I just made my first post to metafilter.

September 18, 2010 12:04 PM

I just made my first post to metafilter.

I wanted to post about the arcade fire/html 5 song a couple of weeks ago, but someone beat me to it. I found this this morning and was a little surprised that no one has reported on it yet. I was kind of nervous about posting to the blue, so please if I did something wrong, or messed up somehow, please let me know here.

posted by TheBones to MetaFilter-Related at 12:04 PM (83 comments total)

Link

It's a little bit light for my tastes, but definitely Internet-related and interesting. The subject matter is practically guaranteed to get some people arguing, but it's Saturday (mostly) so will probably go all right.

I've seen worse first efforts, to be sure.
posted by Roger Dodger at 12:08 PM on September 18, 2010

Thanks for putting a link, sorry, yes I posted on the 4chan ddos attacks.
posted by TheBones at 12:10 PM on September 18, 2010

Can you consider how tiresome it would get if everyone posted a MetaTalk thread for commentary when they made their first post?
posted by chiababe at 12:11 PM on September 18, 2010 [10 favorites]

mods must be watching football.
posted by HuronBob at 12:12 PM on September 18, 2010

Flag my post and move on then. Unless you just want to crap on my post, in which case, please continue.
posted by TheBones at 12:14 PM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]

if I did something wrong, or messed up somehow, please let me know here.

I think it needs Beatniks. Also, maybe something to draw in the "Tween" demographic? And pictures of food to really make it "pop".
posted by hermitosis at 12:14 PM on September 18, 2010 [6 favorites]

First you say "please if I did something wrong, or messed up somehow, please let me know here." and then when people point out what you did wrong and what you could improve you say "Flag my post and move on then. Unless you just want to crap on my post, in which case, please continue."

I think that's a bit rich.
posted by grouse at 12:18 PM on September 18, 2010 [37 favorites]

That was a really badly-written article. There are better ones at TorrentFreak, Gawker, pretty much anywhere else.

On preview...

Flag my post and move on then. Unless you just want to crap on my post, in which case, please continue.

You have a bit of a history of not-getting-how-things-work-here, you know. You posted to MetaTalk, asking for feedback. You might want to step back and allow people to respond to your request, rather than pick a fight about it.
posted by Gator at 12:18 PM on September 18, 2010

if I did something wrong, or messed up somehow, please let me know here.

I will let you know in a slightly kinder way than chiababe that, while your post on the blue is okay, this post is unnecessary. If your post gets deleted, there will be a reason noted. If you still have questions after that, you can ask a mod. But until a post gets deleted, I wouldn't bother with the pre-emptive metatalk post.
posted by amro at 12:19 PM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]

THIS IS KILLING METAFILTER!!!!
posted by Biru at 12:21 PM on September 18, 2010

Gator, you are right- I was commenting on chiababe's post, which was a comment on the uselessness of this post. I don't need feedback on this post, I was looking for feedback on the post I made to the blue.

Thanks, mods, if this is taking up space on MeTa, please delete the post. I was just looking for constructive criticism on the post I made to the blue.
posted by TheBones at 12:22 PM on September 18, 2010

I don't need feedback on this post

Clearly you do. I mean, you want to post these perfect Metafilter threads but not give a crap about the mistakes you make in Metatalk? That seems odd.
posted by amro at 12:24 PM on September 18, 2010 [9 favorites]

I just made my first comment in this thread.
posted by dhammond at 12:26 PM on September 18, 2010 [14 favorites]

I just made my first^* bowel movement of the day.

Just, y'know, fyi.






^*And presumably only, but I suppose you never know.
posted by dersins at 12:30 PM on September 18, 2010

I just removed the post. No biggie, but it's just really thin as a post with one link to a short article talking about a thing of unclear import. If there are better write-ups for all this out there right now, they could have been included in the post; a little bit of context, either provided by a more substantial writeup in a link or in the presentation of the post itself, would help make it clearer why this is worth posting to metafilter.

More generally, I suspect it'll be clearer a few days from now than it is right now whether this is really a notable thing or just /b/ kids doing some dumb shortlived thing on the internet again. 4Chan's enough of an established entity by now that them getting up in somebody's business in yet another war of DDoS attrition isn't really jaw-dropping news by itself.

