Is a wikipedia article I contribued to a self-link? February 6, 2006 11:07 AM Subscribe
I want to post some links over on the Filter about an obscure topic. However, due to its obscurity, some of the links would be Wiki articles that I previously created. Would this count as self-promotion, or would it be accetable to do such? Should I simply do my best to work around them?
Put them in a "more inside".
posted by cillit bang at 11:27 AM on February 6, 2006
posted by cillit bang at 11:27 AM on February 6, 2006
Yeah, post them as the first comment, as a more inside, saying something like "here are a few wiki articles I contributed to on the subject of x"
posted by mathowie (staff) at 11:32 AM on February 6, 2006
posted by mathowie (staff) at 11:32 AM on February 6, 2006
*jaw drops*
posted by monju_bosatsu at 11:35 AM on February 6, 2006
posted by monju_bosatsu at 11:35 AM on February 6, 2006
Just make sure to write your more inside before posting, and post it immediately. N00bs tend to make this mistake.
posted by delmoi at 11:41 AM on February 6, 2006
posted by delmoi at 11:41 AM on February 6, 2006
Yeah, post them as the first comment
What, really? Seems inconsistent. Was it because he asked permission first?
posted by boo_radley at 11:48 AM on February 6, 2006
What, really? Seems inconsistent. Was it because he asked permission first?
posted by boo_radley at 11:48 AM on February 6, 2006
No, it's because there's nothing necessarily wrong with self-linking as long as it's a) not on the front page, and b) marked as such.
posted by Plutor at 11:52 AM on February 6, 2006
posted by Plutor at 11:52 AM on February 6, 2006
I'd keep anything you wrote out of the front page post. If you think the link will need some more supporting data, then add a few clearly-marked self-links to your wiki articles in a more-inside comment. Write the more-inside comment at the same time as you write your main post so that you can post it as the first comment.
One of the reasons self-links aren't good in posts is because the assumption is that if you're wrapped up in the content in some way [as a creator generally, or major contributor] you may not be the best judge of how worthy your topic is for putting on the front page. So, if the only thing you can turn up on your obscure topic of choice are things you wrote, I'd think twice. However, if you reallly think your topic is post-worthy, I'd try to work around the wiki links in the manner I described. keeping in mind that posting your own Wiki articles to MetaFilter could be seen as begging for trouble.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 11:57 AM on February 6, 2006
One of the reasons self-links aren't good in posts is because the assumption is that if you're wrapped up in the content in some way [as a creator generally, or major contributor] you may not be the best judge of how worthy your topic is for putting on the front page. So, if the only thing you can turn up on your obscure topic of choice are things you wrote, I'd think twice. However, if you reallly think your topic is post-worthy, I'd try to work around the wiki links in the manner I described. keeping in mind that posting your own Wiki articles to MetaFilter could be seen as begging for trouble.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 11:57 AM on February 6, 2006
... there's nothing necessarily wrong with self-linking as long as it's a) not on the front page ...
The first comment, in a post like the one proposed, is nothing more than a glorified "more inside" section, and is an extension of the post itself. Should I write up a post on some subject in which I'm interested, and then in the first comment point to my blog for more information? No. Self-links in comments are acceptable only when they are not effectively part of the post itself.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 11:59 AM on February 6, 2006
The first comment, in a post like the one proposed, is nothing more than a glorified "more inside" section, and is an extension of the post itself. Should I write up a post on some subject in which I'm interested, and then in the first comment point to my blog for more information? No. Self-links in comments are acceptable only when they are not effectively part of the post itself.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 11:59 AM on February 6, 2006
...and that the self-links are not essentially the content of the post. You could link to some very general authoritative and interesting site in your FPP and claim that it forms the substance of your post while self-linking in a comment. But doing so clearly violates the spirit of the rule, if not the letter.
