Advice on re-posting MeFi to blog? November 4, 2003 3:34 PM Subscribe
Advice on re-posting MeFi to blog?
I often repost mefi stuff on my blog, often meaning Several times a week, sometimes multiple times a Day. I have an html template I use but I do keep changing the format a little. I'd be glad for some advice on how to do it right, or acceptably. You can check what I mean at http://radio.weblogs.com/0123486/ or for short http://rootcellar.info
I'll try to be checking back here, but there is the email link on the page.
muuooooffffff,
taterhead
I often repost mefi stuff on my blog, often meaning Several times a week, sometimes multiple times a Day. I have an html template I use but I do keep changing the format a little. I'd be glad for some advice on how to do it right, or acceptably. You can check what I mean at http://radio.weblogs.com/0123486/ or for short http://rootcellar.info
I'll try to be checking back here, but there is the email link on the page.
muuooooffffff,
taterhead
Ethical: No.
Legal: Probably.
Pointless: Yes.
Self-linking your blog on the Metatalk front page: priceless.
muuoooofffff?
posted by PrinceValium at 3:54 PM on November 4, 2003
Legal: Probably.
Pointless: Yes.
Self-linking your blog on the Metatalk front page: priceless.
muuoooofffff?
posted by PrinceValium at 3:54 PM on November 4, 2003
Even going so far as to inform us that there's notihng there worth looking at because it's pretty much all stuff we've seen already.
Classic.
But still terrible..
posted by Space Coyote at 4:07 PM on November 4, 2003
Classic.
But still terrible..
posted by Space Coyote at 4:07 PM on November 4, 2003
quonsar: muuooofffff!
posted by PrinceValium at 4:14 PM on November 4, 2003
posted by PrinceValium at 4:14 PM on November 4, 2003
"Advice on how to do it right?"
Easy. Just don't.
By all means steal the link (a via: is always nice but certainly not required) but posting front page stuff verbatim? Not cool at all.
Coming here to announce with a self link (that isn't even a link) that your ripping off MeFi content is just nuts. Step away from the crack pipe.
posted by cedar at 4:15 PM on November 4, 2003
Easy. Just don't.
By all means steal the link (a via: is always nice but certainly not required) but posting front page stuff verbatim? Not cool at all.
Coming here to announce with a self link (that isn't even a link) that your ripping off MeFi content is just nuts. Step away from the crack pipe.
posted by cedar at 4:15 PM on November 4, 2003
"© 1999-2003 The MetaFilter Network
All posts are © their original authors."
Geez. At least write the post in your own words.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 4:37 PM on November 4, 2003
All posts are © their original authors."
Geez. At least write the post in your own words.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 4:37 PM on November 4, 2003
Matt, how about coding an option to copyright posts under the Creative Commons license?
And a pony.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 4:39 PM on November 4, 2003
And a pony.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 4:39 PM on November 4, 2003
Track back???? Is this what you want to do???? Also, you self linked on this thread, use your profile page, please & thanks. Do I get a dough-nut now, for being mefi-cop?
posted by thomcatspike at 4:51 PM on November 4, 2003
posted by thomcatspike at 4:51 PM on November 4, 2003
putzes. nobody owns links. what he should be asking himself is, what's the point? how does his blog distinguish itself from mefi? why does it exist?
posted by quonsar at 4:55 PM on November 4, 2003
posted by quonsar at 4:55 PM on November 4, 2003
That's not donut glaze.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 5:48 PM on November 4, 2003
posted by mr_crash_davis at 5:48 PM on November 4, 2003
Grand Whazoo - lifting MeFi material is just not a good idea. You can used brief, properly attributed quotes, but that's about it. Sure, you might get away with doing more, it's not like any of us will sue, but surely it's just as easy and rewarding to do the ethical thing.
Anyone ever find themselves mentioned by MeFi user name on someone else's blog? I have a few times - it's a weird feeling. Wow, someone read what I wrote.
posted by orange swan at 9:21 PM on November 4, 2003
Anyone ever find themselves mentioned by MeFi user name on someone else's blog? I have a few times - it's a weird feeling. Wow, someone read what I wrote.
posted by orange swan at 9:21 PM on November 4, 2003
People can quote an entire post, I really don't care much about it.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 9:24 PM on November 4, 2003
posted by mathowie (staff) at 9:24 PM on November 4, 2003
What's really annoying about the rootcellar.info address is that any link you click on opens in your frame-set, and your frame-set just doesn't go away. I'd already clicked through several sites before I realized it still said rootcellar.info in the address bar.
