crackers October 1, 2010 4:14 PM   Subscribe

I'd probably want to sweep this booger-string of a deleted thread under the rug too if it was my site. But it's sort of sad to lose such a gold star collection of mefi members practicing the non-bigotry they preach, so if anyone lost a comment they're particularly proud of the deleting mod pretty much invited you to re-post it to the open thread here.
posted by jfuller to MetaFilter-Related at 4:14 PM (24 comments total)

can i flag this? ahma flag this...
(did you really have to call it 'crackers?' f'r fuck's sake, buddy.)
posted by artof.mulata at 4:39 PM on October 1, 2010


The reason we delete stuff is so that it's deleted. If you have something you're trying to say here other than just basically "hey look at this deleted thread" then it's lost on me. I'll leave this open for a bit in case you decide to come back and explain what you're talking about [or maybe someone else can] but what is it with the Friday night scab-picking in MetaTalk?
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 4:43 PM on October 1, 2010


Is there a reason in that deletion reason?

There probably should be.
posted by Sys Rq at 4:43 PM on October 1, 2010 [1 favorite]


Heh. I was kind of enjoying the serene beauty of jfuller holding a trainwreck but nobody coming.
posted by Artw at 4:44 PM on October 1, 2010 [1 favorite]


Why don't we give jfuller the benefit of the doubt and assume he meant to link to the deleted post about the masturbating girls?
posted by crunchland at 4:49 PM on October 1, 2010


Me, I miss the one with the to-do list.
posted by Artw at 4:51 PM on October 1, 2010


did you really have to call it 'crackers?' f'r fuck's sake, buddy

I mentioned in the thread that it was an ageist, classist FPP with a racist title. Got in a bit of a debate with someone about it. Got one or two posts deleted. Got advised by one Mefite to take it to Metatalk.
posted by uncanny hengeman at 4:51 PM on October 1, 2010


In halo and other FPSs the move that jfuller is attempting to pull here is refered to a "teabagging".
posted by Artw at 4:54 PM on October 1, 2010


I loved this comment from pjaust, ton of insight into what our media is like.

That is just ADORABLE. Reason and logic! Oh god, thank you, you made my Friday!

I kid, I kid, but....geez. I've got a 3 1/2 year old son. He's scared of the dark. He doesn't know why, but he is. We can sit there and talk through it for an hour, reach the end of the conversation with him agreeing that there's nothing to be scared of, but sure as shit he'll be out of his room in tears 15 seconds after the lights go off.

Now imagine if every time the news was turned on, some jackass decided to lead with a story about someone who was killed in the dark. What if there were people on talk radio saying "oh sure, nothing's wrong with the dark, I've spent time in the dark myself, but geez, there seems to be a conspiracy against the light. It's not about the dark's right to be dark, but why do we hate the light? Why is everyone trying to turn out the light? What are their secret motives? Are they waiting to kill you in the dark? Boy, something scary is going on here. Be vigilant! Your parents are probably part of the conspiracy!"

Sigh.

posted by furiousxgeorge at 4:56 PM on October 1, 2010 [5 favorites]


Is there a reason in that deletion reason?

I wasn't explicit there. Fast fingers getting away from me, I suppose. The implication re: lots of other deletions under similar circumstances is "man we've had a fair amount of posting in this vein lately and this is getting the axe as more than we probably need".

Beyond that, I too am confused by this metatalk post. People in the older thread noted the newer thread's deletion, and people reading the newer thread got a link to the older thread, so I'm not sure there's any need for a pointer in one direction or the other. If you were getting at something beyond that, jfuller, please let us know, but right now this seems kind of a non-starter of a thread.
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:59 PM on October 1, 2010


Crackers, huh? Can you see everyone down here from your high ground?
posted by Splunge at 5:09 PM on October 1, 2010


Seemed like an especially egregious instance of "Hey, here's a thread about race, so now show how enlightened you are by talking about 'privilege'!"

I'm glad it was deleted and I don't think we should get to quasi-un-delete a thread by posting a MeTa. That's all you're doing here, right? You don't seem to be taking issue with the deletion. If anyone who commented in the thread was really so attached to the discussion that they want to save it, they can check their browser history or the deleted thread blog.
posted by John Cohen at 5:10 PM on October 1, 2010


Why don't we give jfuller the benefit of the doubt and assume he meant to link to the deleted post about the masturbating girls?

The who with the what now?
posted by dersins at 5:19 PM on October 1, 2010 [5 favorites]


Oh, I just remembered that in addition to your browser history and the deleted thread blog, you can also find deleted threads in your recent activity. They show up the same as normal threads except with a little note saying "This thread was deleted."

So there is really never a good reason to post a MeTa just to salvage the discussion in a thread if you totally agree with the deletion.
posted by John Cohen at 5:25 PM on October 1, 2010


That's all you're doing here, right?

I don't know what he's doing here, exactly, and if he can drop by and clarify that'd be great or else we're probably just gonna close this up, since as we've said we don't see a whole lot of need for it. That said, it's worth noting that jfuller was active in neither thread so imputing some sort of personal overinvestment in the specific conversation there reads pretty uncharitably.
posted by cortex (staff) at 5:33 PM on October 1, 2010


Crackers, huh?

Goes well with MetaTalk Soup.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 5:48 PM on October 1, 2010


I use MeFi deleted posts, so no thread is lost for me. Try it out!
posted by clarknova at 6:04 PM on October 1, 2010 [1 favorite]


I got called a Craker once. I thought it was funny. Then I got the shit beat out of me, and it stopped being funny. That's pretty much what it takes to get me to stop laughing.
posted by cjorgensen at 6:19 PM on October 1, 2010 [2 favorites]


If I had to make a guess, I'd say that jfuller thinks it's hypocritical for people like, say, me to argue against using bigoted language targeted at the oppressed while finding amusement in bigoted language targeted at the privileged.

Clearly I disagree.
posted by muddgirl at 6:22 PM on October 1, 2010


Or maybe I'm wrong, who knows? Not me.
posted by muddgirl at 6:23 PM on October 1, 2010


cjorgensen: "I got called a Craker once. I thought it was funny. Then I got the shit beat out of me, and it stopped being funny."

This happened to me when I was a little kid -- the boy (about my age) calling me a cracker was Irish-American. After I laughed and said he was white as well, he hucked a chunk of brick at me, hitting me right on the eyebrow. I still have a scar.

Philadelphia was a weird place to grow up in the 80s, I guess.
posted by boo_radley at 6:25 PM on October 1, 2010


If I had to make a guess, I'd say that jfuller thinks it's hypocritical for people like, say, me to argue against using bigoted language targeted at the oppressed while finding amusement in bigoted language targeted at the privileged.

So I guess that makes it OK for white farmers in Zimbabwe to use bigoted language targeting the black population? Tell me more about your awesome theories.
posted by uncanny hengeman at 6:38 PM on October 1, 2010 [2 favorites]


I don't know anything about Zimbabwe. I thought the article was about the good old USA. You know, since it has "Americans" in the title and all.
posted by muddgirl at 6:49 PM on October 1, 2010


At this point it seems like jfuller may have proceeded with his weekend already or something and I don't see this going anywhere great, so I think we'll do that closing-the-thread thing. Happy Friday, everybody.
posted by cortex (staff) at 6:52 PM on October 1, 2010 [1 favorite]


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