Repetitive Blink March 28, 2006 9:01 AM Subscribe
I didn't realize that the blink tag is verboten. I have seen it before. My apologies if there is some standing policy against its usage.
posted by dios at 9:04 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by dios at 9:04 AM on March 28, 2006
I don't know if it's a policy, but it's incredibly rude.
posted by empath at 9:05 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by empath at 9:05 AM on March 28, 2006
The reason is either that mathowie secretly coddles fascists for his own financial gain (they generate pageviews), or that dios is actually a decent chap who doesn't deserve a ban but gets drawn into flamefests because folk poke him with their liberal sticks. I can't be arsed combing the nine fucking billion MetaTalk threads on this very topic to guage the consensus as to which reason is the correct one.
Myself, I really don't mind dios. He's certainly posted some decent links of late.
posted by jack_mo at 9:05 AM on March 28, 2006
Myself, I really don't mind dios. He's certainly posted some decent links of late.
posted by jack_mo at 9:05 AM on March 28, 2006
Oh, sorry, it's about the blink tag? Er, yeah, annoying, hardly ban-worthy. (It's quite easy to disable it in your browser using a userContent.css file.)
posted by jack_mo at 9:07 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by jack_mo at 9:07 AM on March 28, 2006
How about banning two with one blow?
posted by crunchland at 9:07 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by crunchland at 9:07 AM on March 28, 2006
dios, that's a bs apology. A huge paragraph, in all caps, repeating the same single sentence over and over, in BLINK, is beyond rude.
In other words, it's not really about the goddamn blink tag, it's about the fact that you're THAT rude and don't particularly care that you were. I'd ban your ass forever if I were in charge.
And y6 demonstrates, once again, how calling something out very frequently is a worse offense than the original 'crime'.
posted by Malor at 9:09 AM on March 28, 2006
In other words, it's not really about the goddamn blink tag, it's about the fact that you're THAT rude and don't particularly care that you were. I'd ban your ass forever if I were in charge.
And y6 demonstrates, once again, how calling something out very frequently is a worse offense than the original 'crime'.
posted by Malor at 9:09 AM on March 28, 2006
Dios, why not just spam tall.gif if you're interested in disruption?
posted by Optimus Chyme at 9:11 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by Optimus Chyme at 9:11 AM on March 28, 2006
Dios, do you really need to be presented with the official Metafilter Blink Tag Policy to know that it's just rude to express your opinion in a discussion by repeating the same phrase over and over again in a big ugly wodge of flashing, bold text?
posted by nanojath at 9:11 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by nanojath at 9:11 AM on March 28, 2006
The reason is either that mathowie secretly coddles fascists for his own financial gain
This is true. Matt is, in fact, sitting on a giant bag with a $ on it, laughing manically as everyone fights.
posted by Gator at 9:11 AM on March 28, 2006
This is true. Matt is, in fact, sitting on a giant bag with a $ on it, laughing manically as everyone fights.
posted by Gator at 9:11 AM on March 28, 2006
The complaints about dios are more annoying than dios' posts. (Longtime reader, here, lest you point to my user number as cluelessness.)
posted by Maisie Jay at 9:13 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by Maisie Jay at 9:13 AM on March 28, 2006
And this in a thread where we're in the middle of a polite discussion of the merits and pitfalls of such a class, and how it's elective status bears on the issue. Indeed, a thread where he enters the discussion. Wtf with the wft then?
Dios can be engaging. But only in pursuit of seeing his ego writ large. And even in this forum where our heros are frequently pompous asses, he raises the standard for what one must do to be considered MeFi's biggest ass. He is a constant derailer. Constant.
(and of course by shitting in MeTa with the blink tag I'm indicating that I've reached my last f'ing nerve with Dios)
posted by y6y6y6 at 9:13 AM on March 28, 2006
Dios can be engaging. But only in pursuit of seeing his ego writ large. And even in this forum where our heros are frequently pompous asses, he raises the standard for what one must do to be considered MeFi's biggest ass. He is a constant derailer. Constant.
(and of course by shitting in MeTa with the blink tag I'm indicating that I've reached my last f'ing nerve with Dios)
posted by y6y6y6 at 9:13 AM on March 28, 2006
I met the man; he's dripping with bling. Clearly he has an ultra-luxurious lifestyle that needs supporting.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 9:14 AM on March 28, 2006 [1 favorite]
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 9:14 AM on March 28, 2006 [1 favorite]
Yeah, i was actually interested in the discussion, but now it's been completely derailed.
posted by empath at 9:15 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by empath at 9:15 AM on March 28, 2006
Holy shit, both this callout and that post should be stopped. (But if we permanently lose the [blink] tag I will be pissed.)
posted by OmieWise at 9:15 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by OmieWise at 9:15 AM on March 28, 2006
When I make Metafilter: The Movie I'm totally going to portray Mathowie as sitting on a giant bag with $ on it, or $$ instead of eyeballs, sitting on a recumbent bike.
posted by shnoz-gobblin at 9:15 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by shnoz-gobblin at 9:15 AM on March 28, 2006
y6y6y6 writes "(and of course by shitting in MeTa with the blink tag I'm indicating that I've reached my last f'ing nerve with Dios)"
This excuse is not persuasive. Meeting rudeness with rudeness is bad form, one-uping rudeness is almost never going to end well.
posted by OmieWise at 9:16 AM on March 28, 2006
This excuse is not persuasive. Meeting rudeness with rudeness is bad form, one-uping rudeness is almost never going to end well.
posted by OmieWise at 9:16 AM on March 28, 2006
Please don't throw out the with the bath water. Please! Just blink responsibly, people.
posted by If I Had An Anus at 9:16 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by If I Had An Anus at 9:16 AM on March 28, 2006
Really though, y6y6y6, your callout was a whole lot more disruptive than dios' shitting in that thread. Yes, he acted obnxiously in a thread, but you did the same in bright yellow text on the front page of Metatalk.
posted by chiababe at 9:17 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by chiababe at 9:17 AM on March 28, 2006
I think anyone one that actually reads metatalk has a high tolerance for noise and obnoxiousness, anyway.
posted by empath at 9:19 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by empath at 9:19 AM on March 28, 2006
I think anyone one that actually reads metatalk has a high tolerance for noise and obnoxiousness, anyway.
