Agregation sites as FPPs August 7, 2017 6:15 PM   Subscribe

These seem to be a lot of FPPs that are links to aggregation sites that pretty much take content other people have done, put a bunch of it together, and add ads. For instance, since the beginning of May this year, there have been 20 FPPs that include links to BoredPanda. (link is to a search of metafilter for instances of boredpanda) There are fewer links to similar sites like Viral Nova
posted by larrybob to Etiquette/Policy at 6:15 PM (112 comments total) 4 users marked this as a favorite

Our basic line on this is, it's fine to link to reasonably reputable aggregation sites, but also it's good practice to link to originals when you can.
posted by LobsterMitten (staff) at 6:16 PM on August 7 [8 favorites]


Would you prefer that someone go through and link each individual source image? Honest question.

Also, isn't Metafilter kinda a place that aggregates stuff from around the web and adds ads?
posted by cyphill at 6:41 PM on August 7 [4 favorites]


No, because we aggregate links. We don't rehost the content thereby eliminating both the hits to the original and the tracking information that goes along with it.
posted by Mitheral at 7:00 PM on August 7 [13 favorites]


BoredPanda is a pretty lazy link.
posted by 41swans at 7:12 PM on August 7 [15 favorites]


Even though sometimes I do laugh at the content, I'm almost always put off by BoredPanda in particular because on top of aggregation plus ads, it is completely awful when it comes to splitting content across 10-20 pages for no reason other than impressions. I'd probably not miss them if we stopped posting links to it.
posted by tocts at 7:21 PM on August 7 [13 favorites]


Nearly every Bored Panda link (mine and others) has at least one comment akin to "Thank you, I really needed this today." I'll stop if that's the consensus, but those kinds of comments are my favorites, regardless of the post.
posted by Room 641-A at 7:28 PM on August 7 [28 favorites]


Thank you, I really needed this today.
posted by Chrysostom at 7:35 PM on August 7 [16 favorites]


The thing about those aggregator posts is that they generally serve as a pretty solid application of low-stress brain brillo. It's a million pictures of good doggos! It's a million kittens in buckets!

It's a rough old world out there, and if the schtick of a few users here is to smooth it out with 234132+ pictures of otters who just can't even, I'm in favour.

They're good posts, Bront.
posted by prismatic7 at 8:05 PM on August 7 [48 favorites]


234132+ pictures of otters who just can't even

I keep refreshing the front page but I don't see this. Please repost ASAP.
posted by Room 641-A at 8:15 PM on August 7 [44 favorites]


I demand more rigor in posts of 110-plus cats who cannot even. Many of those cats clearly can even.
posted by Etrigan at 8:15 PM on August 7 [19 favorites]


IDC if BoredPanda is a lazy link. Life is fucking hard right now. Anyone who takes the time to share a BoredPanda link with some cute cats or whatever in it and posts it on the Blue where I can see it = my hero. They are absolutely good posts, Bront.
posted by Hermione Granger at 8:19 PM on August 7 [34 favorites]


An otters resting place is called a couch, while otter poop is called spraint. That can have a wide variety of smells, including mown grass, tea or (less surprisingly) fish. Baby otters can be called kittens. People who edit Wikipedia argue a lot about otters.
posted by Wordshore at 8:56 PM on August 7 [15 favorites]


There are better choices of aggregator links and worse choices. I think people here are generally pretty good with sticking to places that don't seem to be skeevy. I don't mind aggregator links especially fun ones because I will look at them for a while and it will bring me some happy.

I need more happy in my life right now.
posted by hippybear at 9:26 PM on August 7 [4 favorites]


You didn't even mention Otter Pops!
posted by hippybear at 9:27 PM on August 7 [3 favorites]


There's a growing perception that one use of Metafilter is something akin to therapy or self-care, and people think these links "help them cope" or whatever, so I'm sure they're fine.

I don't like them and think they're lazy links to somewhat sketchy aggregators, but I don't begrudge them, really, and if they help some folks, then hey, cool.
posted by Joseph Gurl at 9:37 PM on August 7 [8 favorites]


A few times I noticed aggregation sites and thought, "ok great I've found a new place for interesting stuff" only to have forgotten their names. I'm sure I'll see them again here...
posted by sammyo at 9:48 PM on August 7


From that wikipedia talk page:

"Otters are curious creatures and in zoos, often build ladders out of their enclosures at night to explore the zoo. They then climb back into the enclosure and hide the remnants of the ladder. They know they will be fed and looked after in the enclosure but they have an undying curiosity about the rest of the zoo."
posted by Wordshore at 9:48 PM on August 7 [33 favorites]


There's a growing perception that one use of Metafilter is something akin to therapy or self-care, and people think these links "help them cope" or whatever, so I'm sure they're fine.

