Flagged as *yawn* July 14, 2010 12:32 PM Subscribe
Add another option to the flagging menu?
I don't flag posts on the blue very often, but when I do it's generally only if I think they're just not very interesting. Maybe the "other" option is sufficient for this on the mods' end of things (and if it is, please feel free to close this post), but there have been several times when I've wanted more.
Would it be useful to think about having a "meh" or "not best of the web" choice on the drop down menu?
I don't flag posts on the blue very often, but when I do it's generally only if I think they're just not very interesting. Maybe the "other" option is sufficient for this on the mods' end of things (and if it is, please feel free to close this post), but there have been several times when I've wanted more.
Would it be useful to think about having a "meh" or "not best of the web" choice on the drop down menu?
No. Other is fine. We basically should have three flags: look at this QUICK, look at this eventually and fix this. Having the other options is just to sort of encourage people to think about the guidelines and to encourage pointing out stuff that breaks them. There is no guideline against being uninteresting.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 12:35 PM on July 14, 2010 [6 favorites]
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 12:35 PM on July 14, 2010 [6 favorites]
Your "meh" is always someone else's "wow!", and there is NO requirement that anything posted here be "best of the web", despite what a lot of people may think.
posted by yhbc at 12:35 PM on July 14, 2010 [7 favorites]
posted by yhbc at 12:35 PM on July 14, 2010 [7 favorites]
Just mark them as HTML errors and then the mods will definitely read it.
posted by smackfu at 12:36 PM on July 14, 2010 [8 favorites]
posted by smackfu at 12:36 PM on July 14, 2010 [8 favorites]
I flagged this as Other. What I intend Other to mean in this case is a secret though.
posted by Babblesort at 12:38 PM on July 14, 2010
posted by Babblesort at 12:38 PM on July 14, 2010
There is no guideline against being uninteresting.
Thank god.
posted by adamdschneider at 12:39 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
Thank god.
posted by adamdschneider at 12:39 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
jessamyn: "We basically should have three flags: look at this QUICK, look at this eventually and fix this"
Good/ Bad/ Broken, three flags for all situations!
posted by boo_radley at 12:40 PM on July 14, 2010 [3 favorites]
Good/ Bad/ Broken, three flags for all situations!
posted by boo_radley at 12:40 PM on July 14, 2010 [3 favorites]
I actually wish there was a flag that was "this is not a good post" because then people could use the flag instead of making that comment on the post.
posted by andoatnp at 12:41 PM on July 14, 2010 [8 favorites]
posted by andoatnp at 12:41 PM on July 14, 2010 [8 favorites]
Would it be useful to think about having a "meh" or "not best of the web" choice on the drop down menu?
Isn't that "breaks the guidelines"? Without checking, I'm pretty sure the guidelines say to post interesting content.
posted by Jaltcoh at 12:41 PM on July 14, 2010
Isn't that "breaks the guidelines"? Without checking, I'm pretty sure the guidelines say to post interesting content.
posted by Jaltcoh at 12:41 PM on July 14, 2010
You know, the mods do read the site a lot. In the very rare cases that someone really does post something flat-out awful, they tend to see it and kill it. I'm not sure we need a whole flag for this. Hell, we don't even have a flag for "blatant grammatical/spelling error in the main post," and requests to fix that are a lot more common than "I believe that this post has The Suck."
posted by Tomorrowful at 12:45 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by Tomorrowful at 12:45 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
I do think the "Didn't Read The Question" flag would be a great (as proposed by trunk muffins).
posted by cjorgensen at 12:54 PM on July 14, 2010 [26 favorites]
posted by cjorgensen at 12:54 PM on July 14, 2010 [26 favorites]
I've got a question about MetaTalk double posts. FPPs regarding the use of a single dot in obit threads come up a fair bit. Do people not use the 'double post' flag in Meta? Because I can't understand why this wasn't closed, especially since two mods had entered the thread to comment almost immediately.
posted by gman at 12:58 PM on July 14, 2010
posted by gman at 12:58 PM on July 14, 2010
Yeah, we don't really want a "yawn" or "meh" or similar such "i'm just not into this" flag because it makes it too easy for folks to flag something on poorly-considered grounds. That you're not excited by a post is a reason to not spend any time on the post, and that's about it. If you think there's something genuinely problematic—that, say, it's a post that's actively bad and shouldn't be on the front page—then go ahead and flag it as "breaks the guidelines" or "other".
We've had folks occasionally ask about adding a "troll" flag in the past, and said no for similar reasons: it's too easy to translate personal abstract dislike into a flag if you don't have to stop and consider a little bit about what the nature of your objection is. It'd be far too easy for to translate "I dislike this person and/or what they're saying, end of story" into "flagged as trolling", which doesn't actually give us any useful information. Better that folks who want to flag something try and think about what they're flagging and why; if it comes down to an issue of not being sure how to characterize a flag but really feeling that flagging is necessary, using "other" is fine, but at least there should be that moment of contemplation.
posted by cortex (staff) at 1:01 PM on July 14, 2010 [2 favorites]
We've had folks occasionally ask about adding a "troll" flag in the past, and said no for similar reasons: it's too easy to translate personal abstract dislike into a flag if you don't have to stop and consider a little bit about what the nature of your objection is. It'd be far too easy for to translate "I dislike this person and/or what they're saying, end of story" into "flagged as trolling", which doesn't actually give us any useful information. Better that folks who want to flag something try and think about what they're flagging and why; if it comes down to an issue of not being sure how to characterize a flag but really feeling that flagging is necessary, using "other" is fine, but at least there should be that moment of contemplation.
posted by cortex (staff) at 1:01 PM on July 14, 2010 [2 favorites]
gman: because people need a place to make up silly names for themselves, dick around, and exchange recipes. I mean, that's what metatalk is for, right?
posted by phunniemee at 1:02 PM on July 14, 2010
posted by phunniemee at 1:02 PM on July 14, 2010
I'd like a sausage, extra cheese and onions option.
posted by new brand day at 1:02 PM on July 14, 2010
posted by new brand day at 1:02 PM on July 14, 2010
I've got a question about MetaTalk double posts. FPPs regarding the use of a single dot in obit threads come up a fair bit. Do people not use the 'double post' flag in Meta? Because I can't understand why this wasn't closed, especially since two mods had entered the thread to comment almost immediately.
