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After seeing posts like little Miss Professor's object de amour, I don't think AskMeFi should be closed to scorn. Many people that ask questions are only looking for approval, not answers.
posted by matty to Etiquette/Policy at 12:40 AM (55 comments total)

It would help if you linked to what you're talking about.
posted by bob sarabia at 12:51 AM on September 17, 2006


I don't think you're going to get a lot of agreement following your post in that thread. If you did feel that way, it's not clear that was the best way to say so.
posted by allen.spaulding at 1:01 AM on September 17, 2006


I'm assuming this is the thread in question, right?
posted by bob sarabia at 1:08 AM on September 17, 2006


I think most of the posters in that thread managed to not provide approval, as well as lay out the problems for the OP, in relatively strong terms without resorting to scorn and rudeness. your post on the other hand, doesn't answer the question, probably won't convince the OP of anything, and to be honest, makes it look like you have an ax to grind of some sort on this topic (though I can't figure out what it could be).
posted by advil at 1:26 AM on September 17, 2006


You know, the *Fi subdomains could easily expand to include RelationshipFilter. We could even call it ReFi. C'mon, you know you want it.
posted by ninjew at 1:35 AM on September 17, 2006


Why do people complain about the amount of relationship questions? There really aren't that many. This month alone, there have been only 24 questions tagged with it, compared to 87 tagged with music and 45 tagged with mac. Both far outstrip the number of questions related to relationships.
posted by liquorice at 1:52 AM on September 17, 2006


This is a stupid callout.
posted by smorange at 2:46 AM on September 17, 2006


You don't think AskMe should be closed to scorn? What website are you reading, matty? Very nearly the entire point of AskMe is that it is free from scorn. It's there to help and it's supposed to be as free as possible from useless snark, such as your response in the thread. You were right to bring your concerns to MetaTalk, at least according to the site's ordinary protocols, but you aren't going to get anywhere complaining about AskMe needing to be freer with its scorn, and you certainly aren't going to get anywhere after having dumped scorn in an AskMe thread before complaining that people should be freer to do so.
posted by cgc373 at 3:05 AM on September 17, 2006


I don't think AskMeFi should be closed to scorn

Oh god, Ask MeFi SO needs to be closed to scorn. Please, please keep MeFi closed to scorn, or it's gonna wind up so full of snarky, snide, rude, pointless comments that it'll be next to impossible for people to find genuine answers to their questions. Surely you can find enough to heap scorn on (and show what a clever little fellow you are at the same time!) in the blue and the grey.

Everybody, repeat after me:

GREEN SCORN FREE!! GREEN SCORN FREE!! GREEN SCORN FREE!!
posted by flapjax at midnite at 3:11 AM on September 17, 2006


Well, your answer was scornful, and it was rubbish. So I think that's probably another tick in the No Scorn column.
posted by flashboy at 3:17 AM on September 17, 2006


GREEN SCORN FREE!! GREEN SCORN FREE!! GREEN SCORN FREE!!
posted by cgc373 at 3:33 AM on September 17, 2006


Mmm, green scorn tastes like chicken.
posted by liquorice at 3:35 AM on September 17, 2006


Oh, and thanks, bob sarabia, for the link to the topic at hand. MetaTalk callouts like this should oughta require such, if you ask me.
posted by cgc373 at 3:39 AM on September 17, 2006


This reads like a cheap novel, one in which you've made yourself the all-knowing (but oh so delicate) star. Let's develop the novel deeper... "It's so romantic and intruiging - and you're being such a saint by taking his feelings into account... as you spray the situation out to the world for input on (or to broadcast attention to yourself as you hit your own secret 'bigtime'). Have you finally won Daddy's love and affection?"

Give me a break - go fish your novel to a publisher instead of using us as guinnea pigs.
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 4:18 AM on September 17, 2006


Next time, save your *entire* rant for MetaTalk, not just part of it. I've reproduced it here for you, sicne I removed it from AskMe.

I second Delmoi - bang 'em.

Hell, you're so in love with your own intelligence you've already got it figured out anyway, no?