If the self-links are ancillary and not on the FPP, that's okay. They never should be on the front page, even if obviously ancillary, because being on the front page is so high-profile that it's almost impossible to take the position that you're not promoting your own content. Self-links placed in a following comment are not automatically acceptable when it's obvious that your self-links are the raison d'etre of your post.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 12:01 PM on February 6, 2006
If the self-links are ancillary and not on the FPP, that's okay. They never should be on the front page, even if obviously ancillary, because being on the front page is so high-profile that it's almost impossible to take the position that you're not promoting your own content. Self-links placed in a following comment are not automatically acceptable when it's obvious that your self-links are the raison d'etre of your post.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 12:01 PM on February 6, 2006
yeah, jess's right, try to keep the self-linking out of the front page, at least
posted by matteo at 12:05 PM on February 6, 2006
posted by matteo at 12:05 PM on February 6, 2006
To my mind the fact that the links are wikipedia and therefor not under the linker's exclusive control makes a big difference.
posted by phearlez at 12:20 PM on February 6, 2006
posted by phearlez at 12:20 PM on February 6, 2006
Turned on its head: Can you make the post without the selfy-links? If not, then there's probably not much of a post to be had, since Wikipedia links certainly won't make a post. (Everyone here knows how to look things up in Wikipedia.)
If you can make the post without the selfy links and it's still as strong as it would be without them, why not just do that?
posted by mendel at 12:22 PM on February 6, 2006
If you can make the post without the selfy links and it's still as strong as it would be without them, why not just do that?
posted by mendel at 12:22 PM on February 6, 2006
monju, I'm saying what I am assuming it's a good post about a subject that doesn't benefit the poster directly and that their involvement in the wiki editing is minimal. In that case, mentioning the wiki posts in a comment seems an ok way to present the subject on mefi.
Of course, if it's a thinly veiled attempt to sell more widgets produced by a company the poster works at, all bets are off, but I'm assuming the best possible outcome.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 12:29 PM on February 6, 2006
Of course, if it's a thinly veiled attempt to sell more widgets produced by a company the poster works at, all bets are off, but I'm assuming the best possible outcome.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 12:29 PM on February 6, 2006
I'm with mathowie and jessamyn on this, even though I can't think of a way to benefit from it myself.
posted by davy at 12:39 PM on February 6, 2006
posted by davy at 12:39 PM on February 6, 2006
even though I can't think of a way to benefit from it myself.
maybe Atreides is Jimmy Wales
posted by matteo at 1:01 PM on February 6, 2006
maybe Atreides is Jimmy Wales
posted by matteo at 1:01 PM on February 6, 2006
mathowie, I would agree, given the assumptions you made. However, I don't think we can assume that Atreides simply meant that he had edited a few articles on Wikipedia. Instead, he says, "some of the links would be Wiki articles that I previously created." That's not necessary articles on Wikipedia, and he specifically says that he created them.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 1:31 PM on February 6, 2006
posted by monju_bosatsu at 1:31 PM on February 6, 2006
sounds to me like the wiki articles are ones he originated, not made slight edits to.
to my mind, a more inside should be fine. I disagree with the idea that a more inside is the same as putting a self-link in the fpp. There are people who don't read thread discussion, but click the fpp links. There's also something to be said for putting advertisement on the front page vs. simply mentioning an informative article you wrote after someone has already been interested enough to check out the thread.
but yeah, the idea that the topic shouldn't need wiki articles to make it substantive as an fpp is a good one.
posted by shmegegge at 1:33 PM on February 6, 2006
to my mind, a more inside should be fine. I disagree with the idea that a more inside is the same as putting a self-link in the fpp. There are people who don't read thread discussion, but click the fpp links. There's also something to be said for putting advertisement on the front page vs. simply mentioning an informative article you wrote after someone has already been interested enough to check out the thread.
but yeah, the idea that the topic shouldn't need wiki articles to make it substantive as an fpp is a good one.
posted by shmegegge at 1:33 PM on February 6, 2006
oh, and I recommend brining the topic and links to the MeFi Jabber chat room and/or the MeFi irc chat, and asking for feedback.
