Who is going to one of the Truth About Iraq Parties tomorrow? December 6, 2003 7:37 PM Subscribe
Who is going to one of the Truth About Iraq Parties tomorrow? Include which one you will be at!
I'll be at work. :(
posted by mr_crash_davis at 7:45 PM on December 6, 2003
posted by mr_crash_davis at 7:45 PM on December 6, 2003
Is there something to celebrate?
posted by PrinceValium at 8:25 PM on December 6, 2003
posted by PrinceValium at 8:25 PM on December 6, 2003
I'm actually riding the torrent at the moment. Will be watching it within the hour. No parties here, until it gets subtitled in Korean.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 8:50 PM on December 6, 2003
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 8:50 PM on December 6, 2003
Im watching it now. Surprisingly, its not terribly biased. Of course, all things in life are biased but the arguments in the movie have the facts lined up correctly. Surprised.
"Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels." -Mel Goodman, 20 year CIA Analyst
posted by Keyser Soze at 9:27 PM on December 6, 2003
"Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels." -Mel Goodman, 20 year CIA Analyst
posted by Keyser Soze at 9:27 PM on December 6, 2003
Understand that the quote mentioned above isnt calling people who are patriotic scoundrels. He was explaining that using patriotism to promote something that is not right or infringes upon innocent people or the constitution is for scoundrels.
posted by Keyser Soze at 9:53 PM on December 6, 2003
posted by Keyser Soze at 9:53 PM on December 6, 2003
Understand that the quote mentioned above isnt calling people who are patriotic scoundrels. He was explaining that using patriotism to promote something that is not right or infringes upon innocent people or the constitution is for scoundrels.
You don't say?
posted by The God Complex at 10:08 PM on December 6, 2003
You don't say?
posted by The God Complex at 10:08 PM on December 6, 2003
OK, Keyser, as long as you understand that the quote mentioned above was attributed to Samuel Johnson by his biographer, James Boswell, over 200 years ago. ;)
posted by MiguelCardoso at 10:15 PM on December 6, 2003
posted by MiguelCardoso at 10:15 PM on December 6, 2003
Now we know the answer to the question of how to handle updates: start a MeTalk post.
;-P
posted by mischief at 10:24 PM on December 6, 2003
;-P
posted by mischief at 10:24 PM on December 6, 2003
OK, Keyser, as long as you understand that the quote mentioned above was attributed to Samuel Johnson by his biographer, James Boswell, over 200 years ago. ;)
Oh snap!
posted by The God Complex at 10:42 PM on December 6, 2003
Oh snap!
posted by The God Complex at 10:42 PM on December 6, 2003
Keyser:
Can I borrow your Truth About Iraq DVD?
posted by Ignatius J. Reilly at 10:47 PM on December 6, 2003
Can I borrow your Truth About Iraq DVD?
posted by Ignatius J. Reilly at 10:47 PM on December 6, 2003
Well, you should download it like I did instead. Thanks for the history lesson Miguel.
posted by Keyser Soze at 1:10 AM on December 7, 2003
posted by Keyser Soze at 1:10 AM on December 7, 2003
It kind of feels odd that im the only one going.
posted by Keyser Soze at 1:12 AM on December 7, 2003
posted by Keyser Soze at 1:12 AM on December 7, 2003
It tells me that most metafilterans work on sunday.
posted by Keyser Soze at 1:48 AM on December 7, 2003
posted by Keyser Soze at 1:48 AM on December 7, 2003
I'm going to try to hit sublounge in sf tomorrow (4pm) to watch it.
posted by eddydamascene at 4:25 AM on December 7, 2003
posted by eddydamascene at 4:25 AM on December 7, 2003
PATRIOTISM, n.
Combustible rubbish read to the torch of any one ambitious to illuminate his name.
In Dr. Johnson's famous dictionary patriotism is defined as the last resort of a scoundrel. With all due respect to an enlightened but inferior lexicographer I beg to submit that it is the first.
posted by BigCalm at 4:35 AM on December 7, 2003
Combustible rubbish read to the torch of any one ambitious to illuminate his name.