We don't worry much about double posts when it's a matter of like social conventions or community etiquette being discussed—there are always new people joining the site or people newly discovering metatalk or newly perceiving a given issue with how the community works, and so these questions are bound to recur and that's basically just fine.
If it's a really functionally asked-and-answered situation where there's no room for discussion, we might close down a repeat metatalk post, but it's really going to depend on the situation and isn't super common.
posted by cortex (staff) at 1:03 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
We don't worry much about double posts when it's a matter of like social conventions or community etiquette being discussed—there are always new people joining the site or people newly discovering metatalk or newly perceiving a given issue with how the community works, and so these questions are bound to recur and that's basically just fine.
If it's a really functionally asked-and-answered situation where there's no room for discussion, we might close down a repeat metatalk post, but it's really going to depend on the situation and isn't super common.
posted by cortex (staff) at 1:03 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
things i don't think should be FPP - "other"
didn't read the question/not answering the question/generally being an ass - "derail/noise"
it's not like the mods look at the flag reason, look at the post, and say "well, they used the wrong flag, and even though i think this isn't a good post for metafilter i'm going to disregard the flag because the reason is wrong".
also: i find FIAMO strangely calming. a lot of the times i'm moved to flag something, it actually disappears and the times it doesn't i find i'm better at being all like "eh, guess they didn't agree".
i'd love it if we stopped seeing flag and shit in the thread, or FASITT. if, in the actual thread and not on metatalk, you ever mention you've flagged something, you're doing it wrong.
posted by nadawi at 1:04 PM on July 14, 2010 [2 favorites]
didn't read the question/not answering the question/generally being an ass - "derail/noise"
it's not like the mods look at the flag reason, look at the post, and say "well, they used the wrong flag, and even though i think this isn't a good post for metafilter i'm going to disregard the flag because the reason is wrong".
also: i find FIAMO strangely calming. a lot of the times i'm moved to flag something, it actually disappears and the times it doesn't i find i'm better at being all like "eh, guess they didn't agree".
i'd love it if we stopped seeing flag and shit in the thread, or FASITT. if, in the actual thread and not on metatalk, you ever mention you've flagged something, you're doing it wrong.
posted by nadawi at 1:04 PM on July 14, 2010 [2 favorites]
Here are the flags I would like to see. If I ran this site as a total dictatorship.
- derail/noise
- wtf
- I will flag this instead of being a dick in the thread, but really, this sucks amirite
- "not best of the web" is not a reason we delete posts ever - do not use this flag. take a walk.
- typo making me itchy and can't rest unless you fix it
- someone doing that THING we just talked about not being okay in MeTa like six hours ago
- jessamyn, do not miss this funny joke, it is terrific
- jessamyn, I made this comment for you
- this offends my personal sensibilities
- this offends everyone's sensibilities not just mine. yes, everyone.
- I don't mind this but other people might and I thought you'd like to know about it
- I made this comment with remarkable restraint and I would like you to notice that.
- same old person doing the same old tired shit.
- this comment mentions libraries and I didn't want you to miss it.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 1:04 PM on July 14, 2010 [189 favorites]
- derail/noise
- wtf
- I will flag this instead of being a dick in the thread, but really, this sucks amirite
- "not best of the web" is not a reason we delete posts ever - do not use this flag. take a walk.
- typo making me itchy and can't rest unless you fix it
- someone doing that THING we just talked about not being okay in MeTa like six hours ago
- jessamyn, do not miss this funny joke, it is terrific
- jessamyn, I made this comment for you
- this offends my personal sensibilities
- this offends everyone's sensibilities not just mine. yes, everyone.
- I don't mind this but other people might and I thought you'd like to know about it
- I made this comment with remarkable restraint and I would like you to notice that.
- same old person doing the same old tired shit.
- this comment mentions libraries and I didn't want you to miss it.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 1:04 PM on July 14, 2010 [189 favorites]
I am posting to endorse the idea of naming flags in a way that allows people to flag instead of making unnecessary negative comments in the thread.
posted by serazin at 1:06 PM on July 14, 2010
posted by serazin at 1:06 PM on July 14, 2010
I do sometimes wish we could flag posts that are in some way related to post flags, when I'm feeling a bit daffy, which is always.
posted by Astro Zombie at 1:07 PM on July 14, 2010
posted by Astro Zombie at 1:07 PM on July 14, 2010
Here are the flags I would like to see. If I ran this site as a total dictatorship.
Given this some thought, have you?
posted by new brand day at 1:09 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
Given this some thought, have you?
posted by new brand day at 1:09 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
I do think the "Didn't Read The Question" flag would be a great (as proposed by trunk muffins).
"Noise" is one of the options.
posted by nangar at 1:11 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
"Noise" is one of the options.
posted by nangar at 1:11 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
Given this some thought, have you?
I would go so far as to say that everyone on the mod team has thought about how the site would be different if they could actually run it exactly the way they wanted, yeah.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 1:12 PM on July 14, 2010 [3 favorites]
I would go so far as to say that everyone on the mod team has thought about how the site would be different if they could actually run it exactly the way they wanted, yeah.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 1:12 PM on July 14, 2010 [3 favorites]
Isn't that "breaks the guidelines"? Without checking, I'm pretty sure the guidelines say to post interesting content.