If everyone there thinks it's a crappy self link, you may want to rethink posting it. I myself have narrowly avoided embarassing double posts by doing this.
posted by shmegegge at 1:35 PM on February 6, 2006
If everyone there thinks it's a crappy self link, you may want to rethink posting it. I myself have narrowly avoided embarassing double posts by doing this.
posted by shmegegge at 1:35 PM on February 6, 2006
Assuming you used mostly online resources to write the wiki articles in the first place, those resources would probably work well enough for the FPP without the wiki articles, wouldn't they?
posted by Gator at 1:38 PM on February 6, 2006
posted by Gator at 1:38 PM on February 6, 2006
Show us the links, Atreides. If you really want a thoughtful opinion, that is. Or you can ask another member to post for you, which at least gets one other Mefite's brain involved in deciding if your content is worth posting.
posted by mediareport at 1:50 PM on February 6, 2006
posted by mediareport at 1:50 PM on February 6, 2006
maybe Atreides is Jimmy Wales
I deny nothing, but identity theft. < /bad joke>
First, let me thank everyone for offering their advice. This was certainly the type of discussion I was hoping to generate in regards for my search for answers to my questions.
In reference to the Wikipedia articles, three would be articles I exclusively added to the site (but not with plans of a MeFi link in the future). A fourth article is one I've assisted in. I'm inclined to go ahead with the advice of using them entirely as a subsidiary role.
As for the requested links, if patience will hold, I'll round them up later this evening. I posted my question with the belief that with said input, I would put the link up a few weeks to a month from now (A meticulous planner or lazy bum, I'm not sure which I am).
posted by Atreides at 2:19 PM on February 6, 2006
I deny nothing, but identity theft. < /bad joke>
First, let me thank everyone for offering their advice. This was certainly the type of discussion I was hoping to generate in regards for my search for answers to my questions.
In reference to the Wikipedia articles, three would be articles I exclusively added to the site (but not with plans of a MeFi link in the future). A fourth article is one I've assisted in. I'm inclined to go ahead with the advice of using them entirely as a subsidiary role.
As for the requested links, if patience will hold, I'll round them up later this evening. I posted my question with the belief that with said input, I would put the link up a few weeks to a month from now (A meticulous planner or lazy bum, I'm not sure which I am).
posted by Atreides at 2:19 PM on February 6, 2006
Damn, man, what's the "obscure topic," at least? Don't leave us hanging for a month...
posted by mediareport at 2:42 PM on February 6, 2006
posted by mediareport at 2:42 PM on February 6, 2006
Self links have always been allowed in comments, if they're relevant.
posted by knave at 2:52 PM on February 6, 2006
posted by knave at 2:52 PM on February 6, 2006
While I should play up the anticipation, the topic in general is the United States Army Observation Group to Yenan. Better known as the "Dixie Mission," you'll probably hit up many of the links I plan on using with a Google search. There's a stub of an article at Wikipeida, which will also pop up. The main members of the mission that I'd highlight, would be John S. Service, and John Paton Davies, Jr.
Depending on the energies of the people following this thread, I'll follow up tonight with the links (for those who don't feel up to googling, etc).
posted by Atreides at 3:07 PM on February 6, 2006
Depending on the energies of the people following this thread, I'll follow up tonight with the links (for those who don't feel up to googling, etc).
posted by Atreides at 3:07 PM on February 6, 2006
Thanks. Yeah, I'd like to see the links, esp. the ones you wrote. It's really hard to understand your post without them, Atreides.
posted by mediareport at 6:35 PM on February 6, 2006
posted by mediareport at 6:35 PM on February 6, 2006
Seems like the question is answered but couldn't he look on his user pager for a Contact to post it for him?
posted by geekyguy at 7:02 PM on February 6, 2006
posted by geekyguy at 7:02 PM on February 6, 2006
Oh, man, you just totally fell into mediareport's trap. I foresee a Dixie Mission post in his future.
posted by graventy at 7:20 PM on February 6, 2006
posted by graventy at 7:20 PM on February 6, 2006
Trap or not, I'd be happy just to see the information out there. The Dixie Mission is currently the subject of my graduate work, one reason for such is that I feel its an intriguing and interesting topic that should have a more well known reputation.