And as to the original question, if a link seems interesting enough to you to post on your own blog, wouldn't it be more interesting for your visitors if you had something original to say about it rather than just copying Mefi posts word for word? Just seems a little redundant and non-creative.
posted by Orb at 2:07 AM on November 5, 2003
And as to the original question, if a link seems interesting enough to you to post on your own blog, wouldn't it be more interesting for your visitors if you had something original to say about it rather than just copying Mefi posts word for word? Just seems a little redundant and non-creative.
posted by Orb at 2:07 AM on November 5, 2003
PrinceValium: >Self-linking your blog on the Metatalk front page: priceless.
How was anybody supposed to see what I meant, otherwise?
Space Coyote: >Even going so far as to inform us that there's notihng there worth looking at because it's pretty much all stuff we've seen already.
From 10/21 through 11/4, about 2 weeks, I posted from not only MeFi but from Boing, Stare, New World Disorder, Salon, die puny humans, Rense, emails, NYT, Slashdot, Daniel Patrick Welch, spaceweather.com, AlterNet, Keepers of Lists, The Shifted Librarian, Geisha Asobi, Presurfer, Planet Waves Weekly, Ananova, Daring Fireball, and a few just out of my old head. I guess if you'd looked you would have seen that.
cedar: >By all means steal the link (a via: is always nice but certainly not required) but posting front page stuff verbatim? Not cool at all.
>Coming here to announce with a self link (that isn't even a link) that your ripping off MeFi content is just nuts. Step away from the crack pipe.
Why is that? Plenty of blogs lift whole sets of paragraphs from sites all over the web. Why should MeFi be exempt? And see above.
monju_bosatsu: >"© 1999-2003 The MetaFilter Network
All posts are © their original authors."
Geez. At least write the post in your own words.
I always post the Mefi permalink and the front page link. I see the © symbol. How many words would I need to change to avoid infringement?
And then it would be better than the original? And more ethical?
thomcatspike: >Track back???? Is this what you want to do???? Also, you self linked on this thread, use your profile page, please & thanks.
I'm on Radio. They recently set up Trackback and I tried it out but it seems broken. I never thought of using my profile, in fact haven't even thought of it at all since first signing on. I just found it under Customize and filled in some junk including my URL. Thanks! I'll just rely on it in the future.
quonsar: >what he should be asking himself is, what's the point? how does his blog distinguish itself from mefi? why does it exist?
I don't just copy Mefi, see above. It exists as a creative outlet for me, where I've surfed my favorite sites, pick the info/posts I like, format text the way I want, add graphics (often from associative imagination - Google image search - rather than direct), and often have a quip or comment of my own. Do librarians need to push their own writings at us, or can we just enjoy what they collect, preserve and lend?
orange swan: >lifting MeFi material is just not a good idea. You can used brief, properly attributed quotes, but that's about it. Sure, you might get away with doing more, it's not like any of us will sue, but surely it's just as easy and rewarding to do the ethical thing.
I posted here out of concern to do the right thing. If I wanted to drive traffic I could have posted to MetaFILTER.
>What's really annoying about the rootcellar.info address is that any link you click on opens in your frame-set, and your frame-set just doesn't go away. I'd already clicked through several sites before I realized it still said rootcellar.info in the address bar.
I didn't realize that was happening, and yes, I agree, and it's even worse than annoying. Fixed now.
mathowie: >People can quote an entire post, I really don't care much about it.
Thank you. If folks don't want something as simple as a post to be copied, with the Mefi permalink and the front page link, maybe they shouldn't be posting. To quote quonsar, "putzes. nobody owns links."
Orb: >if a link seems interesting enough to you to post on your own blog, wouldn't it be more interesting for your visitors if you had something original to say about it rather than just copying Mefi posts word for word? Just seems a little redundant and non-creative.
