I switched over to Apache, so some stuff might not be working

June 10, 2004 12:46 AM

I switched over to Apache, so some stuff might not be working (like spellcheck). If you find any bugs with MetaFilter, MetaTalk, Ask MetaFilter, or any other site that used to be on this server, let me know here.
posted by mathowie (staff) to MetaFilter-Related at 12:46 AM (56 comments total)

weird spellcheck works in metatalk just fine.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 12:47 AM on June 10, 2004

w00t! All of Europe thanks you, Matt :)
posted by adrianhon at 12:48 AM on June 10, 2004

The Bold, Italics and Link options in Meef don't seem to work, old bean.

Now that I notice, they fail in Meet too.

Ditto the Green.
posted by Dagobert at 12:49 AM on June 10, 2004

pages seem a little snappier.
posted by rhyax at 12:56 AM on June 10, 2004

test

keystrokes and spelling should work everywhere now.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 1:02 AM on June 10, 2004

Oh, I'm having trouble getting perl to play right with apache and activestate. If anyone's an expert in apache on windows and has run perl and stuff like MT before, can you email me? I can't blog anything on my personal site until I fix it, as foo.cgi files are being served up as text right now and not being parsed by the server.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 1:30 AM on June 10, 2004

Reverts to http://www.metafilter.com/ as homepage again...

all digits crossed...
posted by dash_slot- at 1:53 AM on June 10, 2004

When I search for a MetaTalk thread, and click on the results, the thread does not load. It looks like the URL it's trying to load (for example) is this:

http://metatalk.metafilter.com/metadetail.mefi/7605

Brief Description:

"Invalid list index 2.

In function ListGetAt(list, index [, delimiters]), the value of index, 2, is not a valid as the first argument (this list has 1 elements). Valid indexes are in the range 1 through the number of elements in the list. "

If I check by my username and pull the link from there, the thread loads splendidly. I can send you a screenshot and/or paste the full error code if you'd like.
posted by christian at 2:59 AM on June 10, 2004

Something strange has happened to the RSS feeds: the old URL now feeds me Ask Metafilter instead of the main page, and the XML button on the front page now seems to be an XML file for the sidebar?
posted by bclark at 3:26 AM on June 10, 2004

The site feels so speedy.
posted by riffola at 3:45 AM on June 10, 2004

Ditto on the RSS bug. I get nothing for the old blue RSS feed...
This: http://xml.metafilter.com/rss.xml appears to be the sidebar.
posted by humuhumu at 3:53 AM on June 10, 2004

Ah, that's why AskMeFi showed up twice in Bloglines today.
posted by yerfatma at 4:09 AM on June 10, 2004

hey matt... if you haven't fixed the cgi thing, try this
posted by crunchland at 5:07 AM on June 10, 2004

Wow, the site is really snappy. Thanks Matt!
posted by substrate at 6:00 AM on June 10, 2004

Matt, the only way I've been able to get Movable Type to work on a Windows server, was to change the file extentions from cgi to pl. Then again, that's using IIS.
posted by mkelley at 7:43 AM on June 10, 2004

As an FYI a.wholelottanothing.org is stuck in March of last year...
posted by togdon at 8:03 AM on June 10, 2004

From where I'm sitting on the West Coast, the site seems much faster. (Hopefully it'll be more stable too...)

Yay, Matt!
posted by Asparagirl at 8:10 AM on June 10, 2004

Site feels about twice as fast. Zoom!
posted by Voivod at 8:22 AM on June 10, 2004

I can't find that JRun page I used to get all the time :)

Seriously, thanks
posted by trondant at 8:48 AM on June 10, 2004

My site is back, rss should be back.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 9:01 AM on June 10, 2004

Matt, the only way I've been able to get Movable Type to work on a Windows server, was to change the file extentions from cgi to pl. Then again, that's using IIS.

No, you can change the server mappings to run .cgi files with Perl, assuming you have administrative access. On IIS or Apache. Although on Unix, you don't need to; the system knows to look inside the script for the shebang line and run the script with the specified engine.
posted by kindall at 9:09 AM on June 10, 2004

Currently the RSS URL seems to be pointing to the HTML MeFi front page.
posted by adamrice at 9:27 AM on June 10, 2004

Is is just me or is MeFi extremely slow right now?
posted by AstroGuy at 9:55 AM on June 10, 2004

It does seem slow, not at all like it was when Apache was on port 8080. I'm guessing Matt is still working on the configuration.
posted by tommasz at 10:08 AM on June 10, 2004

slow. and jrun errors.

[opininionated bastage mode]
see the problem with mefi is all this sappy shit hung on it - like the speil chucker and the link/bold/italic crap. the latter is just extraneous fenestration that only serves to dumb down the posting membership, instead of encouraging people to learn how to make proper <a>, <b>, <i> tags, something people should be taught in 4th grade (they could replace dodgeball or something). the speil chucker would be rendered moot if only he'd code something USEFUL, like the ability to go back in and edit a post or comment you have made. in this respect, mefi is much like the bush administration. lottsa shiny stuff to keep your mind off the atrocities. :-)
[/obm]
posted by quonsar at 10:22 AM on June 10, 2004

I like how the meta menus are green.
posted by wobh at 10:24 AM on June 10, 2004

I think the one on :8080 was used a lot less heavily.