Who could disagree with that?
posted by sonofsamiam at 9:21 AM on March 28, 2006
Who could disagree with that?
posted by sonofsamiam at 9:21 AM on March 28, 2006
ow.
let's just turn off blink and never speak of this again.
posted by blacklite at 9:21 AM on March 28, 2006
let's just turn off blink and never speak of this again.
posted by blacklite at 9:21 AM on March 28, 2006
Yeah, i was actually interested in the discussion, but now it's been completely derailed.
Yeah, but, people who jump to respond to a derailing comment bear some responsibility for the derail, don't they? At the risk of stating the obvious, flag it and move on.
(Or is it really that much worse just because it was dios who did it? Had anyone else, like Joe Blow Noob, made the same exact obnoxious allcaps blinky comment, would it have been brought to MeTa?)
posted by Gator at 9:22 AM on March 28, 2006
Yeah, but, people who jump to respond to a derailing comment bear some responsibility for the derail, don't they? At the risk of stating the obvious, flag it and move on.
(Or is it really that much worse just because it was dios who did it? Had anyone else, like Joe Blow Noob, made the same exact obnoxious allcaps blinky comment, would it have been brought to MeTa?)
posted by Gator at 9:22 AM on March 28, 2006
Said another way - It was once said that we don't do politics well. And while I'm sure Dios is a very smart person, and could be a worthwhile contribution to some online forum, MetaFilter is not that happy home. We don't do Dios well.
But that's just being charitable isn't it? With the glaring exception of a couple front page posts, his contribution here has been almost exclusively as a serial derailer. And his appeals that others keep making the threads all about him - that he is just the victim here - are insulting. An all caps blinking derail??!!
Said another way - Liberals used to have a joke about how the conservatives wouldn't view it poorly if Dick Cheney ere to shoot a man in the face with a shotgun. If Dios can't get suspended for an all caps blinking derail, then just what will it take? I'm seriously asking.
posted by y6y6y6 at 9:24 AM on March 28, 2006
But that's just being charitable isn't it? With the glaring exception of a couple front page posts, his contribution here has been almost exclusively as a serial derailer. And his appeals that others keep making the threads all about him - that he is just the victim here - are insulting. An all caps blinking derail??!!
Said another way - Liberals used to have a joke about how the conservatives wouldn't view it poorly if Dick Cheney ere to shoot a man in the face with a shotgun. If Dios can't get suspended for an all caps blinking derail, then just what will it take? I'm seriously asking.
posted by y6y6y6 at 9:24 AM on March 28, 2006
Just to save us all a little time:
User A: Flag it and move on.
User B: The flag system is a black hole and doesn't accomplish anything.
User A: Wrong, it weeds out posts just like this, and we don't need a MeTa callout for every bothersome post.
User B: I want justice!
User C: dios is terrible and should be banned anyway.
User D: No, dios is being singled out because he is conservative.
User C: To the contrary, dios receives preferential treatment because he is conservative.
User E: dios isn't conservative, he just doesn't buy into the MeFi echo chamber.
User B: I want justice!
User F: dios constantly derails threads and should be banned.
User D: User F, *you* should be banned, look what you said in 50021
User F: I call B.S., you provoked me and didn't even consider the merits of my argument.
User D: You're always attacking me for no reason, you're no different from dios.
User C: No one is as bad as dios, dios is the worst.
User B: I want justice!
User G: The complaints about dios are more annoying than dios' posts.
*begin gifs*
posted by brain_drain at 9:24 AM on March 28, 2006
User A: Flag it and move on.
User B: The flag system is a black hole and doesn't accomplish anything.
User A: Wrong, it weeds out posts just like this, and we don't need a MeTa callout for every bothersome post.
User B: I want justice!
User C: dios is terrible and should be banned anyway.
User D: No, dios is being singled out because he is conservative.
User C: To the contrary, dios receives preferential treatment because he is conservative.
User E: dios isn't conservative, he just doesn't buy into the MeFi echo chamber.
User B: I want justice!
User F: dios constantly derails threads and should be banned.
User D: User F, *you* should be banned, look what you said in 50021
User F: I call B.S., you provoked me and didn't even consider the merits of my argument.
User D: You're always attacking me for no reason, you're no different from dios.
User C: No one is as bad as dios, dios is the worst.
User B: I want justice!
User G: The complaints about dios are more annoying than dios' posts.
*begin gifs*
posted by brain_drain at 9:24 AM on March 28, 2006
This callout is waaaaay more obnoxious. dios's silly paragraph was at least hidden in a thread. The front page of any of the 3 sites is not the place to pull out your dick and piss on the rest of us.
posted by peacay at 9:26 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by peacay at 9:26 AM on March 28, 2006
The blink tag can and has been used for great things. Here, a poster pretends like he didn't know that derailing a conversation with a paragraph of copy-pasted text all blinking was rude. Don't blame it on the tag.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 9:27 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by Optimus Chyme at 9:27 AM on March 28, 2006
Really though, y6y6y6, your callout was a whole lot more disruptive than dios' shitting in that thread.