From the FAQ:
Further, how do you measure interest properly? Some of my own posts have more favorites than comments. Should they not have been posted?
posted by zarq at 1:15 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
From the FAQ:
According to the guidelines page "A good post to MetaFilter is something that meets the following criteria: most people haven't seen it before, there is something interesting about the content on the page, and it might warrant discussion from others." Posts shouldn't be terribly long, and they don't have to contain multiple links or end with a discussion-sparking question. The Best Post of the Day contest from August 2006 contains many examples of a wide variety of good MetaFilter posts.The reason why the mods don't delete posts that are uninteresting unless they are flagged to death is probably because "Interesting" is a subjective term. What I define interesting may be mindnumbingly stupid to you, and vice versa.
Further, how do you measure interest properly? Some of my own posts have more favorites than comments. Should they not have been posted?
posted by zarq at 1:15 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
- typo making me itchy and can't rest unless you fix it
- I don't mind this but other people might and I thought you'd like to know about it
- I made this comment with remarkable restraint and I would like you to notice that.
OMG it's not just me making those "other" flags then?
posted by norm at 1:17 PM on July 14, 2010
- I don't mind this but other people might and I thought you'd like to know about it
- I made this comment with remarkable restraint and I would like you to notice that.
OMG it's not just me making those "other" flags then?
posted by norm at 1:17 PM on July 14, 2010
I would go so far as to say that everyone on the mod team has thought about how the site would be different if they could actually run it exactly the way they wanted, yeah.
You know that scene in The Shining when the elevator doors open and out comes a deluge of blood?
posted by cortex (staff) at 1:17 PM on July 14, 2010 [14 favorites]
You know that scene in The Shining when the elevator doors open and out comes a deluge of blood?
posted by cortex (staff) at 1:17 PM on July 14, 2010 [14 favorites]
You'd install elevators on MetaFilter? I don't even know how that would work.
posted by Think_Long at 1:19 PM on July 14, 2010 [3 favorites]
posted by Think_Long at 1:19 PM on July 14, 2010 [3 favorites]
andoatnp: I actually wish there was a flag that was "this is not a good post" because then people could use the flag instead of making that comment on the post.
It's cute that you think that would stop them.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 1:22 PM on July 14, 2010 [3 favorites]
It's cute that you think that would stop them.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 1:22 PM on July 14, 2010 [3 favorites]
Last mod standing wins.
posted by new brand day at 1:24 PM on July 14, 2010
posted by new brand day at 1:24 PM on July 14, 2010
I would go so far as to say that everyone on the mod team has thought about how the site would be different if they could actually run it exactly the way they wanted
Not just mods! This place would be a never-ending pizza party/orgy with beer raining from the sky if I were in charge.
posted by adamdschneider at 1:24 PM on July 14, 2010
Not just mods! This place would be a never-ending pizza party/orgy with beer raining from the sky if I were in charge.
posted by adamdschneider at 1:24 PM on July 14, 2010
A Metafilter Elevator?
*bing bing*
"Third Floor: The Gray. Metatalk. Home of the Moderators. Gripes and Grievances, Rants and Raves, Compliments, Feature Requests, Bug Reports, Call Outs, Snacks, Meetups, Alphabet Threads, Gratuitous Spousal Nudity, Shenanigans, Phobias, Flameouts, Press Mentions and Hugs."
posted by zarq at 1:25 PM on July 14, 2010 [5 favorites]
*bing bing*
"Third Floor: The Gray. Metatalk. Home of the Moderators. Gripes and Grievances, Rants and Raves, Compliments, Feature Requests, Bug Reports, Call Outs, Snacks, Meetups, Alphabet Threads, Gratuitous Spousal Nudity, Shenanigans, Phobias, Flameouts, Press Mentions and Hugs."
posted by zarq at 1:25 PM on July 14, 2010 [5 favorites]
jessamyn: - this offends everyone's sensibilities not just mine. yes, everyone.
If we're going to have this one, let me also suggest:
- this offends everyone, even me, but it also made me laugh so perhaps cut it some slack
posted by MCMikeNamara at 1:25 PM on July 14, 2010
If we're going to have this one, let me also suggest:
- this offends everyone, even me, but it also made me laugh so perhaps cut it some slack
posted by MCMikeNamara at 1:25 PM on July 14, 2010
This place would be a never-ending pizza party/orgy with beer raining from the sky if I were in charge.
I invite you to replace my boss.
posted by nickmark at 1:26 PM on July 14, 2010
I invite you to replace my boss.
posted by nickmark at 1:26 PM on July 14, 2010
I'm going to flag this post as passive-aggressive bullshit.
posted by GuyZero at 1:28 PM on July 14, 2010
posted by GuyZero at 1:28 PM on July 14, 2010
*bing bing*
"Third Floor: The Gray. Metatalk. Home of the Moderators. Gripes and Grievances, Rants and Raves, Compliments, Feature Requests, Bug Reports, Call Outs, Snacks, Meetups, Alphabet Threads, Gratuitous Spousal Nudity, Shenanigans, Phobias, Flameouts, Press Mentions and Hugs."
Me: Yes, I'm looking to get into Ladies' Undergarments.
Cortex, doing a bad flaming gay character: Ooooh, I bet you are!
CAST TURNS AND ALL STARES INTO CAMERA, SMIRKING
posted by GuyZero at 1:30 PM on July 14, 2010 [11 favorites]
"Third Floor: The Gray. Metatalk. Home of the Moderators. Gripes and Grievances, Rants and Raves, Compliments, Feature Requests, Bug Reports, Call Outs, Snacks, Meetups, Alphabet Threads, Gratuitous Spousal Nudity, Shenanigans, Phobias, Flameouts, Press Mentions and Hugs."
Me: Yes, I'm looking to get into Ladies' Undergarments.
Cortex, doing a bad flaming gay character: Ooooh, I bet you are!