In Dr. Johnson's famous dictionary patriotism is defined as the last resort of a scoundrel. With all due respect to an enlightened but inferior lexicographer I beg to submit that it is the first.
posted by BigCalm at 4:35 AM on December 7, 2003
Chicago over at Healing Earths off Ashland. I downloaded it off of eMule and watched the first few minutes and just the collection of experts they have and their backgrounds is pretty impressive. I'll probably buy the DVD in support if I like it.
posted by ao4047 at 6:37 AM on December 7, 2003
posted by ao4047 at 6:37 AM on December 7, 2003
I'd be going if there was one in my area. I didn't hear about this until the Metafilter post. I think this does say something: it wasn't terribly well advertised.
posted by substrate at 8:23 AM on December 7, 2003
posted by substrate at 8:23 AM on December 7, 2003
Despite the fact that there isn't an available location within 40 miles, the whole thing seems kinda like an Amway party to me. That, or I'd spend more time internally critiquing the host's interior design sensibilities than watching the documentary. Thank god for bittorrent.
posted by machaus at 10:43 AM on December 7, 2003
posted by machaus at 10:43 AM on December 7, 2003
I'll go to one as long as I get back in time from bringing my father home from the hospital. The blizzard's messed up the schedule a bit.
posted by troutfishing at 10:56 AM on December 7, 2003
posted by troutfishing at 10:56 AM on December 7, 2003
Include which one you will be at!
Ending a sentence with a preposition is a no-no. It should be "Include which one at which you will be".
posted by DrJohnEvans at 11:21 AM on December 7, 2003
Ending a sentence with a preposition is a no-no. It should be "Include which one at which you will be".
posted by DrJohnEvans at 11:21 AM on December 7, 2003
How about "Include which one you'll be going to" ?
All of the ones near me were full, so I've downloaded it, and am seeding for other people..haven't watched it yet.
posted by amberglow at 11:42 AM on December 7, 2003
All of the ones near me were full, so I've downloaded it, and am seeding for other people..haven't watched it yet.
posted by amberglow at 11:42 AM on December 7, 2003
DJE: that is the sort of English up with which I will not put.
posted by i_am_joe's_spleen at 1:15 PM on December 7, 2003
posted by i_am_joe's_spleen at 1:15 PM on December 7, 2003
The Southampton, UK party, (7 participants), has just finished watching. A very well structured and persuasive programme. I hope the US parties aren't just a one-night wonder, preaching only to the already converted.
posted by punilux at 1:23 PM on December 7, 2003
posted by punilux at 1:23 PM on December 7, 2003
Ok, I can't take it any longer, what is the truth about Iraq? And can someone remind me who shot J.R.?
posted by anathema at 1:44 PM on December 7, 2003
posted by anathema at 1:44 PM on December 7, 2003
It was all a dream, you'll find the Weapons of Mass Destruction in the shower.
posted by Stan Chin at 2:00 PM on December 7, 2003
posted by Stan Chin at 2:00 PM on December 7, 2003
I'll never look at a bottle of Prell the same way again.
posted by anathema at 2:06 PM on December 7, 2003
posted by anathema at 2:06 PM on December 7, 2003
The Last Samurai isn't really all that bad actually... little Hollywoody at the end, but that's certainly to be expected.
posted by Witty at 2:08 PM on December 7, 2003
posted by Witty at 2:08 PM on December 7, 2003
meanwhile, i'm on my 7th seagal movie of the weekend. who IS this guy, the david hasselhoff of low-budget shoot-em-ups?
posted by quonsar at 2:12 PM on December 7, 2003
posted by quonsar at 2:12 PM on December 7, 2003
DJE: that is the sort of English up with which I will not put.
Should be "up with with I shall not put".
Sorry, couldn't resist!
posted by DrJohnEvans at 2:17 PM on December 7, 2003
Should be "up with with I shall not put".
Sorry, couldn't resist!
posted by DrJohnEvans at 2:17 PM on December 7, 2003
Oooooh, dammit. Too eager. Second "with" should, of course, be "which". Caught it just as I hit Post.
posted by DrJohnEvans at 2:18 PM on December 7, 2003
posted by DrJohnEvans at 2:18 PM on December 7, 2003
meanwhile, i'm on my 7th seagal movie of the weekend. who IS this guy, the david hasselhoff of low-budget shoot-em-ups?