See above. I love MetaFilter and the many posters here. I figure my own web log is original in its own way. YMMV.
posted by Grand Wahzoo at 7:42 AM on November 5, 2003
How was anybody supposed to see what I meant, otherwise?
Space Coyote: >Even going so far as to inform us that there's notihng there worth looking at because it's pretty much all stuff we've seen already.
From 10/21 through 11/4, about 2 weeks, I posted from not only MeFi but from Boing, Stare, New World Disorder, Salon, die puny humans, Rense, emails, NYT, Slashdot, Daniel Patrick Welch, spaceweather.com, AlterNet, Keepers of Lists, The Shifted Librarian, Geisha Asobi, Presurfer, Planet Waves Weekly, Ananova, Daring Fireball, and a few just out of my old head. I guess if you'd looked you would have seen that.
cedar: >By all means steal the link (a via: is always nice but certainly not required) but posting front page stuff verbatim? Not cool at all.
>Coming here to announce with a self link (that isn't even a link) that your ripping off MeFi content is just nuts. Step away from the crack pipe.
Why is that? Plenty of blogs lift whole sets of paragraphs from sites all over the web. Why should MeFi be exempt? And see above.
monju_bosatsu: >"© 1999-2003 The MetaFilter Network
All posts are © their original authors."
Geez. At least write the post in your own words.
I always post the Mefi permalink and the front page link. I see the © symbol. How many words would I need to change to avoid infringement?
And then it would be better than the original? And more ethical?
thomcatspike: >Track back???? Is this what you want to do???? Also, you self linked on this thread, use your profile page, please & thanks.
I'm on Radio. They recently set up Trackback and I tried it out but it seems broken. I never thought of using my profile, in fact haven't even thought of it at all since first signing on. I just found it under Customize and filled in some junk including my URL. Thanks! I'll just rely on it in the future.
quonsar: >what he should be asking himself is, what's the point? how does his blog distinguish itself from mefi? why does it exist?
I don't just copy Mefi, see above. It exists as a creative outlet for me, where I've surfed my favorite sites, pick the info/posts I like, format text the way I want, add graphics (often from associative imagination - Google image search - rather than direct), and often have a quip or comment of my own. Do librarians need to push their own writings at us, or can we just enjoy what they collect, preserve and lend?
orange swan: >lifting MeFi material is just not a good idea. You can used brief, properly attributed quotes, but that's about it. Sure, you might get away with doing more, it's not like any of us will sue, but surely it's just as easy and rewarding to do the ethical thing.
I posted here out of concern to do the right thing. If I wanted to drive traffic I could have posted to MetaFILTER.
>What's really annoying about the rootcellar.info address is that any link you click on opens in your frame-set, and your frame-set just doesn't go away. I'd already clicked through several sites before I realized it still said rootcellar.info in the address bar.
I didn't realize that was happening, and yes, I agree, and it's even worse than annoying. Fixed now.
mathowie: >People can quote an entire post, I really don't care much about it.
Thank you. If folks don't want something as simple as a post to be copied, with the Mefi permalink and the front page link, maybe they shouldn't be posting. To quote quonsar, "putzes. nobody owns links."
Orb: >if a link seems interesting enough to you to post on your own blog, wouldn't it be more interesting for your visitors if you had something original to say about it rather than just copying Mefi posts word for word? Just seems a little redundant and non-creative.
See above. I love MetaFilter and the many posters here. I figure my own web log is original in its own way. YMMV.
posted by Grand Wahzoo at 7:42 AM on November 5, 2003
advice reposting mefi to blog
First, I think you need some advice on posting your blog onto meFi.
posted by seanyboy at 8:06 AM on November 5, 2003
First, I think you need some advice on posting your blog onto meFi.
posted by seanyboy at 8:06 AM on November 5, 2003
Hey, I lifted a link from MeFi on Monday. Can I get some traffic to my blog too?
Grand Wahzoo - for somebody who's looking for advice, you seem a little defensive. I don't have any problem with you copying as many or as few of my words as you want. I think copyright is broken these days anyway, and I suspect that notice is in the MeFi footer to absolve Matt of responsibility for anything that's posted as much as for anything else.