This reads like a cheap novel, one in which you've made yourself the all-knowing (but oh so delicate) star. Let's develop the novel deeper... "It's so romantic and intruiging - and you're being such a saint by taking his feelings into account... as you spray the situation out to the world for input on (or to broadcast attention to yourself as you hit your own secret 'bigtime'). Have you finally won Daddy's love and affection?"

Give me a break - go fish your novel to a publisher instead of using us as guinnea pigs.

I'll save the rest of my rant for MetaTalk.


AskMetafilter is closed to scorn, MetaTalk is not. You're being an asshat on this one.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 4:38 AM on September 17, 2006


Here in the gray, that comment looks almost innocuous, because the gray can harbor vicious, biting, harsh, and unholy devil-spawned rhetoric better than most other webby-places I've seen. But it has no place in the green, matty. None at all.
posted by cgc373 at 4:40 AM on September 17, 2006


Whoops, failure to preview. Right on, jessamyn.
posted by cgc373 at 4:41 AM on September 17, 2006


GREEN CORN'S FREE!! GREEN CORN'S FREE!! GREEN CORN'S FREE!!

And, yes, I think the green should be scorn free as well.
posted by Bugbread at 4:50 AM on September 17, 2006


You want scorn? "Go fish your novel to a publisher" sounds like some whackass Pennsylvania Dutch idiom, as opposed to actual English. Way to be coherent. Not.
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 5:08 AM on September 17, 2006


...sounds like some whackass Pennsylvania Dutch idiom..."

PinkStainlessTail, you have commited a grievous injury upon the entire Pennsylvania Dutch community. Whackass we may be, but surely, dear sir or madam, not that whackass. Now would you please move your motorized conveyance out of my horse-and-buggy's way?
posted by flapjax at midnite at 5:18 AM on September 17, 2006


AskMetafilter is closed to scorn, MetaTalk is not.

Does this mean the pile-on is supposed to start now?
posted by grouse at 6:47 AM on September 17, 2006


*piles on*

What an asshole thing to say. Shut up if you can't help.
posted by mediareport at 7:43 AM on September 17, 2006


Answer me!
posted by davy at 7:59 AM on September 17, 2006


I can't decide whether to respect the consistency of tone or to mock the withering insecurity represented by a self-absorbed asshat askme comment followed by a malformed callout arguing for asshat clearance.
posted by cortex at 7:59 AM on September 17, 2006


There was a project posted that took this tack— scornful advice. Despite a moderatly clever name, The Askhole, the unmitigated and unwarrented single-note scorn makes getting through even a single entry a chore.
So see it as a clear example of why you're wrong and should shut up.
posted by klangklangston at 8:25 AM on September 17, 2006


pop scorn
posted by matteo at 8:27 AM on September 17, 2006


Eh - sometimes I'm wrong. Live moves on...
posted by matty at 8:30 AM on September 17, 2006


How's the "major reconstruction" going on that blog of yours, Matty? It sounds like you fucking need it.
posted by nanojath at 8:32 AM on September 17, 2006


The green is closed to scorn--but here in the gray, we have scorn to spare. Post again when you need some more.
posted by LarryC at 8:35 AM on September 17, 2006


There's a joke in here about Green Quorn but for the life of me I can't be bothered to make it.
posted by allen.spaulding at 8:39 AM on September 17, 2006


GREEN SCORN FREE!! GREEN SCORN FREE!! GREEN SCORN FREE!!
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 8:44 AM on September 17, 2006


Many people that ask questions are only looking for approval, not answers.

a few people that answer questions are only looking for trouble, not helpfulness
posted by pyramid termite at 8:52 AM on September 17, 2006


Burn him! Burn him at the stake!
posted by Khalad at 9:14 AM on September 17, 2006


Scorn free... as free as the wind blows,
as free as the grass grows
when yooooouu're
scooooorrn freeeeeeee....
posted by flapjax at midnite at 9:50 AM on September 17, 2006


Why can't we all just get behind being mean to people?
posted by Roger Dodger at 10:27 AM on September 17, 2006


Free Scorn Green is made of people!
posted by ludwig_van at 10:31 AM on September 17, 2006


Eh - sometimes I'm wrong. Live moves on...

