actually) so I think the 9th and 23rd are OK but I left my diary at home today so I'll need to double check and confirm later. I've had to start outsourcing the remembering part of my brain since I've run out of room for it in my skull.

Lots of the midweek stuff is just general Phd student end of thesis crap where I work a million hours a week while my supervisors attempt to increase my workload for no reason. But by Friday I've run out of steam so I get an evening off.
posted by shelleycat at 6:47 PM on March 28, 2010


For example I have no idea what I'm doing on the 17th but I was looking at my diary when I declared it busy so I'm guessing it must be something!
posted by shelleycat at 6:49 PM on March 28, 2010


My diary says I'm free every Friday and all other Saturdays in April so 9th, 23rd or even 30th would be fine.
posted by shelleycat at 10:50 PM on March 28, 2010


9th, 10th, or 23rd for me.
posted by oceanmorning at 7:49 PM on March 29, 2010


I'm leaning towards the 23rd personally simply because I'm completely utterly exhausted right now and I should be less so by then. But I'll drag myself out for mefites next week if I have to and you can marvel at the black rings I'm generating under my eyes.
posted by shelleycat at 10:00 PM on March 29, 2010


I may be able to fly up the weekend of the 23rd-25th. Just need to persuade husband it's REALLY important.
posted by tracicle at 10:34 PM on March 29, 2010


Yep, flights are cheap enough. So I'm putting my name down for the 23rd or sometime that weekend.
posted by tracicle at 10:37 PM on March 29, 2010


The 23rd suits me fine. Saturday 24th not sure at the moment.
posted by nixit at 12:25 AM on March 30, 2010


The 23rd is great for me.
posted by Miss Otis' Egrets at 12:48 AM on March 30, 2010


Weekends best for me (I hate 5pm traffic) - weekend from 23-24-25 Apri is open.
posted by arzakh at 3:32 PM on March 30, 2010


Nuts. Not only am I working the weekend of the 23rd, my parents are flying here for a visit arriving that day. Count me out, I'm afraid, but I'm keen if you guys are up for one down the track...
posted by twirlypen at 11:49 PM on March 30, 2010


APRIL 23 IT IS!!!
Here are the people who are down with that:

arzakh
miss otis egrets
nixit
tracicle
shelleycat
oceanmorning
canard de vasco
hal_c_on

Amazing, guys.
If only we can get scodger and twirlypen to confirm...that would be a 100% confirmation from all participants on this thread...but even now we're at 80%. Amazing.

NOW...where do we wanna rock?

Viaduct, Mezze, Bluestone Room, Loaded Hog, Elliott (I'll second those last three) are the only ones that have more than one vote each. They also are centrally located which makes it easy for walkers, drivers, and transit users. Any other suggestions, or should we try to narrow it down from there?

It only took us 242 hours to narrow down a date...and now we have 550 hours to nail down a venue!
posted by hal_c_on at 11:56 PM on March 30, 2010


I think the Mezze bar sounds good and it had a couple of supporters already. How big is it, how loud is it and how easy to get a table? Somewhere we don't need to worry so much about exact numbers could be useful for encouraging last minute joiners. But I'm not fussy either, the other places sound good. (unhelpful I know!).

Do you want me to post a new thread pointing to this one (maybe in the morning for all the work-place metafilterers)? More exposure is always good.
posted by shelleycat at 12:56 AM on March 31, 2010


Any of those places have wifi?
posted by tracicle at 2:16 AM on March 31, 2010


Do you want me to post a new thread pointing to this one (maybe in the morning for all the work-place metafilterers)? More exposure is always good.

Agreed, but I already registered it, so we'll always be on the metatalk sidebar (check it out).

Any of those places have wifi?

I laughed out loud at work...and then realized that this is a group of people who are going to converse in meatspace. So...is that a joke...or for real? No judgement, just wondering...
posted by hal_c_on at 8:29 PM on March 31, 2010


I look at metatalk every day and if I didn't see it on the sidebar then I guarantee most other people won't either :-P

(I did see it a couple of days ago but only because I already knew to look there)
posted by shelleycat at 9:04 PM on March 31, 2010


Right well it was deleted so we'll just have to hope that people are looking.
posted by shelleycat at 9:05 PM on March 31, 2010


(I realised after the fact that my last comment sounded pissy which was totally not the case, I was just posting quickly before I escaped from work)
posted by shelleycat at 11:41 PM on March 31, 2010