He's a reincarnated tulku, so don't fuck with him or he'll beat you to death and you'll be reincarnated as a bug.
posted by homunculus at 2:57 PM on December 7, 2003
He's a reincarnated tulku, so don't fuck with him or he'll beat you to death and you'll be reincarnated as a bug.
posted by homunculus at 2:57 PM on December 7, 2003
If anyone needs me, i'll be quietly sobbing in my pabst blue ribbon.
posted by Keyser Soze at 3:06 PM on December 7, 2003
posted by Keyser Soze at 3:06 PM on December 7, 2003
Ending a sentence with a preposition is a no-no.
Actually, no it's not. This is a common myth.
posted by languagehat at 3:07 PM on December 7, 2003
Actually, no it's not. This is a common myth.
posted by languagehat at 3:07 PM on December 7, 2003
hmmm
and i thought the last resort of scoundrels was telemarketing.
posted by clavdivs at 3:31 PM on December 7, 2003
and i thought the last resort of scoundrels was telemarketing.
posted by clavdivs at 3:31 PM on December 7, 2003
Damn you, languagehat. One day I shall get the better of you. One day.
posted by DrJohnEvans at 4:10 PM on December 7, 2003
posted by DrJohnEvans at 4:10 PM on December 7, 2003
Include which one at which you will be": double which : "Include the one at which you will be."
posted by mischief at 4:40 PM on December 7, 2003
posted by mischief at 4:40 PM on December 7, 2003
That did occur to me, I must admit, but there's a distinct relationship between how many times "which" is repeated in a sentence and how funny the sentence sounds, so I left it in.
posted by DrJohnEvans at 5:07 PM on December 7, 2003
posted by DrJohnEvans at 5:07 PM on December 7, 2003
Saw the flic tonight @ a party in Oregon. And it really was a party - it was fun seeing the room get into it and howl at every Bush quote and cheer at every anti-neocon comment. Thank God for Metafilter: I actually am writing the story right now for Monday's newspaper here in Klamath Falls ... and I would have had no idea a local party was happening without that info. Small quibble about the film (for Keyser, seeing as he's the only one of you who has seen it at one of these parties): What was up with that British expert? It's like the filmmakers just stuck her in there so it had "international" perspective. Good grief, she only gets one soundbyte, hardly enough to make me understand why they traveled across an ocean just to give her some face time.
posted by Happydaz at 11:53 PM on December 7, 2003
posted by Happydaz at 11:53 PM on December 7, 2003
I agree that it is somewhat of a weak area in the film, but what surprised me was that there were few weak points in its entirety.
The anti-neocon disses may blow some conservative minded folks off, but there is some very solid evidence in favor of the CIA representatives comments. I think that if a hardcore republican saw this film they would probably still disagree, but may not be able to protect some of the key points our president implied during the start of the war.
The fact is, there are CIA representatives that have worked for the government 20 years talking about proof and information they personally handled. The Truth About Iraq(r) was very well done as a whole, and I am glad I had the oppourtunity to view it.
posted by Keyser Soze at 12:22 AM on December 8, 2003
The anti-neocon disses may blow some conservative minded folks off, but there is some very solid evidence in favor of the CIA representatives comments. I think that if a hardcore republican saw this film they would probably still disagree, but may not be able to protect some of the key points our president implied during the start of the war.
The fact is, there are CIA representatives that have worked for the government 20 years talking about proof and information they personally handled. The Truth About Iraq(r) was very well done as a whole, and I am glad I had the oppourtunity to view it.
posted by Keyser Soze at 12:22 AM on December 8, 2003
Phew! So I thought you guys might be interested in my take on the whole party thing, since I had to write about it for my 9-5 job. (Self link, sort of, but I think it's relevant.)
Here's the article.
posted by Happydaz at 2:03 PM on December 8, 2003
Here's the article.
posted by Happydaz at 2:03 PM on December 8, 2003
I saw the thing in Eugene, OR. Was a pretty good time, though the room was crowded as hell. And the movie was pretty good; excellent to see the piles of misinformation collected in one place.
posted by kaibutsu at 3:18 PM on December 9, 2003
posted by kaibutsu at 3:18 PM on December 9, 2003
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posted by Keyser Soze at 7:37 PM on December 6, 2003