I think what people are saying is 1. recording what you found interesting is worth doing, but it might make for better reading if you also put your own spin on it (maybe you do, but it sounds from the comments here as if you aren't), and 2. this whole post seems more like an attempt to get traffic and to promote your self than as a genuine call for help.
Whether that was your intent or not is not really relevant. That's how it looks, and people around these parts typically look down on that kind of thing.
posted by willnot at 8:20 AM on November 5, 2003
Grand Wahzoo - for somebody who's looking for advice, you seem a little defensive. I don't have any problem with you copying as many or as few of my words as you want. I think copyright is broken these days anyway, and I suspect that notice is in the MeFi footer to absolve Matt of responsibility for anything that's posted as much as for anything else.
I think what people are saying is 1. recording what you found interesting is worth doing, but it might make for better reading if you also put your own spin on it (maybe you do, but it sounds from the comments here as if you aren't), and 2. this whole post seems more like an attempt to get traffic and to promote your self than as a genuine call for help.
Whether that was your intent or not is not really relevant. That's how it looks, and people around these parts typically look down on that kind of thing.
posted by willnot at 8:20 AM on November 5, 2003
Grand Wahzoo: If you're going to quote posts from MeFi, please place the quoted text in quote marks and indicate to whom the post is attributed. Ideally, though, you should just take the link, and not the post, and write about why you find it interesting. Or just give the link by itself.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 8:27 AM on November 5, 2003
posted by monju_bosatsu at 8:27 AM on November 5, 2003
So your originality is in copying things from a variety of sources?
Interesting.
posted by xmutex at 9:12 AM on November 5, 2003
Interesting.
posted by xmutex at 9:12 AM on November 5, 2003
"Why is that? Plenty of blogs lift whole sets of paragraphs from sites all over the web. Why should MeFi be exempt?"
Because MeFi is a blog. You'll find most other weblogs would be somewhat concerned if their content was being posted verbatim on a regular basis, it's not as though your pasting from a news source, what your doing is taking the words of someone else to create content for your own site. It may not be uncommon but that doesn't make it ethical -- anyway, it's kind of pointless to post about something that >17k people have already had the opportunity to read and comment on. I'll filter MeFi to suit my own taste rather than depend on yours.
Your mind is obviously made up and you have gone to great lengths to justify your actions, this begs the question of why did you ask for advice in the first place? You've clearly decided to ignore the opinions of the overwhelming majority and have gone to great lengths to justify your actions.
I'm glad you got some extra traffic -- maybe eventually you'll learn the only way to keep it is to generate compelling and original content. I still think functioning as some sort of human aggregator and recycler of others words is a pretty damn pitiful excuse for a weblog -- but hell, it's your time and I don't imagine bandwidth is much of a concern. Knock yourself out.
By the way, I'd be careful about the adding graphics from Google image search bit -- not everyone is as tolerant about copyright as Matt.
posted by cedar at 9:22 AM on November 5, 2003
Because MeFi is a blog. You'll find most other weblogs would be somewhat concerned if their content was being posted verbatim on a regular basis, it's not as though your pasting from a news source, what your doing is taking the words of someone else to create content for your own site. It may not be uncommon but that doesn't make it ethical -- anyway, it's kind of pointless to post about something that >17k people have already had the opportunity to read and comment on. I'll filter MeFi to suit my own taste rather than depend on yours.
Your mind is obviously made up and you have gone to great lengths to justify your actions, this begs the question of why did you ask for advice in the first place? You've clearly decided to ignore the opinions of the overwhelming majority and have gone to great lengths to justify your actions.
I'm glad you got some extra traffic -- maybe eventually you'll learn the only way to keep it is to generate compelling and original content. I still think functioning as some sort of human aggregator and recycler of others words is a pretty damn pitiful excuse for a weblog -- but hell, it's your time and I don't imagine bandwidth is much of a concern. Knock yourself out.
By the way, I'd be careful about the adding graphics from Google image search bit -- not everyone is as tolerant about copyright as Matt.
posted by cedar at 9:22 AM on November 5, 2003
I love how people are willing to invent new guidelines on MetaFilter that don't exist, simply to feed their inner pedant.
MetaFilter offers an RSS feed for the purpose of sharing content with other Web sites. Matt doesn't mind the reuse and is well-familiar with Creative Commons licenses that could be used to dictate more particular terms for such use.