'Sides, if someone did do a post, I can just follow up and blow 'em out of the water with my own stuff. Countless hours of research and writing add up to something...I hope.
posted by Atreides at 9:06 PM on February 6, 2006
'Sides, if someone did do a post, I can just follow up and blow 'em out of the water with my own stuff. Countless hours of research and writing add up to something...I hope.
posted by Atreides at 9:06 PM on February 6, 2006
Aw, graventy, that'd just be mean. But seriously, this question should have been something like, "Hey, I wanna do a post about the Dixie Mission, a pretty obscure subject. Would it be ok if I included in the post these x links to Wikipedia articles that I wrote, or would that count as self-promotion?"
Assuming one of Atreides' links is this one, we could have then answered, "Well, that's pretty slim, isn't it? Would it really be necessary to include it?
Etc.
posted by mediareport at 7:44 AM on February 7, 2006
Assuming one of Atreides' links is this one, we could have then answered, "Well, that's pretty slim, isn't it? Would it really be necessary to include it?
Etc.
posted by mediareport at 7:44 AM on February 7, 2006
Not that you asked, but this is as good a time as any to say this: I find Wikipedia links in FPPs to be mostly useless noise / filler. As mendel said, we can go to Wikipedia for more info if we want, and the inclusion of these links (which may or may not, at the time of clicking, look the same as they did when originally linked) usually comes across as padding.
In fact, linking to Wikipedia articles you've written seems to me like the only good reason for doing this. But yeah, still, it shouldn't be done in the main FPP.
posted by soyjoy at 7:52 AM on February 7, 2006
In fact, linking to Wikipedia articles you've written seems to me like the only good reason for doing this. But yeah, still, it shouldn't be done in the main FPP.
posted by soyjoy at 7:52 AM on February 7, 2006
A Ronald McDonald wannabe, a Jeffrey Zeldman and a Geoffrey Chaucer. These all add up to ??
posted by Cranberry at 10:01 PM on February 26, 2006
posted by Cranberry at 10:01 PM on February 26, 2006
Good morning to you, good morning to you. You look like a walrus and you smell like one too!
posted by OmieWise at 7:19 AM on February 27, 2006
posted by OmieWise at 7:19 AM on February 27, 2006
Ok, fine. Don't listen to me. I just hope Don isn't our waiter at the big meetup in hell. They make beer out of spit there, you know. I hate to drink of what he'll do to make it worse.
posted by If I Had An Anus at 9:35 AM on February 27, 2006
posted by If I Had An Anus at 9:35 AM on February 27, 2006
Ok, whose site is that?
J.R. Trimpe serves as both arranger and visual designer for the Bloomington High School Marching . A graduate of Michigan State University and the University of Illinois, J.R. has arranged music and coordinated shows for high school and college marching bands throughout the country. Mr. also has extensive winter guard experience with programs throughout Michigan and the Midwest, providing soundtracks and visual design to groups such as Interplay, Reeths-Puffer, Epiphany of Lakeland, and many more.
He currently resides in Wyoming, Michigan.
posted by If I Had An Anus at 9:41 AM on February 27, 2006
J.R. Trimpe serves as both arranger and visual designer for the Bloomington High School Marching . A graduate of Michigan State University and the University of Illinois, J.R. has arranged music and coordinated shows for high school and college marching bands throughout the country. Mr. also has extensive winter guard experience with programs throughout Michigan and the Midwest, providing soundtracks and visual design to groups such as Interplay, Reeths-Puffer, Epiphany of Lakeland, and many more.
He currently resides in Wyoming, Michigan.
posted by If I Had An Anus at 9:41 AM on February 27, 2006
Dorothy and the gang head for Seattle - the Emerald City.