Amen. y6y6y6, you need to realize that your personal outrage about dios (an outrage shared by increasingly few people) makes you incapable of responding to him in a sensible and convincing way. You just make yourself look like a jackass. There was a member who got on my nerves that way, and when I realized I couldn't respond to him without sounding even to myself like a broken record, I just stopped responding. It took willpower, but it worked. I suggest you give it a try.
posted by languagehat at 9:27 AM on March 28, 2006
Amen. y6y6y6, you need to realize that your personal outrage about dios (an outrage shared by increasingly few people) makes you incapable of responding to him in a sensible and convincing way. You just make yourself look like a jackass. There was a member who got on my nerves that way, and when I realized I couldn't respond to him without sounding even to myself like a broken record, I just stopped responding. It took willpower, but it worked. I suggest you give it a try.
posted by languagehat at 9:27 AM on March 28, 2006
all caps blinking derail
How was it a derail? Does the all caps blinking part make it a derail, because the content wasn't a derail.
posted by If I Had An Anus at 9:28 AM on March 28, 2006
How was it a derail? Does the all caps blinking part make it a derail, because the content wasn't a derail.
posted by If I Had An Anus at 9:28 AM on March 28, 2006
If we've had that same conversation enough times to summarize it that accurately, it strikes me that enough is enough.
posted by Malor at 9:28 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by Malor at 9:28 AM on March 28, 2006
(an outrage shared by increasingly few people)
LH, do you think that dios's use of the blink tag to disrupt a thread was appropriate behavior? Why or why not?
posted by Optimus Chyme at 9:28 AM on March 28, 2006
LH, do you think that dios's use of the blink tag to disrupt a thread was appropriate behavior? Why or why not?
posted by Optimus Chyme at 9:28 AM on March 28, 2006
good things you jerks aren't in charge. what if the person using the blinking crap liked it? what then? you text nazis need to chill out.
posted by 29 at 9:28 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by 29 at 9:28 AM on March 28, 2006
Oh and I vote for banning of the blink tag if it's up for consideration. I can't think of a single time it hasn't annoyed me.
posted by peacay at 9:29 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by peacay at 9:29 AM on March 28, 2006
Maybe it was a really important comment that totally solved the issue for any-which side you might happen to be on, and he repeated it over, and over, and over because it was so important, and he put it all in caps so it would look like he was yelling it, and he used the blink tag in case people on Jupiter wouldn't miss it.
Bah! Attention whore troll.
posted by shnoz-gobblin at 9:30 AM on March 28, 2006
Bah! Attention whore troll.
posted by shnoz-gobblin at 9:30 AM on March 28, 2006
Look, I apologized. I apologized in the thread a well, and explained that my comment was directed that the merit of the post. I wasn't attempting to foreclose the discussion. I was commenting on the fact that we have discussed this topic so many times that I was positive this is a double post (turns out on further investigation, the last time we discussed this topic it was a Texas elective program...not sure that distinction makes a difference).
But my apologies for using the blink tag. I have seen graphical things done all the time. I didn't intend to cross any line. But apparently I did. Mea culpa. I'm not going to argue it or try to excuse myself. If you want to continue to roast me, then have at it. But I understand the complaint and have apologized for it.
posted by dios at 9:30 AM on March 28, 2006
But my apologies for using the blink tag. I have seen graphical things done all the time. I didn't intend to cross any line. But apparently I did. Mea culpa. I'm not going to argue it or try to excuse myself. If you want to continue to roast me, then have at it. But I understand the complaint and have apologized for it.
posted by dios at 9:30 AM on March 28, 2006
"Really though, y6y6y6, your callout was a whole lot more disruptive than dios' shitting in that thread."
Yes yes. That's rather the point isn't it? I could flag it and move on if I just wanted the semi-stern warning. What good would that do? The problem is not the blink tag. The problem is Dios. We can not have a comfortable discussion when he is present. That is the point.
He's the drunk guy at the party. He's the coworker who wears too much cologne.
posted by y6y6y6 at 9:31 AM on March 28, 2006
Yes yes. That's rather the point isn't it? I could flag it and move on if I just wanted the semi-stern warning. What good would that do? The problem is not the blink tag. The problem is Dios. We can not have a comfortable discussion when he is present. That is the point.
He's the drunk guy at the party. He's the coworker who wears too much cologne.
posted by y6y6y6 at 9:31 AM on March 28, 2006
I apologized in the thread a well, and explained that my comment was directed that the merit of the post. I wasn't attempting to foreclose the discussion.
1) Do you see how the second sentence contradicts the first?
2) Whatever happened to "if you don't like it, skip it"? Those are your words.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 9:32 AM on March 28, 2006
1) Do you see how the second sentence contradicts the first?
2) Whatever happened to "if you don't like it, skip it"? Those are your words.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 9:32 AM on March 28, 2006
Can we just have a permanently open MeTa thread for the Hall Monitor General to post his interminable whining about threads he doesn't like?
posted by Armitage Shanks at 9:35 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by Armitage Shanks at 9:35 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by Dreamghost at 9:36 AM on March 28, 2006
Obnoxious, but not as bad as the huge images that give FireFox a seizure.
Gator, of course it was because dios was the mad blinker: "I've reached my last f'ing nerve"
It deserves a call-out/correction because of the inproper use of blink tags, but there's obviously more to it than just that.
Oh, and:
MetaTalk: I've reached my last f'ing nerve
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 9:36 AM on March 28, 2006
Gator, of course it was because dios was the mad blinker: "I've reached my last f'ing nerve"
It deserves a call-out/correction because of the inproper use of blink tags, but there's obviously more to it than just that.
Oh, and:
MetaTalk: I've reached my last f'ing nerve
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 9:36 AM on March 28, 2006
y6y6y6 writes "The problem is Dios. We can not have a comfortable discussion when he is present. That is the point."