Root.Cellar always gives credit to sites when reposting links, and this kind of verbatim-with-credit reuse is practiced on hundreds of weblogs (especially in the Radio weblog community, because that software makes it easy).
But hey, don't let that stop anyone from slagging this guy as an unethical self-linking thief and then following it up by claiming he's too defensive and goes to great lengths to justify his perfidy.
posted by rcade at 9:34 AM on November 5, 2003
MetaFilter offers an RSS feed for the purpose of sharing content with other Web sites. Matt doesn't mind the reuse and is well-familiar with Creative Commons licenses that could be used to dictate more particular terms for such use.
Root.Cellar always gives credit to sites when reposting links, and this kind of verbatim-with-credit reuse is practiced on hundreds of weblogs (especially in the Radio weblog community, because that software makes it easy).
But hey, don't let that stop anyone from slagging this guy as an unethical self-linking thief and then following it up by claiming he's too defensive and goes to great lengths to justify his perfidy.
posted by rcade at 9:34 AM on November 5, 2003
muuooooffffff
Is it like the long-distance-kiss sound - MMMMWWAH! - only with an F on the end for some reason?
And yeah, it's not the violation of copyright that's the real issue here, it's the general uncoolness of putting unattributed quotes from MeFi users up as blog entries on your own blog. If you're adding your own quips and then sending people to MeFi, why not leave our quips off your page so they have something entertaining to read once they get here?
To quote quonsar, "putzes. nobody owns links."
You... you do understand the difference between a "link" and a whole "post," right?
posted by soyjoy at 9:38 AM on November 5, 2003
Is it like the long-distance-kiss sound - MMMMWWAH! - only with an F on the end for some reason?
And yeah, it's not the violation of copyright that's the real issue here, it's the general uncoolness of putting unattributed quotes from MeFi users up as blog entries on your own blog. If you're adding your own quips and then sending people to MeFi, why not leave our quips off your page so they have something entertaining to read once they get here?
To quote quonsar, "putzes. nobody owns links."
You... you do understand the difference between a "link" and a whole "post," right?
posted by soyjoy at 9:38 AM on November 5, 2003
I think the main problem is how Radio works with RSS feeds. Stewart posted about it a few months ago, and I chimed in. The software automates lifting an entire post, and doesn't do a good job of proper attribution (in my opinion, the attribution could be much stronger, especially with some CSS to differentiate from a typical post).
But so many people using radio seem to do it now that it's kind of pointless to object to it anymore.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 10:52 AM on November 5, 2003
But so many people using radio seem to do it now that it's kind of pointless to object to it anymore.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 10:52 AM on November 5, 2003
My weblog entries are lifted wholesale in a few places -- including automated ones that republish everything.
I've always viewed it as a limited issue because the sites that make use of it are generally low-traffic personal sites being used as "backup brains" by their authors. As these authors get more adept at weblogging, many of them find their own voice and run verbatim posts less often. When they don't, it's nice to get the Technorati love.
The "via" text could be more explicit. Radio does provide a second kind of source attribution -- every one of these verbatim posts includes a SOURCE tag in the ITEM element, like this:
<source url="http://boingboing.net/rss.xml">Boing Boing Blog</source>
P.s. Since yesterday, I haven't been able to post to MetaFilter from Mozilla. When I preview, my comment text field is gone, I can't see my comment, and there's no Post button. Is anyone else experiencing this?
posted by rcade at 11:16 AM on November 5, 2003
I've always viewed it as a limited issue because the sites that make use of it are generally low-traffic personal sites being used as "backup brains" by their authors. As these authors get more adept at weblogging, many of them find their own voice and run verbatim posts less often. When they don't, it's nice to get the Technorati love.