Good lord, they're not "coping threads." They're doggos and kittens. Most people like dogs and cats. Some people find them comforting. Jeez.
posted by Room 641-A at 10:09 PM on August 7 [25 favorites]


Good lord I love dogs and cats. I have a cat myself. Jeez.
posted by Joseph Gurl at 10:14 PM on August 7 [1 favorite]


The solution to this problem is to post links to things that aren’t boredpanda.
posted by Going To Maine at 10:24 PM on August 7 [7 favorites]


If there are going to be an endless sea of Outrage of the Days, I think we can spare a moment or two for amalgamations of cute animal pictures.
posted by Ghostride The Whip at 10:37 PM on August 7 [4 favorites]


From the Wikipedia page:
Louie-Bloo Raspberry
Poncho Punch (replaced Rip Van Lemon)
Rip Van Lemon (discontinued in the late 1970s)
Sir Isaac Lime
Strawberry Short Kook
Alexander the Grape
Little Orphan Orange
posted by hippybear at 10:49 PM on August 7 [3 favorites]


There's a growing perception that one use of Metafilter is something akin to therapy or self-care, and people think these links "help them cope" or whatever

This question isn't about if it's okay for anyone to enjoy the odd five minutes free of misery, fear, hate, and disgust, or your opinion about fellow members, it's about sourcing of posts.

Regarding aggregation, I have more problems with sites that yank an entire piece from elsewhere and repost (and imgur posts, for one, are often terrible offenders in this respect) than something like bored panda's usual MO with the cute pics from various places (no one image would be a good post, and the collection is not just grabbed wholesale from a post or article on another site), especially with the added user content. But let's say a site just posts a bunch of pics from Site X, it's almost always going to be better to link directly to Site X. Sometimes it's not obvious that this is what is happening, so it's good to keep in mind and check when possible.
posted by taz (staff) at 11:33 PM on August 7 [24 favorites]


Otters are played out, jerboas is where its at!
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 12:02 AM on August 8 [4 favorites]


Otters are played out

(╯︵╰,)
posted by gusottertrout at 2:11 AM on August 8 [19 favorites]


Otters are never played out. Have you seen otters play?
posted by spitbull at 3:48 AM on August 8 [15 favorites]


You are now subscribed to Otter Facts!
posted by carter at 4:17 AM on August 8 [26 favorites]


Metafilter: 234132+ pictures of otters who just can't even
posted by zarq at 4:33 AM on August 8 [7 favorites]


You didn't even mention Otter Pops!

My wife refuses to believe that Otter Pops exist. Every time I mention them, she says, that's not a thing, nobody calls them that.

To be fair, we mostly have Fla-Vor-Ice around here. But Otter Pops is a much better name.
posted by uncleozzy at 5:10 AM on August 8 [5 favorites]


Also from the otter wikipedia link:

I don't like it -- I think the picture should be of two otter holding hands... a still from the youtube video maybe. Youtube search otter holding hands, and you'll see -- your heart will melt. 169.226.100.27 21:04, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
posted by Room 641-A at 5:27 AM on August 8 [2 favorites]


Wow, some users are apparently repeatedly going to Bored Panda and making Metafilter posts out of that kind of content, over and over... can you please not? Thanks
posted by floam at 6:10 AM on August 8


My wife refuses to believe that Otter Pops exist. Every time I mention them, she says, that's not a thing, nobody calls them that.

I mean, she can refuse to believe it all she wants, but Otter Pops exist.
posted by cooker girl at 6:11 AM on August 8 [1 favorite]


Oh I know. I showed her the website and everything. She's an Otter Pop denier.
posted by uncleozzy at 6:14 AM on August 8 [11 favorites]


Wow, some users are apparently repeatedly going to Bored Panda and making Metafilter posts out of that kind of content, over and over... can you please not? Thanks

This reflects my sentiment. I'd love to see slightly fewer Endless Outrage posts and slightly fewer cuties, aggregated posts even though i think they're both fine in moderation. I feel a similar way about Atlas Obscura. They have great content, but it's very frequently HuffPo'ed from one or two other sources. I try, when I can, to link to those other sources instead.
posted by jessamyn (retired) at 6:25 AM on August 8 [22 favorites]


I'd love to see slightly fewer Endless Outrage posts...