I think everyone on here owes shelleycat a drink for her proactive enthusiasm. We should turn this into a regular thing; have a regular thread dedicated to the next auckland meetup.
Or...maybe we should wait and see if we like each other.
Anyways...here are some places I found out through work that are great at seating lots of people(right now we have 8 confirmed...and I'm guessing there's gonna be some SO's coming...and some lurkers who haven't voiced their opinion...maybe 15...even 20???):

Tanuki (emphasis on "not the cave")-Great for big groups, we take our shoes off sit on the floor and eat at a communal table. Plenty of hot and cold sake, and traditional japanese restaurant fare. On queen street in cbd

Mexican Cafe-Victoria street (off queen street). Can you really go wrong with Tequilla and Aztec ice cream? The great thing about this place is our options:
If we want to make it early and get out early, there's the happy hour menu that starts at 17:00.

We can have a nice dinner, or snacks, or just drinks all the way from 19:00 to 23:00.

BUT, if we kick some ass and stay up after that we will definitely want to embarass ourselves in front of DJ King Salsa. I actually cannot think of a worse stereotypical name for a Chilean in NZ.

Something for everyone.

I'm kinda leaning towards Mexican Cafe...would you guys have a look and tell me what you think? I may be coming from a different opinion...but it seems kinda:
1. drinky
2. fun-inducing
3. laid back if we want
4. cheap-ish for drinks ($6.50 for monteiths, and $20 for a JUG of margaritas).
5. Kinda ok for food prices...although it is around $20 for somewhere in the city on a friday night is kinda a deal.
6. We can do everything online including our group booking.

What do you guys think?
posted by hal_c_on at 11:48 PM on March 31, 2010


I have sampled the Mexican Cafe's margarita by the jug and can vouch for it being a fun time. And not much else because we had several. I like that idea.
posted by shelleycat at 12:29 AM on April 1, 2010


Thirding Mexican Cafe. Margaritas, Mexican food, meetup!
posted by oceanmorning at 1:31 AM on April 1, 2010


Sounds great; there's a Mexican Cafe in Chch and it's always good quality.
posted by tracicle at 2:35 PM on April 1, 2010


The Mexi? I haven't been there for years, like about 15. I'm in!
Do they still do the chilli ice cream?
posted by Miss Otis' Egrets at 8:25 PM on April 1, 2010


The Mexican Cafe sounds good to me!
posted by nixit at 1:06 AM on April 5, 2010


Sure, sounds good.
posted by scodger at 9:23 PM on April 5, 2010


April 23rd, Mexican Cafe it is!

Now a few more questions so that we can pile on the text in the metafilter servers:

1. The easy question...what time should we start? I may show up at 5pm to start sampling the food (and drinks) during happy hour...but I have no curfew so I'll be staying till DJ King Salsa boots me out. Oh...I guess that question is answered...show up anytime after 5pm? Does that sound good?

2. How many people should we expect. This thread has received 9 confirmations for the 23rd, and 7 confirmations for Mexican Cafe. Its going to be a friday night, so I want to be as accurate as possible for booking a table. Guests, Girls, and Boy(d)s, are welcome cuz that's how we roll...so I'm kinda wanting to say 20...but I don't want it to be 5 people sitting 3 seats away from the next person so we take up all 20 spots. I'm also hoping that people who didn't write on here will show up...but realistically, its not probable...right?
posted by hal_c_on at 5:54 PM on April 6, 2010


I've booked my flights, so I'll be there for sure! I'm staying with a friend in Ellerslie and she's not home until 5:30ish, so I may not get there until closer to 7.
posted by tracicle at 2:28 AM on April 7, 2010


tracicle: I live (and work) in that area. I plan on catching the train from the Ellerslie station. Maybe we could coordinate our getting-to-the-meetup efforts?
posted by Miss Otis' Egrets at 3:31 PM on April 7, 2010


I'd love to come up from Welly for this (thanks to tracicle for suggesting that) but I don't think I can manage at this point. Have fun folks!
posted by i_am_joe's_spleen at 6:59 PM on April 7, 2010


joe's_spleen: Another time, then. Miss Otis' Regrets, that would be fab. I'll wear the pink carnation.
posted by tracicle at 10:27 PM on April 7, 2010


We should all wear pink carnations. It sounds like the kind of thing we could buy fake and cheap from Geoff's emporium.