This is just your overwrought opinion. I disagree with dios frequently, but I just don't buy that he's so awful and that he shits everywhere you're trying to eat. I'm not trying to be a jerk about it, I just don't see it. So, why should he be banned just because he cheeses you off beyond the limits of self-control?
posted by OmieWise at 9:37 AM on March 28, 2006
This is just your overwrought opinion. I disagree with dios frequently, but I just don't buy that he's so awful and that he shits everywhere you're trying to eat. I'm not trying to be a jerk about it, I just don't see it. So, why should he be banned just because he cheeses you off beyond the limits of self-control?
posted by OmieWise at 9:37 AM on March 28, 2006
He's the drunk guy at the party. He's the coworker who wears too much cologne.
When there's a guy you think has had too much to drink, you say, "Hey, maybe you should sit down over here or something, chill out." When there's a guy who has too much cologne on, you go, "shit, wow, I can smell your cologne from here. You need to watch that stuff."
You don't run over to the music, turn it off, grab a microphone, and go HEY EVERYONE THAT GUY IS REALLY DRUNK JESUS CHRIST WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE HE'S DRUNK OH MY GOD WHY ARE YOU TOLERATING THIS HEY GUYS LET'S GET RID OF HIM HEY GUYS.
Dios was being annoying, sure, blink sucks. But when someone does something that annoys you, step one should really not be deciding to do the exact same thing, but louder, bigger, and in a more public space.
posted by blacklite at 9:37 AM on March 28, 2006
When there's a guy you think has had too much to drink, you say, "Hey, maybe you should sit down over here or something, chill out." When there's a guy who has too much cologne on, you go, "shit, wow, I can smell your cologne from here. You need to watch that stuff."
You don't run over to the music, turn it off, grab a microphone, and go HEY EVERYONE THAT GUY IS REALLY DRUNK JESUS CHRIST WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE HE'S DRUNK OH MY GOD WHY ARE YOU TOLERATING THIS HEY GUYS LET'S GET RID OF HIM HEY GUYS.
Dios was being annoying, sure, blink sucks. But when someone does something that annoys you, step one should really not be deciding to do the exact same thing, but louder, bigger, and in a more public space.
posted by blacklite at 9:37 AM on March 28, 2006
Thank you, Y6y6y6, for beginning another anti-Dios thread. I mean, it has been days.
posted by LarryC at 9:37 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by LarryC at 9:37 AM on March 28, 2006
The problem is Dios. We can not have a comfortable discussion when he is present.
a.) You don't speak for everyone. Exchange "we" for "I."
b.) The active voice is accurate, though. Exactly right: "I cannot..." The problem is yours.
posted by cribcage at 9:37 AM on March 28, 2006
a.) You don't speak for everyone. Exchange "we" for "I."
b.) The active voice is accurate, though. Exactly right: "I cannot..." The problem is yours.
posted by cribcage at 9:37 AM on March 28, 2006
(an outrage shared by increasingly few people)
I'd be willing to bet there are a helluva lot of people who wish the guy would go away but stay silent about it because they are leery of getting into flame wars.
posted by CunningLinguist at 9:40 AM on March 28, 2006
I'd be willing to bet there are a helluva lot of people who wish the guy would go away but stay silent about it because they are leery of getting into flame wars.
posted by CunningLinguist at 9:40 AM on March 28, 2006
LH, do you think that dios's use of the blink tag to disrupt a thread was appropriate behavior? Why or why not?
Of course it wasn't "appropriate behavior." MeFi is not exactly famed as the Home of Appropriate Behavior. You've behaved inappropriately here, so have I, so have most members who have a substantial commenting history. (And frankly, I think if someone suggested to you that your behavior had been "inappropriate," you'd laugh like a hyena, much like quonsar.) That's not the point. The point is that had it been anyone but dios, y6y6y6 would not have made this dumb callout, and you know that as well as I do. If you're defending the callout, you're just outing yourself as another member of the Increasingly Few. Which is your right, of course. But if inappropriate behavior were automatically called out in MeTa, the gray would be unusable. I will also point out that dios has apologized both here and in the original thread; I doubt he will transgress in this fashion again. I wait with bated breath to see if y6y6y6 will have the grace to apologize. Somehow I doubt it:
The problem is not the blink tag. The problem is Dios.
No, amigo. The problem at the moment is you.
On preview: What blacklite said.
posted by languagehat at 9:40 AM on March 28, 2006
Of course it wasn't "appropriate behavior." MeFi is not exactly famed as the Home of Appropriate Behavior. You've behaved inappropriately here, so have I, so have most members who have a substantial commenting history. (And frankly, I think if someone suggested to you that your behavior had been "inappropriate," you'd laugh like a hyena, much like quonsar.) That's not the point. The point is that had it been anyone but dios, y6y6y6 would not have made this dumb callout, and you know that as well as I do. If you're defending the callout, you're just outing yourself as another member of the Increasingly Few. Which is your right, of course. But if inappropriate behavior were automatically called out in MeTa, the gray would be unusable. I will also point out that dios has apologized both here and in the original thread; I doubt he will transgress in this fashion again. I wait with bated breath to see if y6y6y6 will have the grace to apologize. Somehow I doubt it:
The problem is not the blink tag. The problem is Dios.
No, amigo. The problem at the moment is you.
On preview: What blacklite said.
posted by languagehat at 9:40 AM on March 28, 2006
So what's the score now? Has dios taken the lead in callouts? What does he win except alot of scorn that makes him feel all tingly inside?
Feed the ego, folks. It only gets bigger and more stupid and annoying.
And in regards to the all caps blinking paragraph, dude, if you can't see that it was rude then you should probably not be on the internets at all.
posted by fenriq at 9:40 AM on March 28, 2006
Feed the ego, folks. It only gets bigger and more stupid and annoying.
And in regards to the all caps blinking paragraph, dude, if you can't see that it was rude then you should probably not be on the internets at all.
posted by fenriq at 9:40 AM on March 28, 2006
"y6y6y6, you need to realize that your personal outrage about dios makes you incapable of responding to him in a sensible and convincing way."