Personally (I'm just one MeFiFi and an outlier in many respects here) would like to see 80%+ less Endless Outrage posts. More than a few times I've come to MetaFilter with some curiosity or enthusiasm, started to read the main page, and seen the first three or four posts as being Outrage - at which point with enthusiasm quickly draining away I switch off the computer and go out for a walk.

Am okay with the cute posts, though I rarely visit sites that are "click through to the next picture" as it feels a bit like work, clicking for every new picture. A nice gallery index where all are available for selection in one go is preferred.
posted by Wordshore at 6:38 AM on August 8 [11 favorites]


Wow, some users are apparently repeatedly going to Bored Panda and making Metafilter posts out of that kind of content, over and over.

It looks like people are posting once or twice a month; most people who make posts have a few regular go-to sites. I made 23 posts in July and three (two animals, one food) were Bored Panda. I'm okay with the signal-to-BoredPanda ratio here. Honestly, this seems like one of the easiest kinds of posts to just skip since you don't even have to click through.
posted by Room 641-A at 6:54 AM on August 8 [9 favorites]


The last Bored Panda link I circulated with my friend-group largely consisted of images that were scraped from one artist's Instagram feed.

In these cases, I'd almost always prefer to link to the feed directly, except that this person evidently used their Instagram account for both personal stuff and art stuff. The Bored Panda article ended up being the preferable link to share, because it aggregated all of the art (and filtered out the other 80% of brunch photos, etc).

I broadly agree that it's preferable to link to original sources, but just wanted to drop a reminder that those aren't always available, and I'll gladly make a few sacrifices in the name of getting happier content on the Blue.
posted by schmod at 7:22 AM on August 8 [2 favorites]


I'm okay with the signal-to-BoredPanda ratio here.

I don't know about your other posts but I counted like 12 boredpanda FPPs. Isn't that kind of a lot, in absolute terms?
posted by floam at 7:35 AM on August 8 [1 favorite]


I don't know about your other posts

Well, it's in my profile. I've made 364 posts here, so in absolute terms I'd say no, 12 is not a lot.

Like I said, I'm happy to stop if that's the consensus. But if you come for Johhny Wallflower I will fight you.
posted by Room 641-A at 7:45 AM on August 8 [27 favorites]


As long as BoredPanda is citing their sources, which as far as I can tell they are, these types of posts are fine with me. I don't normally click on them, but it's nice for the blue to have posts of the light and fluffy variety. And Johnny Wallflower in particular has a nice little weekly tradition going.
posted by lalex at 7:54 AM on August 8 [10 favorites]


Like I said, I'm happy to stop if that's the consensus.

Please don't. I like those posts.
posted by zarq at 8:03 AM on August 8 [16 favorites]


> I don't know about your other posts but I counted like 12 boredpanda FPPs. Isn't that kind of a lot, in absolute terms?

You've made your point and are getting a little weird about it.... can you please not? Thanks

Also, the more cat/dog/otter posts the better as far as I'm concerned. Anyone who comes for Room 641-A or Johnny Wallflower will have to go through me first.
posted by languagehat at 8:04 AM on August 8 [28 favorites]


I'd love to see slightly fewer Endless Outrage posts...

My life is 100% better now that I am skipping past the outrage du jour (and ensuing hot takes) on Facebook, Twitter, and Metafilter. There are so many Look at This Asshole posts/tweets (cf Google dude) and they don't change anything except your blood pressure. I don't want mefi to turn into Cute Overload either, but if I had to pick, that would do more for my sanity.
posted by AFABulous at 8:14 AM on August 8 [13 favorites]


To clarify - sometimes attention needs to be brought to an issue, e.g. sexism in tech - but at least on twitter, it turns into a circle jerk in which everyone's posting the same thoughts (today it's some flavor of "men, do better" - as if misogynists care). Metafilter is better at nuanced discussion but it's still 90% This Person Is Bad and Wrong* and I don't know what the point is of hundreds of comments echoing that when surely he's not reading it (and I'm sure he doesn't care).

