Chatfilter? June 6, 2006 8:28 PM Subscribe
Does this AskMe Post qualify for ChatFilter status or not?
No, since it's asking for insight that only a limited number of people will have.
(which is a much better test than "problem to be solved")
posted by cillit bang at 8:31 PM on June 6, 2006
(which is a much better test than "problem to be solved")
posted by cillit bang at 8:31 PM on June 6, 2006
The thing is: Its not chatfilter because the question is "What is an orgy like?" from someone who has never attended one and presumably doesnt want to learn first-hand.
Why they felt the need to add the idiotic: "And, in the interests of this not being strictly chatfilter, what lessons (if any) did you draw from your orgy(ing)?" I do not know.
This isnt really that hard.
posted by vacapinta at 8:33 PM on June 6, 2006
Why they felt the need to add the idiotic: "And, in the interests of this not being strictly chatfilter, what lessons (if any) did you draw from your orgy(ing)?" I do not know.
This isnt really that hard.
posted by vacapinta at 8:33 PM on June 6, 2006
This isnt really that hard.
(insert your own orgy joke here)
posted by yhbc at 8:35 PM on June 6, 2006
(insert your own orgy joke here)
posted by yhbc at 8:35 PM on June 6, 2006
cillit, that's a good point. I think someone would do well to put that in the official guidelines.
That said, could you extend that guideline to apply to commercial products. For example, someone is looking to try out an exfoliating product or a moisturizer.
Would this person's post - "Hi I've never used a moisturer/exfolating product before, so please tell me your favorite brand" - be exempted from chatfilter?
posted by gregb1007 at 8:36 PM on June 6, 2006
That said, could you extend that guideline to apply to commercial products. For example, someone is looking to try out an exfoliating product or a moisturizer.
Would this person's post - "Hi I've never used a moisturer/exfolating product before, so please tell me your favorite brand" - be exempted from chatfilter?
posted by gregb1007 at 8:36 PM on June 6, 2006
"favourite brand" is not "insight", plus a decent percentage of people can give an answer.
posted by cillit bang at 8:45 PM on June 6, 2006
posted by cillit bang at 8:45 PM on June 6, 2006
I think the question is a ploy to see if Insomnia-LJ is back with a new account. "Why yes, just last night I was talking with Bill Gates and and polyamorous partners at an orgy at Cory Doctrow's house..."
posted by LarryC at 8:47 PM on June 6, 2006
posted by LarryC at 8:47 PM on June 6, 2006
cillit bang, well suppose I am a first time car-buyer and I have no idea what model I should get. Wouldn't the question - "I am in the car market for the first time, and I want to know what the best car model is?" - be legitimate?
posted by gregb1007 at 8:53 PM on June 6, 2006
posted by gregb1007 at 8:53 PM on June 6, 2006
Product recommendation threads are never good where there's lots of interchangeable brands or the person's needs aren't highly specific. You just end up with a list of well known brands that the person could have compiled themselves.
posted by cillit bang at 9:11 PM on June 6, 2006
posted by cillit bang at 9:11 PM on June 6, 2006
I missed insomnia leaving. Clue, anybody?
posted by If I Had An Anus at 9:25 PM on June 6, 2006
posted by If I Had An Anus at 9:25 PM on June 6, 2006
it's not chatfilter because i'm hugely interested in the responses.
unlike chatfilter.
or most metatalk posts.
posted by fishfucker at 10:53 PM on June 6, 2006
unlike chatfilter.
or most metatalk posts.
posted by fishfucker at 10:53 PM on June 6, 2006
Heh, LarryC, I was expecting there to be droves of those 'I do this sort of stuff, let me tell you about it in crushingly tedious detail' people in that thread. What is it about organised perverts that makes them think other people give a toss about their 'lifestyle'? I much prefer disorganised perverts.
it's not chatfilter because i'm hugely interested in the responses.
That's always been my yardstick, too ;-)
posted by jack_mo at 2:22 AM on June 7, 2006
it's not chatfilter because i'm hugely interested in the responses.
