deleting metatalk, broken blogad August 25, 2004 11:03 AM Subscribe
Two things:
1. Deleting metatalk threads is bad karma.
2. The "don't pardon big tobacco" blogad is broken -- apostrophes ['] and quotes ["] are displaying as question marks [?] (this is strange, since quotes are displaying fine in the other blogad).
1. Deleting metatalk threads is bad karma.
2. The "don't pardon big tobacco" blogad is broken -- apostrophes ['] and quotes ["] are displaying as question marks [?] (this is strange, since quotes are displaying fine in the other blogad).
I think people were actually making progress on educating Ethereal Bligh in brevity.
posted by SpaceCadet at 11:20 AM on August 25, 2004
posted by SpaceCadet at 11:20 AM on August 25, 2004
It's Matt's experiment. We just run on the treadmill.
posted by Smart Dalek at 11:35 AM on August 25, 2004
posted by Smart Dalek at 11:35 AM on August 25, 2004
I have nothing to add -- I just thought the username alliteration was getting out of hand.
posted by cortex at 12:48 PM on August 25, 2004
posted by cortex at 12:48 PM on August 25, 2004
Which thread was it?
posted by dash_slot- at 12:54 PM on August 25, 2004
posted by dash_slot- at 12:54 PM on August 25, 2004
I agree that the deletion of EB's thread was a bad descision. Has he been given a time out or something? Where is he?
posted by Quartermass at 1:06 PM on August 25, 2004
posted by Quartermass at 1:06 PM on August 25, 2004
He just posted in the terabyte-disk thread, so he's still around.
posted by kenko at 1:11 PM on August 25, 2004
posted by kenko at 1:11 PM on August 25, 2004
many people here are way too harsh on him, for someone whose biggest fault is that they have diarrhea of the typing fingers.
posted by amberglow at 1:19 PM on August 25, 2004
posted by amberglow at 1:19 PM on August 25, 2004
God bless the meepzorp mirror! I loved that thread. It started with EB saying "This morning I had an idea" (oh joy!) and proceeded (after much discussion of off-site discussion) to this memorable EB outburst:
Quonsar, with all due respect, which is not much, I know more about the net, the web, and non-web protocols than you'll ever know. Do you even know what an RFC is?
I plan to adopt "Do you even know what an RFC is?" as my personal rejoinder to just about anything.
On preview: amberglow, you're one of the sweetest, nicest people I've ever met, and I admire your attempts to stick up for EB, but I don't think everyone would agree that that's his biggest fault. Of course you're right that people here are way too harsh on him, but on the other hand he demonstrates an astonishing inability to learn from experience.
*awaits a tortured 5,000-word explanation and self-vindication*
posted by languagehat at 1:26 PM on August 25, 2004
Quonsar, with all due respect, which is not much, I know more about the net, the web, and non-web protocols than you'll ever know. Do you even know what an RFC is?
I plan to adopt "Do you even know what an RFC is?" as my personal rejoinder to just about anything.
On preview: amberglow, you're one of the sweetest, nicest people I've ever met, and I admire your attempts to stick up for EB, but I don't think everyone would agree that that's his biggest fault. Of course you're right that people here are way too harsh on him, but on the other hand he demonstrates an astonishing inability to learn from experience.
*awaits a tortured 5,000-word explanation and self-vindication*
posted by languagehat at 1:26 PM on August 25, 2004
Given that we only know each other here through "the typing fingers", Shirley that's how we're going to judge each other?
I mean, I might make the most delicious chocolate-chip cookies in the entire world (and I do), but that's not going to mitigate my tetchiness and impatience with others.
posted by Sidhedevil at 1:29 PM on August 25, 2004
I mean, I might make the most delicious chocolate-chip cookies in the entire world (and I do), but that's not going to mitigate my tetchiness and impatience with others.
posted by Sidhedevil at 1:29 PM on August 25, 2004
many people here are way too harsh on him, for someone whose biggest fault is that they have diarrhea of the typing fingers.