CAST TURNS AND ALL STARES INTO CAMERA, SMIRKING
posted by GuyZero at 1:30 PM on July 14, 2010 [11 favorites]
But what about when I make a comment mentioning libraries AND do so with remarkable restraint?
posted by 2bucksplus at 1:32 PM on July 14, 2010
posted by 2bucksplus at 1:32 PM on July 14, 2010
I was seriously considering doing a noisy rock cover of the theme from Are You Being Served a couple months ago.
posted by cortex (staff) at 1:38 PM on July 14, 2010 [4 favorites]
posted by cortex (staff) at 1:38 PM on July 14, 2010 [4 favorites]
- Pay attention to me. Please.
posted by new brand day at 1:40 PM on July 14, 2010
posted by new brand day at 1:40 PM on July 14, 2010
Metafilter: that THING we just talked about not being okay
posted by Jaltcoh at 1:41 PM on July 14, 2010 [2 favorites]
posted by Jaltcoh at 1:41 PM on July 14, 2010 [2 favorites]
I was seriously considering doing a noisy rock cover of the theme from Are You Being Served a couple months ago.
The original already has kind of a techno-noise thing going on. Maybe if you screamed the voice-over and threw in a little angle-grinder-on-an-anvil instead of cash registers.
posted by GuyZero at 1:47 PM on July 14, 2010
The original already has kind of a techno-noise thing going on. Maybe if you screamed the voice-over and threw in a little angle-grinder-on-an-anvil instead of cash registers.
posted by GuyZero at 1:47 PM on July 14, 2010
- this offends everyone's sensibilities not just mine. yes, everyone.
I'd like a flag that somehow simulates what happens during a lively if average conversation when someone just drops a huge "but everyone knows Space Masons control the lizard people!" and there that pico-second of silent awkwardness as everyone tries to figure out if they're kidding or not.
posted by The Whelk at 1:47 PM on July 14, 2010 [2 favorites]
I'd like a flag that somehow simulates what happens during a lively if average conversation when someone just drops a huge "but everyone knows Space Masons control the lizard people!" and there that pico-second of silent awkwardness as everyone tries to figure out if they're kidding or not.
posted by The Whelk at 1:47 PM on July 14, 2010 [2 favorites]
You get Are You Being Served in the US?
On behalf of the UK, I apologise, I don't think that was supposed to happen.
posted by jontyjago at 1:52 PM on July 14, 2010 [5 favorites]
On behalf of the UK, I apologise, I don't think that was supposed to happen.
posted by jontyjago at 1:52 PM on July 14, 2010 [5 favorites]
I still don't trust you limeys after Keeping Up Appearances.
posted by The Whelk at 1:52 PM on July 14, 2010
posted by The Whelk at 1:52 PM on July 14, 2010
You get Are You Being Served in the US?
The US' PBS system of publicly-funded TV stations is 32% Are You Being Served by volume.
posted by GuyZero at 1:54 PM on July 14, 2010 [9 favorites]
The US' PBS system of publicly-funded TV stations is 32% Are You Being Served by volume.
posted by GuyZero at 1:54 PM on July 14, 2010 [9 favorites]
It's cute that you think that would stop them.
I once passed through a chaotic (to me, possibly not to your average Karnatakan) multi-way intersection in Bangalore in which the authorities, presumably dismayed at the consistent disregard of the traffic lights by all concerned, had placed a sign saying "REMEMBER: RED MEANS STOP." Of course, everyone ignored the sign too.
Anyway, the moral of the story is: Widely flouted rules encourage touching displays of optimism on the part of rule-makers. I guess that's not a very catchy moral.
posted by AkzidenzGrotesk at 1:56 PM on July 14, 2010 [2 favorites]
I once passed through a chaotic (to me, possibly not to your average Karnatakan) multi-way intersection in Bangalore in which the authorities, presumably dismayed at the consistent disregard of the traffic lights by all concerned, had placed a sign saying "REMEMBER: RED MEANS STOP." Of course, everyone ignored the sign too.
Anyway, the moral of the story is: Widely flouted rules encourage touching displays of optimism on the part of rule-makers. I guess that's not a very catchy moral.
posted by AkzidenzGrotesk at 1:56 PM on July 14, 2010 [2 favorites]
Good/ Bad/ Broken, three flags for all situations!
Was gonna post this exact same thing.
posted by EndsOfInvention at 1:57 PM on July 14, 2010
Was gonna post this exact same thing.
posted by EndsOfInvention at 1:57 PM on July 14, 2010
- same old person doing the same old tired shit.
This, I would love to see. Also:
- FTFY abuse
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 1:58 PM on July 14, 2010
This, I would love to see. Also:
- FTFY abuse
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 1:58 PM on July 14, 2010
I'm flagging briank for getting that hobgoblin stuck in my brain.
posted by The Whelk at 2:09 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by The Whelk at 2:09 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
I was seriously considering doing a noisy rock cover of the theme from Are You Being Served a couple months ago...
Matt Berry got there first.
posted by Electric Dragon at 2:12 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
Matt Berry got there first.
posted by Electric Dragon at 2:12 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
GuyZero: You get Are You Being Served in the US?
The US' PBS system of publicly-funded TV stations is 32% Are You Being Served by volume.
But it's also responsible for 98% of "pussy" related double innuendo on PBS, so I think it's a fairly good trade.
(R.I.P. Mollie Sugden)
posted by MCMikeNamara at 2:23 PM on July 14, 2010
The US' PBS system of publicly-funded TV stations is 32% Are You Being Served by volume.
But it's also responsible for 98% of "pussy" related double innuendo on PBS, so I think it's a fairly good trade.
(R.I.P. Mollie Sugden)
posted by MCMikeNamara at 2:23 PM on July 14, 2010
Metafilter: That scene in The Shining when the elevator doors open and out comes a deluge of blood.
posted by two lights above the sea at 2:29 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by two lights above the sea at 2:29 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
Electric Dragon: I was seriously considering doing a noisy rock cover of the theme from Are You Being Served a couple months ago...
Matt Berry got there first.
posted by Electric Dragon at 4:12 PM on July 14 [+] [!]
Having not listened to the first yet, I would like to note that I personally believe there cannot be enough of these.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 2:29 PM on July 14, 2010
Matt Berry got there first.
posted by Electric Dragon at 4:12 PM on July 14 [+] [!]
