ask.met... er, I mean provoke.metafilter? March 12, 2007 7:07 PM   Subscribe

Is this in any way acceptable? By which I mean posting a question that you "know" will be flame-bait, and then taunting those who answer?
posted by CKmtl to Etiquette/Policy at 7:07 PM (43 comments total)

jinx.
posted by Listener at 7:12 PM on March 12, 2007


Ban this asshole.
posted by Methylviolet at 7:14 PM on March 12, 2007


In other words, I was posting the same question at the same time as you. Dunno if it's going to show up. You said it better anyway.
posted by Listener at 7:15 PM on March 12, 2007


It is not acceptable. A deletion would be most appropriate.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 7:16 PM on March 12, 2007 [1 favorite]


oh the power!
posted by nj_subgenius at 7:16 PM on March 12, 2007


Clearly our best just isn't good enough for him.

Oh, and ban him.
posted by ztdavis at 7:18 PM on March 12, 2007


sub-standard troll.
posted by signal at 7:20 PM on March 12, 2007


Dropkick dropkick?
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur at 7:20 PM on March 12, 2007


posting a question that you "know" will be flame-bait, and then taunting those who answer?

chicks dig that.
posted by jonmc at 7:21 PM on March 12, 2007


A nice Mormon boy shouldn't be asking such questions.
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 7:21 PM on March 12, 2007


(Or, well, maybe at least a stern talking-to).
posted by ztdavis at 7:22 PM on March 12, 2007


But a demented fitness freak should. From his user profile.
posted by Listener at 7:23 PM on March 12, 2007


He shouldn't be banned, but he should be forced to film commercials about the horrors female genital itching, as well as not being fresh "down there".
posted by muddgirl at 7:23 PM on March 12, 2007


"Daaamn, Metafilter, you have niiiice titties"
posted by ND¢ at 7:23 PM on March 12, 2007 [1 favorite]


Ban him? Can't say I'd miss him, but there's some top-notch sarcasm in that thread. It's not a total loss.
posted by smorange at 7:24 PM on March 12, 2007


Silly man. Language is not neccessary for seduction. I simply walk in, order a drink, and sit there licking my eyebrows.
posted by jonmc at 7:26 PM on March 12, 2007 [1 favorite]


That question sucks. Totally lame.
posted by loiseau at 7:26 PM on March 12, 2007


The question's pretty wonky, but I'm pretty sure sexism/racism/whatnot has been covered before... It's the responses that got to me.

-Question about what women like (as broad-strokes as that is)
-Answers from actual women, with years of experience being women and (mostly) having men try to pique their interests.
-'Your answers are pedestrian, and do not gel with my preconceived notions. Wrong.'

Theoretically, there should be a "Profit." step, but I don't see where and how.
posted by CKmtl at 7:33 PM on March 12, 2007 [1 favorite]


Taking a look at past questions, this seems to be a thing dropkick does - post something kind of vague/odd, then over moderate/bait.
posted by crabintheocean at 7:33 PM on March 12, 2007


moderate/bait.

new word: moderbait.
posted by jonmc at 7:34 PM on March 12, 2007 [1 favorite]


I think there's a good question in there, it's just being mangled so badly by his miseducation and poor, sexist expression. I guess if I were to try and ask it, and I'm certainly no sociologist or gender studies professional, I would say "Women are often said to use qualifiers in language as a marker of deference or uncertainty, seeking validation, which is sometimes thought to be heterosexually attractive. What gendered language styles or patterns do men successfully use to present themselves as sexually available or masculine?" Is that answerable?
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur at 7:36 PM on March 12, 2007


Honey, I've known nice Mormon boys. NO WONDER he's trying to get laid.
posted by miss lynnster at 7:37 PM on March 12, 2007


I would say "Women are often said to use qualifiers in language as a marker of deference or uncertainty, seeking validation, which is sometimes thought to be heterosexually attractive. What gendered language styles or patterns do men successfully use to present themselves as sexually available or masculine?" Is that answerable?

That's an awfully verbose way of saying 'how do I talk if want to get laid?" dont'cha think?
posted by jonmc at 7:39 PM on March 12, 2007


Dropkick is a moderbaitor. Ewww.
posted by miss lynnster at 7:39 PM on March 12, 2007 [1 favorite]


Women like to watch you moderbait in front of them, (possibly over them). It's sexy.
posted by crabintheocean at 7:41 PM on March 12, 2007


jonmc: not now that I realize I don't know the answer to it, myself? (though I suspect the answer is "only women talk to be sexy, men DO to be sexy!" amirite?)
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur at 7:41 PM on March 12, 2007


If a moderbaiter manages to seduce a woman, does that make the woman a moderfucker?
posted by jonmc at 7:42 PM on March 12, 2007


It's the responses that got to me.[then you quoted part of my response.]

