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This kind of thing is typical of this thing
posted by Burhanistan to Etiquette/Policy at 7:02 AM (121 comments total) 2 users marked this as a favorite

First post!
posted by and hosted from Uranus at 7:14 AM on January 22, 2007


Chicken! (Or the egg?)
posted by and hosted from Uranus at 7:21 AM on January 22, 2007


Obviate the question with the new RonCo Omelette Rotisserie!
posted by cortex at 7:36 AM on January 22, 2007


Down with this sort of thing!
posted by Smart Dalek at 7:47 AM on January 22, 2007


Please feel free to explain what exactly you mean. If you mean econous can be creepy, yeah we know that. If you think in the instance you link something shoudl be done about it, please feel free to use your words.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 7:51 AM on January 22, 2007


What? They closed the wrong thread!
posted by and hosted from Uranus at 7:52 AM on January 22, 2007


Well, I suppose the remark about the prophets engaging in oral sex kind of miffed me. But in general amidst all the scrolling text econous stands out as one in particular need of flagellation. But then I reread cortex's didactic missive and this all made more sense.

but it still would be good to see some flagellation
posted by Burhanistan at 7:58 AM on January 22, 2007


Burhanistan I suspect you are indeed about to see some flagellation.
posted by LarryC at 7:59 AM on January 22, 2007


Pardon me, that was loquacious, not cortex, who spun out that wisdom.
posted by Burhanistan at 8:01 AM on January 22, 2007


What? They closed the wrong thread!

My argument would be that perhaps people were commening in the wrong thread, but generally in the case of accidental doubles, we leave the first one. Otherwise, if we have to decide based on things like number/quality of comments, it's a nasty quagmire. I'm sure people will adjust.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 8:05 AM on January 22, 2007


Seriously. I can't even spell didacitate.

God DAMMIT!
posted by cortex at 8:05 AM on January 22, 2007


And they call it pupppppppy loooooove.....
posted by fixedgear at 8:12 AM on January 22, 2007


But Astroz Zombie 2 is on a flight for Tuskaloosa and will not be able to repost his comment for hours!
posted by Astro Zombie at 8:17 AM on January 22, 2007


Wait, let me get this straight.

Someone said something rude on metafilter??????
posted by crackingdes at 8:18 AM on January 22, 2007


Isn't it de rigeur to dig up at least 2 comments before dragging someone into MeTa for their "typical" bad behavior?
posted by mediareport at 8:22 AM on January 22, 2007


I was going to say something about not fighting with my ferrous freres in the other thread but it just seems awkward now.
posted by Iron Rat at 8:22 AM on January 22, 2007


I entirely agree with something that someone said somewhere, and I couldn't have said whatever it was better myself.
posted by flashboy at 8:25 AM on January 22, 2007


Someone said something rude on metafilter??????

It's OK, he's British, he can't help it.
posted by octothorpe at 8:25 AM on January 22, 2007


Isn't it de rigeur to dig up at least 2 comments before dragging someone into MeTa for their "typical" bad behavior?
posted by mediareport


Ok, just for you: Here is a small sampling.
posted by Burhanistan at 8:33 AM on January 22, 2007


The multiple question marks?????
posted by OmieWise at 8:34 AM on January 22, 2007


Well, Burhanistan, at least the first two of those comments are responses to other comments. The first one, in particular, is akin to A Modest Proposal by Swift. You do know that Swift didn't actually advocate eating babies, don't you?
posted by OmieWise at 8:38 AM on January 22, 2007


what about them??????
posted by crackingdes at 8:38 AM on January 22, 2007


And, I should avoid crossing over into "real" life, but this question I posted to him previously went unanswered.

Not that he should feel obligated to respond, but it seems that something is awry with him and he should address it rather than it spilling out on a semi-accountable forum*such as metafilter. But anyways, I digress.

* semi-accountable meaning that one generates a posting history and can add one's own actual personal information into one's profile if desired.
posted by Burhanistan at 8:39 AM on January 22, 2007


Is this the place where we do the thing with the other thing?
posted by Kwine at 8:41 AM on January 22, 2007


Uh, Swift didn't advocate eating babies.

