I made a lofi stylesheet October 9, 2001 9:30 AM Subscribe
I whipped up a quick user stylesheet to be used with lofi MetaFilter. I don’t know if it works with anything but Opera, but here’s a screenshot. What do you think?
I *like* the way lofi looks.
posted by rebeccablood at 10:13 AM on October 9, 2001
posted by rebeccablood at 10:13 AM on October 9, 2001
I prefer lofi Metafilter. It's clearer, spacier and the text stands out. Judging by the screenshot(warning: ignoramus speaking)I'd say you created a perfect transition between the present not-so-hifi and the future not-so-lowfi.
In case of sudden change, it would break us in something wonderful.
posted by MiguelCardoso at 10:14 AM on October 9, 2001
In case of sudden change, it would break us in something wonderful.
posted by MiguelCardoso at 10:14 AM on October 9, 2001
i will say that it's a cool idea to be able to apply your own stylesheets to metafilter. if you don't want to fine, but...
posted by moz at 10:18 AM on October 9, 2001
posted by moz at 10:18 AM on October 9, 2001
considering server strain, maybe lo-fi for everyone.
posted by crunchland at 10:20 AM on October 9, 2001
posted by crunchland at 10:20 AM on October 9, 2001
I would gladly switch to Opera full-time for MeFi's sake.
posted by jpoulos at 10:20 AM on October 9, 2001
posted by jpoulos at 10:20 AM on October 9, 2001
it works just fine in Netscape 6.1 and it looks really good, too
posted by Lynsey at 10:31 AM on October 9, 2001
posted by Lynsey at 10:31 AM on October 9, 2001
It almost works in IE 6, by the way.
rebecca: I *like* the way lofi looks.
The idea of a user stylesheet is that people who want to can download and tweak it to their heart’s content. (Personally, I was impressed with how it looked at first, but didn’t find it as readable as normal MetaFilter.) I’m not suggesting that Matt adopt a standard MetaFilter look for lofi, I just wanted to give that option to anyone who wanted it (and either didn’t want to do it themselves or didn’t think to try).
This probably goes without saying, but if anyone doesn’t know CSS and wants to use a different typeface, just replace ‘Georgia‘ or ‘Helvetica’ or whatever with whatever you like.
posted by gleemax at 10:53 AM on October 9, 2001
rebecca: I *like* the way lofi looks.
The idea of a user stylesheet is that people who want to can download and tweak it to their heart’s content. (Personally, I was impressed with how it looked at first, but didn’t find it as readable as normal MetaFilter.) I’m not suggesting that Matt adopt a standard MetaFilter look for lofi, I just wanted to give that option to anyone who wanted it (and either didn’t want to do it themselves or didn’t think to try).
This probably goes without saying, but if anyone doesn’t know CSS and wants to use a different typeface, just replace ‘Georgia‘ or ‘Helvetica’ or whatever with whatever you like.
posted by gleemax at 10:53 AM on October 9, 2001
Since I have a feeling this might come up... Matt, I didn’t mean to make what amounts to a copy of your design publicly available for easy swiping. It’s meant to be a user stylesheet. I assure you it’s not linked from any pages I’m aware of, and if you ask me to take it down I will.
If anyone makes their own user stylesheet (specifically to apply to lofi MetaFilter, but general user stylesheets too), it would be cool to share it with everyone here.
posted by gleemax at 11:14 AM on October 9, 2001
If anyone makes their own user stylesheet (specifically to apply to lofi MetaFilter, but general user stylesheets too), it would be cool to share it with everyone here.
posted by gleemax at 11:14 AM on October 9, 2001
Looks awesome (btw, I hate the way the current lofi version looks).