Well, that and that he apparently gets his cock out if someone questions him about how long it is.
If anyone is wondering RFC = Rugby Football Club.
posted by biffa at 1:31 PM on August 25, 2004
Well, that and that he apparently gets his cock out if someone questions him about how long it is.
If anyone is wondering RFC = Rugby Football Club.
posted by biffa at 1:31 PM on August 25, 2004
You guys tryin' to get this thread deleted, too?
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 1:31 PM on August 25, 2004
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 1:31 PM on August 25, 2004
Are you still going to implement your idea, Ethereal Bligh?
posted by ZippityBuddha at 1:37 PM on August 25, 2004
posted by ZippityBuddha at 1:37 PM on August 25, 2004
If this thread gets deleted, I will be most upset. Then again, someone could always just start another.
posted by reklaw at 1:42 PM on August 25, 2004
posted by reklaw at 1:42 PM on August 25, 2004
"Are you still going to implement your idea, Ethereal Bligh?"
Well, today for some odd reason, I'm not very enthusiastic. But I've heard that some non-members expressed interest in a MeFi adjunct. It seemed like a neat idea, both as a "spillover" for MeFi talk that doesn't quite fit, and for non-members to contribute. I was most interested in the tech, it actually didn't occur to me whether I'd use it much or that was my intent (it wasn't) until someone asked. I put it forth as a community idea, in the same spirit that other extra-mefi stuff has been proposed here in the past. But anything associated with me is tainted, so... I didn't take that part into consideration. Seemed like a perfectly fine thread until it went off-the-rails.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 1:44 PM on August 25, 2004
Well, today for some odd reason, I'm not very enthusiastic. But I've heard that some non-members expressed interest in a MeFi adjunct. It seemed like a neat idea, both as a "spillover" for MeFi talk that doesn't quite fit, and for non-members to contribute. I was most interested in the tech, it actually didn't occur to me whether I'd use it much or that was my intent (it wasn't) until someone asked. I put it forth as a community idea, in the same spirit that other extra-mefi stuff has been proposed here in the past. But anything associated with me is tainted, so... I didn't take that part into consideration. Seemed like a perfectly fine thread until it went off-the-rails.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 1:44 PM on August 25, 2004
languagehat - please don't turn this thread into, you know, another one of those threads about him. You'd have no one to blame but yourself this time.
posted by scarabic at 2:01 PM on August 25, 2004
posted by scarabic at 2:01 PM on August 25, 2004
Even though Matt didn't specifically say why he deleted the thread, and even though it could be argued that the thread served precisely Metatalks needs in that it was a request for something that would allow people to talk to each other and yet keep the integrity of the thread in place, it would appear that the thread was deleted because it had started to break down into the usual metatalk harruanging of a member of metafilter that I'm not going to name for reasons that people can probably understand, that is, it may turn into a situation where one person gets upset and starts talking about how much they know in comparison to other people and how much bigger certain parts of there anatomy are and how once, when they were much younger than they are today and they didn't need the community of metafilter and they noticed that sometimes when people started arguing with each other, that some people would be reasonable, but that some other lowercase name starting people would immediately start dropping snarky comments, and this was a weird thing, because it gave them an understanding that in this world, probably most people didn't know as much as they did about important things like they did, and this is probably the reason that Matt deleted the thread, well that and the fact that macromedia have yet to create a java based product which allows 300 comment threads full of 1000 word essays to be displayed and not read to the readers of this important and culturally significant piece of web real estate that they call metafilter, which makes me remember how lucky i am in many regards, and I understand what most people have to say, and even though they've pretty much proved the opposite of what I was saying, I'm going to say exactly the same thing again, which reminds me of this one time when I was in band practice, and I was telling everyone how I like to think really deeply about things, and how, by nature, I tend to go meta-meta-meta-meta-meta, and not everybody understands this, but I'm a natural philospher, and I've thought very deeply about the world, and I can't go into the explanations, because you would'nt understand them, but basically you're all wrong.
posted by seanyboy at 2:34 PM on August 25, 2004
posted by seanyboy at 2:34 PM on August 25, 2004
/me feels pretty, and witty.
