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Moderation error : living v dead
posted by jeffburdges to MetaFilter-Related at 2:46 AM (55 comments total)

Oops! Already undone! Fee free to close this thread
posted by jeffburdges at 2:46 AM on September 18, 2013


Yeah, I gave them the go ahead to put the better post up.
posted by empath at 2:49 AM on September 18, 2013 [1 favorite]


Nothing is "Fee Free" around here, it's $5 for everyone, just like in town.

unless you're a member of the Cabal, of course.
posted by HuronBob at 2:50 AM on September 18, 2013 [4 favorites]


That was like reading the same post in two alternate universes.
posted by Kevin Street at 2:51 AM on September 18, 2013 [1 favorite]


I agree that "first post wins" is somewhat arbitrary, and as with so many things it's not a hard-and-fast rule as far as I can tell. We talked a little about this here (in the context of longer-ish timeframes).

It's tough because the alternative is to have the mods make editorial decisions, which we basically don't do outside of whether will work for Metafilter regardless of its doubleness, and technical/display issues. That seems like a short path to madness to me.

So yeah I wasn't happy to delete Rhaomi's post, thanks empath for greenlighting the switcheroo.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane (staff) at 2:59 AM on September 18, 2013


"That seems like a short path to madness to me."
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane.

er...
posted by marienbad at 4:03 AM on September 18, 2013 [14 favorites]


Thanks to nat for bringing the science in that thread. I still have no idea what's going on but maybe I'm a wee bit closer to having a clue.
posted by ardgedee at 4:41 AM on September 18, 2013


Dang. So close again to breaking the days-MeTa-free record. Alas, reset to zero and carry on.
posted by iamkimiam at 5:25 AM on September 18, 2013 [5 favorites]


I was hoping it was another he deleted, she deleted situation like this one.
posted by Rock Steady at 5:43 AM on September 18, 2013 [1 favorite]


Rhaomi's thread needs its tags back -- they disappeared due to its short time in limbo.
posted by ardgedee at 5:48 AM on September 18, 2013


iamkimiam: So close again to breaking the days-MeTa-free record.

What is the all-time record? Four days, I seem to recall?
posted by Rock Steady at 6:10 AM on September 18, 2013


iamkimiam: So close again to breaking the days-MeTa-free record.

Maybe folk are using the contact form more nowadays? I'm using it more rather than posting frequently on MetaTalk (which a mod gently pointed out I was doing a few months back). Finding it far easier on the mind and soul to get frank and detailed - but fair - feedback from one or two mods in my inbox, rather than frank and perhaps not always fair feedback from 10,000 highly articulate nerds on MetaTalk.
posted by Wordshore at 6:51 AM on September 18, 2013 [3 favorites]


frank and perhaps not always fair feedback from 10,000 highly articulate nerds on MetaTalk.

MetaTalk: YOU ARE WRONG AND WE HAVE TIME.
posted by gauche at 7:01 AM on September 18, 2013 [29 favorites]


Maybe folk are using the contact form more nowadays?

I have not looked at any hard data but I think there might be a skosh of this going on, yeah.

Rhaomi's thread needs its tags back -- they disappeared due to its short time in limbo.

Fixed, thanks for the catch.

Screw up
Moderation error


It's a little thing I guess but, fwiw, a terse presentation like this is one of the less friendly-to-us ways to say "hey I think something went weird here/needs a look/etc". I wouldn't walk up to a coffee shop counter and complain about confusion about a drink order that way, and I'm actually paying for that. I may just be grumpy this morning or something, but it's the kind of thing that puts me on edge from word one of a Metatalk post.
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:55 AM on September 18, 2013 [17 favorites]


So you're saying
Screw up
Moderation error

won't be the new metafilter t-shirt?
posted by cjorgensen at 8:01 AM on September 18, 2013


Maybe stenciled on the back of underwear.
posted by cortex (staff) at 8:03 AM on September 18, 2013 [6 favorites]


Its going to be SILENCED ALONG ALL OF MY COUNTLESS DIMENSIONS
posted by shothotbot at 8:04 AM on September 18, 2013 [6 favorites]


cortex: "It's a little thing I guess but, fwiw, a terse presentation like this is one of the less friendly-to-us ways to say "hey I think something went weird here/needs a look/etc". I wouldn't walk up to a coffee shop counter and complain about confusion about a drink order that way, and I'm actually paying for that. I may just be grumpy this morning or something, but it's the kind of thing that puts me on edge from word one of a Metatalk post."