I've engaged him in discussion many times in threads. I've always made an effort to be polite and on topic. I think I've succeed in that for the most part. I'll let my previous post history in those threads speak for itself.
But there comes a time when enough is enough. We have a user who makes the site worse for everyone. I ask you honestly - Can you name any other prodigious derailer here that we haven't banned or suspended? Anyone?
And it's not about the issues or agendas. Again, I'll point people to my post history. It's been many years since I spent any effort at all attacking conservatives on the issues in anything but a polite way. They like the war and the president. Good for them. I disagree.
Dios is about breaking threads. Maybe he's doing it innocently, but I have a very hard time understanding how that could be the case. The man has clear rhetorical skills. He knows what he's doing. Right?
posted by y6y6y6 at 9:42 AM on March 28, 2006
I've engaged him in discussion many times in threads. I've always made an effort to be polite and on topic. I think I've succeed in that for the most part. I'll let my previous post history in those threads speak for itself.
But there comes a time when enough is enough. We have a user who makes the site worse for everyone. I ask you honestly - Can you name any other prodigious derailer here that we haven't banned or suspended? Anyone?
And it's not about the issues or agendas. Again, I'll point people to my post history. It's been many years since I spent any effort at all attacking conservatives on the issues in anything but a polite way. They like the war and the president. Good for them. I disagree.
Dios is about breaking threads. Maybe he's doing it innocently, but I have a very hard time understanding how that could be the case. The man has clear rhetorical skills. He knows what he's doing. Right?
posted by y6y6y6 at 9:42 AM on March 28, 2006
Since when does a blinking paragraph of a single repeated sentence in all capitals qualify as "rhetorical skills?"
posted by monju_bosatsu at 9:45 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by monju_bosatsu at 9:45 AM on March 28, 2006
We have a user who makes the site worse for everyone.
Again, you don't speak for everyone.
posted by Gator at 9:48 AM on March 28, 2006
Again, you don't speak for everyone.
posted by Gator at 9:48 AM on March 28, 2006
You've behaved inappropriately here, so have I, so have most members who have a substantial commenting history.
The difference is that I've actually gotten timeoutted for it.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 9:48 AM on March 28, 2006
The difference is that I've actually gotten timeoutted for it.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 9:48 AM on March 28, 2006
We have a user who makes the site worse for everyone.
"Everyone." You keep saying that. People keep disagreeing. Maybe you're doing this innocently, but I have a hard time understanding how that could be the case. You have clear rhetorical skills. You know what you're doing, right?
posted by cribcage at 9:48 AM on March 28, 2006
"Everyone." You keep saying that. People keep disagreeing. Maybe you're doing this innocently, but I have a hard time understanding how that could be the case. You have clear rhetorical skills. You know what you're doing, right?
posted by cribcage at 9:48 AM on March 28, 2006
I'd be willing to bet there are a helluva lot of people who wish the guy would go away but stay silent about it because they are leery of getting into flame wars.
I'll take that bet, CunningLinguist.
The AntiDiosticians are some of the most vocal members here; I'm pretty sure that most of the folks who dislike dios have spoken up already. If I said that I didn't care for the guy, I'm ure sthat there'd be at least 5 other assenting voices backing me up within minutes of me posting that sentiment. It's a very vocal, very shrill minority, but it is by no means an oppressed minority.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 9:52 AM on March 28, 2006
I'll take that bet, CunningLinguist.
The AntiDiosticians are some of the most vocal members here; I'm pretty sure that most of the folks who dislike dios have spoken up already. If I said that I didn't care for the guy, I'm ure sthat there'd be at least 5 other assenting voices backing me up within minutes of me posting that sentiment. It's a very vocal, very shrill minority, but it is by no means an oppressed minority.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 9:52 AM on March 28, 2006
Christ, people, go outside and take a fucking walk. It's a WEB SITE.
OMG, SOMEONE USED TEH TAG TO POISON AMERICA.
posted by Eideteker at 9:56 AM on March 28, 2006
OMG, SOMEONE USED TEH TAG TO POISON AMERICA.
posted by Eideteker at 9:56 AM on March 28, 2006
Please don't throw out the baby with the bath water. Please! Just blink responsibly, people.
The blink tag should have been drowned at birth. It does not have any important non-obnoxious use. Filtering it would be a splendid micropony.
posted by George_Spiggott at 9:57 AM on March 28, 2006
The blink tag should have been drowned at birth. It does not have any important non-obnoxious use. Filtering it would be a splendid micropony.
posted by George_Spiggott at 9:57 AM on March 28, 2006
blink on the any of the 4 front pages should be a ban.
blink in a thread == n00b. they should have also added the marquee tag.
dios!
posted by Stynxno at 9:58 AM on March 28, 2006
blink in a thread == n00b. they should have also added the marquee tag.
dios!
posted by Stynxno at 9:58 AM on March 28, 2006
I think it's wonderful that dios learned a new trick for his trollish repertoire--it beats the obfuscating, invariably-authority-figure-supporting bullshit he usually spouts to derail threads.
Good for you, dios! (who says people can't grow and learn, huh?)
posted by amberglow at 9:59 AM on March 28, 2006
Good for you, dios! (who says people can't grow and learn, huh?)
posted by amberglow at 9:59 AM on March 28, 2006
"I wait with bated breath to see if y6y6y6 will have the grace to apologize. Somehow I doubt it"
Well...... I did it on purpose. Apologizing would be........ Well, that would be a Dios sort of move.
We're having a polite discussion about a religion issue. Many people are sharing opinions about why it might be a good idea to have Bible classes in high school. Nothing profound, but still a productive little thread. The fact that it's about religion, and we're getting along is sort of cool.
Then Dios throws a flaming bag of shit into the room, screams obscenities, and slams the door. At which point the thread becomes about Dios.
