Albums on Fanfare July 5, 2016 12:41 PM   Subscribe

The new Avalanches album is live-streaming, but the thread has closed. While a new post would be reasonable, I’m feeling spurred to ask: any chance of getting albums added to fanfare someday? musicbrainz and discogs would both be candidate sites for metadata.
posted by Going To Maine to Feature Requests at 12:41 PM (24 comments total) 1 user marked this as a favorite

In principle this is something we could think about at some undetermined time in the future.

But honestly, it will be a while. All ponies are on hold for a while as frimble settles in, and then we've got several higher priority items on the list that will happen before we add significant new projects.
posted by LobsterMitten (staff) at 12:44 PM on July 5, 2016


2ing.
posted by lmfsilva at 1:56 PM on July 5, 2016 [1 favorite]


Pony jail
posted by zachlipton at 2:04 PM on July 5, 2016 [9 favorites]


Too few places to promote and discuss music online?
posted by Joseph Gurl at 3:21 PM on July 5, 2016


Eh, at this point in the internet pretty much everything MetaFilter does can be done elsewhere; I think people (reasonably!) want to discuss stuff with this specific community.
posted by lalex at 3:24 PM on July 5, 2016 [14 favorites]


Until the ponies are set free could album/band/etc discussions fit into MeFi Music Talk?
posted by billiebee at 4:28 PM on July 5, 2016


This seems like a great idea because I find the "my favorite band has a new record" posts kind of out of place on the main page. Not to hate on anyone's music, it's just that there are hundreds of things released every day.
posted by bongo_x at 4:32 PM on July 5, 2016 [3 favorites]


as frimble settles in

This phrase has a lovely sound to it. I think the next Music Challenge should just be songs with this phrase as the title/chorus
posted by Greg Nog at 4:49 PM on July 5, 2016 [8 favorites]


As metafilter becomes enfrimbled
posted by Going To Maine at 5:35 PM on July 5, 2016 [10 favorites]


This seems like a great idea because I find the "my favorite band has a new record" posts kind of out of place on the main page.

I agree with this, and I do so speaking as someone guilty of making one of these posts in my over-exuberance the day Random Access Memories was released.
posted by 4ster at 9:15 PM on July 5, 2016 [1 favorite]


Certain albums raise to the level of postworthy, and I'll make the bold statement that RAM met that bar. Then again, I might be biased, as a fan of electronic music who has made many band and album focused posts.

That said, a second post on The Avalanches new album to discuss the streaming album seems thin to me.
posted by filthy light thief at 9:45 PM on July 5, 2016


Let me borrow this pony to ask when Fanfare book posting rights will be made available for everyone.
posted by Pendragon at 7:41 AM on July 6, 2016 [4 favorites]


I can see how opening up Fanfare to postings about albums would become a really difficult thing. Too many albums across far too many decades.

I honestly don't mind new album posts on the Blue. They receive the amount of attention that the community wants them to have. Sometimes that's a lot, sometimes that's nothing. I've posted plenty of new album posts that have received a wide spectrum of attention, and I think it's always appropriate whatever the attention level they receive is.

Ultimately the community decides what is "postworthy" through their participation.

Personally, I tend not to post about albums that can't be listened to, even if it's for a short window of time (like NPR First Listen links, for example). It might be worthwhile for, example, the Avalanches new album to have not been posted about until the streaming opportunity was available.

I could see, perhaps, having BANDS as a category on Fanfare. Not specific albums, but discussing a band's oeuvre, with the discussion sliding back and forth between albums as the conversation evolves. Then new albums could be brought up within that context.

But a separate Fanfare topic for every new album anyone wants to discuss? That seems like a bit much.
posted by hippybear at 10:53 AM on July 6, 2016 [1 favorite]


I'll be the one. Books and albums and (gasp) podcasts should have their own separate sub-sites. I liked fanfare a lot more when it was movies and tv.
posted by valkane at 7:10 PM on July 6, 2016 [1 favorite]


video is different from text is different from audio. I'm just saying. it muddies the waters.
posted by valkane at 7:12 PM on July 6, 2016


How does discusion about a book differ from discussion about a movie ? I see no reason for separate sub-sites.
posted by Pendragon at 7:41 AM on July 7, 2016 [1 favorite]


valkane: video is different from text is different from audio. I'm just saying. it muddies the waters.

Counterpoint: it's all about the story and how it's told. The only differences I see between a movie, a book, a podcast and an album is in the length and the depth of the story.
posted by filthy light thief at 1:23 PM on July 7, 2016


Further distinct subsites for discrete media categories is a non-starter in my mind; I think we have with the current crop of subsites already wandered out toward the limits of what is workable in terms of number of distinct functional areas of the site (and FanFare still needs a bunch of work, and Jobs is super low traffic, and Music remains circumstantially pretty niche, and IRL has discoverability issues). Breaking things up further would require a much stronger incentive than philosophical differences about inter-media differences or whatnot.

Adding additional media types to FanFare is the long-term plan; fixing how we present new and active threads/content on the default front page view of FanFare is the goal for making a variety of media types less of an issue. I hope to start getting back to that in the next couple months, at least sizing up where a good minimum starting point would be and seeing what's feasible to tackle with frimble there.
posted by cortex (staff) at 1:51 PM on July 7, 2016 [1 favorite]


Counterpoint: it's all about the story and how it's told. The only differences I see between a movie, a book, a podcast and an album is in the length and the depth of the story.

Movies and albums aren't stories. Most popular movies are basically multi-sensory novels, unfortunately, but Stan Brakhage says hey. As for music, reducing it to narrative is doing it a great disservice.
posted by Joseph Gurl at 3:27 PM on July 7, 2016


Counterpoint: it's all about the story and how it's told. The only differences I see between a movie, a book, a podcast and an album is in the length and the depth of the story.

Movies and albums aren't stories. Most popular movies are basically multi-sensory novels, unfortunately, but Stan Brakhage says hey. As for music, reducing it to narrative is doing it a great disservice.


By that standard, books aren’t necessarily stories either. Not that that’s a problem - I’m just sayin’.
posted by Going To Maine at 3:32 PM on July 7, 2016 [1 favorite]


albums aren't stories

I'd like to introduce you to prog rock and the "concept album".
posted by hippybear at 1:10 AM on July 8, 2016


HIPPYBEAR YOU ARE DEAD TO ME

Going to Maine: YES.

(I'd like to introduce you to Nathalie Sarraute...)
posted by Joseph Gurl at 10:36 PM on July 8, 2016


All ponies are on hold for a while as frimble settles in

So frimble how is the ColdFusion to PHP conversion going?
posted by 922257033c4a0f3cecdbd819a46d626999d1af4a at 5:00 PM on July 13, 2016 [1 favorite]


And when can we expect our API keys?
posted by Going To Maine at 5:03 PM on July 13, 2016


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