[Witty objects vociferously.]
posted by quonsar at 2:42 PM on August 25, 2004
[Witty objects vociferously.]
posted by quonsar at 2:42 PM on August 25, 2004
Do you even know what an RFC is?
Um... Request For Crap?
posted by soyjoy at 2:49 PM on August 25, 2004
Um... Request For Crap?
posted by soyjoy at 2:49 PM on August 25, 2004
seany-darling - I know you want me to tell you this - using 'gay' as an insult is, well, gay.
And homophobic.
Even when ironic...
posted by dash_slot- at 3:21 PM on August 25, 2004
And homophobic.
Even when ironic...
posted by dash_slot- at 3:21 PM on August 25, 2004
So basically, the thread was deleted out of pure disgust?
Can't say I argue with that. In fact, I'd probably advocate a wider round of Disgusting MeTa Thread Annihilation.
Actually, fuck it. Just nuke the Grey. Please.
posted by scarabic at 3:27 PM on August 25, 2004
Can't say I argue with that. In fact, I'd probably advocate a wider round of Disgusting MeTa Thread Annihilation.
Actually, fuck it. Just nuke the Grey. Please.
posted by scarabic at 3:27 PM on August 25, 2004
I like to think of it as less an ironic statement, and more a parody.
As in ... "Why don't you two go off and suck each others dicks."
But. Point taken. Won't happen again.
posted by seanyboy at 3:37 PM on August 25, 2004
As in ... "Why don't you two go off and suck each others dicks."
But. Point taken. Won't happen again.
posted by seanyboy at 3:37 PM on August 25, 2004
I honestly can't make it all the way through most of EBs comments. I still like him though.
posted by bob sarabia at 3:45 PM on August 25, 2004
posted by bob sarabia at 3:45 PM on August 25, 2004
EB started the thread off and people mocked him for being a gasbag, and he tried to get people to stop, then more gasbaggery and then some stop picking on me and people saying that to in order to stop being a gasbag one has to actually stop talking, but EB kept posting while people kept mocking.
In other words, it was a clusterfuck.
I don't want EB to be the new bunnyfire or Miguel, and that thread certainly wasn't helping his case, so I figured the best way for EB to start fresh or make a change was to get rid of that 50,000 word turd of a thread.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 4:12 PM on August 25, 2004
In other words, it was a clusterfuck.
I don't want EB to be the new bunnyfire or Miguel, and that thread certainly wasn't helping his case, so I figured the best way for EB to start fresh or make a change was to get rid of that 50,000 word turd of a thread.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 4:12 PM on August 25, 2004
"I don't want EB to be the new bunnyfire or Miguel"
[pouts] Darn!
posted by y6y6y6 at 4:31 PM on August 25, 2004
[pouts] Darn!
posted by y6y6y6 at 4:31 PM on August 25, 2004
But I like bunnyfire and Miguel (EB, too)!
posted by timeistight at 4:57 PM on August 25, 2004
posted by timeistight at 4:57 PM on August 25, 2004
I'd stick up for EB if I could honestly say I've gotten to the end of any of his >3 line comments, but I haven't.
posted by Space Coyote at 5:03 PM on August 25, 2004
posted by Space Coyote at 5:03 PM on August 25, 2004
I punched a cow today
posted by ZippityBuddha at 5:17 PM on August 25, 2004
posted by ZippityBuddha at 5:17 PM on August 25, 2004
I'll check into the blogads thing. I noticed it, and suspect it's a problem with their system.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 5:28 PM on August 25, 2004
posted by mathowie (staff) at 5:28 PM on August 25, 2004
EB, be thankful and appreciative. Matt has done you a favor.