Having not listened to the first yet, I would like to note that I personally believe there cannot be enough of these.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 2:29 PM on July 14, 2010
jessamyn: "- "not best of the web" is not a reason we delete posts ever - do not use this flag. take a walk."
This option would not actually flag the comment. It would sign you out.
posted by boo_radley at 2:31 PM on July 14, 2010 [9 favorites]
This option would not actually flag the comment. It would sign you out.
posted by boo_radley at 2:31 PM on July 14, 2010 [9 favorites]
I'm pretty sure that every post I ever flagged stays up, just out of spite.
posted by crunchland at 2:33 PM on July 14, 2010
posted by crunchland at 2:33 PM on July 14, 2010
I just realized you could favorite your own comments.
MIND BLOWN.
posted by two lights above the sea at 2:35 PM on July 14, 2010
MIND BLOWN.
posted by two lights above the sea at 2:35 PM on July 14, 2010
zarq, spousal nudity is never gratuitous!
posted by rtha at 2:37 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by rtha at 2:37 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
jessamyn: "- this offends everyone's sensibilities not just mine. yes, everyone."
AKA "the human centipede clause".
Man, I've needed some riffing. We had another dude sacked today and I'm kinda down. :|
posted by boo_radley at 2:39 PM on July 14, 2010
AKA "the human centipede clause".
Man, I've needed some riffing. We had another dude sacked today and I'm kinda down. :|
posted by boo_radley at 2:39 PM on July 14, 2010
Metafilter: responsible for 98% of "pussy" related double innuendo
Although I'm not sure what double innuendo is.
posted by jeoc at 2:49 PM on July 14, 2010
Although I'm not sure what double innuendo is.
posted by jeoc at 2:49 PM on July 14, 2010
jeoc: Although I'm not sure what double innuendo is.
Yeah, come to think of it, beyond something I would say after a very long day, me either.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 2:54 PM on July 14, 2010
Yeah, come to think of it, beyond something I would say after a very long day, me either.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 2:54 PM on July 14, 2010
I'd like a white flag for Metatalk. I surrender! I surrender!
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 2:57 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 2:57 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
I just realized you could favorite your own comments.
Yeah, but then you look really dumb when fishbike does a data dump and you are your biggest fan.
posted by cjorgensen at 3:03 PM on July 14, 2010 [3 favorites]
Yeah, but then you look really dumb when fishbike does a data dump and you are your biggest fan.
posted by cjorgensen at 3:03 PM on July 14, 2010 [3 favorites]
I was seriously considering doing a noisy rock cover of the theme from Are You Being Served a couple months ago.
Aw, I was hoping that was still in the realm of possibility. I'm pretty sure it would sound bad-ass.
posted by ODiV at 3:16 PM on July 14, 2010
Aw, I was hoping that was still in the realm of possibility. I'm pretty sure it would sound bad-ass.
posted by ODiV at 3:16 PM on July 14, 2010
Matt Berry got there first
Holy crap, Dr. Sanchez has a band and they appear to be awesome.
posted by mintcake! at 3:18 PM on July 14, 2010
Holy crap, Dr. Sanchez has a band and they appear to be awesome.
posted by mintcake! at 3:18 PM on July 14, 2010
Metafilter should adopt the international maritime signal flag system:
A (Alfa)
"I have a diver down; keep well clear at slow speed."
B (Bravo)
"I am taking in, or discharging, or carrying dangerous goods."
D (Delta)
"Keep clear of me; I am manoeuvering with difficulty."
F (Foxtrot)
"I am disabled; communicate with me."
J (Juliet)
"I am on fire and have dangerous cargo on board: keep well clear of me," or "I am leaking dangerous cargo."
K (Kilo)
With one numeral, "I wish to communicate with you by..."; 1) Morse signalling by hand-flags or arms; 2) Loud hailer (megaphone); 3) Morse signalling lamp; 4) Sound signals.
L (Lima)
In harbour: "The ship is under Quarantine."
At sea: "You should stop your vessel instantly."
O (Oscar)
"Man overboard."
P (Papa)
The Blue Peter.
In harbour: All persons should report on board as the vessel is about to proceed to sea.
At sea: "My nets have come fast upon an obstruction."
T (Tango)
"Keep clear of me; I am engaged in pair trawling."
U (Uniform)
"You are running into danger."
V (Victor)
"I require assistance."
W (Whiskey)
"I require medical assistance."
X (Xray)
"Stop carrying out your intentions and watch for my signals."
Y (Yankee)
"I am dragging my anchor."
Z (Zulu)
"I require a tug."
posted by killdevil at 3:19 PM on July 14, 2010 [6 favorites]
A (Alfa)
"I have a diver down; keep well clear at slow speed."
B (Bravo)
"I am taking in, or discharging, or carrying dangerous goods."
D (Delta)
"Keep clear of me; I am manoeuvering with difficulty."
F (Foxtrot)
"I am disabled; communicate with me."
J (Juliet)
"I am on fire and have dangerous cargo on board: keep well clear of me," or "I am leaking dangerous cargo."
K (Kilo)
With one numeral, "I wish to communicate with you by..."; 1) Morse signalling by hand-flags or arms; 2) Loud hailer (megaphone); 3) Morse signalling lamp; 4) Sound signals.
L (Lima)
In harbour: "The ship is under Quarantine."
At sea: "You should stop your vessel instantly."
O (Oscar)
"Man overboard."
P (Papa)
The Blue Peter.
In harbour: All persons should report on board as the vessel is about to proceed to sea.
At sea: "My nets have come fast upon an obstruction."
T (Tango)
"Keep clear of me; I am engaged in pair trawling."
U (Uniform)
"You are running into danger."
V (Victor)
"I require assistance."
W (Whiskey)
"I require medical assistance."
X (Xray)
"Stop carrying out your intentions and watch for my signals."
Y (Yankee)
"I am dragging my anchor."