Yes, I can skip the posts. I already said I'm doing that. Metafilter becomes less useful as a whole if I'm skipping lots of posts, though.

* Don't worry, I also think Google dude is Bad and Wrong
posted by AFABulous at 8:26 AM on August 8 [5 favorites]




But if you come for Johhny Wallflower I will fight you.

Anyone who comes for Room 641-A or Johnny Wallflower will have to go through me first.

::Stands beside Room 641-A and languagehat, cracks knuckles menacingly, spits on the ground.::
posted by briank at 8:45 AM on August 8 [3 favorites]


::Stands beside Room 641-A and languagehat, cracks knuckles menacingly, spits on the ground.::

Well this is no time to try to be a hero, I don't even have health insurance. I'll retreat.

Silenced again
posted by floam at 8:48 AM on August 8 [6 favorites]


My life is 100% better now that I am skipping past the outrage du jour (and ensuing hot takes) on Facebook, Twitter, and Metafilter. There are so many Look at This Asshole posts/tweets (cf Google dude) and they don't change anything except your blood pressure. I don't want mefi to turn into Cute Overload either, but if I had to pick, that would do more for my sanity.

When I looked in on the politics thread this morning, it was like the entire thread had moved past the other stages of grief and had settled into bleak despair. They were talking about civil and global wars and predicting an upcoming worldwide financial collapse. I closed the window and probably won't go back until they're off the subject.

I disagree that the post about the Google Dude was only "Look at this asshole." That seems needlessly reductive. (I posted it, so I'm obviously biased, but) Personally, I think it's okay to have posts about the state of the world, and the negative and hopefully positive effects various events are having on it. On us. We learn to help and support one another by talking about things that affect us, and sometimes, by coming together in solidarity. YMMV, of course.

Sometimes, what one person avoids for their good mental health can help someone else's.
posted by zarq at 8:59 AM on August 8 [6 favorites]


As one of the prime offenders here, I do use the least-skeevy source and do use the original where possible. For example, I don't post Sad And Useless links unless they acknowledge the source; I track down the original or I skip it. Pleated Jeans, on the other hand, is often cleaner than the (always-cited) source. Atlas Obscura links are sometimes part of a post, but I try to add related links, too.

Regarding ads: I guess I assume that everyone here uses an ad blocker like I do, so that doesn't factor into my choices, sorry.

Also, if you're tired of my squeefull posts, just ignore me until October.
posted by Johnny Wallflower at 9:13 AM on August 8 [20 favorites]


zarq: "I closed the window and probably won't go back until they're off the subject. "

I just put up a bunch of info on Washington state special elections, come on back!
posted by Chrysostom at 9:35 AM on August 8 [4 favorites]


Didn't we have this conversation really, really recently? Or am I conflating the two discussions?
posted by cooker girl at 9:40 AM on August 8 [1 favorite]


Also, if you're tired of my squeefull posts, just ignore me until October.

Until this moment, I didn't realize you were making so many wonderful posts full of squee so consistently. Thank you!!

Except for this. Everything else, I'll take. :)
posted by zarq at 9:56 AM on August 8 [2 favorites]


Bored Panda does decent listicles, and they put 5 or 6 items on a page, far from the worst offenders. Much of the time, my response is Huh, meh and move on. Not likely to have great discussion, but not actually a problem.

I say this pretty often. Make a great post. 1 link, or 6, interesting links. Content I maybe wouldn't have stumbled across, or a topic that generates lively discussion. There are occasionally terrific posts with great content that don't really generate discussion, and I'll try to drop a Thanks for posting in there, because those folks should be encouraged. There's a lot of cool stuff I wouldn't have discovered without MeFi. And there are SLNYT (and other) posts that generate discussion that I really want to participate in.

One of my favorite professors used to ask Is it worth saying?, Has it been said before?, Is it said well? about books and short stories. Please make posts that meet this criteria and reward the posters with thoughtful, funny, pithy, excellent comments, and favorite the post and the comment, and generally put effort in to making MeFi fantastic. That's what we're here for, that's what generates page views, ad revenue, connections, etc.
posted by theora55 at 9:59 AM on August 8 [3 favorites]


Wordshore: Otters are curious creatures and in zoos, often build ladders out of their enclosures at night to explore the zoo

Citation needed, please! Or better yet, videos!