Take it from one who knows.
posted by konolia at 6:42 PM on August 25, 2004
Take it from one who knows.
posted by konolia at 6:42 PM on August 25, 2004
Sometimes I wonder if konolia constantly mentions her "previous life" (ever so cleverly in not so subtle ways) because she's proud of her infamous behavior. As if making a complete spectacle of yourself was somehow an accomplishment that has impacted this site in some meaningful way.
Other times I wonder why I think aloud.
posted by BlueTrain at 7:14 PM on August 25, 2004
Other times I wonder why I think aloud.
posted by BlueTrain at 7:14 PM on August 25, 2004
I figured the best way for EB to start fresh or make a change was to get rid of that 50,000 word turd of a thread.
It was an entertaining 50,000 word turd of a thread.
So.
Many.
Words.
posted by Quartermass at 7:16 PM on August 25, 2004
It was an entertaining 50,000 word turd of a thread.
So.
Many.
Words.
posted by Quartermass at 7:16 PM on August 25, 2004
If Matt deletes a thread, but quonsar mirrors it, and we're still talking about the thread in another thread... was the thread really deleted?
posted by reklaw at 7:36 PM on August 25, 2004
posted by reklaw at 7:36 PM on August 25, 2004
scarabic: You're quite right. My bad. It was one of those irresistible impulses that should have been resisted.
But damn, all of this is so funny!
posted by languagehat at 7:45 PM on August 25, 2004
But damn, all of this is so funny!
posted by languagehat at 7:45 PM on August 25, 2004
"because she's proud of her infamous behavior"
Duh. That was the best meltdown ever. We wait expectantly for a redux. And she knows it. konolia is distressingly boring given that context.
konolia wishes she were bunnyfire. The bitter envy is made worse by the fact that she is. And to let us forget that........ inconceivable.
posted by y6y6y6 at 7:51 PM on August 25, 2004
Duh. That was the best meltdown ever. We wait expectantly for a redux. And she knows it. konolia is distressingly boring given that context.
konolia wishes she were bunnyfire. The bitter envy is made worse by the fact that she is. And to let us forget that........ inconceivable.
posted by y6y6y6 at 7:51 PM on August 25, 2004
So.
Many.
Words.
And the best part: it was all about how to generate and where to house many many more words!
posted by CunningLinguist at 7:56 PM on August 25, 2004
Many.
Words.
And the best part: it was all about how to generate and where to house many many more words!
posted by CunningLinguist at 7:56 PM on August 25, 2004
Duh. That was the best meltdown ever.
Pfft: Son_of_Minya threatening to cut off his right hand was much more interesting.
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 8:16 PM on August 25, 2004
Pfft: Son_of_Minya threatening to cut off his right hand was much more interesting.
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 8:16 PM on August 25, 2004
As I recall, that was a perfectly reasonable comment about cutting off his right hand.
posted by soyjoy at 8:27 PM on August 25, 2004
posted by soyjoy at 8:27 PM on August 25, 2004
Double Pfft! There was never a MetaFilter meltdown like the meltdown that cannot be named. It was so bad, mathowie had to erase all the evidence.
posted by timeistight at 8:48 PM on August 25, 2004
posted by timeistight at 8:48 PM on August 25, 2004
That was indeed a thing of beauty, now melted into oblivion like the sixfold dance of the fleeting snowflake.
(We're talking about when Neu went all batshit and stuff, right?)
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 8:57 PM on August 25, 2004
(We're talking about when Neu went all batshit and stuff, right?)
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 8:57 PM on August 25, 2004
Actually Pr****eP***s and his aliases were the fun bans on MeFi. Probably the guy who tested Matt's ban methods the most, also required cleanup and identity changes.
posted by riffola at 9:06 PM on August 25, 2004
posted by riffola at 9:06 PM on August 25, 2004
BlueTrain and y6y6y6's psychoanalysis of konolia may or may not be accurate. But was it called for? From what we know of konolia, even if there's a tiny bit of pride in her former notorious self, does anyone doubt that her comment here directed toward me was mostly well-intended and just plain nice? Her sin then and now is to be seemingly naive in a Hobbesian environment—the horror!