I don't know what time I'll arrive because it's too far way but I'll have an idea closer to the time. It will be some time after-work-ish.
posted by shelleycat at 10:59 PM on April 7, 2010


Ok guys, can you just make it kinda clear about whether you're coming...and if so, if you're bringing a guest so I can make the booking. They won't accept my "Between 7 and 20", so I'm gonna have to narrow it down and hopefully you'll help me so we can all be seated when we're nerding out.
posted by hal_c_on at 12:01 AM on April 13, 2010


I am coming for sure and we will be two. Probably sometime around six but I can confirm that early next week.
posted by shelleycat at 12:55 AM on April 13, 2010


I'll be alone. I'd bring my friend but I'm sure she wouldn't appreciate the awesomeness of a Mefi meetup.
posted by tracicle at 10:52 PM on April 13, 2010


Yeap just one for me as well, after workish time.
posted by scodger at 12:33 AM on April 14, 2010


arzakh-?
miss otis egrets-?
nixit-?
tracicle-1
shelleycat-2
oceanmorning-?
canard de vasco-?
hal_c_on-1
scodger-1


So as of now, we have 5 people coming, and 5 mefites left to chime in with a confirmation and if they are bringing someone...

Lets finish this up in 25 hours from now, and that'll make the booking easy.

Also...how do we refer to each other? usernames, or real names? I don't know if one is a faux pas or what...
posted by hal_c_on at 8:35 PM on April 14, 2010


arzakh-?
miss otis egrets-?
nixit-?
tracicle-1
shelleycat-2
oceanmorning-1
canard de vasco-?
hal_c_on-1
scodger-1
posted by oceanmorning at 1:17 AM on April 15, 2010


I'll be there, say 6:30. Put me down for 1.
posted by Miss Otis' Egrets at 1:25 AM on April 15, 2010


There will be 1 of me present, not before 6:45.
posted by Canard de Vasco at 2:34 AM on April 15, 2010


arzakh-?
miss otis egrets-1
nixit-?
tracicle-1
shelleycat-2
oceanmorning-1
canard de vasco-1
hal_c_on-1
scodger-1


So this tells me that we have a confirmed 8, probably 10 will show, but it could go all the way up to 12. I'll set a booking down for 13, just in case anybody wants to bring another body (live human body, please).

Also...it should also be known that if some non-participating mefite sees this and wants to partake...you are more than welcome to show up.

Can't wait to see you all.
posted by hal_c_on at 12:17 AM on April 16, 2010


Ok guys...I got a callback from the Mexican cafe 5 minutes ago. They CANNOT accomodate us on friday. They suggested the next time I need to schedule anything over 8 people (their minimum for booking), I do the reservation 2 or more weeks in advance.

damn.

So does anybody have any other suggestions about where to go thats easy for commuters, easy for out-of-towners, and drivers...in addition it has a variety of food and drinks...

or just anyplace that will serve the likes of us?
posted by hal_c_on at 10:38 PM on April 16, 2010


Oh...and just so you know I did ask:

1. Is there anyway that 8-12 people can show up and expect to be seated that night within a reasonable amount of time?
"No."

2. Can you put us on the waitlist just in case somebody cancels?
"Sure, but nobody has cancelled a group booking here for months".

Ouch.
posted by hal_c_on at 11:01 PM on April 16, 2010


I was at The Neighbourhood (the Macs bar) in Kingsland last night and man, awesome. My friends arrived at about 4.30 I think so scored a good table but it actually wasn't that busy in the back all evening (we had the best view too). But Kingsland is probably a bit far out for everyone else and I don't think they do bookings as such, and the closer-to-town version, Nuffield St bar in Newmarket, is much smaller, less fun and is busier on a Friday.

But otherwise I'm not really all that fussy at all. Anywhere is going to be busy and noisy on a Friday I'd say and I haven't ever made an actual booking in town (am not that organised!). So am not helpful but am happy without whatever happens.
posted by shelleycat at 12:02 AM on April 17, 2010


Actually Macs has the Northern Steamship Bar right down by the waterfront and apparently they take bookings. I've never been there and don't know how big it is, but I assume the food and beer is the same (and excellent) as the others. Might be worth at least giving them a ring? Better to have a booking we cancel than trying to get everyone to decide and ending up hanging in Albert Park.
posted by shelleycat at 12:13 AM on April 17, 2010


Sorry about the non-response, as I was doubtful about making the Mexican Cafe. Anything on the waterfront/Viaduct would suit me - better parking, more choices etc. However driving on the Southern Motorway in rush hour kinda freaks me out, as I haven't done that for 10 years, and it's got much much worse.
posted by arzakh at 7:03 AM on April 17, 2010


Actually Macs has the Northern Steamship Bar right down by the waterfront and apparently they take bookings.