Z (Zulu)
"I require a tug."
posted by killdevil at 3:19 PM on July 14, 2010 [6 favorites]
Yeah, but then you look really dumb when fishbike does a data dump and you are your biggest fan.
mathlete outted a bunch of us here for an even worse offense.
posted by gman at 3:19 PM on July 14, 2010
mathlete outted a bunch of us here for an even worse offense.
posted by gman at 3:19 PM on July 14, 2010
Metafilter: I require a t....
No, I'm not going to do that.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 3:26 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
No, I'm not going to do that.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 3:26 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
Vexillology thread!
Sorry. I just really like the word 'vexillology'.
posted by Electric Dragon at 3:28 PM on July 14, 2010
Sorry. I just really like the word 'vexillology'.
posted by Electric Dragon at 3:28 PM on July 14, 2010
Z (Zulu)
"I require a tug."
More like:
Z (Zulu)
"I require a hug."
posted by axiom at 3:32 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
"I require a tug."
More like:
Z (Zulu)
"I require a hug."
posted by axiom at 3:32 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
Metafilter: Stop carrying out your intentions and watch for my signals.
posted by pompomtom at 3:41 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by pompomtom at 3:41 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
C (Charlie)
"I have forgotten if it is spelled maneuver or manouvre. Please advise."
posted by oneirodynia at 3:54 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
Although I'm not sure what double innuendo is.
That's what's known as an insinuendo amongst the adepts.
posted by Devils Rancher at 4:01 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
That's what's known as an insinuendo amongst the adepts.
posted by Devils Rancher at 4:01 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
(often attached to the man overboard pole on boats).
With a sinister hoist...
We need one each of these.
posted by Devils Rancher at 4:04 PM on July 14, 2010
With a sinister hoist...
We need one each of these.
posted by Devils Rancher at 4:04 PM on July 14, 2010
Flag: -CRAZY IVAN
posted by Devils Rancher at 4:05 PM on July 14, 2010
posted by Devils Rancher at 4:05 PM on July 14, 2010
Devils Rancher: "That's what's known as an insinuendo amongst the adepts.
"
darling, all my uendos are in sin.
* laughs giddily, huffs ether *
posted by boo_radley at 4:11 PM on July 14, 2010
"
darling, all my uendos are in sin.
* laughs giddily, huffs ether *
posted by boo_radley at 4:11 PM on July 14, 2010
You see? This is why you don't mess with an adept. Insinuendo is itself an insinuendo.
posted by Devils Rancher at 4:22 PM on July 14, 2010
posted by Devils Rancher at 4:22 PM on July 14, 2010
flagged for mentioning the war! (please don't mention the war)
posted by Wuggie Norple at 4:32 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by Wuggie Norple at 4:32 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
There is no guideline against being uninteresting.
Um, this feels weird since it was Jessamyn posting this comment. But Jessamyn, isn't there explicitly and obviously a guideline against front page posts being uninteresting? It's the first first paragraph of the guidelines. Well, okay, the guideline is that the post should be interesting. But isn't a guideline saying posts should be interesting exactly the same, logically, as a guideline saying posts shouldn't be uninteresting?
posted by Justinian at 4:44 PM on July 14, 2010
Um, this feels weird since it was Jessamyn posting this comment. But Jessamyn, isn't there explicitly and obviously a guideline against front page posts being uninteresting? It's the first first paragraph of the guidelines. Well, okay, the guideline is that the post should be interesting. But isn't a guideline saying posts should be interesting exactly the same, logically, as a guideline saying posts shouldn't be uninteresting?
posted by Justinian at 4:44 PM on July 14, 2010
Forget flags. I'd just like the ability to exclude (the same) users that feel the need to post a dozen or more smart-ass comments in every fucking thread I read.
posted by belvidere at 4:47 PM on July 14, 2010
posted by belvidere at 4:47 PM on July 14, 2010
But isn't a guideline saying posts should be interesting exactly the same, logically, as a guideline saying posts shouldn't be uninteresting?
I too understand the contrapositive.
Posts should be, among other things, interesting. If a post fails to encourage discussion, everyone's seen it before and it's dreadfully dull [to everyone] then yeah it's a bad post. I think the more salient point is that one person thinking something isn't interesting does not make it de facto uninteresting to everyone else. It's pretty hard to find something that interests literally no one.
So while we don't have to do a user survey and have everyone vote it "uninteresting" to have it deleted, I think the point I was trying to make was more like "Just because you don't think it's that great doesn't mean other people might not. If a post is doing fine without you, leave it be."
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 4:50 PM on July 14, 2010
I too understand the contrapositive.
Posts should be, among other things, interesting. If a post fails to encourage discussion, everyone's seen it before and it's dreadfully dull [to everyone] then yeah it's a bad post. I think the more salient point is that one person thinking something isn't interesting does not make it de facto uninteresting to everyone else. It's pretty hard to find something that interests literally no one.
So while we don't have to do a user survey and have everyone vote it "uninteresting" to have it deleted, I think the point I was trying to make was more like "Just because you don't think it's that great doesn't mean other people might not. If a post is doing fine without you, leave it be."
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 4:50 PM on July 14, 2010
jessamyn: "I too understand the contrapositive. "
Also a good idea for a flag reason.
posted by boo_radley at 4:56 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
Also a good idea for a flag reason.
posted by boo_radley at 4:56 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
Once I stopped taking my contrapositives and discovered I'd become a contrabass. Then I was all UP UP DOWN DOWN LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT B A to get back to normal. Worst day ever in the north-east Bay Area.
posted by GuyZero at 5:03 PM on July 14, 2010 [4 favorites]
posted by GuyZero at 5:03 PM on July 14, 2010 [4 favorites]
I'd like to see "viral" or just plain "selling a product" in the flag options.
posted by DU at 5:04 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by DU at 5:04 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
This place would be a never-ending pizza party/orgy with beer raining from the sky if I were in charge.
I invite you to replace my boss.
I am happy you are not my co-worker. My co-workers are nice and all, but I don't want to think about them in their birthday suits, let alone shag them in a group get-along thing. And wouldn't the pizza get soggy with all that beer raining down? Or is the beer outside, and the pizza party/orgy inside? Still, why not just beers on tap? Because I think I'd get sick of everything smelling like beer.