Oh, here's a citation ("sometimes vandals can be funny. Just deleted this")

:(
posted by filthy light thief at 10:04 AM on August 8 [3 favorites]


hashtag i want to believe
posted by Wordshore at 10:24 AM on August 8 [10 favorites]


I agree with the poster of this thread. Let's please not post this kind of link-aggregated regurgitation to Metafilter. It's definitely not the best of the Web and bothered me when I saw it initially.
posted by killdevil at 10:44 AM on August 8 [2 favorites]


Hasn't it always been the case that for any given post, only some fraction of Mefi readers will like it? How is this different? I just skip over the posts that don't interest me (which is most of them). That doesn't mean I want them gone from the site.
posted by primethyme at 10:48 AM on August 8 [6 favorites]


best of the Web

Officially deprecated 2009 or earlier.
posted by Chrysostom at 10:52 AM on August 8




Regarding "best of the web," isn't that highly subjective to the point that it's not good as moderator-side filtering mechanism so much as it is a poster-applied criteria? In other words, the mods aren't supposed to review every post and ask themselves "is this really the Best of the Web?" but posters are supposed to think "is this something I really want to share on MetaFilter as a sufficiently interesting and/or amusing bit of the internet?"

And I'll co-sign onto the appreciation of cute, fun things in the mix of interesting, unique, and generally depressing. MetaFilter isn't turning into Fark or UpWorthy or whatnot because of a few BoredPanda cute/ silly/ fun animal aggregation posts. For sake of comparison, there were 20 posts on July 30 alone, so 20 BoredPanda posts in 3 months doesn't seem too much. Yes, it's a lot of one site, but we have a lot of posts from major news networks, some "MetaFilter aligned" sites (for instance, Atlas Obsura and The Nib are often linked on the front page), and a few other categories.

And I'll co-sign the sentiment "if you don't like a post, try the next one. Or take an internet break."
posted by filthy light thief at 11:14 AM on August 8 [5 favorites]


I feel we should treat MeFites at least as well as Trump's aides treat him.
posted by Johnny Wallflower at 1:02 PM on August 8 [2 favorites]


If those pandas are so bored, then why don't they get a job!
posted by octobersurprise at 1:48 PM on August 8 [2 favorites]


I feel we should treat MeFites at least as well as Trump's aides treat him.

Except 1) you're comparing us to Trump, and 2) once you start sending flattering photos to semi-strangers, you're getting into creeper territory.


If those pandas are so bored, then why don't they get a job!

What if ... their job is being bored? High marks across the board!
posted by filthy light thief at 1:49 PM on August 8 [1 favorite]


No, no - they are pandas that have had holes drilled through them.
posted by Chrysostom at 1:52 PM on August 8 [6 favorites]


Well, I'd like to see fewer of these. It seems to me that long ago, when Metafilter was cool, these kind of posts were frowned upon. They are ad-heavy and not so difficult to find for those who are inclined. They're right there at the bottom of your morning news feed. Me...it turns out I could believe what my favorite child TV stars look like today.



who am I kidding? Metfilter was never cool.
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 2:41 PM on August 8 [4 favorites]


I still check the front page a couple of times a day, but pretty much the only FPPs I open now are these kinds of posts because everything else makes me want to cry and/or commit fire-based murder. It would never occur to me to visit bored panda or wherever but if some lovely MeFite sends me there then I will gladly spend 20 minutes looking at hamsters having tea parties and dogs wearing Halloween costumes before going about my day. Johnny Wallflower basically single-handedly stopped me abandoning MF entirely before the politics hiding widget came along and the whole site was wall-to-wall Butt-Trumpet* posts. So I'm happy for them to remain a feature here.

*My 8 year old niece referred to him as "Donald Dump" the other day which was actually new to me even though it seems so obvious and I was so proud of her I nearly hugged her to death. It hasn't anything to do with this thread but there you go.
posted by billiebee at 4:56 PM on August 8 [20 favorites]


Regarding ads: I guess I assume that everyone here uses an ad blocker like I do, so that doesn't factor into my choices, sorry.

It's complicated at best to run an ad blocker on a lot of mobile platforms. There have definitely been many mefi threads where none of the links were accessible because they would redirect me to an ad page or open the Play store or whatever immediately upon loading the page.
posted by Dysk at 4:02 AM on August 9


Our kids love these posts and because of them they started reading the more serious stuff. They use my account but don't post.