Then (wft) he comes here and says, "Oh..... Was that bad? I didn't know. Gee, I'm really sorry."
Now which is the bigger jerk? Dios for his ridiculous apology, or me for convictions?
An apology doesn't just automatically wipe the slate clean. Especially when it's honesty so wildly dubious. Can you honestly tell us that you don't think Dios knew that comment was extremely inappropriate?
I know what I did was inappropriate. I did it that way on purpose. We've had the Dios thread before (which I have contributed to very little btw) but it's had no effect. He continues to find new ways to break threads. I am getting on my desk and waving my arms. This is me expressing in no uncertain terms my opinion that MeFi has a serious problem that needs to be addressed. And how often do I do that? Once a year? Twice a year?
posted by y6y6y6 at 10:00 AM on March 28, 2006
Well...... I did it on purpose. Apologizing would be........ Well, that would be a Dios sort of move.
We're having a polite discussion about a religion issue. Many people are sharing opinions about why it might be a good idea to have Bible classes in high school. Nothing profound, but still a productive little thread. The fact that it's about religion, and we're getting along is sort of cool.
Then Dios throws a flaming bag of shit into the room, screams obscenities, and slams the door. At which point the thread becomes about Dios.
Then (wft) he comes here and says, "Oh..... Was that bad? I didn't know. Gee, I'm really sorry."
Now which is the bigger jerk? Dios for his ridiculous apology, or me for convictions?
An apology doesn't just automatically wipe the slate clean. Especially when it's honesty so wildly dubious. Can you honestly tell us that you don't think Dios knew that comment was extremely inappropriate?
I know what I did was inappropriate. I did it that way on purpose. We've had the Dios thread before (which I have contributed to very little btw) but it's had no effect. He continues to find new ways to break threads. I am getting on my desk and waving my arms. This is me expressing in no uncertain terms my opinion that MeFi has a serious problem that needs to be addressed. And how often do I do that? Once a year? Twice a year?
posted by y6y6y6 at 10:00 AM on March 28, 2006
And the usual gang of haters make there appearances be known...
posted by Dreamghost at 10:01 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by Dreamghost at 10:01 AM on March 28, 2006
y6y6y6 writes "Now which is the bigger jerk? Dios for his ridiculous apology, or me for convictions?"
Conviction of what? That making an ass of yourself is a good thing as long as it's in response to someone else making an ass of himself? I'm all for a good callout, but there's a right way to do it and a wrong way, and I think you just wrote the book on the wrong way to call someone out.
posted by chiababe at 10:03 AM on March 28, 2006
Conviction of what? That making an ass of yourself is a good thing as long as it's in response to someone else making an ass of himself? I'm all for a good callout, but there's a right way to do it and a wrong way, and I think you just wrote the book on the wrong way to call someone out.
posted by chiababe at 10:03 AM on March 28, 2006
you need to realize that your personal outrage about dios (an outrage shared by increasingly few people) makes you incapable of responding to him in a sensible and convincing way.
What is the apropriate way to respond to an all caps, blinking block of repeated text?
posted by delmoi at 10:04 AM on March 28, 2006
What is the apropriate way to respond to an all caps, blinking block of repeated text?
posted by delmoi at 10:04 AM on March 28, 2006
there is no appropriate way at all--this was one way.
posted by amberglow at 10:05 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by amberglow at 10:05 AM on March 28, 2006
What is the apropriate way to respond to an all caps, blinking block of repeated text?
By flagging it. Maybe sending the person a email saying "Hey that's not Cool."
posted by Dreamghost at 10:06 AM on March 28, 2006
By flagging it. Maybe sending the person a email saying "Hey that's not Cool."
posted by Dreamghost at 10:06 AM on March 28, 2006
Flag it and move on.
Flagged as "fantastic post/comment."
posted by cribcage at 10:07 AM on March 28, 2006
Flagged as "fantastic post/comment."
posted by cribcage at 10:07 AM on March 28, 2006
Some people like dios, some people don't like dios. Each side seems to think they're in the majority for some reason.
Either way, his comment was quite idiotic, and did trash up the thread, although it seems to have recovered.
posted by delmoi at 10:07 AM on March 28, 2006
Either way, his comment was quite idiotic, and did trash up the thread, although it seems to have recovered.
posted by delmoi at 10:07 AM on March 28, 2006
All caps, blinking and repeating the same phrase over and over, put together, is pretty much the textual equivalent of standing in the middle of the room screaming at the top of your lungs: You're trying to compel attention through overwhelming theatrics rather than rely on the validity of your arguments. It really is the act of a two year old.
posted by George_Spiggott at 10:07 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by George_Spiggott at 10:07 AM on March 28, 2006
"What is the apropriate way to respond to an all caps, blinking block of repeated text?"
If you're running Firefox, the appropriate way is to say to yourself, "Jeez, how could I have not disabled blink before now?" Following that, enter "about:config" into the address bar, go down to the "browser.blink_allowed" entry and set it to false.
As an optional step--but one stemming from a really good rule of thumb--you then mentally file anyone who thinks posting one all caps sentence over and over (blinking or otherwise) is a good thing to do in the "idiot" category. The great thing about this category is that it just doesn't matter whether the idiot in question is a troll or not.
posted by Drastic at 10:08 AM on March 28, 2006
If you're running Firefox, the appropriate way is to say to yourself, "Jeez, how could I have not disabled blink before now?" Following that, enter "about:config" into the address bar, go down to the "browser.blink_allowed" entry and set it to false.