On a different front, I'm in agreement with the folks who feel like this Metatalk post itself was unnecessary; posting is not that big of a deal, and if you make a post and something goes really weird as a result that might be something to bring to Metatalk to discuss but generally speaking a preemptive "I have made a post, please discuss" sort of thing isn't a great idea.
posted by cortex (staff) at 12:31 PM on September 18, 2010 [5 favorites]

The best advice I can give, and I mean this sincerely, is just to take a deep breath, and then let your posts go free. Don't moderate too closely. And fergoodnesssake don't preemptively start MeTa threads about the quality of your posts. Irrespective of how it's meant, too many people will consider these sorts of actions to be self-aggrandizing, and will begin to give you a hard time.

As you continue to post, you will learn from plenty from the ensuing threads about what worked and what didn't go over so well. You'll learn more from the quality of conversation that takes place in the thread than the number of comments or the number of favorites. This still seems to me to be more art than science.

Don't take anything too personally from any one commentator. Some people have very idiosyncratic axes to grind. You needn't make MetaFilter what they think it ought to be. But when a mod deletes the post -- like what happened in your case -- take that advice to heart.
posted by .kobayashi. at 12:38 PM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]

I apologize cortex, you are right, I should have me-mailed you or jessamyn about it. I appreciate the feedback- that is what I was looking for. I shouldn't have asked for it here- I am trying to be a good mefite. You can close this thread up as well.
posted by TheBones at 12:39 PM on September 18, 2010

TheBones, I have had a post deleted, don't take it personally.
posted by lee at 12:50 PM on September 18, 2010

I am trying to be a good mefite.

I, for one, appreciate you trying. Absorb, adapt, and keep plugging away. I haven't made very many FPPs, and was kinda uptight about my first few. Keep in mind that it's not a race to see who can post anything first. If you're rushing to make a fast one-link post so that it hits first, and someone comes along a few hours after you, and puts together something nicely researched and thought out, guess which one will get deleted.

Also, it is scientifically proven that haters are genetically compelled to hate, so just pity them. Sigh, shake your head, then delete your angry response.
posted by Devils Rancher at 1:04 PM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]

It happens. Try again with something else a bit later. Good luck!
posted by Artw at 1:14 PM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]

Who goes to the MPAA's website? Seems like if you really wanted to hurt them you'd attack Fandango or something.
posted by Horace Rumpole at 1:27 PM on September 18, 2010

This thread needs more MONSTER JAM.
posted by Burhanistan at 1:30 PM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]

I guess it distracts the little freaks from bittorenting everything not nailed down for a second or two.
posted by Artw at 1:33 PM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]

This is a poor use of MetaTalk.

Really - why do you need feedback on your post? If it lives, it lives. If not, there's always another time. It strikes me as rather narcissistic to want some special feedback on your first post.
posted by MuffinMan at 1:33 PM on September 18, 2010

He already apologized and said he shouldn't have asked.
posted by iconomy at 1:38 PM on September 18, 2010 [3 favorites]

Being a good mefite is NOT that hard.

Nobody here REALLY bites (except for the mods and they have all had their shots. Oh and a few rogue members here and there with low user numbers. Can't vouch for THEIR vaccinations tho.)
posted by St. Alia of the Bunnies at 1:45 PM on September 18, 2010

Wow, I've seen a million people come to Meta to complain about deleted posts, but this is the first time I've seen the post before the deletion.


I am trying to be a good mefite.

Seriously, consider what chiababe said.
posted by CunningLinguist at 1:52 PM on September 18, 2010

Really - why do you need feedback on your post? If it lives, it lives. If not, there's always another time. It strikes me as rather narcissistic to want some special feedback on your first post.

There seem to be a couple of types of people when it comes to making front page posts. The first sees it as no big deal and if a post doesn't go well, or gets deleted, then, okay, whatever. The next one will be better.

The second type sees it as a huge deal and after making a post, basically sits there with fingers crossed, nervously muttering "please go well, please go well, please go well". As this latter type myself, I totally sympathize with TheBones on this. It's not narcissism, but nervousness, in the form of a strong desire not to screw up.