One day my son says "The fucking cops shot that guy 14 times. That is so wrong." The girls read the feminist threads and 13 explains stuff to 9 and her take is pretty spot on and boy is interested too cause he thinks women and minorities are people.

They are the future of MF.
posted by Mr. Yuck at 5:55 AM on August 9 [32 favorites]


It seems to me that long ago, when Metafilter was cool, these kind of posts were frowned upon

Yes, and we all used to wear onions tied to our belts then, too.

Aggregator sites suck, no argument. But the Internet as a whole sucks a lot more now than it did when we were young and pretty. Sometimes you have to make do with what you have.

At different times over the last 10,000 years that MetaFilter has existed, we have frowned upon The New York Times ("It's an obvious link and EVERYBODY has already seen it"), YouTube ("Single-Link YouTube posts SUCK!!"), The Onion ("Really? LAME!"), The Toast ("Too much Mallory Ortberg!"), and many other sites that didn't pass the sniff-test-du-jour.

Stop frowning, ignore the kitties and puppies if you don't like them, embrace the Schmoopy Age of MetaFilter (this took me a long time to reconcile with, but I am all for SchmoopFi now), and get on with it.
posted by briank at 6:36 AM on August 9 [13 favorites]


SchmoopFilter: Get on with it.
posted by prismatic7 at 7:06 AM on August 9 [2 favorites]


Stop frowning, ignore the kitties and puppies if you don't like them... and get on with it.


This. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person who has OD-ed on both cute animals and outrage, from time to time, often in an alternating pattern. As long as the nature of the post is clear above the fold, I have no objections to anything anybody offers up. We can all skip over any post we don't want to engage with, including link-filled "regurgitations," at any time.

I do agree with the idea of linking to originals, or at least aggregators that properly credit and link to their sources whenever possible, though.
posted by rpfields at 7:06 AM on August 9 [1 favorite]


If a sight's unusable on mobile, maybe flag it or drop the mods a line or comment as such? I'm not sure which are the worst offenders in that regard.
posted by dismas at 7:11 AM on August 9 [2 favorites]


Just been reading about the official symbols some US states have, such as a state bird, a state sandwich, a state rock(!) and so on. Could MetaFilter have an official animal or mascot, and if so could it be an otter?
posted by Wordshore at 7:25 AM on August 9 [3 favorites]


Just been reading about the official symbols some US states have, such as a state bird, a state sandwich, a state rock(!) and so on. Could MetaFilter have an official animal or mascot, and if so could it be an otter?

It's a cat. In a scanner.

Alternatively, if you like rabbits with random crap on their heads…
posted by zamboni at 7:34 AM on August 9 [2 favorites]


Wow, "sight." Nice going, me.
posted by dismas at 7:44 AM on August 9 [2 favorites]


It's a cat. In a scanner.

Is there room to compromise on this?
posted by Wordshore at 7:45 AM on August 9 [4 favorites]


I just want to say that Johnny Wallflower is a very nice person who gave me a card with a beautiful octopus on it and it's hanging on my fridge and he said very complimentary things about my baby back when she still behaved herself on occasion. Also I like to see the puppies.
posted by Mrs. Pterodactyl at 7:54 AM on August 9 [17 favorites]


MetaFilter: I like to see the puppies
posted by billiebee at 9:08 AM on August 9 [5 favorites]


Our kids love these posts and because of them they started reading the more serious stuff. They use my account but don't post.

... for now.

Also, TIL that MetaFilter schmoopy is the gateway into harder discussions. This makes me quite happy.
posted by filthy light thief at 9:29 AM on August 9 [3 favorites]


Dysk: "Regarding ads: I guess I assume that everyone here uses an ad blocker like I do, so that doesn't factor into my choices, sorry.