As an optional step--but one stemming from a really good rule of thumb--you then mentally file anyone who thinks posting one all caps sentence over and over (blinking or otherwise) is a good thing to do in the "idiot" category. The great thing about this category is that it just doesn't matter whether the idiot in question is a troll or not.
posted by Drastic at 10:08 AM on March 28, 2006
who are you people to say that dios' apology wasn't sincere? since when did you freedom-haters get the audacity to think your opinions/thoughts mean something and someone else's don't.
if dios hadn't used all caps, blink text and repeated it a few times, would any of you twits have even read it? and if it didn't go against your "my way or the highway" views, would you have even gotten upset about it?
posted by 29 at 10:09 AM on March 28, 2006
if dios hadn't used all caps, blink text and repeated it a few times, would any of you twits have even read it? and if it didn't go against your "my way or the highway" views, would you have even gotten upset about it?
posted by 29 at 10:09 AM on March 28, 2006
Is it a derail if several people have already posted puerile crap before hand? Can't we just have the pointless comments flagged and deleted as was done earlier by jessamyn in the Executive Order thread? If people who wanted to say "fuck bush/christians etc." held their tongues then dios would not feel the urge to post a huge flashing shite in the middle of the thread.
I was tempted to post "It's an elective? So who fucking cares?" in that thread but managed to resist the urge - dios more than likely posted because he's sick of the same old arguments on the Blue taking the piss out of Thicky McHillbilly and his retarded need for Jeebus. The more people pick on dios the more I come to thinking that he must have skin like a rhino to take all the abuse that gets heaped on him. He's braver than I am for sure.
On preview - fuck it. Do what you like, I will continue to flag comments that are shit where ever they may be and hopefully positively contribute to the site in the way I am supposed to. It's supposed to be self-policing not the frigging Stasi. His comment was inappropriate in delivery but spot on as far as content. I will flag it and move the hell onwards.
posted by longbaugh at 10:11 AM on March 28, 2006
I was tempted to post "It's an elective? So who fucking cares?" in that thread but managed to resist the urge - dios more than likely posted because he's sick of the same old arguments on the Blue taking the piss out of Thicky McHillbilly and his retarded need for Jeebus. The more people pick on dios the more I come to thinking that he must have skin like a rhino to take all the abuse that gets heaped on him. He's braver than I am for sure.
On preview - fuck it. Do what you like, I will continue to flag comments that are shit where ever they may be and hopefully positively contribute to the site in the way I am supposed to. It's supposed to be self-policing not the frigging Stasi. His comment was inappropriate in delivery but spot on as far as content. I will flag it and move the hell onwards.
posted by longbaugh at 10:11 AM on March 28, 2006
since when did you freedom-haters get the audacity to think your opinions/thoughts mean something and someone else's don't.
I'm adding that to my "things beyond parody" collection. It's beautiful. Just look at it sitting there, surrounded by its own special glow.
posted by George_Spiggott at 10:14 AM on March 28, 2006
I'm adding that to my "things beyond parody" collection. It's beautiful. Just look at it sitting there, surrounded by its own special glow.
posted by George_Spiggott at 10:14 AM on March 28, 2006
We have a user who makes the site worse for everyone
Speak for yourself. I'm just not buying this weird assertion that dios' only contribution to the site are sly derailments, unless you count the threads broken by the dickheads who post 'paging dios!' to political threads or jump down his throat the moment he makes a comment of whatever sort. (I say that after skimming his recent posting history, and, just in case anyone thinks I'm sticking up for a fellow traveller, I come from a very different part of the political spectrum to dios.)
posted by jack_mo at 10:15 AM on March 28, 2006
Speak for yourself. I'm just not buying this weird assertion that dios' only contribution to the site are sly derailments, unless you count the threads broken by the dickheads who post 'paging dios!' to political threads or jump down his throat the moment he makes a comment of whatever sort. (I say that after skimming his recent posting history, and, just in case anyone thinks I'm sticking up for a fellow traveller, I come from a very different part of the political spectrum to dios.)
posted by jack_mo at 10:15 AM on March 28, 2006
"If people who wanted to say "fuck bush/christians etc." held their tongues then dios would not feel the urge to post a huge flashing shite in the middle of the thread."
The vast majority of comments were supporting the idea of teaching the Bible in high school. The "fuck Christians" sentiment seems to be a figment of your imagination. Again, Dios' comment was to make the thread about something it wasn't, and ruin it in the process.
posted by y6y6y6 at 10:17 AM on March 28, 2006
The vast majority of comments were supporting the idea of teaching the Bible in high school. The "fuck Christians" sentiment seems to be a figment of your imagination. Again, Dios' comment was to make the thread about something it wasn't, and ruin it in the process.
posted by y6y6y6 at 10:17 AM on March 28, 2006
I think longbaugh didn't even read the thread and came into it with some pre-conceived notions of what it would be like. Just like Dios.
And this is just fucking stupid and offensive:
if dios hadn't used all caps, blink text and repeated it a few times, would any of you twits have even read it? and if it didn't go against your "my way or the highway" views, would you have even gotten upset about it?
posted by empath at 10:18 AM on March 28, 2006
And this is just fucking stupid and offensive:
if dios hadn't used all caps, blink text and repeated it a few times, would any of you twits have even read it? and if it didn't go against your "my way or the highway" views, would you have even gotten upset about it?
posted by empath at 10:18 AM on March 28, 2006
I assumed that was a joke. One would certainly hope that was a joke.
posted by Gator at 10:22 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by Gator at 10:22 AM on March 28, 2006
y6y6y6 - I know that thread was doing fairly well until dios stamped the giant blinking disapproval slap bang in the middle. My comment wasn't specifically directed at that one, just the other couple of thousand anti-south, anti-religion, anti-bush threads that MeFi has seen these past few years. I personally agree that his comment was disruptive (and flagged it) but now we have a whole thread with "DUH WHAT DID YOU DO THAT FOR!" comments which is a nightmare for admins to clean up.