Oh, shit. I have made a terrible mistake.
posted by Astro Zombie at 8:43 AM on January 22, 2007


crackingdes writes "what about them??????"

That comment was supposed to come after the one about somebody being British and unable to help it. Which comment came right after yours, the one with multiple question marks. It was a comment on a comment, which was really a question about a comment about a comment. A throwaway line, meant to be mildly amusing, to highlight the absurd juxtapositions that a thread on MetaFilter sometimes induces, and the relatively sophisticated level of parsing that it can take to get through even a short post filled with one liners. I don't think I need to point out that the comment was not meant to withstand sustained scrutiny, nor can it.
posted by OmieWise at 8:57 AM on January 22, 2007


Babies are flabby. Even Irish babies. Forcibly aborted second trimester Irish Fetuses are much, much leaner, and the liquor hasn't had time to leave their systems, yet, so they come pre-glazed.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 8:57 AM on January 22, 2007


[Not... Well, okay - that was pretty racist]
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 8:58 AM on January 22, 2007


I always thought he was just a really lame favorites whore, but the allegation of sock puppetry makes sense.

This sounds like a case for the MeFi Defective Club!
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 9:00 AM on January 22, 2007


You do know that Swift didn't actually advocate eating babies, don't you?

What? That's—that's just—

I mean, he wrote—you, you, he—

Oh god. Oh christing hell.

*tears Swift poster off wall, weeps into pillow*
posted by cortex at 9:05 AM on January 22, 2007 [2 favorites]


Here is a small sampling.

Yes, much better. Work a little for your callouts.
posted by mediareport at 9:14 AM on January 22, 2007


Careful now.
posted by ninthart at 9:26 AM on January 22, 2007


If he is a sock-puppet, then he has a real life version too:
posted by empath at 9:32 AM on January 22, 2007


Lost to history are the dozens of callouts for Swift's access to the small press be removed because he was being 'mean' and 'in bad taste', while his defenders insisted he was merely advocating for increased modesty among the braggardly and wanton Irish.
posted by ardgedee at 9:33 AM on January 22, 2007 [1 favorite]


I'll never forgive Swift for costing Kerry the election. Him and his fucking Irish boats.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 9:43 AM on January 22, 2007


man what the hell. can someone please do a quality callout to make up for this piece of crap?
posted by StrasbourgSecaucus at 9:43 AM on January 22, 2007


empath: "If he is a sock-puppet, then he has a real life version too:"

This is what I've been looking for for a long, long time: a real-life sock-puppet.
posted by koeselitz at 9:45 AM on January 22, 2007


This is what I've been looking for for a long, long time: a real-life sock-puppet.

Here you go.
posted by Astro Zombie at 9:51 AM on January 22, 2007


If he is a sock-puppet, then he has a real life version too

Yeah! Huh. My "smells like sock" reaction is pretty much shot to hell, then. I need a new theory.
posted by cortex at 9:52 AM on January 22, 2007


this question I posted to him previously went unanswered.

Frankly, Burhanistan, I find your singling-out of econous and your public accusation that he is a sex offender far more offensive than any of the obviously fictional aristocratic comments he has made.
posted by chrismear at 9:55 AM on January 22, 2007


Lost to history are the dozens of callouts for Swift's access to the small press be removed because he was being 'mean' and 'in bad taste', while his defenders insisted he was merely advocating for increased modesty among the braggardly and wanton Irish.

I completely can't understand what this means. Dozens of "callouts" in history? "small press?" 'mean' and 'in bad taste' delineated with single quotes?

Here's a possible reading: Though their complaints are not common knowledge, some people thought that Swift was vulgar and shouldn't be allowed to print things. But other people disagreed, suggesting that Swift was satirizing the excesses of the Irish people.

If this is the right reading, what does it have to do with anything? If not, is it some elaborate joke that I'm not processing? This is what I am hoping for, as I like elaborate jokes. any help for me, ardegee?
posted by Kwine at 10:02 AM on January 22, 2007


It was a joke, Kwine. Suggesting the type of reception Swift would have received around Meta.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 10:04 AM on January 22, 2007


Got it, thanks IRFH.