But gleemax, you should definitely change em's to pixels. Em's suck.
posted by kchristidis at 1:55 PM on October 9, 2001
But gleemax, you should definitely change em's to pixels. Em's suck.
posted by kchristidis at 1:55 PM on October 9, 2001
Give me pixels or give me death? I prefer the amazing em unit (for personal reasons). Besides, I can’t think of any browser that has problems with ems and supports user stylesheets. Ignoring problems with CSS implementations, ems are strictly superior to pixels.
posted by gleemax at 2:22 PM on October 9, 2001
posted by gleemax at 2:22 PM on October 9, 2001
Ignoring problems with CSS implementations,
Yeah, wouldn't that be nice.
posted by kindall at 3:53 PM on October 9, 2001
Yeah, wouldn't that be nice.
posted by kindall at 3:53 PM on October 9, 2001
Sorry to turn this into a tutorial, but can someone explain where one "puts" a stylesheet in IE5 for Mac to get it to work? And what does one create/edit a stylesheet "in"? An editor? What?
posted by ParisParamus at 4:26 AM on October 10, 2001
posted by ParisParamus at 4:26 AM on October 10, 2001
(or e-mail me--I would be eternally grateful [or at least for a long time])
posted by ParisParamus at 4:28 AM on October 10, 2001
posted by ParisParamus at 4:28 AM on October 10, 2001
I don’t have a Mac. In IE/Win, it’s hidden under accessibility. Nobody knows why.
One creates and edits a stylesheet in a text editor or, if one prefers, in a stylesheet editor. I’ve heard good things about style master and topstyle, but I think topstyle is Windows only and I just use a text editor.
kindall: Yeah, wouldn't that be nice.
He said ems suck. Some CSS implementations of ems suck (IE 3 and WebTV mess it up and I think NN 4.x might), but ems most certainly do not suck. I do ignore bad CSS implementations, for the most part, but I’m not in the business of implementing Yahoo or anything.
posted by gleemax at 4:44 AM on October 10, 2001
One creates and edits a stylesheet in a text editor or, if one prefers, in a stylesheet editor. I’ve heard good things about style master and topstyle, but I think topstyle is Windows only and I just use a text editor.
kindall: Yeah, wouldn't that be nice.
He said ems suck. Some CSS implementations of ems suck (IE 3 and WebTV mess it up and I think NN 4.x might), but ems most certainly do not suck. I do ignore bad CSS implementations, for the most part, but I’m not in the business of implementing Yahoo or anything.
posted by gleemax at 4:44 AM on October 10, 2001
I won't go into details, primarily cause I'm bored (and I'm in the process of packing my things cause I'm moving to another city, as well).
I do remember though, a wonderful (and damn true) quote I had read here someday:
"It's the ems, folks. Ems are a great idea, horribly implemented." -- rodii
My point exactly.
posted by kchristidis at 10:27 AM on October 10, 2001
I do remember though, a wonderful (and damn true) quote I had read here someday:
"It's the ems, folks. Ems are a great idea, horribly implemented." -- rodii
My point exactly.
posted by kchristidis at 10:27 AM on October 10, 2001
That’s okay, I’m just a ‘dipshit with lots of theoretical knowledge.’
posted by gleemax at 1:23 PM on October 10, 2001
posted by gleemax at 1:23 PM on October 10, 2001
Never actually said that, but if you say so, it's fine with me.
posted by kchristidis at 3:27 PM on October 10, 2001
posted by kchristidis at 3:27 PM on October 10, 2001
In IE5/Mac, you make a style sheet in a text editor (try BBEdit Lite if you don't have a good one handy). Put it anywhere you like, then go into the IE preferences and choose the Web Content panel. There's a checkbox on that panel that says "Use my style sheet." Mark than and then click the Select Style Sheet button to display an Open dialog that'll let you choose the file that contains your style sheet.
posted by kindall at 3:31 PM on October 10, 2001
posted by kindall at 3:31 PM on October 10, 2001
It’s a quote from the thread you linked, kchristidis. :)
posted by gleemax at 7:01 PM on October 10, 2001
posted by gleemax at 7:01 PM on October 10, 2001
I know, but the way you used it in your phrase, it seemed to me like you were embracing it for yourself ;-)
posted by kchristidis at 3:40 AM on October 13, 2001
posted by kchristidis at 3:40 AM on October 13, 2001
Oy, I'm a quote machine. "Present company excepted," OK?
posted by rodii at 7:56 AM on October 13, 2001
posted by rodii at 7:56 AM on October 13, 2001
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no, seriously, my quick scan of the .css seems to indicate that it would be pretty well cross-platform, tho I try not to make that assumption w/out testing.
posted by epersonae at 10:08 AM on October 9, 2001