I gave the guy the benefit of the doubt. I think lots of things are stupid, but I try not to judge. Clearly in this case, I was wrong to take him seriously at first.
posted by Listener at 7:43 PM on March 12, 2007


Metafilter: Make room for the intelligentsia!
posted by saraswati at 7:43 PM on March 12, 2007 [1 favorite]


If it makes you feel any better Listener, I assume everything is stupid until proven otherwise. It really makes for much less thought work in my day. ;)
posted by FlamingBore at 7:46 PM on March 12, 2007 [2 favorites]


Make room for the intelligentsia!

One of Danny Thomas' later projects, co-starring Charlie Rose and Stephen Hawking.
posted by jonmc at 7:47 PM on March 12, 2007 [1 favorite]


Whoops! Another chronic moderbation spill from Aisle 59581!
posted by y2karl at 7:49 PM on March 12, 2007


I think there's a good question in there, it's just being mangled so badly by his miseducation and poor, sexist expression. I guess if I were to try and ask it, and I'm certainly no sociologist or gender studies professional, I would say "Women are often said to use qualifiers in language as a marker of deference or uncertainty, seeking validation, which is sometimes thought to be heterosexually attractive. What gendered language styles or patterns do men successfully use to present themselves as sexually available or masculine?" Is that answerable?

No.

However, in hindsight my question certainly could have been worded better since it attracted the lowest common denominator. I despise vulgarity.

My question wasn't how to seduce women, it was how to engage and excite them. There is a difference, although some people have a one track mind.

I'm not afraid to ask a question in class or in church or anywhere else, no matter how stupid it may seem on the surface to some people. Sometimes I actually even get the answer I'm really looking for, and it's worth the trouble.
posted by dropkick at 7:50 PM on March 12, 2007


I despise vulgarity.

*belches*
posted by jonmc at 7:51 PM on March 12, 2007


I'm sure this has something to do with the poor Palestinians.

As for the original question about what to say to get laid, finding some way to casually mention "I have a lot of money" and "my penis is huge" always worked for me.
posted by davy at 7:52 PM on March 12, 2007


What he doesn't realize is that all females have a small thermal exhaust port right below the main port. A precise hit will start a chain reaction which should result in them instantly falling in love.
posted by Rhomboid at 7:53 PM on March 12, 2007 [11 favorites]


Just for the record, dropkick was formerly known as rinkjustice, who was banned for abusing multiple accounts, including one episode where he pretended to be his daughter, if I recall correctly. jessamyn mentioned last October, "We've got a note in the account to keep an eye on it, and if the dropkick account gets out of hand, then it's permaban-by-IP time."

Not commenting on the value of his latest attempt to stir the waters, just noting there's a kinda fucked-up history here.
posted by mediareport at 7:54 PM on March 12, 2007


It might make for an interesting sociology-ish paper. In the event that there's an actual college termpaper in the works, for his sake I hope it's more thought out and written better... I can just imagine a TA going nuts with 'unwarranted assumption', 'source?', 'how does this follow?' margin notes.
posted by CKmtl at 7:54 PM on March 12, 2007


I despise vulgarity.

Then maybe the cheesy little winking emoticon at the end of this phrase was a bad choice:
FYI: This is for a communications essay I'm researching in college, but I'd be a liar if I said I wasn't personally interested in the answers ;)
posted by chococat at 7:55 PM on March 12, 2007 [1 favorite]


Huh. Well, the thing is... most men only actively try to engage & excite us when they want to get laid. So that made ya suspicious right there.
posted by miss lynnster at 7:56 PM on March 12, 2007


I can just imagine a TA going nuts with 'unwarranted assumption', 'source?', 'how does this follow?' margin notes.

Interspersed with the occasional 'does she have a sister?" and 'what's her number?' of course.
posted by jonmc at 7:56 PM on March 12, 2007


My god, some people just really need better hobbies.
posted by FlamingBore at 7:57 PM on March 12, 2007


This is a mess. MeTa double deleted, I'm closing this, and that trainwreck of a thread is getting nixed too. dropkick, you've got history with Matt that I'm not up on; please drop him an email if you can't brook the resolution.
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:58 PM on March 12, 2007


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