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 1:33 AM on August 26, 2004
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 1:33 AM on August 26, 2004
The deleted thread, and this one, are possibly the most amusing things I've ever read on the MetaFilter network. Irony, surrealism, irrelevancy, metameta discussion, cockshows, and inanity.
Truly, the best of the web. FPP-worthy, were it not that the entire metaweb and all its users would disappear into a quantum singularity, obliterating the universe in the process.
posted by five fresh fish at 3:13 AM on August 26, 2004
Truly, the best of the web. FPP-worthy, were it not that the entire metaweb and all its users would disappear into a quantum singularity, obliterating the universe in the process.
posted by five fresh fish at 3:13 AM on August 26, 2004
If only there were a way for me to send lithium through this message to each and every one of you.
posted by crunchland at 3:15 AM on August 26, 2004
posted by crunchland at 3:15 AM on August 26, 2004
Sometimes I wonder if konolia constantly mentions her "previous life" (ever so cleverly in not so subtle ways) because she's proud of her infamous behavior. As if making a complete spectacle of yourself was somehow an accomplishment that has impacted this site in some meaningful way.
Other times I wonder why I think aloud.
Maybe I am proud of GETTING AND REMAINING WELL.
AS to complete spectacle, get a grip. It is only words on a screen. At over two years later, I jolly well AM going to get a laugh out of it.
posted by konolia at 4:30 AM on August 26, 2004
Other times I wonder why I think aloud.
Maybe I am proud of GETTING AND REMAINING WELL.
AS to complete spectacle, get a grip. It is only words on a screen. At over two years later, I jolly well AM going to get a laugh out of it.
posted by konolia at 4:30 AM on August 26, 2004
You go, girl... I may disagree with your views and opinions (sometimes vehemently), but anybody who can come that far, and in such a public way, deserves my respect.
MetaTalk: the meltdown that cannot be named.
posted by JollyWanker at 5:57 AM on August 26, 2004
MetaTalk: the meltdown that cannot be named.
posted by JollyWanker at 5:57 AM on August 26, 2004
I have no doubt that you have gotten better. I think a lot of us have evolved over the years, and the fact that your current persona is calm and far more lucid speaks volumes in respect to your recovery. However, constantly pointing to past failures as proof of your evolvement, to me, seems counterproductive, since it reminds everyone, including yourself, of a time I think we'd all like to forget.
As you say, it's only words on the screen, which is why when you say that, it's ironic since we're talking about your flame-out here.
posted by BlueTrain at 6:02 AM on August 26, 2004
As you say, it's only words on the screen, which is why when you say that, it's ironic since we're talking about your flame-out here.
posted by BlueTrain at 6:02 AM on August 26, 2004
I kind of thought konolia's references to her past life were akin to those sorts of born-again evangelists who go from church to church preaching about how baaaad they were before they found their salvation...
posted by five fresh fish at 8:43 AM on August 26, 2004
posted by five fresh fish at 8:43 AM on August 26, 2004
re: evelvement:
I'd like to proposerate the Darwinification of that verbual expessionism, whilst contemporanuously recogniting the existive of the word. In my aptly sized mind, 'evolution' is a concept depopularated with my fundaments, but can adequaintly be substitutionalised in the space currently occupinged by the letters 'evolvement'.
That is all.
posted by dash_slot- at 8:51 AM on August 26, 2004
I'd like to proposerate the Darwinification of that verbual expessionism, whilst contemporanuously recogniting the existive of the word. In my aptly sized mind, 'evolution' is a concept depopularated with my fundaments, but can adequaintly be substitutionalised in the space currently occupinged by the letters 'evolvement'.
That is all.
posted by dash_slot- at 8:51 AM on August 26, 2004
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posted by scarabic at 11:06 AM on August 25, 2004