But I'd be OK with a few beer taps next to the water fountains.
posted by filthy light thief at 5:06 PM on July 14, 2010
I invite you to replace my boss.
I am happy you are not my co-worker. My co-workers are nice and all, but I don't want to think about them in their birthday suits, let alone shag them in a group get-along thing. And wouldn't the pizza get soggy with all that beer raining down? Or is the beer outside, and the pizza party/orgy inside? Still, why not just beers on tap? Because I think I'd get sick of everything smelling like beer.
But I'd be OK with a few beer taps next to the water fountains.
posted by filthy light thief at 5:06 PM on July 14, 2010
I would go so far as to say that everyone on the mod team has thought about how the site would be different if they could actually run it exactly the way they wanted, yeah.
Ooh, I want to hear the other mod's dream-lists! Then we can vote on who should be the uber-mod, and then they'd get their list implemented for a week, and we'd all laugh when it was over, but some would bitch about how they liked the ubermod site modifications, and there'd be a minor skuffle over who really should have won the vote-off, and there'll be allegations of rigging the vote, and no one will trust Matt or pb because the wield too much power already, and it'll be a bloody riot. Good times, good times.
posted by filthy light thief at 5:09 PM on July 14, 2010
Ooh, I want to hear the other mod's dream-lists! Then we can vote on who should be the uber-mod, and then they'd get their list implemented for a week, and we'd all laugh when it was over, but some would bitch about how they liked the ubermod site modifications, and there'd be a minor skuffle over who really should have won the vote-off, and there'll be allegations of rigging the vote, and no one will trust Matt or pb because the wield too much power already, and it'll be a bloody riot. Good times, good times.
posted by filthy light thief at 5:09 PM on July 14, 2010
I'd like to see "viral" or just plain "selling a product" in the flag options.
Yeah, this is also where MeFi and DreaMeFi diverge from each other in my world too. That said, viral nonsense is part of internet culture and skipping a post because it's associated with a product isn't really feasible or what people want. It would sort of be neat if people could flag stuff in a greasemonkey-obtainable way and I could have a script that removed all the shopping and wedding questions from AskMe and all the iphone and viral threads from MeFi. That said, the Old Spice thing has been cracking me up today, and I know it's an advertisement. So maybe I'm a bad anti-capitalist, or maybe the dog is us, sort of.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 5:29 PM on July 14, 2010 [2 favorites]
Yeah, this is also where MeFi and DreaMeFi diverge from each other in my world too. That said, viral nonsense is part of internet culture and skipping a post because it's associated with a product isn't really feasible or what people want. It would sort of be neat if people could flag stuff in a greasemonkey-obtainable way and I could have a script that removed all the shopping and wedding questions from AskMe and all the iphone and viral threads from MeFi. That said, the Old Spice thing has been cracking me up today, and I know it's an advertisement. So maybe I'm a bad anti-capitalist, or maybe the dog is us, sort of.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 5:29 PM on July 14, 2010 [2 favorites]
I don't flag posts on the blue very often, but when I do it's generally only if I think they're just not very interesting.
But why would anyone give a flying fuck what you do or don't find interesting?
If you find an FPP uninteresting, then don't bother reading beyond the little précis on the front page.
posted by idiomatika at 5:30 PM on July 14, 2010
But why would anyone give a flying fuck what you do or don't find interesting?
If you find an FPP uninteresting, then don't bother reading beyond the little précis on the front page.
posted by idiomatika at 5:30 PM on July 14, 2010
To Jessamyn's swell list, I'd add:
- awesome/sidebar
- somebody needs a hug
posted by theora55 at 5:47 PM on July 14, 2010
- awesome/sidebar
- somebody needs a hug
posted by theora55 at 5:47 PM on July 14, 2010
Don't worry, DU. People ought to get tired of the Old Spice thing any minute now. (Oughtn't they?)
posted by crunchland at 5:49 PM on July 14, 2010
posted by crunchland at 5:49 PM on July 14, 2010
There really needs to be a flag for chatfilter in AskMe so people don't feel the need to shit in the post with "OMG THIS IS CHATFILTER, YOU FOOL." type comments.
posted by milarepa at 5:55 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by milarepa at 5:55 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
I'm genuinely torn as to whether to tweet Isaiah an invite to the 11th Anniversary meetup this weekend, on account of him being in town and purportedly looking for stuff to do. I'm tired of the commercials already but that's not really his fault, and it'd be kind of neat to humanize a meme like that, but wouldn't that be just about the strangest distraction a meetup could have?
posted by cortex (staff) at 6:05 PM on July 14, 2010
posted by cortex (staff) at 6:05 PM on July 14, 2010
I am pretty sure that every post I ever made would be deleted under the 'boring' flag system. This is because I am extremely dull and I like it that way. The internet is for everyone, even for people who get excited and sing wee happy songs about new features in spreadsheet programs.
posted by winna at 6:10 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by winna at 6:10 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
I would terribly happy if only the "wtf" flag was true. Truly a flag for all situations, "wtf."
posted by that girl at 6:10 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by that girl at 6:10 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
I want a flag that says "can someone else please flag this?" because sometimes I want a post/comment to be flagged but I don't want to be the one that does it.
posted by qvantamon at 6:26 PM on July 14, 2010
posted by qvantamon at 6:26 PM on July 14, 2010
A MAN A PLAN A YAM - METAFILTER
posted by The Whelk at 6:29 PM on July 14, 2010 [4 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 6:29 PM on July 14, 2010 [4 favorites]
No flag, no country!
Seriously, what would the national flag of MetaFilter look like? A cat in a fedora?
posted by grapefruitmoon at 7:14 PM on July 14, 2010
Seriously, what would the national flag of MetaFilter look like? A cat in a fedora?
posted by grapefruitmoon at 7:14 PM on July 14, 2010
jessamyn: No. Other is fine. We basically should have three flags: look at this QUICK, look at this eventually and fix this.