That said, I still agree with others that this isn't what MetaTalk is really for. It wouldn't be good if every first-time poster who feels like I do posted a feedback-soliciting thread over here to go with it. But as far as transgressions go, this thread seems like no big deal at all, really.
posted by FishBike at 1:54 PM on September 18, 2010 [3 favorites]

if this is taking up space on MeTa, please delete the post

ARGH YOU'RE USING UP ALL THE PIXELS
posted by jtron at 2:18 PM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]

DEY DURK ARR JAAAAAWRBS!!!!
posted by Biru at 2:32 PM on September 18, 2010

...4chan ddos attacks.

I've had a couple of cocktails. Heck .. it's after 5:00 p.m. here. I read that as "dildo attacks!"

Carry on.
posted by ericb at 2:42 PM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]

Well, before this gets closed up, is it recipe time yet?

I don't have any of my own to share today, but I ran across this yesterday and am really looking forward to trying it out as soon as I make it to United Noodles to pick up some tamarind and lemongrass, 'cause I just love Vietnamese sour soup (Canh Chua, in this case, Canh Chua Tom since this recipe has shrimp)
posted by marsha56 at 2:43 PM on September 18, 2010

Don't assume that just because something has not been posted here, therefore no one on mefi is aware of it. There is no prize for being first, and this isn't Digg where we always have to be debating the same topic as every other site on the coolkids' network.

Bet you half of mefi was following that 4chan story, and that no one posted it over several days doesn't mean you've got a scoop, but something not fpp worthy.

Many here read very widely. It's not all blue and green out there.
posted by fourcheesemac at 2:43 PM on September 18, 2010

as the emperor
i do not post
this is a rule
if in doubt do
not post unless
it is something
blowing up or
underwater.
it is best not
to learn
how to link
this was kept a
secret from me for
what
3 years? and
Matteo beat me to my first actual attempt...

the emperor does not post.

Maybe someone can take a shot at it in a few days if this turns into something bigger than just 4Chan Gets Up To Shenanigans Again?

The +4 box of editorial deletion.
posted by clavdivs at 2:52 PM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]

Well, before this gets closed up, is it recipe time yet?

No, no it is not recipe time.

Don't worry about it TheBones, generally speaking worrying about scoops is less important than posting something that is sort of great [or even very great]. In any case, you are doing fine.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 2:55 PM on September 18, 2010 [4 favorites]

This is an interesting variation on "be nice to me; it's my first post" within the FPP itself.

In other news, I got it into my head that I really want to make some milk-braised pork chops for dinner, so I've got a couple of inch-thick pork chops from a butcher that has a retail sideline from its usual wholesale business for the restaurant industry. I haven't yet settled on a recipe, though. Chicken-Fried Pork Chops with Andouille-Milk Gravy over Buttermilk Mashed Potatoes is looking good, as well. Lunch is shaping up to be polenta, sausage & olive fingers.
posted by UbuRoivas at 2:56 PM on September 18, 2010

shit, should've previewed.
posted by UbuRoivas at 2:56 PM on September 18, 2010

Come on, cowgirl up.
posted by Burhanistan at 2:56 PM on September 18, 2010

Hey Marsha, don't bother with the pain-in-the-ass tamarind pulp. Look for bottled tamarind nectar or juice. (Just don't get the kind that has tons of sugar added - that's for deserts.
posted by CunningLinguist at 2:58 PM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]

So sorry, Jessamyn. I had thought that the policy was no recipes while discussion was still underway. Since it seemed over to me, I thought it would be okay. Is the policy, no recipes in MeTa at all?
posted by marsha56 at 2:59 PM on September 18, 2010

There are like 70 quadrillion recipes easily available via googling. If you have to share something culinary, maybe share some awesome trick or technique that isn't widely known or is taught in cooking school or something. Recipes by themselves are cheap.
posted by Burhanistan at 3:03 PM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]

Is the policy, no recipes in MeTa at all?