That's always been my yardstick, too ;-)
posted by jack_mo at 2:22 AM on June 7, 2006
Wouldn't the question - "I am in the car market for the first time, and I want to know what the best car model is?" - be legitimate?
No, not really. But "I'm in the car market for the first time. I'm looking to spend $x, I want a 4 door sedan that gets good gas mileage and has good resale value. What models are for me?" would probably work.
posted by antifuse at 2:25 AM on June 7, 2006 [1 favorite]
No, not really. But "I'm in the car market for the first time. I'm looking to spend $x, I want a 4 door sedan that gets good gas mileage and has good resale value. What models are for me?" would probably work.
posted by antifuse at 2:25 AM on June 7, 2006 [1 favorite]
Wouldn't the question - "I am in the car market for the first time, and I want to know what the best car model is?" - be legitimate?
Yes, but less than ideal. It would be better for the poster to state what he needs/wants in a car in the question itself. As it is, the first few responses will almost certainly be along the lines of "What are you looking for? What needs do you have? How many people do you need it to carry? Do you need a lot of cargo space? Are you looking for efficiency, sportiness, safety, reliability, etc? What's your budget?" Once the asker has answered these followup questions, voila--the original weak question has been transformed into a good one.
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 8:21 AM on June 7, 2006 [1 favorite]
Yes, but less than ideal. It would be better for the poster to state what he needs/wants in a car in the question itself. As it is, the first few responses will almost certainly be along the lines of "What are you looking for? What needs do you have? How many people do you need it to carry? Do you need a lot of cargo space? Are you looking for efficiency, sportiness, safety, reliability, etc? What's your budget?" Once the asker has answered these followup questions, voila--the original weak question has been transformed into a good one.
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 8:21 AM on June 7, 2006 [1 favorite]
FWIW I am the original poster and I have not been to an orgy by the standards presented by the responders, though I've had some good times with other people present (how's that for vague?).
As I hinted in my intro, the question arose out of a FPP about "Eyes Wide Shut". I made a comment in the thread and then asked as an aside whether anyone had ever been in an orgy similar to that in the film. It was actually another poster (fandango_matt) who suggested I make it an AskMeFi and I broadened the query here to orgies in general. As far as I could tell from searching, there's never been an orgy-themed query here before.
Why was I asking the question? Duh, I was curious. For me, one of the greatest things about AskMeFi is that you can have interesting conversations and exchanges with intelligent people about subjects that just are not considered acceptable elsewhere. I had a suspicion there would be some worthwhile comments, and I was right.
I added the "idiotic" query about learning lessons from orgying to prevent just this sort of "is this chatfilter?" knee-jerk response. I'm glad I did too, because the responses which addressed that part of the question were among the more interesting replies (of which there were many).
Thanks to all who responded. And just so you know, my email address is my profile in case anyone would like to, you know, invite me to an orgy.
posted by stinkycheese at 11:01 AM on June 7, 2006
As I hinted in my intro, the question arose out of a FPP about "Eyes Wide Shut". I made a comment in the thread and then asked as an aside whether anyone had ever been in an orgy similar to that in the film. It was actually another poster (fandango_matt) who suggested I make it an AskMeFi and I broadened the query here to orgies in general. As far as I could tell from searching, there's never been an orgy-themed query here before.
Why was I asking the question? Duh, I was curious. For me, one of the greatest things about AskMeFi is that you can have interesting conversations and exchanges with intelligent people about subjects that just are not considered acceptable elsewhere. I had a suspicion there would be some worthwhile comments, and I was right.
I added the "idiotic" query about learning lessons from orgying to prevent just this sort of "is this chatfilter?" knee-jerk response. I'm glad I did too, because the responses which addressed that part of the question were among the more interesting replies (of which there were many).
Thanks to all who responded. And just so you know, my email address is my profile in case anyone would like to, you know, invite me to an orgy.
posted by stinkycheese at 11:01 AM on June 7, 2006
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posted by edgeways at 8:28 PM on June 6, 2006