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Self link.
posted by agropyron to Etiquette/Policy at 4:36 AM (54 comments total)


sofocles92's Homepage URL: http://superpatanegra.com


Domain Name: SUPERPATANEGRA.COM

Administrative Contact:
Damp, Sofocles webmaster@superpatanegra.com
Aldenlake
Nirvaniland, AL 36777
US
777843216


Domain Name:UZFUL.ORG
Created On:23-Mar-2005 19:02:35 UTC
Last Updated On:02-Dec-2005 15:59:17 UTC
Expiration Date:23-Mar-2006 19:02:35 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Intercosmos Media Group Inc. (R48-LROR)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:ODN-131261
Registrant Name:Sofocles Damp
Registrant Street1:Aldenlake
posted by agropyron at 4:36 AM on December 28, 2005


Total freakin' jerks. That's two blatant examples in as many days. How to stop it...?
posted by davidmsc at 4:48 AM on December 28, 2005


This is one of those posts where you just know it's a self link before you even check.
posted by agropyron at 4:49 AM on December 28, 2005


If he'd tried to make it sound less like SPAM in the first place one might not have been so suspicious.

"Internet is the mother of all invents."
Yes, yes it is.
posted by NinjaPirate at 4:49 AM on December 28, 2005


Can we fucking stop the shitting elelphant images, though?
posted by signal at 4:52 AM on December 28, 2005


signal, it's urinating.
posted by agropyron at 4:53 AM on December 28, 2005


A google image search for "self link" gives the Tower as the first result.

The Tower is an unsettling card. Fire, lightning, falling on jagged rocks - definitely looks like trouble! Card 16 will not be welcomed by those who dislike change. It represents a sudden, dramatic upheaval or reversal in fortune.

Maybe this can be the new image posted to self-link threads.
posted by agropyron at 5:01 AM on December 28, 2005


I think the wonder chicken was right - if you don't want to raise the financial bar, raise the time bar. Maybe you'd have to be a member for a month, or more even, before you can post?
posted by CunningLinguist at 5:09 AM on December 28, 2005


This is getting ridiculous.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:10 AM on December 28, 2005


agropyron: "signal, it's urinating."

Oh, carry on, then. My bad.
posted by signal at 5:11 AM on December 28, 2005


You very idle stays. Jo jo jo oooo. Self-link is a bad link? Self-link is spam? Spam uuuuuuu What fear!
posted by sofocles92 at 5:11 AM on December 28, 2005


Metafilter: Jo jo jo ooo.

You heard it here first.
posted by mek at 5:13 AM on December 28, 2005




got it.
posted by jessamyn at 5:17 AM on December 28, 2005


An idle stay is the devil's playground.
posted by agropyron at 5:19 AM on December 28, 2005


sofocles92 : "Self-link is a bad link? Self-link is spam?"

Just in case you are just being obtuse, self-link is forbidden in Front Page Posts. Full stop. End of Story. Next time you want to post a link, check the guidelines. Or just read the prominent note in the "Post a Link" page:

"Note: You read the guidelines, right? Because linking to your own site or a project you worked on in this space will result in a deletion and your account will be banned. Post it to MetaFilter Projects to announce your work instead, which was designed especially for this purpose."
posted by nkyad at 5:25 AM on December 28, 2005




Next time you want to post a link, check the guidelines.

Presumably, there won't be a next time.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:28 AM on December 28, 2005


Metafilter: Jo jo jo ooo. I am the elephant.
posted by loquacious at 5:33 AM on December 28, 2005


stavrosthewonderchicken : "Presumably, there won't be a next time."

I was talking to sofocles93, not to the (soon-to-be) late sofocles92.
posted by nkyad at 5:34 AM on December 28, 2005


sofocles, to you I say:

king disease as,
difficult grew why.
handwriting grave already disappoint.
commit between pretty interest forty? person thinking fail understand not. back among pay reference.
fascinate given wanted teacher. opposite approach word evening short, grave quietly ran happened fly letter.

And I mean it, too.
posted by Captaintripps at 5:36 AM on December 28, 2005


You very idle stays. Jo jo jo oooo. Self-link is a bad link? Self-link is spam? Spam uuuuuuu What fear!