I've flagged several pointless comments today which were all dealt with in turn so I know the feature works. I just think that if everyone is so desperate to believe dios is seeking egotistical satisfaction then silently and secretly attaching a flag to the post is the best way to get rid of the comment without giving him whatever satisfaction you ascribe to him.
posted by longbaugh at 10:27 AM on March 28, 2006
I've flagged several pointless comments today which were all dealt with in turn so I know the feature works. I just think that if everyone is so desperate to believe dios is seeking egotistical satisfaction then silently and secretly attaching a flag to the post is the best way to get rid of the comment without giving him whatever satisfaction you ascribe to him.
posted by longbaugh at 10:27 AM on March 28, 2006
"unless you count the threads broken by the dickheads who post 'paging dios!' to political threads"
Right. It's not his fault at all. It's others who lure him into derailing threads.
My point is that he's a disruptive member who always polarizes and rarely contributes. Others have their opinion. This is mine. Dios is an ego driven hypocrite who has a loud and long history of disruption. He brings out our worst.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if we had Bill O'Rielly as a member here? He could contribute to the site by trotting out one specious arguement after another, and then belittling anyone who called him on his facts and logic. He could derail every thread with some trolling fact mangling which would make the site more about him that anything else. Wouldn't that be wonderful?
posted by y6y6y6 at 10:27 AM on March 28, 2006
Right. It's not his fault at all. It's others who lure him into derailing threads.
My point is that he's a disruptive member who always polarizes and rarely contributes. Others have their opinion. This is mine. Dios is an ego driven hypocrite who has a loud and long history of disruption. He brings out our worst.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if we had Bill O'Rielly as a member here? He could contribute to the site by trotting out one specious arguement after another, and then belittling anyone who called him on his facts and logic. He could derail every thread with some trolling fact mangling which would make the site more about him that anything else. Wouldn't that be wonderful?
posted by y6y6y6 at 10:27 AM on March 28, 2006
just the other couple of thousand anti-south, anti-religion, anti-bush
You forgot "freedom-hating".
posted by George_Spiggott at 10:28 AM on March 28, 2006
You forgot "freedom-hating".
posted by George_Spiggott at 10:28 AM on March 28, 2006
You forgot Poland.
posted by shnoz-gobblin at 10:34 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by shnoz-gobblin at 10:34 AM on March 28, 2006
D I O S
posted by pyramid termite at 10:35 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by pyramid termite at 10:35 AM on March 28, 2006
I've got some MP3's of Thicky McHillbilly and his Retarded Need for Jeebus playing live in Charlottesville that totally rawk! I think that their last album was a little too poppy though.
posted by ND¢ at 10:37 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by ND¢ at 10:37 AM on March 28, 2006
OFF TOPIC
Thicky McHillbilly and his Retarded Need for Jeebus would be a great name for a band.
posted by 29 at 10:42 AM on March 28, 2006
Thicky McHillbilly and his Retarded Need for Jeebus would be a great name for a band.
posted by 29 at 10:42 AM on March 28, 2006
If we get rid of dios and others of his ilk, will MetaFilter be nothing but a giant circle jerk?
posted by Maisie Jay at 10:42 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by Maisie Jay at 10:42 AM on March 28, 2006
As opposed to an oblong jerk?
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 10:44 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 10:44 AM on March 28, 2006
i thought it was more like a meta jerk
posted by pyramid termite at 10:45 AM on March 28, 2006
posted by pyramid termite at 10:45 AM on March 28, 2006
We have a user who makes the site worse for everyone.
He doesn't make the site worse for me. Now, people who have knee-jerk, overblown reactions to his comments (and, notably, the statements that they seem to wish he would show up in a given thread and make)...they're not really improving my user experience.
The blink tag is obnoxious in general. That is its function. Obnoxiousness has its place. Deploying it should be a calculated risk: is the idea you're trying to convey with obnoxiousness worth being That Obnoxious Guy in the thread?
And considering how goddam easy it is to supress the blink tag, it's not even a very potent form of obnoxiousness.
posted by cortex at 10:47 AM on March 28, 2006
He doesn't make the site worse for me. Now, people who have knee-jerk, overblown reactions to his comments (and, notably, the statements that they seem to wish he would show up in a given thread and make)...they're not really improving my user experience.
The blink tag is obnoxious in general. That is its function. Obnoxiousness has its place. Deploying it should be a calculated risk: is the idea you're trying to convey with obnoxiousness worth being That Obnoxious Guy in the thread?
And considering how goddam easy it is to supress the blink tag, it's not even a very potent form of obnoxiousness.
posted by cortex at 10:47 AM on March 28, 2006
As opposed to an oblong jerk?
circle jerk: Slang term for male group masturbation (usually referring to a practice of adolescent males).
posted by 29 at 10:47 AM on March 28, 2006
circle jerk: Slang term for male group masturbation (usually referring to a practice of adolescent males).
posted by 29 at 10:47 AM on March 28, 2006
My bad George - I forgot all about our "Promoting the homosexual agenda" threads too...
ND¢ - you should listen to the hip-hop crossover album they did. It's on bootleg but you can d/l it from your favourite p2p service.
posted by longbaugh at 10:47 AM on March 28, 2006
ND¢ - you should listen to the hip-hop crossover album they did. It's on bootleg but you can d/l it from your favourite p2p service.
posted by longbaugh at 10:47 AM on March 28, 2006
Thicky McHillbilly and his Retarded Need for Jeebus would be a great name for a band.
posted by sonofsamiam at 10:47 AM on March 28, 2006
I removed it. Man that was annoying. Dios, dude, don't ever do it again, and take a few days off to think about it. Also, the blink tag is now banned.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 10:52 AM on March 28, 2006 [2 favorites]
posted by mathowie (staff) at 10:52 AM on March 28, 2006 [2 favorites]
This thread is closed to new comments.
Why the hell isn't that disabled?
posted by empath at 9:02 AM on March 28, 2006