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May 18, 2007 5:49 PM

I don't think this takedown was appropriate. Just because the story was "resolved" with flickr doesn't mean that there's nothing to talk about, or that it isn't interesting.
posted by delmoi to Etiquette/Policy at 5:49 PM (33 comments total)

Well, the post as-is is kinda light. it's just a bbc news link and a link to her flickr profile, and the rest was written by the poster itself. There's a lot more background that could have been covered, like Thomas Hawk's "zomg censorship!" post, her followup and Stewart from Flickr's forum followup as well as their flickr blog post about it. Everything was covered in the JPG mag thread as well.

Since it was resolved 2-3 days ago, and the post was light on sources, I could see passing on it, but cortex can probably explain better than me guessing why.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 6:08 PM on May 18, 2007

On the other hand, having followed the story on other sites before it WAS resolved, I found that there is nothing to talk about and it really isn't interesting.
posted by wendell at 6:09 PM on May 18, 2007 [1 favorite]

A single BBC article about days-old, boring, resolved, mild internet drama?
posted by Aloysius Bear at 6:13 PM on May 18, 2007 [1 favorite]

Basically what Matt said. It being sort of light and already over makes it kind of iffy on the face of it; that plus the breathless and sort of deceptive presentation by chuckdarwin, and right on the heels of JPG/8020 drama (in which thread, in fact, we had some references to it) just clinched it for me.
posted by cortex (staff) at 6:13 PM on May 18, 2007

Um, "Best of the web"? Was it?

This Is Really Important And We Need To Get The Word Out!!!111!!! usually makes for lousy posts.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 6:44 PM on May 18, 2007 [1 favorite]

wow - i found that post pretty interesting , i did have to google a bit right enough - i guess there's still the potential for a good post with more links and whatnot - i had no idea about the naughtyness that's been going on at flickr or jpg, that's really sad - wow, printing at 72 dpi ...
posted by sgt.serenity at 7:11 PM on May 18, 2007

Flickr? Copyright? 61295
posted by acro at 7:16 PM on May 18, 2007

In addition to being weak and overly dramatic, it had already devolved into "let's pile-on chuckdarwin" so I don't think it was going anywhere good.
posted by puke & cry at 7:19 PM on May 18, 2007

(Just saying ...) It's kind of pro flickr in 61295, this might have balanced the 'see, Flickr is better than the government.'
posted by acro at 7:20 PM on May 18, 2007

I think the topic was fine. The whole drama brought out a lot of interesting issues. The post, unfortunately, sucked and was deservedly deleted.
posted by vacapinta at 7:21 PM on May 18, 2007

yeah there is the potential for a good post there but unfortunately i can't be arsed making it.
posted by sgt.serenity at 7:28 PM on May 18, 2007

If I cared about flickr, at all, that wouldn't seem like a minor story to me. And, that apology is pretty incomplete, as it stands at the moment. But, you know, whatever..
posted by Chuckles at 7:30 PM on May 18, 2007

the path is clear for metaphoto lol
posted by sgt.serenity at 7:32 PM on May 18, 2007

Yes, I do agree that the FPP was weak, but "blog drama" is pretty difficult to collate into good one (now, I'm sure many people are happy about that :P). Still the idea that "everyone is cool" is a bit of a stretch, since Rebekka is obviously still upset about the original plagiarists.

Ah well.
posted by delmoi at 7:33 PM on May 18, 2007

Didn't there used to be some kind of photos.metafilter.com kind of thing?
posted by puke & cry at 7:45 PM on May 18, 2007

Fair enough: everyone is not necessarily truly and completely cool.
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:59 PM on May 18, 2007

I am necessarily and completely cool.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 8:52 PM on May 18, 2007

I am sufficiently cool.
posted by Aloysius Bear at 9:23 PM on May 18, 2007

But not truly cool, eh Stavros?
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 9:24 PM on May 18, 2007

*cries*
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 9:30 PM on May 18, 2007

Crying is good. In touch with your feelings despite the aching coolness.
posted by Abiezer at 9:32 PM on May 18, 2007

what everybody said.
posted by shmegegge at 10:53 PM on May 18, 2007

I'm going to weigh in here, since I'm being discussed. Yeah, it was a little light on links, and a little one sided.

I would say 'sue me'... but the truth is closer to 'delete me' and that already happened ;-)

What do y'all want me to say? I'll try harder, coach. Really.
posted by chuckdarwin at 2:16 AM on May 19, 2007

delmoi, I don't get the feeling that Rebekka is 'cool' about this at all. But, what do I know?
posted by chuckdarwin at 2:18 AM on May 19, 2007

http://www.epuk.org/Blogs/569/the-web-giveth-the-web-stealeth-away
posted by chuckdarwin at 2:33 AM on May 19, 2007

I've never seen so many helpful, well meaning men on the internet in my life, they should have a convention.
posted by sgt.serenity at 4:36 AM on May 19, 2007

“Crying is good. In touch with your feelings despite the aching coolness.”

Yeah, stav, pick up the phone—John Waters is calling.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 5:28 AM on May 19, 2007

To my mind, this whole thing has been blown out of proportion. Sometimes, life sucks. Flickr decided they were stupid, they corrected the error, and life went on. I'm sorry your friend had to go through the hassle, but does the subject really deserve an entire thread? You can always go host your photos on photobucket or on your own server.
posted by misha at 12:25 PM on May 19, 2007

Epuk sums up the whole story quite nicely here, thanks for that link chuckdarwin - it would have made the original post much better.

misha, it's a bigger issue than "some friends hassle" (and I must've missed the part where chuckdarwin declared that the icelandic photographer is his mate). Cliff notes: Girl from iceland becomes famous with her photos on flickr. Shady UK company sells her work, along work from Roy Lichtenstein and other famous peeps that they clearly have no right to. Flickr-iceland girl gets no help from lawyers and posts story to Flickr to rally community that made her famous. Flickr screws up this opportunity to become the photographers heroes here massively by a silly mistake of deleting that photo+thread, and all the web-ire is suddenly directed at them tenfold, instead of the original wrongdoers. Do'h!
posted by dabitch at 4:17 PM on May 19, 2007

I'm going to weigh in here, since beans're being discussed. I couldn't be cooler if God herself were blowing me.
posted by and hosted from Uranus at 8:55 PM on May 19, 2007

She's not really my mate, per se... more like someone I know pretty well through flickr (you'll see my testimonial on her profile page, which is why I didn't want anyone to think I was self-linking). Oh, well.
posted by chuckdarwin at 1:32 AM on May 20, 2007

well i think she should ask you out, you're a good lad.
posted by sgt.serenity at 4:09 AM on May 20, 2007

Iceland's a long swim from here, sgt.serenity.
posted by chuckdarwin at 6:26 AM on May 21, 2007