The "via" text could be more explicit. Radio does provide a second kind of source attribution -- every one of these verbatim posts includes a SOURCE tag in the ITEM element, like this:
<source url="http://boingboing.net/rss.xml">Boing Boing Blog</source>
P.s. Since yesterday, I haven't been able to post to MetaFilter from Mozilla. When I preview, my comment text field is gone, I can't see my comment, and there's no Post button. Is anyone else experiencing this?
posted by rcade at 11:16 AM on November 5, 2003
rcade, something's up with your cookies, logout and back in to replace them.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 11:36 AM on November 5, 2003
posted by mathowie (staff) at 11:36 AM on November 5, 2003
Thanks to all. I realize now that these issues have been hashed out before, and I have much to learn. That was an interesting post/comments at Stewart's Sylloge. Sorry if I sounded defensive. I do post directly from Radio's RSS feed but then I edit. If the point of the original post was to have the viewer read or see at a different link than the originating post, I almost always will make that link my top link and the originating post's link or permalink further down in the post. I never intended to rip off anyone. Live and learn. I'm still trying to figure out what to do, though, as mostly I do want to direct quote the full post, but I want to add my little tweaks.
Did anyone notice that just before I asked this question I'd posted (ALL CAPS JUST TO SET IT OFF HERE):
METAFILTER, THE "COMMUNITY WEBLOG" WITH 17,169 MEMBERS.
TRUST ME, IF YOU JOIN YOU WON'T SEE A SINGLE PIECE OF SPAM FROM IT. WHATEVER.
And, back on July 17th I posted this:
http://radio.weblogs.com/0123486/2003/07/17.html#a322
METAFILTER - "VIA [METAFILTER]"
IF YOU FOLLOW ROOT.CELLAR, YOU'VE PROBABLY NOTICED A LOT OF "VIA [METAFILTER]" ENTRIES. METAFILTER IS A GEEK HANGOUT I "SUBSCRIBE" TO IN MY "NEWS AGGREGATOR". IF YOU FOLLOW ONE OF THOSE "VIA [METAFILTER]" LINKS I POST, YOU'LL FIND IT LEADS TO THE ORIGINAL POST (OF COURSE), BUT MORE, A SERIES OF REPLIES SIMILAR TO AN OLD-SCHOOL BBS.
posted by Grand Wahzoo at 1:25 PM on November 5, 2003
Did anyone notice that just before I asked this question I'd posted (ALL CAPS JUST TO SET IT OFF HERE):
METAFILTER, THE "COMMUNITY WEBLOG" WITH 17,169 MEMBERS.
TRUST ME, IF YOU JOIN YOU WON'T SEE A SINGLE PIECE OF SPAM FROM IT. WHATEVER.
And, back on July 17th I posted this:
http://radio.weblogs.com/0123486/2003/07/17.html#a322
METAFILTER - "VIA [METAFILTER]"
IF YOU FOLLOW ROOT.CELLAR, YOU'VE PROBABLY NOTICED A LOT OF "VIA [METAFILTER]" ENTRIES. METAFILTER IS A GEEK HANGOUT I "SUBSCRIBE" TO IN MY "NEWS AGGREGATOR". IF YOU FOLLOW ONE OF THOSE "VIA [METAFILTER]" LINKS I POST, YOU'LL FIND IT LEADS TO THE ORIGINAL POST (OF COURSE), BUT MORE, A SERIES OF REPLIES SIMILAR TO AN OLD-SCHOOL BBS.
posted by Grand Wahzoo at 1:25 PM on November 5, 2003
Gee rcade, I don't see anyone inventing guidelines. For myself, I'm trying find a polite way to encourage the original poster to create original content rather than simply repost Metafilter posts verbatim.
Matt has made the guidelines, or lack thereof, very clear so it's hardly a policy issue. I run a couple of aggregators on my desktop and also occasionally parse newsfeeds on public sites. However, I post excerpts allowing those interested to view the originals in context. There is a case to made that Radios implementation is not the optimum solution.
There is a difference between occasionally posting, with personal commentary, stuff from other sites (even full posts) and basing a large part of ones site solely on content generated by one specific site. Far be it for me to dictate what anyone does with their web space, but he did ask, you know?
You have to admit it's a little silly saying, 'I intend to post your content and would like you to explain the best method of doing so.' Directing people to an email link on said site to respond is even worse... he wants advice and will 'try' to check back. WTF?