You have to admit that things are slipping around here. The last time I used the contact form, I had to wait almost ONE WHOLE MINUTE to have something cheerfully fixed that I screwed up.
posted by double block and bleed at 8:24 AM on September 18, 2013 [3 favorites]


I considered variants on "Kernel panic" or "Abort, Retry, Fail?" but nothing jumped out at me. I clearly should've taken a bit more time with the meta to actually make a coherent joke.
posted by jeffburdges at 8:33 AM on September 18, 2013 [2 favorites]


I wouldn't walk up to a coffee shop counter and complain about confusion about a drink order that way

Yes, that was brusque. It's not a race and you aren't limited to 140 characters here.

You might have at least added ABORT, RETRY, FAIL?
posted by misha at 8:37 AM on September 18, 2013


Also, I am now giggling over the image of walking up to the Starbucks counter and calling this out like they announce it when your order's ready.

SCREW UP!
BARRISTA ERROR!

Hehehe.
posted by misha at 8:39 AM on September 18, 2013 [9 favorites]


Dammit, jeffburdges.
posted by misha at 8:41 AM on September 18, 2013


Dammit, jeffburdges.


Would also make a good shirt.
posted by cjorgensen at 8:58 AM on September 18, 2013


cortex: I wouldn't walk up to a coffee shop counter and complain about confusion about a drink order that way, and I'm actually paying for that. I may just be grumpy this morning or something, but it's the kind of thing that puts me on edge from word one of a Metatalk post.

Maybe you need a coffee?
posted by Rock Steady at 9:03 AM on September 18, 2013


Jim never has a second cup of error at home.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 9:08 AM on September 18, 2013 [9 favorites]


GURU MODERATION ERROR #4987549752961956
posted by ardgedee at 9:21 AM on September 18, 2013 [4 favorites]


Yeah, like I said, may just be some free-floating grumpiness on my part at play here. Just wanted to acknowledge how it hit me, but no harm done. It's not like I haven't failed to stick a few jokes in my time any given week so I can't exactly be too much of a stickler.

GURU MODERATION ERROR

I see you and raise you.

Maybe you need a coffee?

CAN'T GET ONE, STARBUCKS DOESN'T LIKE MY GUN
posted by cortex (staff) at 9:25 AM on September 18, 2013 [9 favorites]


Dammit, jeffburdges.


Would also make a good shirt.


I originally saw that as "Dammit, jeffbridges" and I would buy that t-shirt.
posted by entropicamericana at 9:26 AM on September 18, 2013 [3 favorites]


if you fish all that free-floating stuff out of your coffee, it's gonna be better right away [the coffee, that is].
posted by Namlit at 9:34 AM on September 18, 2013


> I see you and raise you.

Well-played, sir you slimy cheat. Well-played.
posted by ardgedee at 9:40 AM on September 18, 2013


And it was almost three days without a new MeTa. I hope someone notifies OSHA.
posted by planetesimal at 9:44 AM on September 18, 2013


What is the all-time record? Four days, I seem to recall?

40 days and 40 nights, actually, when the wrath of mathowie lay heavy on the site.

Now that I think of it, it might have been the math of wrathowie that caused that particular apocalypse....
posted by GenjiandProust at 11:00 AM on September 18, 2013 [3 favorites]


Its going to be SILENCED ALONG ALL OF MY COUNTLESS DIMENSIONS

I am pretty sure it was comments like this that got Yog-Sothoth to flame out all those vigintillions of aeons ago.
posted by GenjiandProust at 11:02 AM on September 18, 2013 [2 favorites]


STENCILED ALL MY LIFE
posted by dhruva at 11:08 AM on September 18, 2013


GURU MODERATION HAS A POSSE
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 11:17 AM on September 18, 2013


Its going to be SILENCED ALONG ALL OF MY COUNTLESS DIMENSIONS

Technically the Amplituhedron has countably many dimensions.

Also, isn't it weird how if you repeat the word Amplituhedron over and over again it stops seeming like it means anything?
posted by Elementary Penguin at 11:18 AM on September 18, 2013 [1 favorite]



I was hoping it was another he deleted, she deleted situation like this one.


What!?!? Boris Yeltsin's dead? I thought he'd just gone to Texas.
posted by philip-random at 11:19 AM on September 18, 2013


Also, isn't it weird how if you repeat the word Amplituhedron over and over again it stops seeming like it means anything?