As a result, I tag most things as racism so that maybe you'll notice it before the thread is too long and you don't want to delete it because it's long.
In case you ever wondered why I flag so many things as racist.
posted by paisley henosis at 7:31 PM on July 14, 2010
As a result, I tag most things as racism so that maybe you'll notice it before the thread is too long and you don't want to delete it because it's long.
In case you ever wondered why I flag so many things as racist.
posted by paisley henosis at 7:31 PM on July 14, 2010
Yeah. I was wondering.
posted by crunchland at 7:36 PM on July 14, 2010
posted by crunchland at 7:36 PM on July 14, 2010
hey cut that out.
I was shy about flagging cause I thought it was a BIG TING but now? Ehhhhh. I flag shit think is ad or leading bad places cause I know, thanks to MetaTalk, that's just sticking a flare on something that says HEY MAYBE YOU SHOULD LOOK AT THIS and whole BUNCH of them means LOOK AT THIS.
Thinking of it as "Hey look at this" rather than "I Hate this!" has helped me.
posted by The Whelk at 7:39 PM on July 14, 2010
I was shy about flagging cause I thought it was a BIG TING but now? Ehhhhh. I flag shit think is ad or leading bad places cause I know, thanks to MetaTalk, that's just sticking a flare on something that says HEY MAYBE YOU SHOULD LOOK AT THIS and whole BUNCH of them means LOOK AT THIS.
Thinking of it as "Hey look at this" rather than "I Hate this!" has helped me.
posted by The Whelk at 7:39 PM on July 14, 2010
also fuck you English grammar and spelling
posted by The Whelk at 7:41 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by The Whelk at 7:41 PM on July 14, 2010 [1 favorite]
another suggestion: periodically, "flag" is rendered as "flog" with all that implies...
posted by boo_radley at 10:07 PM on July 14, 2010
posted by boo_radley at 10:07 PM on July 14, 2010
I would go so far as to say that everyone on the mod team has thought about how the site would be different if they could actually run it exactly the way they wanted, yeah.
If you consider all possible universes, there is at least one in which your alternate self is enjoying MetaFilter exactly as you would want it to be.
Surely that is good enough for you?
posted by Meatbomb at 11:44 PM on July 14, 2010
If you consider all possible universes, there is at least one in which your alternate self is enjoying MetaFilter exactly as you would want it to be.
Surely that is good enough for you?
posted by Meatbomb at 11:44 PM on July 14, 2010
It's pretty hard to find something that interests literally no one.
I'm on a mission now. My next post will put anyone who looks at it into a coma.
posted by marxchivist at 7:15 AM on July 15, 2010
I'm on a mission now. My next post will put anyone who looks at it into a coma.
posted by marxchivist at 7:15 AM on July 15, 2010
My next post will put anyone who looks at it into a coma.
Kind of like the anti-Samizdat?
posted by grapefruitmoon at 7:28 AM on July 15, 2010
Kind of like the anti-Samizdat?
posted by grapefruitmoon at 7:28 AM on July 15, 2010
W (Whiskey)
"I require medical assistance."
Eponysterical!
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 7:33 AM on July 15, 2010
"I require medical assistance."
Eponysterical!
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 7:33 AM on July 15, 2010
Anyone who does not understand the contrapositive is not jessamyn.
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 7:34 AM on July 15, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 7:34 AM on July 15, 2010 [1 favorite]
In my opinion, the world hasn't heard a proper contrapositive since the Baroque eraoh wait
posted by Think_Long at 8:00 AM on July 15, 2010
posted by Think_Long at 8:00 AM on July 15, 2010
The original already has kind of a techno-noise thing going on.
Are U Being Served? by Regurgitator.
posted by harriet vane at 8:26 AM on July 15, 2010 [1 favorite]
Are U Being Served? by Regurgitator.
posted by harriet vane at 8:26 AM on July 15, 2010 [1 favorite]
Mods-- When people propose flag options that you strongly disagree with adding (like a "this isn't best of the web" flag), you should add them anyways, but not have it actually notify you of the flag. So the person then won't threadshit, and you won't be bothered by the superfluous flagging! Nearly everybody wins!
posted by haveanicesummer at 8:48 AM on July 15, 2010
posted by haveanicesummer at 8:48 AM on July 15, 2010
Oh look, it's almost the second anniversary of when I couldn't believe we were still talking about this shit.
posted by kittyprecious at 11:09 AM on July 15, 2010
posted by kittyprecious at 11:09 AM on July 15, 2010
but not have it actually notify you of the flag.
Oh, so you mean, make it work like all the other flags?
posted by crunchland at 3:00 PM on July 15, 2010
Oh, so you mean, make it work like all the other flags?
posted by crunchland at 3:00 PM on July 15, 2010
You are a laff a minute, crunchland.
posted by rtha at 3:19 PM on July 15, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by rtha at 3:19 PM on July 15, 2010 [1 favorite]
jessamyn: - this comment mentions libraries and I didn't want you to miss it.
Isn't that what 'other' is for?
Also, can we have a placebo flag entitled 'factually incorrect'? It would save me a lot of shouting at my monitor...
posted by Dysk at 5:10 PM on July 15, 2010
Isn't that what 'other' is for?
Also, can we have a placebo flag entitled 'factually incorrect'? It would save me a lot of shouting at my monitor...
posted by Dysk at 5:10 PM on July 15, 2010
There is no guideline against being uninteresting.
Which is the only reason I get to stick around.
posted by dg at 7:00 PM on July 15, 2010
Which is the only reason I get to stick around.
posted by dg at 7:00 PM on July 15, 2010
You are a laff a minute, crunchland. Thanks. I'm also very good looking. Rich, too.
posted by crunchland at 3:48 AM on July 16, 2010
posted by crunchland at 3:48 AM on July 16, 2010
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posted by Think_Long at 12:32 PM on July 14, 2010