Grand Wahzoo: advice was never your intent. Your intent was to generate traffic as evidenced by the blatant self link. This business about needing the link to demonstrate is nonsense, "I often repost mefi stuff on my blog, often meaning Several times a week, sometimes multiple times a Day," sums it up pretty good.
posted by cedar at 1:25 PM on November 5, 2003
Matt has made the guidelines, or lack thereof, very clear so it's hardly a policy issue. I run a couple of aggregators on my desktop and also occasionally parse newsfeeds on public sites. However, I post excerpts allowing those interested to view the originals in context. There is a case to made that Radios implementation is not the optimum solution.
There is a difference between occasionally posting, with personal commentary, stuff from other sites (even full posts) and basing a large part of ones site solely on content generated by one specific site. Far be it for me to dictate what anyone does with their web space, but he did ask, you know?
You have to admit it's a little silly saying, 'I intend to post your content and would like you to explain the best method of doing so.' Directing people to an email link on said site to respond is even worse... he wants advice and will 'try' to check back. WTF?
Grand Wahzoo: advice was never your intent. Your intent was to generate traffic as evidenced by the blatant self link. This business about needing the link to demonstrate is nonsense, "I often repost mefi stuff on my blog, often meaning Several times a week, sometimes multiple times a Day," sums it up pretty good.
posted by cedar at 1:25 PM on November 5, 2003
Whoops, I linked to myself again. My bad.
posted by Grand Wahzoo at 1:26 PM on November 5, 2003
posted by Grand Wahzoo at 1:26 PM on November 5, 2003
TRUST ME, IF YOU JOIN YOU WON'T SEE A SINGLE PIECE OF SPAM FROM IT. WHATEVER.
What on earth does this mean?
posted by mathowie (staff) at 1:43 PM on November 5, 2003
What on earth does this mean?
posted by mathowie (staff) at 1:43 PM on November 5, 2003
I think he's trying to tell us something. Try waving your arms around...
posted by feelinglistless at 3:24 PM on November 5, 2003
posted by feelinglistless at 3:24 PM on November 5, 2003
>TRUST ME, IF YOU JOIN YOU WON'T SEE A SINGLE PIECE OF SPAM FROM IT. >WHATEVER.
>What on earth does this mean?
Simply that joining up with various places will end up getting you spammed. Not everyone that might read my posts would trust MetaFilter any more than many other places.
And,
>I think he's trying to tell us something. Try waving your arms around...
Maybe it's Voo Doo. I'm outta here for now. Send email if you want.
posted by Grand Wahzoo at 3:38 PM on November 5, 2003
>What on earth does this mean?
Simply that joining up with various places will end up getting you spammed. Not everyone that might read my posts would trust MetaFilter any more than many other places.
And,
>I think he's trying to tell us something. Try waving your arms around...
Maybe it's Voo Doo. I'm outta here for now. Send email if you want.
posted by Grand Wahzoo at 3:38 PM on November 5, 2003
For myself, I'm trying find a polite way to encourage the original poster to create original content rather than simply repost Metafilter posts verbatim.
Keep trying. I don't see much constructive in the claim he's "ripping off MeFi," publishing a "pretty damn pitiful excuse for a weblog" and going to great lengths to justify his actions.
... advice was never your intent. Your intent was to generate traffic as evidenced by the blatant self link.
I love the smell of encouragement in the morning.
posted by rcade at 4:52 PM on November 5, 2003
Keep trying. I don't see much constructive in the claim he's "ripping off MeFi," publishing a "pretty damn pitiful excuse for a weblog" and going to great lengths to justify his actions.
... advice was never your intent. Your intent was to generate traffic as evidenced by the blatant self link.
I love the smell of encouragement in the morning.
posted by rcade at 4:52 PM on November 5, 2003
What on earth does this mean?
he's being complimentary, matt. he's saying joining mefi will not get you spammed.
now, hate mail is another thing :-)
posted by quonsar at 6:57 PM on November 5, 2003
he's being complimentary, matt. he's saying joining mefi will not get you spammed.
now, hate mail is another thing :-)
posted by quonsar at 6:57 PM on November 5, 2003
you know, i really liked the librarian metaphor. very nice.
posted by triv at 5:28 AM on November 6, 2003
posted by triv at 5:28 AM on November 6, 2003
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The.
Fuck.
Grand Wahzoo?
posted by dg at 3:54 PM on November 4, 2003