Are you using 1.3 or 2 Matt? If the former, you could try upping the number of threads used.
posted by fvw at 10:25 AM on June 10, 2004

Ah, 2.0.49. Forget I said anything.
posted by fvw at 10:26 AM on June 10, 2004

Oh, it goes for 2.x too. set ThreadsPerChild to something higher than the default (50).

Ooh, I just got a jrun error:
Server Error
The server encountered an internal error and was unable to complete your request.

JRun closed conne
posted by fvw at 10:30 AM on June 10, 2004

ction.
posted by fvw at 10:30 AM on June 10, 2004

at the very least, i think the bold, italic and link buttons ought to be replaced with "Asshat", "This X, it vibrates?", and "Get your own blog, fucker" buttons.
posted by quonsar at 10:36 AM on June 10, 2004

Maybe it will run faster if we delete the inactive users.
posted by kaibutsu at 10:37 AM on June 10, 2004

It will run faster if we delete the active users.
posted by timeistight at 10:46 AM on June 10, 2004

People, metafilter is probably not going to be any faster because of apache. The whole idea behind this switch is to make it more stable, so it crashes less often, so it can actually be up and running for a whole day.
posted by wobh at 10:47 AM on June 10, 2004

P.S. This means fewer of the "connection refused" errors and more jruns.
posted by wobh at 10:50 AM on June 10, 2004

Matt, you rock. The server software you use shouldn't make a difference to your visitors, but sometimes, it does.
posted by quasistoic at 10:51 AM on June 10, 2004

Speel check still not working for me. It just hangs at the "Checking Spelling, Please Wait" animated graph thing.

Using Opera 7.50
posted by Capn at 11:40 AM on June 10, 2004

wobh: Why not? Apache was a lot faster when it sat on :8080 (ie less people used it), so that suggests it's not CPU bound or disk bound (as it shared those resources with the IIS-run requests), and it's definately not network bound.
posted by fvw at 12:21 PM on June 10, 2004

The bottleneck looks to be the ColdFusionMX engine jrun, which is using java, and tends to gobble up processor power. After I get all the bugs worked out of the server software move, I'll move on to getting CFMX to speed up if possible.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 12:41 PM on June 10, 2004

Ah, so it is a cpu-bound thing and the apache-was-faster was caused by scheduling. Figures, really; my bad.
posted by fvw at 12:56 PM on June 10, 2004

Running slower then normal...
posted by Orange Goblin at 12:58 PM on June 10, 2004

the link/bold/italic crap

Which suck up resources on your machine, not this one.
posted by yerfatma at 1:16 PM on June 10, 2004

Which suck up resources on your machine, not this one.

resources wasn't my point. those things demonstrate an attitude, an approach. shiny widgets, where utility is the far greater need, appears to have been the design rule.
posted by quonsar at 1:24 PM on June 10, 2004

I'm getting lots of Jrun errors here for the front page.
posted by bonaldi at 1:46 PM on June 10, 2004

Yeah. Me too.
posted by DrJohnEvans at 2:08 PM on June 10, 2004

So... MeFi is hosed at the moment. But MeTa and AskMe are okay. What's running what?
posted by scarabic at 2:51 PM on June 10, 2004

FYI - www.blogroots.com is giving me a 403 error
posted by romakimmy at 5:48 AM on June 11, 2004

The "MeFi: 1, 2, 3 years ago" links on the sidebar aren't working. Invalid list index 4.
posted by DrJohnEvans at 6:27 AM on June 11, 2004

those things demonstrate an attitude, an approach. shiny widgets, where utility is the far greater need, appears to have been the design rule.

So does not capitalizing and not applying emphasis where you mean to emphasize. It's up to you to pick the style you want to use. Look at it this way: the buttons at least give the non-HTML friendly a fighting chance, saving untold thousands of all-italics front pages.
posted by yerfatma at 7:45 AM on June 11, 2004

Matt, the username.mefi shortcuts aren't working, making stalking impossible. Please hope me.
posted by brownpau at 8:17 AM on June 11, 2004

Man, I was get JRUN ERRORs all day up the ying yang up until just now.
posted by Hackworth at 3:31 PM on June 11, 2004

Connection Failure members -- on the front page in the blue -- cute!
posted by amberglow at 3:42 PM on June 11, 2004

Beat me to it, amberglow. I am proud to be a member of that noble group.
posted by yerfatma at 5:47 PM on June 11, 2004

If I'm logged out, then logging in gives me: "Forbidden You don't have permission to access /, 0; URL=http://www.metafilter.com/ on this server." But if I enter the front page URL, I can get to a logged-in page. [OS X 10.3.3, Safari 1.2.1]
posted by carter at 10:25 PM on June 11, 2004

something USEFUL, like the ability to go back in and edit a post or comment you have made

Now that really is a spectacularly bad idea. (Or were you joking? It can be kinda hard to tell.)
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 11:58 PM on June 11, 2004

Matt, something is definitely wrong here. It's early morning on the east coast, and MeFi is up and running. What a terrible bug. Get to it right away. ;-)
posted by quasistoic at 5:06 AM on June 12, 2004