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You know, it's probably not necessary to link to a page that teaches bombmaking and glorifies theft and rev0lution d00d, in order to provide a granola recipe.
posted by textilephile to Etiquette/Policy at 5:21 AM (87 comments total) 1 user marked this as a favorite

Get a life.
posted by caddis at 5:27 AM on June 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


Who are you, The Man?
posted by Brittanie at 5:27 AM on June 20, 2007


You're calling out a decent answer to a legitimate question? Seriously?
posted by 0xFCAF at 5:32 AM on June 20, 2007


NARRRRRRRRRRRRC

Seriously, I know the phrase "worst callout ever" gets thrown around a lot, but this is seriously the worst MetaTalk post I have ever seen.
posted by Greg Nog at 5:38 AM on June 20, 2007


So, is this the reverse logic of a committed anarchist hoping that by linking back to the comment, even more people will click through to become smitten with the revolutionary agenda and join the international struggle eh? Just 2 more bowls and I'm with ya comrade!
posted by peacay at 5:38 AM on June 20, 2007 [3 favorites]


I'd just like to wish our friendly mods a good morning. I'm sure they'll appreciate my greeting when they wake up and delete this.

Sleep well, didja?
posted by chuckdarwin at 5:54 AM on June 20, 2007


Textilephile, have you tried that granola? I hear it's the bomb.

Seriously, did you take some of the brown acid, man?
posted by chillmost at 5:55 AM on June 20, 2007 [2 favorites]


Maybe he should have linked to the page where Amazon sells this dangerous thing? Though that would have been counter to the title.
posted by smackfu at 5:58 AM on June 20, 2007


What on earth is wih the recent spate of "OMG U SHULDNT LINK TO THAT" MeTa callouts lately? Did Something Awful's GBS Morality Police all buy accounts suddenly?
posted by Pope Guilty at 6:05 AM on June 20, 2007


I think this is a great call-out. It points to an excellent example of how much Metafilter hates America.
posted by Anne Coulter's Butt Plug at 6:06 AM on June 20, 2007 [2 favorites]


That's a great answer - a good recipe, but with the brilliant bonus of coming from one of America's most famous counter-culture figures. And to characterize Hoffman as simply "glorifying theft and revolution, d00d" shows astonishing ignorance of fairly recent history. *And* your title is absurdly fear-mongering. Linking to a classic historic text online is hardly going to get the FBI after us.

What on earth is wih the recent spate of "OMG U SHULDNT LINK TO THAT" MeTa callouts lately?

I dunno, but the ratio of "OMG DELETE THIS ASKME" to actual cases where deletion is justified is something like 1300:1.
posted by mediareport at 6:12 AM on June 20, 2007


I think a link to Abbie Hoffman's book is completely fine. For that matter, seeing Steal This Book as free hypertext is maybe pretty obvious now that I think about it but pleases me immensely anyway. Note: possibly a dirty hippie.

And I slept great, chuck, thanks.
posted by cortex (staff) at 6:20 AM on June 20, 2007


It's fine, the link is fine. Here's my granola recipe on a site that glorifies revolution and counterculture
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 6:23 AM on June 20, 2007 [3 favorites]


Wait, this can't end with a whimper. We need a BANG! A BANG!
posted by Brittanie at 6:24 AM on June 20, 2007


That's it jessamyn, please erase my url from your logs. Next you're going to say that you're an anarchist.
posted by OmieWise at 6:27 AM on June 20, 2007


Next you're going to say that you're an anarchist.

provocateur!!!
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 6:29 AM on June 20, 2007


I HAVE IN MY HAND A LIST OF THREE ADMINS WHO ARE KNOWN GRANOLA-EATERS
posted by Greg Nog at 6:29 AM on June 20, 2007 [8 favorites]


YIPPIE!
posted by Floydd at 6:29 AM on June 20, 2007


IF WE BAN THE GRANOLA RECIPE LINKS ONLY THE TERRORISTS WILL HAVE DELICIOUS GRANOLA RECIPES!!!1!!11!
posted by gomichild at 6:29 AM on June 20, 2007


Sorry, that should read: DIRTY YIPPIE!
posted by Floydd at 6:29 AM on June 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


I'm always trying to be provocative.