All bets are off if the MeTa callout has anything to do with grilled cheese is all I know.
posted by .kobayashi. at 3:06 PM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]

There are like 70 quadrillion recipes easily available via googling. If you have to share something culinary, maybe share some awesome trick or technique that isn't widely known or is taught in cooking school or something. Recipes by themselves are cheap.

While that is true, it doesn't give the full picture. In order to google a recipe you generally have to have some idea of what you're looking for.

For example, I felt like milk-braised pork chops because that was something my dad would make from time to time, and they're very tasty. Others mightn't even think of braising anything in milk, let alone pork chops*. So, even if posting a recipe is cheap & easy, the value-add comes in the conception of what recipe to search for in the first place.

Or perhaps, braising in milk qualifies as "some awesome trick or technique that isn't widely known"? But again, it's not the technical specificics of the technique, but more the fact that the technique exists at all, that might not be widely known.

* Especially so if they're Jewish; no less so if they're Mussulman, vegetarian, vegan or lactose intolerant.
posted by UbuRoivas at 3:21 PM on September 18, 2010

Bet you half of mefi was following that 4chan story, and that no one posted it over several days doesn't mean you've got a scoop, but something not fpp worthy.

Many here read very widely. It's not all blue and green out there.


I actually didn't know, and was a tad interested for teh lawls. I'm just glad I saw it before it was deleted, so I could do a bit of looking for myself.


Some of us are just blue and green, because most other sites at work are blocked or are the FoxNews homepage. If I think something might be really cool, I come home and look from my home PC.
posted by From the Fortress at 3:21 PM on September 18, 2010

Really - why do you need feedback on your post? If it lives, it lives.

FTFY
posted by djgh at 3:45 PM on September 18, 2010

My awesome recipe:

Can O' Beans
Tabasco Sauce

Open can, pour beans into bowl, heat, add Tabasco Sauce. Eat. Some people use a spoon.
posted by KokuRyu at 3:58 PM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]

Thanks, mods, if this is taking up space on MeTa, please delete the post.

If you want to disappear this post, the optimal way to do it is to start theorizing about Tom Cruise and his teeth.
posted by cucumber at 3:59 PM on September 18, 2010 [4 favorites]

Well, before this gets closed up, is it recipe time yet?

Don't let them give you any of that flank-steak bullshit. You hold out for the London broil!
posted by mazola at 4:08 PM on September 18, 2010

Some of us are just blue and green, because most other sites at work are blocked or are the FoxNews homepage. If I think something might be really cool, I come home and look from my home PC.

All I can say is that opening half the FPPs on Mefi and seeing your data counter go up to 1 MB is pretty fantastic.
posted by ersatz at 4:13 PM on September 18, 2010

I'm the king of making inadvertent double posts. Don't sweat it. Welcome to MeFi. Just remember, I am always right, and if I'm not, it's your fault.
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 5:15 PM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]

Pork chops...

two pork chops
dredge through melted butter
dredge through mix of panko breading, grated parmesan, italian seasoning, a little garlic powder.
bake for 40 minutes at 425 degrees.

moist, great flavor.. made 'em tonight.. mmmmmmm
posted by HuronBob at 6:32 PM on September 18, 2010

It's not easy, being just blue and green.
posted by box at 7:00 PM on September 18, 2010

Next time try posting a video of a monkey riding on a pig.
posted by gwint at 7:17 PM on September 18, 2010

For the record, I did not post this thread.
posted by the_bone at 7:53 PM on September 18, 2010 [1 favorite]

I just accidentally the whole metafilter.
posted by carsonb at 8:04 PM on September 18, 2010

Well, before this gets closed up, is it recipe time yet?

No, it's time for the perculator.
posted by madamjujujive at 8:16 PM on September 18, 2010 [4 favorites]

[DIETER] NOW IS THE TIME ON MEFI WHEN WE DANCE [/DIETER]
posted by Hardcore Poser at 8:20 PM on September 18, 2010 [3 favorites]

Flag my post and move on then. Unless you just want to crap on my post, in which case, please continue.

That, right there, would be what you did wrong, there. And posting this in MeTa in the first place. The FPP itself? Fine and dandy. First FPPs tend to go better here if you put together a fine post, share it with everyone, then either avoid the thread entirely for a full day or log out and don't log back in when you read the thread so you don't say anything stupid.