*adjusts humorometer*
posted by Kwine at 10:07 AM on January 22, 2007


econous once commented at my lousy blog, and all of his comments are creepily funny rather than seriously creepy, so I think he gets a pass.

Burhanistan, on the other hand, is a different matter. He's uninterested in politics, but hates the war in Iraq, and apparently all war, possibly because he is a devotee, or at least a fan, of Ouspensky and Gurdjieff. Strangely, he seems to believe that food allergies are the cause of most mental illness, and that the solution is a good colon cleansing. On review, I think he's a good guy, if a bit scatologically-minded, and should be given a pass as well.

How's shitbusters.com going?
posted by anotherpanacea at 10:09 AM on January 22, 2007 [1 favorite]


(Sorry, I'm avoiding an irritating task.)
posted by anotherpanacea at 10:13 AM on January 22, 2007


And, I should avoid crossing over into "real" life...

(Looks around). No... this is still the Meta, man.
posted by nanojath at 10:15 AM on January 22, 2007


That explains the crap callout, then. He's just cleansing.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 10:15 AM on January 22, 2007


I came here to start a thread objecting to the posting of an actual jailhouse torture rape video on the front page, but it looks like it's get in line time to piss and moan about objectionable content. So perhaps I shall flag it and move on.
posted by nanojath at 10:17 AM on January 22, 2007


i think food allergies are the cause of most metatalk callouts.
posted by empath at 10:18 AM on January 22, 2007


My goodness. All things are laid bare. To be fair, though, most of those scat related comments were pulled from the "I like to poo?" metatalk thread from the other day. And, I've reversed my position on colon cleansing (if you read that much you'll see I only did it once and had no adverse reactions). Not a devotee of Gurdjieff or Ouspensky but have been helped by their writings and contact with said devotees.

More than you cared to know.
posted by Burhanistan at 10:22 AM on January 22, 2007


Dear Ask Metafilter: In a hypothetical battle for supremacy, who would win: obsessed with rape or obsessed with poo?
posted by nanojath at 10:29 AM on January 22, 2007


why can't they both be winners?
posted by empath at 10:30 AM on January 22, 2007


(P.S. The Fellowship of Friends from anotherpanacea's link is not really connected with the Gurdjieff people and is generally regarded as a cult)
posted by Burhanistan at 10:34 AM on January 22, 2007


JESUS DOMINANT. I DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM.
posted by quonsar at 10:39 AM on January 22, 2007 [1 favorite]


The problem is that Burhanistan is a bit of a po-faced prannet. Or that econous is funny. I dunno, really.
posted by jack_mo at 11:05 AM on January 22, 2007


All this is making my want to poop.
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:05 AM on January 22, 2007


making your what want to poop?
posted by empath at 11:19 AM on January 22, 2007


I think it makes his butt want to poop. Pooh pooh comes out of the butt, if I remember correctly.
posted by jefbla at 11:25 AM on January 22, 2007


What's creepy about thinking Kattullus is kinda hot? I think that at least four times a day.

(Of course, unlike econous, I'm married to the guy.)

(Unless there's some terrible back history that I don't know about.)
posted by grapefruitmoon at 11:26 AM on January 22, 2007


What's creepy is a guy who posts ironic rape comments telling you he thinks you're hot on the internet.
posted by koeselitz at 11:30 AM on January 22, 2007


I just consulted with Kattullus, who wasn't at all creeped out by being told he was hot.