*shows a little calf*

*whispers osso bucco*
posted by OmieWise at 6:33 AM on June 20, 2007 [2 favorites]


omg granola = bombmaking = glorification of theft and revolution!!11!1 fear! panic! we're all going to hell in a handbasket!

This is the BEST way I could have possibly woken up this morning.

Do you get a stipend from Safe Homes, and Homeland Security, and Focus on the Family, etc?

"watch list"! haha please. hyperbolic much?

Still, many points for entertainment value-- this brought a smile to my face.

But seriously:
How does it feel to live in the Panopticon?
posted by exlotuseater at 6:34 AM on June 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


I wonder if the bomb-makers get indignant about seeing a granola recipe on the same page.
posted by boo_radley at 6:40 AM on June 20, 2007 [3 favorites]


I'm going to buck the trend and say thanks for the call-out. I don't particularly like granola and so would never have read the thread and found the link to Hoffman's book without it.

I don't, however, think the answer should be deleted.
posted by TedW at 6:46 AM on June 20, 2007


Yo, yo, counterculture d00dz - collaborative-stylee.
posted by Happy Dave at 6:46 AM on June 20, 2007


Anyone for tea? It's Gunpowder tea.
posted by Kirth Gerson at 6:51 AM on June 20, 2007


Agreed. Thanks for the link to Hoffman's book!
posted by vacapinta at 6:55 AM on June 20, 2007


> omg granola = bombmaking = glorification of theft and revolution!!11!1

No problem with the link here either. Any site linking Abbie and teh r3v0|u710n with fruits, nuts and flakes is spot on. But can we get some patchouli in there too? I hear the heat knows what r3v0|u710n smells like.
posted by jfuller at 7:31 AM on June 20, 2007


This thread is Pigasus approved!!! Where's my img tags?
posted by the dief at 7:35 AM on June 20, 2007


Hey, doesn't the, uh, US constitution glorify revolution?

Y'know, the foundation of your country?
posted by Happy Dave at 7:36 AM on June 20, 2007


My bad, it's the Declaration of Independence:

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.
posted by Happy Dave at 7:40 AM on June 20, 2007 [3 favorites]


"Good Morning, and Welcome to our Watch List!"

Probably my least favorite part of MeFi is the smarmy, crypto-fascist thugs who post things like this, or "say hi to the FBI for me!!!!!!", &c., whenever someone else oversteps their narrow minded definition of acceptable texts and links.

Reveling in other's possible victimization by an abusive increasingly right wing security obsessed state is sick and a little bit sad.

This kind of behavior is what empowers right- or left- wing police states in the first place, and it's jarring to see it on an otherwise relatively enlightened site like this.
posted by signal at 7:44 AM on June 20, 2007


You know, it's probably not necessary to link to a page that teaches bombmaking and glorifies theft and rev0lution d00d, in order to provide a granola recipe.

You know, it's probably not necessary to impose your opinion about what constitutes an ideologically acceptable link upon your fellow Mefites, d00d.
posted by WCityMike at 7:50 AM on June 20, 2007


No one who eats granola will ever cause a real revolution. That's left to the yogurt eaters, who are notorious for their dapper mustaches, their devil-may-care smiles, their handy way with a pistol, and their deep love of the Molotov cocktail. The best granola eaters can offer a revolution is to stay behind and tend to the wounded, who will need to be given earplugs, lest they be disturbed by the relentless CRUNCH CRUNCH CRUNCH granola eaters make, like they are chewing on gravel.
posted by Astro Zombie at 7:52 AM on June 20, 2007 [3 favorites]

BLOOD! Lead and powder as a cure for dissatisfied workers – This is law and order! … In palaces they fill their goblets with costly wines and pledge the health of the bloody banditti of law and order. Dry you tears, you poor and suffering. Take heart! Rise in your might and level the existing robber rule in the dust!
I think Johann Most was more of muesli man though
posted by Abiezer at 7:54 AM on June 20, 2007


Vivá la Granola!
posted by miss lynnster at 7:59 AM on June 20, 2007


Reveling in other's possible victimization by an abusive increasingly right wing security obsessed state is sick and a little bit sad.