It's complicated at best to run an ad blocker on a lot of mobile platforms. There have definitely been many mefi threads where none of the links were accessible because they would redirect me to an ad page or open the Play store or whatever immediately upon loading the page.
"

Lots of sites are tweaked or completely different for mobile users and desktops users. If you only surf desktop it's pretty much impossible to tell what the mobile site is going to look like. I mean I guess I could run an android emulator on my desktop and then load firefox on that then preview my posts but that seems like a lot of work to expect for posting here
posted by Mitheral at 9:53 AM on August 9


Yeah, I'm not expecting anyone to fix it, just pointing out that it's A Thing with the Internet these days, and a lot of platforms don't allow you to just adblock your way out of the problem easily.
posted by Dysk at 10:21 AM on August 9 [1 favorite]


I almost always post with iOS Safari, using 1Blocker for ads. So yeah, if a site is wonky on other platforms feel free to drop a note or flag.
posted by Johnny Wallflower at 11:15 AM on August 9 [1 favorite]


I feel like both modern iOS and Android systems support first class content blockers in their WebKit-based browsers. What platform can't do this?
posted by floam at 1:25 PM on August 9


It seems to me that long ago, when Metafilter was cool, these kind of posts were frowned upon. They are ad-heavy and not so difficult to find for those who are inclined.

So, my feelings are complicated. Because I'm right there with you, and also have been making an effort to get past it at the same time.

Discussing this in passing with the team the other day (it was my mid-week weekend, didn't want to dig in at the time) I mentioned that I personally still have a reasonably strong allergy in principle to especially the more aggressively monetized aggregator sites, where they're really transparently just in the scooping-up-content-to-slather-with-ads-on-a-schedule biz rather than chasing down delight on the web for its own sake and on its own terms. The weirder, wilder, blogging-just-to-blog nature of the early 2000s has withered hugely in the last decade as the web's changed shape, and I think that in particular is a bummer both as a general reality of the web and for the effect it has on what's out there to comprise a post on MeFi.

But there were eh, questionable-motivation aggregators back then too, and generally speaking it feels like some of the stuff like Bored Panda has at least converged toward a more reasonable middle-ground compromise compared to the worst of those—I don't worry about super sketchy malware stuff showing up in a post so much these days, routine clear attribution seems to be pretty common among the more well-established aggregators, etc. They're still not chasing the dream of the web I hold in my heart, and I'm a big proponent of (as folks have already discussed above) chasing down the original material instead when it is workable. But a couple folks who like to make this sort of post have already acknowledged in here that they think about that too; it may just not always work out. I've had that problem myself a couple times, where the non-middleman sourcing for a cool artist or work is...actually just shit. Actually just very poor web content, and someone's roundup and writeup of it is the more readable place to land.

So I've been getting past my allergy and e.g. letting Bored Panda links stand in general, because there's What Josh Personally Prefers and then there's as a pretty separate question What's Good For The Mix Of The Front Page. And I care more about the latter than the former; I can express my preferences in the posts I want to make, but I'm resisting my natural years-baked-in inclination to kill some aggregator stuff because, look: I'd rather people make, and people enjoy, posts about stuff on the front page than to have the front page be self-satisfiedly quiet in pursuit of a static "best of the web" standard in a changing webscape.

I like that people like posts about fun or cute or nice things. I like that that's part of the mix. I find that valuable enough to say, eh, Bored Panda's not my model of an ideal web but they're collecting some good doggo pics and for fuck's sake bring on the pics of good doggos if that's working for folks.
posted by cortex (staff) at 1:54 PM on August 9 [12 favorites]


So, I kind of took like a 1.5 year break from most of the web, culminating when I got married this last January. And I just turned 30. What the fuck is a Doggo? This is a thing apparently?

I know about doggies and dogs - Who started these doggos and why?
posted by floam at 2:00 PM on August 9 [2 favorites]


Is it a trump thing?
posted by floam at 2:04 PM on August 9


Just wait until you find out about puppers, float.
posted by AFABulous at 2:06 PM on August 9 [8 favorites]


It is precisely the opposite of a Trump thing, which is why I think people like it. A doggo is just a dog. Just a good boy. Just a pup, a pupper. They're good dogs, flerm.
posted by cortex (staff) at 2:06 PM on August 9 [9 favorites]


They're good dogs floam.
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 2:07 PM on August 9 [1 favorite]


You did that wrong, Home.
posted by AFABulous at 2:09 PM on August 9


I got that AFAbiousa.
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 2:29 PM on August 9


;)
posted by Homo neanderthalensis at 2:30 PM on August 9


So, these aggregation sites aren't "Best of the Web", and also that's no longer a requirement here.