Then again, I don't think he knew about the ironic rape comments, but he has a high creep-out threshold, so I don't think it would make a difference, really.
posted by grapefruitmoon at 11:33 AM on January 22, 2007


Discussion in my home:

me: "Are you creeped out now that you know that econous makes ironic rape comments?"
Kattullus: "Nope."
(long pause.)
Kattullus: "I'm trying to decide if I'd be more or less creeped out if he raped ironic comments."
posted by grapefruitmoon at 11:35 AM on January 22, 2007 [1 favorite]


Ironic rape. Trapped in an elevator at a Hipsters Convention. Beyond creepy. Like amnesiac identity theft.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 11:42 AM on January 22, 2007


Well, the results are in. econous isn't creepy.
posted by koeselitz at 12:04 PM on January 22, 2007


Ironic rape is slipping some roofies into a PBR and then accidentally drinking it yourself... only to wake up hours later naked, alone, and in a band.
posted by yeti at 12:07 PM on January 22, 2007 [11 favorites]


I think maybe we should've known better than trusting somebody named Kattullus on what's creepy and what's not, though.
posted by koeselitz at 12:08 PM on January 22, 2007


It's not funny because it's rude, it's funny because it looks like it's funny because it's rude.
posted by flashboy at 12:09 PM on January 22, 2007


"dude, were you hitting on my girlfriend?"

"nah, i was just being econous"
posted by dflemingdotorg at 12:15 PM on January 22, 2007


...not an ironic rape comment, more a criticism of people quite willing to judge but not to help. To stand aside as micro-atrocities are committed before their eyes and to excuse inaction as justified and right. I hope this callout means I'll be receiving no more txt messages from Burhanistan. Hopefully the large parcels of air will stop as well, or arrive at a more godly hour. I mean butt-fucking Allah on a spit give it a rest. Though keep sending the flowers.
posted by econous at 12:28 PM on January 22, 2007 [1 favorite]


"...and in a band."
HA!
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 12:31 PM on January 22, 2007


...not an ironic rape comment, more a criticism of people quite willing to judge but not to help. To stand aside as micro-atrocities are committed before their eyes and to excuse inaction as justified and right. I hope this callout means I'll be receiving no more txt messages from Burhanistan. Hopefully the large parcels of air will stop as well, or arrive at a more godly hour. I mean butt-fucking Allah on a spit give it a rest. Though keep sending the flowers.
posted by econous


What a lovely turn of phrase. Strangely, though, he's not that creepy on reddit.
posted by Burhanistan at 12:32 PM on January 22, 2007


Ironic rape is slipping some roofies into a PBR and then accidentally drinking it yourself... only to wake up hours later naked, alone, and in a band.

then next time, you try autoerotically asphyxiating yourself with a white belt, but you pass out on your keyboard while logged onto Myspace, accidentally creating a page for your band that gets it signed by a major label, causing all your former friends to brand you a sellout.
posted by drjimmy11 at 12:35 PM on January 22, 2007 [1 favorite]


My just pooped.
posted by Astro Zombie at 12:39 PM on January 22, 2007


By the way, "this kind of thing is typical of this thing" is my new favorite phrase. It is lilting and beautiful.

By which I mean: for fuck's sake, Burhanistan, you haven't been clear or concise for even one word of this thread. Could you just try for a moment to say why we're all sitting here staring at this silly thread on our monitors? Or address that unfortunate anomaly by apologizing and moving on?
posted by koeselitz at 12:40 PM on January 22, 2007


Um. Okay. Sorry for the unfortunate anomaly that I forced everyone to stare at. Please go on about your business, feeling refreshed and blissfully unaware of what you just read.
posted by Burhanistan at 12:42 PM on January 22, 2007


Metafilter: slipping some roofies into a PBR and then accidentally drinking it yourself.
posted by YoBananaBoy at 12:44 PM on January 22, 2007


koeselitz: Burhanistan is obsessed with econous, whom he apparently finds offensive, which is, if not ironic, probably pretty pointless, since the linked comments are quite obviously intended to be offensive, if not necessarily heartfelt, and therefore might be labelled "ironic" by someone who doesn't quite grasp the true meaning of the word.

[NOT PRESCRIPTIVIST!]
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 12:47 PM on January 22, 2007


Less callout, more poop jokes plz.
posted by Durin's Bane at 12:48 PM on January 22, 2007


I call bullshit, or poopout, or stuff on this type of thing.
posted by Kirth Gerson at 12:53 PM on January 22, 2007


Oh, for heaven's sake, Burhanistan! Why don't you kiss econous instead of talking him to death?!