Excellent idea. I'll actually be eating there for lunch/brunch today...will scope it out, and will get a booking in person if it will take us. I'll write back in about 8 hours with my findings.
posted by hal_c_on at 2:22 PM on April 17, 2010


I hate motorway driving too arzakh and try to plan my whole life around never having to do it. You can get around a lot of Auckland without the motorway (Great South Road for example), although it's much slower and more annoying and there's still traffic. The slower part can be better though, more time to work out what's going in when you're crawling at 20 kph, heh. Also, depending on where you're coming from, you could look at driving to a train or bus station at Ellersie or somewhere similar (I'm not sure where's the best place to park) and use public transport for the rest, we have a couple of people coming in by train already. I hope you can make it, then we can all bitch about the traffic.
posted by shelleycat at 3:35 PM on April 17, 2010


OK. Went to Mac's Northern Steamship. Place is great. We now have reservations for 12 @ 18:00, April 23, 2010.

Great save, shelleycat. Food is fairly reasonably priced, beer is good, setting is laid back and neat. Awesome venue for awesome folks.

I'll see you all on Friday night!
posted by hal_c_on at 6:44 PM on April 17, 2010


And yes...I did MeFimail everyone on the list with an "Update".
posted by hal_c_on at 6:48 PM on April 17, 2010


What's the booking under? As in, who should we ask for? I should get there sixish, possibly a little after but not earlier.
posted by shelleycat at 6:51 PM on April 17, 2010


Awesome, got the memail thanks. What time are others expecting to be at Ellerslie station? We can swap cell #s, maybe.
posted by tracicle at 8:09 PM on April 17, 2010


Looks like train leaves Ellerslie station for Britomart at quarter to the hour, so I'm not sure whether I'll be there just after 6 or just after 7. Miss Otis' Regrets, what are your plans?
posted by tracicle at 8:13 PM on April 17, 2010


tracicle, I think you were looking at the Saturday timetable. The Friday train leaves Ellerslie at 5:35 or 6:00. I'll be catching the 6pm, getting to Britomart 6:18, Northern Steamship 6:19 for anyone wishing to join me in a light spot of public transport.
posted by Miss Otis' Egrets at 1:15 AM on April 18, 2010


Heh, yeah I was. I realised after I'd hit Post but felt like enough of an egg already. :/
posted by tracicle at 5:48 PM on April 18, 2010


Sigh. Have fun, people.
posted by Sonny Jim at 4:02 PM on April 19, 2010


It occurs to me that this is tomorrow. Where did the week go?

Do we just wander round the pub saying 'metafilter' semi-loudly until someone perks up their ears or do we have a plan?
posted by shelleycat at 11:45 PM on April 21, 2010


Yes...do that. That should start off the hazing for each of us since we are internetters meeting in real life.
posted by hal_c_on at 3:53 PM on April 22, 2010


Um, I'm pretty outgoing but not that outgoing. So some idea of which table to ask for would be better.
posted by shelleycat at 4:37 PM on April 22, 2010


Then you can all hear my exciting tales about macrophages, thesis writing, and publishing priority fights.

So thinking back I actually managed to talk about all three things last night, not intentionally but clearly that's what's on my mind. Boyd and I both had an excellent time and definitely like the idea of a repeat performance.
posted by shelleycat at 6:02 PM on April 23, 2010


I only heard two out of the three possible storytelling themes, but I enjoyed talking about cats very much. What a cool bunch of people are the Auckland Mefites!

I would love to come again, although perhaps somewhere quieter next time? And also could we keep the damn kids off my lawn? Thx.
posted by tracicle at 8:08 PM on April 24, 2010


Yeah, that was fun. We must do it again sometime.
I agree though, it was pretty bloody loud. Fortunately I'm good at lip reading.
posted by Miss Otis' Egrets at 5:06 PM on April 25, 2010


Yeah, I really don't understand the New Zealand attitude where the less people in the pub, the more they turn up the music. it's nothing to do with being old either, it's bugged me since I was a teenager. I think the only way to avoid that is go somewhere focussed more on the food side of things (so a cafe rather than a pub) or possibly go during the day.
posted by shelleycat at 7:21 PM on April 25, 2010


Oooh, that would be nice.
posted by tracicle at 9:13 PM on April 25, 2010


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