(The Wizard of Windoz has an enormous house nearby, and a campus full of geeks and nerds in Redmond.)
Coincidence: Boeing has a plant in the area and one in Wichita, Kansas - unless they laid off everybody. Shall we ask for a tour?
The superintendant of what must be a very small school district talks about it while showing mini-pictures.
What is an extensive winter guard experience?
Does any one else smell something? Kind of a fishy-watery smell?
posted by Cranberry at 11:17 AM on February 27, 2006
(The Wizard of Windoz has an enormous house nearby, and a campus full of geeks and nerds in Redmond.)
Coincidence: Boeing has a plant in the area and one in Wichita, Kansas - unless they laid off everybody. Shall we ask for a tour?
The superintendant of what must be a very small school district talks about it while showing mini-pictures.
What is an extensive winter guard experience?
Does any one else smell something? Kind of a fishy-watery smell?
posted by Cranberry at 11:17 AM on February 27, 2006
Eggman reporting for duty.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 11:24 AM on February 27, 2006
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 11:24 AM on February 27, 2006
gnfti, Hanolite™ Birdwalk Publishers need you! Your English is much better than the site you linked to concerning the officials rapping about marijuana use/sale.
posted by Cranberry at 9:11 PM on February 27, 2006
posted by Cranberry at 9:11 PM on February 27, 2006
Thank you. Now quit flattering me and get with the personal anecdotes, people! This thread is meant for them!
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 11:10 AM on February 28, 2006
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 11:10 AM on February 28, 2006
There was a picture of one of my patients in a recent post by IIHAA. I can tell you since there were literally hundreds of people pictured, so you'll never know who I mean.
posted by OmieWise at 11:19 AM on February 28, 2006
posted by OmieWise at 11:19 AM on February 28, 2006
But my favorite recent pt interaction went like this:
PT: I'm a health nut, a health nut!
ME: Oh?
PT: Yeah, I mean, I take care of myself. I can be out all night, getting high as shit [on heroin] and if I feel something wrong, I'm going to the doctor. I don't care, I'm gonna go to the doctor. My friends say, "Your gonna waste that high on going to the doctor?" Fuck yeah: 'cause I'm a health nut.
[pause]
ME: It's good to take care of yourself.
posted by OmieWise at 11:22 AM on February 28, 2006
PT: I'm a health nut, a health nut!
ME: Oh?
PT: Yeah, I mean, I take care of myself. I can be out all night, getting high as shit [on heroin] and if I feel something wrong, I'm going to the doctor. I don't care, I'm gonna go to the doctor. My friends say, "Your gonna waste that high on going to the doctor?" Fuck yeah: 'cause I'm a health nut.
[pause]
ME: It's good to take care of yourself.
posted by OmieWise at 11:22 AM on February 28, 2006
Personal anecdotes?
Unlike OmieWise, I have nopatience stomps little foot, patients, but I do have helpful friends.
Most exciting event so far today was replying with a Snopes hoax link to a helpful friend who kindly alerted me to the "Olympic virus".
Oh, and it is raining.
posted by Cranberry at 11:38 AM on February 28, 2006
Unlike OmieWise, I have no
Most exciting event so far today was replying with a Snopes hoax link to a helpful friend who kindly alerted me to the "Olympic virus".
Oh, and it is raining.
posted by Cranberry at 11:38 AM on February 28, 2006
I kinda hate to say it, but you should post that (great) anecdote to MetaChat, Omie. Maybe here.
posted by If I Had An Anus at 11:52 AM on February 28, 2006
posted by If I Had An Anus at 11:52 AM on February 28, 2006
The kind of photo from DC that just seems to capture the whole thing:
posted by OmieWise at 12:23 PM on February 28, 2006
posted by OmieWise at 12:23 PM on February 28, 2006
Wow, orificeless one, I never knew you were a scientist! This surely must be your Anus Mirabilis.