Youth is wasted on the wrong people!

*slams screen door*
posted by gigawhat? at 12:54 PM on January 22, 2007


Well, yeah, I got that, flo. But if Burhanistan could just getting around to saying that he finds econous offensive, then the rest of us could get around to saying why he's wrong. Or something.

Anyhow, this kind of thing is typical of this thing.

posted by koeselitz at 1:13 PM on January 22, 2007


I'm sorry if I sound angry. Really, I'm more amused than anything else. But we've just had a rash of poorly-phrased callouts lately, and I'm wondering why.

I tend to prefer well-worded hatred and oblivion to badly-worded ambiguity that leads to poop jokes.
posted by koeselitz at 1:15 PM on January 22, 2007


Make shoutouts, not callouts.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 1:19 PM on January 22, 2007 [1 favorite]


So you want Burhanistan to say what he means instead of mean what he says?
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 1:19 PM on January 22, 2007


we've just had a rash of poorly-phrased callouts lately

There's a cream you can get for that.

Make shoutouts, not callouts.

Hugs, not flags.
posted by cortex at 1:22 PM on January 22, 2007


Metafilter: feeling refreshed and blissfully unaware of what you just read
posted by octothorpe at 1:23 PM on January 22, 2007


Burhanistan regards me with a cool, vast and unsympathetic intellect. No one would have believed in the early days of 2007 that my complacent comments would acquire such scrutiny. Yet across the vast info-space of the Internet envious Burhanistan drew his plans.
posted by econous at 1:26 PM on January 22, 2007 [4 favorites]


But we've just had a rash of poorly-phrased callouts lately, and I'm wondering why.

I think people are being wussy. They want to say someone sucks without actually coming out and saying it in case they get yelled at or hurt someone's feelings.

Calling someone out as offensive or bad or whatever is mean. Embrace this. Let it out. Be mean. It's much more amusing and a lot less confusing for the rest of us.
posted by shelleycat at 1:39 PM on January 22, 2007


Metafilter: badly-worded ambiguity that leads to poop jokes

(sorry, it was irresistible)
posted by kyleg at 1:46 PM on January 22, 2007


It's your thing...do whatcha wanna do...I can't tellya ...who to sock it to...
posted by jonmc at 1:47 PM on January 22, 2007


There's a cream you can get for that.

That's the good news. The bad news? It's elephant urine, and you have to drink it.

Hugs, not flags.

Get yer goddamn filthy ape-arms offa me, you dirty hippy.
posted by loquacious at 1:53 PM on January 22, 2007


Odi et amo. Quare id faciam fortasse requiris. Nescio, sed fieri sentio, et excrucior.
posted by ericb at 1:59 PM on January 22, 2007


This thread made me curious, and so I looked up econous to see if it was a word that I just didn't know. The dictionaries don't have an entry, but I was suggested "acolous," which means "limbless," and I will work it into my vocabulary forthwith.
I think I'll use it to mean "ineffective, without ability." For example, I'd catagorize this as an acolous callout.
Though maybe I'll reform the meaning later to be closer to the original sense.
(Agynous means "without female organs; male")
posted by klangklangston at 2:10 PM on January 22, 2007


Well, I always took econous to mean "environmental mind." That is, eco = oikos, greek for "place, habitat, or dwelling" (as in "ecology") and nous = greek for "mind."

But maybe that's just me.
posted by koeselitz at 2:54 PM on January 22, 2007 [1 favorite]


I figured 'econous' was derived from Gr. oikos 'house' (from whence we get 'ecology') + nous (which can be translated as 'mind or intellect,' 'the first and purest emanation of the One, regarded as the self-contemplating order of the universe,' 'Good sense; shrewdness,' or simply 'our' depending on the source). But what do I know.
posted by jtron at 2:57 PM on January 22, 2007 [1 favorite]


dammit, koeselitz.
posted by jtron at 2:58 PM on January 22, 2007


Noos is Greek.
posted by Burhanistan at 3:02 PM on January 22, 2007


Is he Canadian?
posted by anotherpanacea at 3:02 PM on January 22, 2007


Ack... no. He's from the UK.
posted by anotherpanacea at 3:09 PM on January 22, 2007


koeselitz: "But maybe that's just me."