No, no, no... I want to hear the rest of the rant you promised, damnit!
posted by Stauf at 10:35 AM on September 17, 2006


LoL - I'd love to continue the rant but I've already been shown that I was wrong. I'd just have to make stuff up...
posted by matty at 10:44 AM on September 17, 2006


That question has triggered a very strange response from you, matty; not only is the sentiment degraded and repellent, your use of language is disordered -- just barely coherent, in fact, and not at all like your other posts.

Worse, you seem to have no awareness of how you have made yourself look to this little community you've been part of for so long.

You'd better get some help finding out what's going on with this before you find yourself doing something even more inappropriate than you've done here.
posted by jamjam at 11:18 AM on September 17, 2006


After seeing posts like little mister matty's objection au les postes de l'amour, I think MeTa should be given over entirely to scorn. Many people that make call outs are only looking for validation for their jerkish biases, not a better-running community.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 11:33 AM on September 17, 2006


And for Christ's sake, davy, what else could red liquid dripping out of a pig's liver be? Fresca?
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 11:39 AM on September 17, 2006


It could be red cream soda.
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 11:59 AM on September 17, 2006


You know, I'd totally read a ReFi like it was the "how to turn off this bomb" instruction booklet included with a ticking atomic bomb. You all would. Somebody mine this silver.
posted by dong_resin at 1:00 PM on September 17, 2006


I don't think AskMeFi should be closed to scorn. Many people that ask questions are only looking for approval, not answers.

And SCORN is your answer to the problem? Great, let's shoo away the support-seekers by loosing the hounds of snark upon them. That's great. I'm sure you'd enjoy kicking back with a beer and watching that.

YOU may be a problem to which scorn is the answer.
posted by scarabic at 1:22 PM on September 17, 2006



And for Christ's sake, davy, what else could red liquid dripping out of a pig's liver be? Fresca?


if the pig was at an ICP show it could be faygo red pop
posted by quonsar at 2:15 PM on September 17, 2006


And for Christ's sake, davy, what else could red liquid dripping out of a pig's liver be? Fresca?

mad dog 20/20 ... surely you've heard of blind pigs?
posted by pyramid termite at 3:36 PM on September 17, 2006


Here on the net we like to call it 5K0rn.
posted by brain_drain at 7:20 PM on September 17, 2006


I kind of agree here. After all, what this community needs is a bit more scorn.
posted by dg at 7:40 PM on September 17, 2006


*rolls eyes*

I can't fucking believe you just said that.
posted by mediareport at 10:23 PM on September 17, 2006


Every blind pig finds an a-scorn?
posted by Kwine at 10:28 PM on September 17, 2006


The internet is for scorn
The internet is for scorn
Why d'you think the net was born?
It's scorn, scorn, scorn!
posted by MrMustard at 1:52 AM on September 18, 2006


Mean Mr. Mustard
Posts in the gray
Posts in the blue
Heapin' his scorn on you
Piles it on from evening til morn
Says that's why the ne-eht was born
Don't you know the man loves his scorn
Such a mean old man!
Such a mean old man!
posted by flapjax at midnite at 3:52 AM on September 18, 2006


BTW, MrMustard, nothing personal... just couldn't resist, with your name and all :)
posted by flapjax at midnite at 4:26 AM on September 18, 2006


Sheesh, I expected some trainwreck of a question, possibly including the ethics of declawing or crate-training one's SO before/after having a birds-and-bees talk with their transgender step-nephew. After reading the post, I can't even imagine why THIS relationship question was called out. Really, this was found to be the worstest example of RelationshipApprovalFilter ever? She explained the situation without histronics or overly defensive language, and asked several clear questions that would be well-answered by diverse reactions/experiences. Huh.

Oh well. Back to putting the scorn where it belongs. SCORN! SCORN! SCORN!
posted by desuetude at 9:47 AM on September 18, 2006


I betcha it's a viral marketing thing, and we'll see a movie about a nubile young co-ed and a smart aging prof (Bill Murray?) any day now....ask Mifi: the movie.
posted by DenOfSizer at 3:50 PM on September 18, 2006


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