If you keep going it starts sounding like a pretty awesome dinosaur/robot sidekick.
posted by Now there are two. There are two _______. at 11:53 AM on September 18, 2013


Also, isn't it weird how if you repeat the word Amplituhedron over and over again it stops seeming like it means anything?

Don't try that in front of a mirror.
posted by Mr. Yuck at 11:58 AM on September 18, 2013 [1 favorite]


Gauche's comment needs to be a t-shirt. STAT.
posted by arcticseal at 12:14 PM on September 18, 2013 [2 favorites]


Also, isn't it weird how if you repeat the word Amplituhedron over and over again it stops seeming like it means anything?

Cogitate
posted by planetesimal at 12:33 PM on September 18, 2013


I remember a Black and Decker commercial like that. Germany, the seventies...try it, real fast: BleckUndDeckahBleckUndDeckah.
posted by Namlit at 12:58 PM on September 18, 2013


40 days and 40 nights, actually, when the wrath of mathowie lay heavy on the site.

Speaking of Mathowie, did he trademark the name 'MetaFilter' perchance?
posted by Wordshore at 1:17 PM on September 18, 2013


living v dead
Am I the only one who, without clicking on anything, read that and thought, "zombies?"

[crickets]

Eh.
posted by sm1tten at 5:14 PM on September 18, 2013


So I'm kinda wondering how this field got checked:

"My request requires community input and cannot be addressed by contacting MetaFilter staff."

I mean, isn't this exactly the sort of post that field is supposed to filter out?
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 8:36 PM on September 18, 2013 [3 favorites]


[more crickets]
posted by Namlit at 7:49 AM on September 19, 2013


What is the all-time record?

The record was set in August 2001 when MetaTalk went 15.3 days (1,328,819 seconds if that's easier) without a post. This is a special case because Matt shut the site down during that time to go on vacation.

A 10.9 day (944,606 second) gap occurred in August 2000 between the 23rd and September 3rd. The site could have been shut down then too, I'm not sure.

So if we're looking at the modern era after 2002 when the site doesn't shut down, the record is 6.1 days (532,563 seconds) achieved in February 2004 between the 10th and 16th.

That's followed by:

August 2003: 3.4 days (290,499 seconds)
November 2002: 3.3 days (282,627 seconds)
November 2003: 3.1 days (275,624 seconds)
September 2012: 2.9 days (250,010 seconds)
May 2013: 2.9 days (249,010 seconds)
May 2011: 2.7 days (232,074 seconds)

The gap we just experienced was pretty close to these. It was 2.6 days (222,694 seconds).
posted by pb (staff) at 9:58 AM on September 19, 2013 [1 favorite]


Looks like that Feb. 2004 stretch was due to technical difficulties. Remember when MeFi was in someone's apartment?
posted by Rock Steady at 10:19 AM on September 19, 2013


ah, good catch. I think that makes August 2003 the modern, naturally-occurring gap to break then.
posted by pb (staff) at 10:22 AM on September 19, 2013


There are MetaFilter posts at the end of August 2000, and there doesn't appear to be any hint of MetaTalk technical difficulties during that almost 11-day gap, so it appears to be a natural occurrence. It's such an extreme outlier that it does seem to demand some other explanation. In any case, I think it's fine to call that the "pre-modern" record, with 3.4 days being the current modern mark. Also interesting that almost all of the top few gaps are either very early in MeFi history or fairly recent.
posted by Rock Steady at 11:45 AM on September 19, 2013


I kinda miss the days when we were n-thousand souls kicking around in the closet of some dude who knew matt.
posted by kaibutsu at 2:59 PM on September 19, 2013 [2 favorites]


Good grief, Metafilter is so old that it has a "modern era".
posted by pjern at 11:44 PM on September 22, 2013 [1 favorite]


pjern: Good grief, Metafilter is so old that it has a "modern era".

I can't wait until "Vintage Meta Filter" re-enactors start re-creating 20th Century MeFi threads on strictly period hardware and software, even going so far as to rebuild long-dead links so that the threads will be forever preserved as they originally operated.
posted by Rock Steady at 10:25 AM on September 23, 2013 [3 favorites]


...impatiently waiting for the award-winning meta alphabet thread to be re-enacted using strictly period brainpower and beverages.
posted by Namlit at 2:02 AM on September 24, 2013


I can't wait until "Vintage Meta Filter" re-enactors start re-creating 20th Century MeFi threads

Will they dress appropriately, with period-correct facial hair?
posted by GenjiandProust at 7:17 AM on September 24, 2013


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