MetaFilter could just allow <img> tags below the fold. Instead of crappy links to BoredPanda et al, people could just post their own series of very cute photos with proper attribution given here on MetaFilter, without the shame.
posted by floam at 2:45 PM on August 9 [2 favorites]


Why do you hate the mods, floam?
posted by AFABulous at 4:12 PM on August 9 [12 favorites]


Just imagine the Trumpster threads with the image tag.
posted by Rumple at 4:52 PM on August 9


Instead of crappy links to BoredPanda et al, people could just post their own series of very cute photos with proper attribution given here on MetaFilter, without the shame

You do realize that Bored Panda is nearly all crowdsourced? That why 10+ Doggos turns into 200+. Sometimes they start a list, but it's mostly all original content, like "I'm an artist and I draw butterflies on matchsticks."
posted by Room 641-A at 5:35 PM on August 9 [1 favorite]


Just imagine the Trumpster threads with the image tag.

Goatse all the way down.
posted by ActingTheGoat at 6:02 PM on August 9 [4 favorites]


I feel like both modern iOS and Android systems support first class content blockers in their WebKit-based browsers. What platform can't do this?

You've half answered your own question.
posted by Dysk at 6:22 PM on August 9 [1 favorite]


Just chiming in to say that I really enjoy the cute animal posts. They always brighten my day, and it's nice to have them in the mix on the front page. Obviously if every other post were a cute animal FPP that would be a problem, but we're very, very far from that.

people could just post their own series of very cute photos with proper attribution given here on MetaFilter, without the shame.

Well, one of the fun things about cute animal posts is that sometimes it leads into mefites linking to their own adorable animal pictures, so it's the best of both worlds. No tags required.
posted by litera scripta manet at 9:03 PM on August 9 [5 favorites]


Room 641-A: "You do realize that Bored Panda is nearly all crowdsourced? That why 10+ Doggos turns into 200+"

I did not know that. Explains the shaky quality of the posts from there.
posted by Mitheral at 11:19 PM on August 9 [2 favorites]


Metafilter: Explains the shaky quality of the posts from there.
posted by Joseph Gurl at 11:40 PM on August 9 [4 favorites]


I greatly dislike those posts.
That's why I don't click on them. Turns out not doing a thing takes literally no effort.

Only winning move is not to play etc.
posted by French Fry at 1:20 PM on August 10 [7 favorites]


As one who doesn't normally go to Bored Panda or Atlas, I appreciate an occasional link to a catse or doggo post.

And Johnny Wallflower rocks, so get over it.
posted by BlueHorse at 4:16 PM on August 10


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posted by Nanukthedog at 4:26 PM on August 10 [9 favorites]


I appreciate an occasional link to a catse or doggo post

…catse?

No. Please no.

Kitteh. Or kitty. Or wuzza-wuzza-kitten. Or…

Not "catse".

I've already seen entirely too much cat ass. Don't need to go there.…
posted by Lexica at 5:32 PM on August 10 [4 favorites]


The cats will know when you've seen too much cat ass. Until then, they will continue to share and monitor your status.
posted by hippybear at 8:58 PM on August 10 [4 favorites]


they are pandas that have had holes drilled through them.

This is just to say ...

...that the machinist in me is deeply agitated that you've conflated boring with drilling. They're not the same thing! Drills wander! What about reaming to fit? Aaaaaagh!
posted by aramaic at 9:17 PM on August 10 [4 favorites]


DO NOT REAM THE PANDAS. I REPEAT, DO NOT REAM THE PANDAS.
otters are fair game
posted by Joseph Gurl at 9:28 PM on August 10 [2 favorites]


BORING BORING
posted by oneswellfoop at 9:34 PM on August 10 [1 favorite]


What if I--ahem--I mean a person I'm unaffiliated with rips all the images out of a BoredPanda collection, posts them to Imgur, then links to that Imgur album in a FPP? Asking for an unaffiliated friend.
posted by Mr.Encyclopedia at 7:40 AM on August 12


That's basically self-linking, don't do that.
posted by jessamyn (retired) at 7:50 AM on August 12 [3 favorites]


> What if I--ahem--I mean a person I'm unaffiliated with rips all the images out of a BoredPanda collection, posts them to Imgur, then links to that Imgur album in a FPP?

That doesn't fix the problem of when a site swipes all the content from another site without adding anything original.
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:24 AM on August 14 [1 favorite]


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