By the way, your blackboard creation makes me want to hum
"c e f# a | g e c A | F# F# F# G | F# F# F# G Bb | etc"
(uppercase letters indicating notes below initial c)
And if that's not a compliment, I don't know what is.
I'll disregard the scribblings near the lower edge of the blackboard, thank you very much.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 5:53 PM on February 28, 2006
By the way, your blackboard creation makes me want to hum
"c e f# a | g e c A | F# F# F# G | F# F# F# G Bb | etc"
(uppercase letters indicating notes below initial c)
And if that's not a compliment, I don't know what is.
I'll disregard the scribblings near the lower edge of the blackboard, thank you very much.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 5:53 PM on February 28, 2006
By the way:
Your English is much better than the site you linked to
Remember what I told you all about not flattering me? That was, what, seven hours ago? Well, here's non-nativeness in action:
I just made a post, and after re-reading shit a gazillion times and clicking the irrevokable Post button, I realized I had said "the pluriform ways in which". "Pluriform!" It's not a word! In English! I had to look it up to believe it, but come on, it has commonly recognized Latin roots, you can glean the meaning from context - but still, it's not a word. I made a Netherlandicism. Laugh at me, please. I was forced to email her Jessamyn-ness to save whatever face I had left. She changed it. Into what I intended to mean. Meant to intend.
"Manifold".
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 6:38 PM on February 28, 2006
Your English is much better than the site you linked to
Remember what I told you all about not flattering me? That was, what, seven hours ago? Well, here's non-nativeness in action:
I just made a post, and after re-reading shit a gazillion times and clicking the irrevokable Post button, I realized I had said "the pluriform ways in which". "Pluriform!" It's not a word! In English! I had to look it up to believe it, but come on, it has commonly recognized Latin roots, you can glean the meaning from context - but still, it's not a word. I made a Netherlandicism. Laugh at me, please. I was forced to email her Jessamyn-ness to save whatever face I had left. She changed it. Into what I intended to mean. Meant to intend.
"Manifold".
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 6:38 PM on February 28, 2006
I don't know what you're worried about, gnfti; pluriform is a perfectly cromulent word.
posted by Nice Donkey at 8:04 PM on February 28, 2006
posted by Nice Donkey at 8:04 PM on February 28, 2006
Before I clicked Nice Donkey's link, I intended to say, "Congratulations, gnfti, you have created a neologism". The comment is superfluous because he knows that now.
So, I have nothing to say, and I have said it.
posted by Cranberry at 10:24 PM on February 28, 2006
So, I have nothing to say, and I have said it.
posted by Cranberry at 10:24 PM on February 28, 2006
"The zeitgeisty meta-irony"? Enough already with the neologisms gnfti.
posted by Cranberry at 11:18 PM on February 28, 2006
posted by Cranberry at 11:18 PM on February 28, 2006
Don't be a hater, Cran. He used the batshitinane tag. That's English fluency in action!
posted by OmieWise at 6:36 AM on March 1, 2006
posted by OmieWise at 6:36 AM on March 1, 2006
Anyway, it's now been added by others to the MeTa post, I see, after reading down.
posted by OmieWise at 6:57 AM on March 1, 2006
posted by OmieWise at 6:57 AM on March 1, 2006
Yes, I meant the Jim Jones episode, thanks! No need for retrepanation, I kind of misremembered it myself (forgot that he kept talking to himself in the comments).
By the way, Omie (we're on a first-name basis now, aren't we? You can call me goodie), do you say "patient" even in front of patients themselves, or in official communication? I myself dabble in the subgenre of psych that deals with patients the least compared to the other departments; and even we are semi-traumatised from constantly being reminded of having to say "client" instead of "patient".
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 7:54 AM on March 1, 2006
By the way, Omie (we're on a first-name basis now, aren't we? You can call me goodie), do you say "patient" even in front of patients themselves, or in official communication? I myself dabble in the subgenre of psych that deals with patients the least compared to the other departments; and even we are semi-traumatised from constantly being reminded of having to say "client" instead of "patient".