Classic MeFi! It was funny enough when I thought it was somebody making fun of dumbass self-linkers, but then I read the next line and saw it was posted by sofocles92 himself and cracked up. God help me, but I can't help hoping the place is never entirely free of these badfellows.
posted by languagehat at 5:54 AM on December 28, 2005


Between sofocles and milos, I'm wondering if there's some spammer's tip site out there with the following post:

U ppl desire big time hits out the jo jo? Metafilter is fantastic site for u! ;)
posted by melissa may at 5:55 AM on December 28, 2005


Sofocles, suponiendo que tu idioma natal es el español, por favor deja de avergonzarnos a todos con tus idioteces. Madura, aprende y transfórmate en alguien útil.
Besos,
posted by signal at 6:01 AM on December 28, 2005


Teh troll, bite it not.
posted by By The Grace of God at 6:13 AM on December 28, 2005


Nirvaniland?
posted by matteo at 6:31 AM on December 28, 2005


languagehat writes "God help me, but I can't help hoping the place is never entirely free of these badfellows."

I fear we agree in this wish. A pox on both of us, but a funny one!
posted by OmieWise at 6:34 AM on December 28, 2005


I hope he hasn't been banned from posting more comments.
posted by cillit bang at 6:38 AM on December 28, 2005


Open membership has clearly passed the point of diminishing returns.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 6:44 AM on December 28, 2005


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posted by cortex at 7:04 AM on December 28, 2005


sofocles92 - Precisely in case where you are acute, alone it is prohibited first page in the places. Complete attitude. Finally the history. The next time you want to place a connection, it checks the directives. Or read precisely the sticking out note in a "place connection" page:

"Note: Read the directives, right? Because the connection in your region or a program where you worked in this interval will lead to a deletion and your assessment will be prohibited. Afterwards this in the programs MetaFilter in order to is announced your work of this, which was drawn particularly for this reason."
posted by y6y6y6 at 7:14 AM on December 28, 2005


your assessment will be prohibited
posted by cortex at 7:33 AM on December 28, 2005


Or, less obliquely, I think we may have a language barrier.

The last two self-links were made by folks who didn't seem to have a solid grasp of either reading or English. Could it be possible that we need to account for non-English speakers to prevent more self-links?

If English is a second language for someone finding MetaFilter and immediately seeing a great guerilla marketing opportunity, we may be asking too much if our expectation is that they've read the guidelines. For someone like that the only point of joining is to get their link in. Read the guidelines? Not likely.

Not sure how to solve that problem though. But since the self-linking section of the guidelines is the only part we'd need non-English speakers to read, perhaps put that in multiple languages.

Also - Uzful.org, I was told by my supervisor the other day, is the number one site to go to for pictures of naked underage children. Apparently, the folks who work at Uzful earn the majority of their household income by putting these preteen pornstars to work for them making basketball shoes, you know when they're not selling drugs to minors. Have you heard about Uzful's latest venture? They're apparently responsible for the grisly murder of children. Somebody told me that one of the staff at Uzful raped his wife and children. These accusations mesh well with my own suspicion that Sofocles Damp is a syphilitic hamster abuser whose urine drinking habits have driven him rather insane. Still, I don't that should forgive Sofocles Damp, or Uzful, for the serial murder of rodents by anal insertion. It's just not right.

Of course, that's all hearsay and I haven't a shred of evidence or substance to validate any of the above statements. They're merely rumors, and quite possibly entirely false.

Uzful.org sucks.
posted by y6y6y6 at 7:35 AM on December 28, 2005


Sofocles92 - is Exact, when where you, to be sharp, the one first page in places are forbidden. Finish the attitude. At last a history. Next time you want to place communication, checks supervising principles. Or read precisely to surpass the note in page of communication of a place:

"Pay attention: Read supervising principles, the right? As communication in its area or the program where you worked in this interval, will bear to suppression, and his estimation will be forbidden. Later it in programs MetaFilter for is declared his work of it which pulled especially for this reason."
posted by Captaintripps at 7:37 AM on December 28, 2005


What we need is some symbol which means "no self-linking, moron" to anybody regardless of their language, sort of how the 'radiation' symbol was designed to look scary and threatening regardless of your cultural background.
posted by signal at 7:40 AM on December 28, 2005


Don't know what their self-linking policy is, but he's spamming digg, as well:
http://digg.com/users/sofocles
posted by signal at 7:42 AM on December 28, 2005


oh, cmon. they understand english well enough (and i never thought y6y6y6 would be the one to grasp at that straw...).
posted by andrew cooke at 7:44 AM on December 28, 2005


If English is a second language for someone finding MetaFilter and immediately seeing a great guerilla marketing opportunity, we may be asking too much if our expectation is that they've read the guidelines.