This MeTa? Kind of like finishing your first painting ever and then hanging it in a museum with a sign that says "this is my first painting ever, tell me what you think of it." It will not end well.
posted by davejay at 9:20 PM on September 18, 2010

Jesus aperaping christ.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 9:49 PM on September 18, 2010

I remember Rape Ape. It was on Saturday mornings. The giant ape rode around on the molester van and they ...

Wait, scratch that. I think some of those details might be a bit hazy.
posted by mr_crash_davis mark II: Jazz Odyssey at 10:20 PM on September 18, 2010

"I just made my first post to metafilter."

I just made my first poo poo in potty.
posted by puny human at 10:59 PM on September 18, 2010

TheBones: “I apologize cortex, you are right, I should have me-mailed you or jessamyn about it. I appreciate the feedback- that is what I was looking for. I shouldn't have asked for it here- I am trying to be a good mefite. You can close this thread up as well.”

Wow.

You made your first post, then asked whether it was okay, and then apologized because it wasn't perfect and because you took up space in meta to ask about it? And you accepted that it was deleted with graceful serenity? That's pretty great.

I have to say, folks: this here is one stand-up person. I like you, TheBones. Welcome to Metafilter. I think you're already a better mefite than many. Sincerely – if all of us were as decent and easygoing about the way things work, the world would be a nicer, happier place.

And please pay no mind to the weird crap that will inevitably happen here until another metatalk post or two takes everyone's attention elsewhere. Regardless of all of it, it's nice to have you around.
posted by koeselitz at 11:37 PM on September 18, 2010 [2 favorites]

Why did I ever come back?
posted by The Lady is a designer at 11:38 PM on September 18, 2010

Why did you ever leave, designerji?
posted by UbuRoivas at 2:04 AM on September 19, 2010

There are like 70 quadrillion recipes easily available via googling.

True, but most of them are American recipes which involve "take one can of X, and one jar of Y, and then add sugar." It's like no-one's even heard of cooking.
posted by pompomtom at 2:09 AM on September 19, 2010 [1 favorite]

Probably explains why they fail at mushroom identification.
posted by UbuRoivas at 2:40 AM on September 19, 2010 [1 favorite]

*giggles at ubu's snarks*

leave..? a long story involving darkest africa, apophenia and the blurring liminality between the intangible and tangible

otoh

BACK ;p
posted by The Lady is a designer at 3:42 AM on September 19, 2010

oh, that happens to me *all* the time.
posted by UbuRoivas at 4:58 AM on September 19, 2010

Metafilter is ruined forever by this post. Dozens of potentially awesome members are shaking their heads and disabling their accounts. It won't end there. They'll tell everyone they know. And this site will atrophy into a pale (blue) imitation of its former self. I can hear them already...

Metafilter? Oh God, no. Sometimes people make naive, if well-meaning posts. I couldn't stand it anymore. I started staying up at night. Panic attacks. Thinking about it. Dreading opening my laptop in the morning. I would think of excuses, other things to do. 'I need one more cup of coffee first. I wonder if my neighbors are still eating breakfast. I should check.' In the end, it was too much. Too much. Just don't do it.


Anyway.

""take one can of X, and one jar of Y, and then add sugar.""

Only if the can has an easy tab thing. I'll be fucked if I'm going to use a can opener. I'm not Gordon Ramsey.
posted by the young rope-rider at 7:41 AM on September 19, 2010 [3 favorites]

True, but most of them are American recipes which involve "take one can of X, and one jar of Y, and then add sugar."

This sweetened whiskey-worm stew is terrible.
posted by griphus at 1:02 PM on September 19, 2010

I was just googling for a Gordon Ramsey brand can opener, when I found this. I don't quite know what to make of it.