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 7:54 AM on March 1, 2006
goodie-I do say patient even in front of patients. I'm not a big fan of client as a term, I think it misrepresents the relationship, so I use patient when I talk about private practice and everything else. I think customers for psychotherapy are closer to medical patients than to lawyer's clients. In my case, though, I work in a medical setting where everyone is always already a patient.
posted by OmieWise at 8:03 AM on March 1, 2006
posted by OmieWise at 8:03 AM on March 1, 2006
I guess you're right, Omie - I suppose I'm just surrounded by rabid pc warriors.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 9:45 AM on March 1, 2006
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 9:45 AM on March 1, 2006
So right, raedyn. Where do you shop? I have been looking for a tiara with emeralds to wear on March 17.
posted by Cranberry at 12:42 PM on March 1, 2006
posted by Cranberry at 12:42 PM on March 1, 2006
200603021355 VIKINT 9622V2
LONGBOAT EYES ONLY
AGITPROP OPERATION 'ORNITHAL LIMBO' HAS FAILED. REMAINING ACTIONS ORDERED ABANDONED FORTHWITH. WE HAVE HOWEVER RECEIVED WORD THAT THE LONGBOAT ORGANISATION IS CLEARED FROM ZIONIST INFLUENCES.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 6:01 AM on March 2, 2006
LONGBOAT EYES ONLY
AGITPROP OPERATION 'ORNITHAL LIMBO' HAS FAILED. REMAINING ACTIONS ORDERED ABANDONED FORTHWITH. WE HAVE HOWEVER RECEIVED WORD THAT THE LONGBOAT ORGANISATION IS CLEARED FROM ZIONIST INFLUENCES.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 6:01 AM on March 2, 2006
Does the failure of operation 'ornithal limbo' mean that OmieWise has decided not to be Jewish after all?
posted by Cranberry at 11:20 AM on March 2, 2006
posted by Cranberry at 11:20 AM on March 2, 2006
No, it means some bird is probably going to hell.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 12:07 PM on March 2, 2006
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 12:07 PM on March 2, 2006
What about Operation Samizdat Punk Rock
Oh, that has succeeded, and still continues to succeed, every single day.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 12:14 PM on March 2, 2006
Oh, that has succeeded, and still continues to succeed, every single day.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 12:14 PM on March 2, 2006
It couldn't possibly mean that since Limbo officially no longer exists and Jewish birds taste like zeh chicken.
Every limbo boy and girl
All around the limbo world
Gonna do the limbo rock
All around the limbo clock
Jack be limbo, Jack be quick
Jack go unda limbo stick
All around the limbo clock
Hey, let's do the limbo rock
Limbo lower now
Limbo lower now
How low can you go
First you spread your limbo feet
Then you move to limbo beat
Limbo ankolimboneee,
Bend back like a limbo tree
Jack be limbo, Jack be quick
Jack go unda limbo stick
All around the limbo clock
Hey, let's do the limbo rock
la la la
Get yourself a limbo girl
Give that chic a limbo whirl
There's a limbo moon above
You will fall in limbo love
Jack be limbo, Jack be quick
Jack go unda limbo stick
All around the limbo clock
Hey, let's do the limbo rock
Don't move that limbo bar
You'll be a limbo star
How low can you go
posted by If I Had An Anus at 12:22 PM on March 2, 2006
Every limbo boy and girl
All around the limbo world
Gonna do the limbo rock
All around the limbo clock
Jack be limbo, Jack be quick
Jack go unda limbo stick
All around the limbo clock
Hey, let's do the limbo rock
Limbo lower now
Limbo lower now
How low can you go
First you spread your limbo feet
Then you move to limbo beat
Limbo ankolimboneee,
Bend back like a limbo tree
Jack be limbo, Jack be quick
Jack go unda limbo stick
All around the limbo clock
Hey, let's do the limbo rock
la la la
Get yourself a limbo girl
Give that chic a limbo whirl
There's a limbo moon above
You will fall in limbo love
Jack be limbo, Jack be quick
Jack go unda limbo stick
All around the limbo clock
Hey, let's do the limbo rock
Don't move that limbo bar
You'll be a limbo star
How low can you go
posted by If I Had An Anus at 12:22 PM on March 2, 2006
1) No UPG is allowed to contradict known facts about the associated culture and stand as more than a modern invention. It is also probably useless unless you don't care for accuracy.