Just thinking out loud, but is the reverse ever true? That is, how common is it for native speakers of English (with no other languages) to go about spamming on non-English messageboards/portals/blogs/etc.?

At any rate, I don't think it's too much to ask for everyone to read the rules of any site before posting. If I wanted to advertise or even just participate on a non-English site, I'd bribe languagehat find someone to translate the guidelines for me first.
posted by Gator at 7:50 AM on December 28, 2005


andrew cooke: "oh, cmon. they understand english well enough ..."
Maybe if we talk. real. slow. AND. LOUD. AT. THEM.
posted by signal at 7:52 AM on December 28, 2005


I was rushed when I read the post this morning, but it looked interesting so I tagged the site for del.icio.us. After reading this MeTa post, I went to kill the del.icio.us link and saw that 23 others have already linked to that site.

Also, maybe these blatant self-links should be totally nuked from the database here.
posted by SteveInMaine at 8:02 AM on December 28, 2005


Gator : "That is, how common is it for native speakers of English (with no other languages) to go about spamming on non-English messageboards/portals/blogs/etc.? "

Actually, I don't think native speakers of any language with no other languages would be able to spam on non-[insert native language] sites. There were some minor skirmishes during the Brazilian take over of Orkut, but even this subsided after Google mail-bombed the guidelines ("When posting, always use the form official language") into my unwashed compatriots for some time.
posted by nkyad at 8:05 AM on December 28, 2005


What does everyone think about deleting MeTa threads like this one after the self-link is identified and removed from the Blue? I don't know about you, but when I see a self-link callout, I go to see who the member was, and then I'm tempted to click and see what grand and glorious site they were willing to self-link in the Blue.

In other words, long after the post is dead, the MeTa callout is still generating traffic to the person's self-linked site.

Maybe disable the self-link when deleting? Or how about deleting this callout? Would that be okay?
posted by scarabic at 8:32 AM on December 28, 2005


Maybe disable the self-link when deleting?

I'd agree with this, though I expect some would complain that they "wanted to see it for themselves" or something along those lines, the way some do when AskMe questions are deleted -- "I was really interested in that and now I can't follow up/check it out for myself/etc."
posted by Gator at 8:36 AM on December 28, 2005


I don't like the idea of deleting self-link callouts, because you lose information. A month from now, when enpedocles55 post the same link to uzful we want to be able to connect the dots.
posted by nkyad at 8:42 AM on December 28, 2005


Did someone set us up the bomb again?
posted by blue_beetle at 10:12 AM on December 28, 2005


"...set up us..."
[/meme pedant]
posted by NinjaPirate at 10:34 AM on December 28, 2005


Can someone Greasemonkey up an extension that runs every comment by a brand new user through Babelfish two or three times? Perhaps English --> Italian --> French --> Portuguese --> English? Thanks.
posted by gramschmidt at 10:42 AM on December 28, 2005


Could it be possible that we need to account for non-English speakers to prevent more self-links?

I'd bribe languagehat find someone to translate the guidelines for me first.

Babelfish -- English to French; French to English:
"Does What makes have bad post to MetaFilter? What makes a bad post with MetaFilter? The indication of a bond with your homepage and to require feedback is a bad post. Is not art of car-portrait-promotion about what this site is. The promotion of art of the self-portrait can 'be gained.' If you uniformly announce comments or bonds deprovocation on the site, people will click on your name to better know you. On the page of profile, you can put your own URL and people can check that outside. There are many fresh pages made by the members of this site, click on few people to explore."
posted by ericb at 10:43 AM on December 28, 2005


Feature request: Can we please make it so that banned self-linkers can perpetually post in their meTa thread? They're oh so hilarious when confined to a single thread! (Seriously)
posted by anomie at 10:55 AM on December 28, 2005


We're so easily entertained.
posted by matildaben at 10:57 AM on December 28, 2005


agree with bumping the post to the front page time up to a month. We've already got tons of posts over there, and a month isn't that long to wait if you really want to participate.
posted by fishfucker at 12:24 PM on December 28, 2005


thirded
posted by cortex at 1:06 PM on December 28, 2005


Fourthed.

Though I've been a member almost a year and I have yet to post an FPP, so I may not be the best person to pass judgement about this.
posted by joshuaconner at 2:37 PM on December 28, 2005


fived
posted by signal at 4:11 PM on December 28, 2005


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