Maybe not.
posted by koeselitz at 3:10 PM on January 22, 2007


I know I'm a thing, but what thing?

Hopefully not an octopus getting shoved up some girl's vagina.
posted by liquorice at 3:12 PM on January 22, 2007


MetaFilter: Not an octopus getting shoved up some girl's vagina.
posted by loquacious at 4:04 PM on January 22, 2007


This kind of thing is typical of Thing 1 and Thing 2.
posted by cortex at 4:11 PM on January 22, 2007


I ask you not to condemn the puppeteer before you have witnessed the glory and depravity of his puppetry. If econous is the puppeteer in this game, where are his puppets and would we recognize them if we saw one? If the octopus has eight arms, does he have eight puppets?
posted by weretable and the undead chairs at 5:06 PM on January 22, 2007


"This kind of thing is typical of Thing 1 and Thing 2."
posted by mr_crash_davis at 5:21 PM on January 22, 2007


Burhanistan regards me with a cool, vast and unsympathetic intellect. No one would have believed in the early days of 2007 that my complacent comments would acquire such scrutiny. Yet across the vast info-space of the Internet envious Burhanistan drew his plans.

I now find myself unable to dislike Wells-riffing econous. Dammit.
posted by languagehat at 5:50 PM on January 22, 2007


I know. It's like wanting to hug a giant isopod or an unidentified puddle of putrid, viscous goo.

He writes many things that make me laugh and things that make me laugh that shouldn't and things that make me gape with irrational amounts of irritation - but something smells funny. It could be a gym sock in dire need of washing, or it could be a fine, fine cheese and very good to eat.

Then I find myself getting all Platonic and thinking "Fuck it, it's all shadows on the wall anyway."
posted by loquacious at 6:36 PM on January 22, 2007


econo-US -- America, discounted.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 7:59 PM on January 22, 2007


this thread was endlessly entertaining.

i love you all so very much.

(please note that tomorrow i will hate you with an indescribable passion.)
posted by brina at 8:59 PM on January 22, 2007


What's wrong with you people? Have a drink and go to bed already.
posted by [more inside] at 9:09 PM on January 22, 2007


Have a drink and go to bed already.

But it's just after 6.30 pm. Why am I being sent to bed early?
posted by shelleycat at 9:38 PM on January 22, 2007


...and it's 2:45 in the afternoon here. No beds here at the office, let alone drinks. Bummer.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 9:45 PM on January 22, 2007


Ok. I'm having a drink, but only because you forced me to. But you can't make me go to bed until I want to!
posted by loquacious at 9:50 PM on January 22, 2007


Shit. I fell asleep. What are we talking about?
posted by loquacious at 9:58 PM on January 22, 2007


I feel like Philippe from Achewood and I want to run around this thread giving hugs.

I think that definitely calls for a drink.
posted by grapefruitmoon at 9:59 PM on January 22, 2007


I am watching this tv show "inuyasha" and someone needs to explain to me exactly what I am seeing here.
posted by weretable and the undead chairs at 10:52 PM on January 22, 2007


what a lovely thread. the literature major in me is doing a little dance.
posted by shmegegge at 11:04 PM on January 22, 2007


weretable, you are seeing the worst that japan has to offer this side of sailor moon.
posted by shmegegge at 11:05 PM on January 22, 2007


I'm so mad I went to bed early last night and missed this thread. Just when I think Metafilter is getting all cuddly and bunny-oriented, Econous comes along and re-sets my Irony-o-meter. I think this thread has turned 360 degrees, so congrats Econous!
posted by Wilder at 1:49 AM on January 23, 2007


you are seeing the worst that japan has to offer this side of sailor moon.

Clearly, you are unfamiliar with the concept of Shitting Dick-Nipples. Lucky you.
posted by longtime_lurker at 11:50 AM on January 24, 2007


Lucky indeed. I can't believe that I am familiar.
posted by cortex at 12:06 PM on January 24, 2007


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