13 things Chef Gordon Ramsey would tell Fonzie to do to himself with a can opener

1. Just, take the Hamilton Beach cord and hang yourself you 'freakin' Potsie.
2. Why don't you take that Kitchen Aid can opener to Inspiration Point and sit on it.
3. Break open a can of chef Boyardee Spaghettios before I make you use the can opener to cut off Henry's Winkler.
4. Use this Cuisinart and beat your cousin's Chachi. And, tell that Jackass Joanie won't love Chachi for more than two seasons.
5. Why don't you use this Westblend to cut off Jenny's Piccilo.
6. Let's step into my office and use the mechanical can opener to exactomundo that that overactive thumb from Pinky's tuscadaro.
7. Heyyy! I hope that Cuisinart slips and blackens your decker.
8. When I said open the Peaches with the Toastmaster I didn't mean have a threesome on the kitchen counter, you Donkeys!
9. How can somebody so mechanically inclined not how to shove the Cuisinart up their Arcola?
10. Take that jacket off the chef's jacket or I'll make make you use Jack LaLane's Kitchen Aid to cut off Robin's William. Like we need to see a spin off that leads to Jonathan Winters in a diaper!
11. Microwave popcorn is not a side dish! Now, take this god damned Westblend and wax off your Pat Morita.
12. You tried this Risotto and didn't want shove that Black & Decker JW200 down your Ralph Mouth? I'd shove you in the oven myself if those idiots Hansle and Grettle had remembered to turn it on.
13. I found my thrill on Blue Berry Hill. It involves Mrs C. shoving this Proctor Silex Power Opener up while Mr. C opens in a Glad Trash Bag Commercial for the Disney Channel.
posted by UbuRoivas at 2:24 PM on September 19, 2010 [3 favorites]

I don't know why I read this meta but I do know why I'm making this post.
posted by sammyo at 5:01 PM on September 19, 2010

One day I hope to make my first post to Metafilter, but it will have to be perfect. I plan to follow the Crunchland Template (which, interestingly, is also the name of my new band) yet I hope to inject it with just enough of my own foul personality to create a sort of perfect mutant poster child for, umm, posts. It will be a thing of ugly/beautiful stylistic splendour shot through with content both superficial and profound. The links will appear just so, POW, ZAP and BLAM, but more Tim Burton than Adam West and yet with just enough of that OTT sixties self-mockery to leave a taste in the mouth somewhere between candy floss and the freshest Beausoleil oyster.

Oh God oh God oh God I will never make a Mefi Post.
posted by Decani at 5:59 PM on September 19, 2010 [1 favorite]

Yes, Decani, yes, yes, yeeessss. That is just exactly it.
posted by sammyo at 6:04 PM on September 19, 2010

Sigh
posted by sammyo at 6:05 PM on September 19, 2010

I heard that some people are getting together for a soda. Is this the right place?
posted by slogger at 11:57 AM on September 20, 2010

Hold on now, UbuRoivas – maybe it's a cultural-divide thing, but your last comment really confused me.

You actually wanted to buy a Gordon Ramsay brand can opener?
posted by koeselitz at 2:44 PM on September 20, 2010

My last deleted post had someone declare it was so bad they were ashamed it would show up in deleted posts scripts. My (non-deleted) post from today made someone call me an asshole in the thread, but that comment was deleted. Om.
posted by swift at 11:16 AM on September 21, 2010 [1 favorite]

I once had a call out on my eyes and mouth, but it was a different avatar, does that count?
posted by The Lady is a designer at 2:11 PM on September 21, 2010

No
posted by Burhanistan at 2:14 PM on September 21, 2010

Yeah, well, I love you too, Burh
posted by The Lady is a designer at 2:30 PM on September 21, 2010

You actually wanted to buy a Gordon Ramsay brand can opener?

Yes, a bad chef blames his equipment, but if he can blame the celebrity-chef-endorsed equipment instead, the blame gets shifted.

Like my Nigella Lawson turkey baster, for example. Who the fuck needs one that huge?
posted by UbuRoivas at 5:14 PM on September 21, 2010 [2 favorites]

Like my Nigella Lawson turkey baster, for example. Who the fuck needs one that huge?
posted by UbuRoivas at 1:14 AM on September 22

Why, Nigella does, apparently.

I've just noticed that "Burhanistan" is an anagram of "Brutish nana". Apropos of bugger all, probably.
posted by Decani at 4:00 PM on September 23, 2010