2) If a UPG does not contradict known facts but cannot be verified within the same body of knowledge, it remains a modern invention. This does not mean it is useless.
3) If a UPG turns out to fit a gap in known tradition in a fashion that does not activate the first law, it is worth pursuing further.
4) If a UPG that meets the second or third law is arrived at by people who have had no real contact with each other, it remains modern but is Shared. This means the group just may be getting somewhere interesting.
5) If a UPG becomes a SPG and said SPG is adopted outside of the groups who first thought of it, it becomes a modern tradition.
6) There is no way for a UPG to become Ancient Lore unless it is kept mostly intact for at least 1,000 years.
posted by If I Had An Anus at 1:55 PM on March 2, 2006
2) If a UPG does not contradict known facts but cannot be verified within the same body of knowledge, it remains a modern invention. This does not mean it is useless.
3) If a UPG turns out to fit a gap in known tradition in a fashion that does not activate the first law, it is worth pursuing further.
4) If a UPG that meets the second or third law is arrived at by people who have had no real contact with each other, it remains modern but is Shared. This means the group just may be getting somewhere interesting.
5) If a UPG becomes a SPG and said SPG is adopted outside of the groups who first thought of it, it becomes a modern tradition.
6) There is no way for a UPG to become Ancient Lore unless it is kept mostly intact for at least 1,000 years.
posted by If I Had An Anus at 1:55 PM on March 2, 2006
So gnosis explains how orthogonality knew who is Jewish?
posted by Cranberry at 10:19 PM on March 2, 2006
posted by Cranberry at 10:19 PM on March 2, 2006
Well, this is all about gnosis, and pictures two Jews. You do the math:
posted by OmieWise at 11:25 AM on March 3, 2006
posted by OmieWise at 11:25 AM on March 3, 2006
You do the math
Crap, with kenko AWOL and gram merely poppin' in now and again to save the thread, I thought we had ditched the math geeks. I see now that they've only installed one of their own in their place.
posted by If I Had An Anus at 12:27 PM on March 3, 2006
Crap, with kenko AWOL and gram merely poppin' in now and again to save the thread, I thought we had ditched the math geeks. I see now that they've only installed one of their own in their place.
posted by If I Had An Anus at 12:27 PM on March 3, 2006
Um, is math how orthogonality knows who is Jewish? Is gnosis how IIHAA knows who is a math geek?
posted by Cranberry at 1:44 PM on March 3, 2006
posted by Cranberry at 1:44 PM on March 3, 2006
1 out of 33536 Meh-fites agrees: SMOKING KILLS THREADS
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 10:18 AM on March 4, 2006
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 10:18 AM on March 4, 2006
raedyn is very good at it, I have had the honor, now you, gnfti, have done it. Is it natural selection? Do longboaters excel at threadkilling? Or do threadkillers gravitate to long boat threads?
posted by Cranberry at 11:16 AM on March 4, 2006
posted by Cranberry at 11:16 AM on March 4, 2006
I know it is the weekend, when all the Metas are lightly populated, but there is an issue that requires your attention. We are about to be closed out here, probably tomorrow. Shall we throw our things into shopping carts and roll over to 11341?
posted by Cranberry at 11:48 AM on March 5, 2006
posted by Cranberry at 11:48 AM on March 5, 2006
If you are at a loss for a shopping cart, boo_radley's post in the blue about trolley-spotting might be helpful. Strongly suggest using what is classed as a false trolley.
posted by Cranberry at 11:56 AM on March 5, 2006
posted by Cranberry at 11:56 AM on March 5, 2006
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