Reminds me of the Kip Hawley is an idiot thread.
posted by Pope Guilty at 8:12 AM on June 20, 2007


One of my favorite parts of Steal This Book is in the instructions for building a bunk bed out of scavenged construction materials where Abbie advises that you make sure and bolt it really tight as it will undoubtedly have to withstand some serious "balling".
posted by Divine_Wino at 8:12 AM on June 20, 2007


You know, in fascist police states where the populace is encouraged to rat on one another for sedition and revolutionary thought, all those people who happily turn in anyone that breaks a rule started life out as the people going "don't say that here! someone will notice!" They get so tired of seeing other people speaking their mind freely when they don't feel like they can do so themselves that they start to resent it and want to punish the people that do.
posted by shmegegge at 8:30 AM on June 20, 2007 [8 favorites]


Wow, that book was fascinating. It's so old! Did Chicago really have a curfew for minors in 1970?
posted by jacalata at 8:41 AM on June 20, 2007


Probably my least favorite part of MeFi is the smarmy, crypto-fascist thugs who post things like this, or "say hi to the FBI for me!!!!!!", &c., whenever someone else oversteps their narrow minded definition of acceptable texts and links.

I agree. Incidentally, I love the president so much I'd like to fuck him until his heart gave out.
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 8:45 AM on June 20, 2007 [6 favorites]


Wow, that book was fascinating. It's so old!

Aw crap.
posted by CunningLinguist at 8:54 AM on June 20, 2007


Welcome to our "Watch List"? Keep your ignorant fucking paranoia inside your cranium at all times, thank you and enjoy the ride.
posted by prostyle at 9:02 AM on June 20, 2007


Does clicking the link make me a fellow traveler?
posted by joseph_elmhurst at 9:05 AM on June 20, 2007


Thousands of smelly hippies bravely gave their lives to test the recipes in that book. It would be foolish not to link to such hard-fought knowledge.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 9:07 AM on June 20, 2007


MetaFilter: You know, it's probably not necessary
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 9:12 AM on June 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


You know, it's probably not necessary to link to the thread that links to the comment that links to a page that teaches bombmaking and glorifies theft and rev0lution d00d, in order to provide a granola recipe and make a point about necessity and irony, but I'm gonna go ahead with it. The granola is that good.
posted by carsonb at 9:12 AM on June 20, 2007


I haven't clicked on the link, or even know what the hell is going on, because I don't want to become a dirty red or homosexual. But, wasn't Albert Hoffman the guy who discovered how to control hippies? Lay off, man, man.
posted by Elmore at 9:13 AM on June 20, 2007


Speaking of watch lists, what's the general consensus on season three of Little Britain? I'm halfway through season two right now, and I'm finding it less consistently funny than the first, which was brilliant. The sketches seem less inspired, more repetitive, and just gratuitously gross. Do things pick up again in the third season, or should I delete it from my Netflix queue?
posted by Atom Eyes at 9:21 AM on June 20, 2007


Atom, are you on acid right now? Of course you should delete it.
posted by Elmore at 9:25 AM on June 20, 2007


Those questions you raised about libraries, information, and people who know things haven't lost their crunch either, Jessamyn, for all that you cooked them up in a cafeteria now only a surprisingly distant memory.
posted by jamjam at 9:26 AM on June 20, 2007


So who else has stolen a copy of Steal This Book only to have it stolen from them? Glad to see it online, where I can steal it without taking it from anybody!
posted by sudama at 9:51 AM on June 20, 2007


You know who else liked granola
posted by hortense at 10:10 AM on June 20, 2007


Great Gran Ola?
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 10:15 AM on June 20, 2007


Granola is counter-revolutionary. Muesli is where the action is.
posted by meehawl at 10:18 AM on June 20, 2007


This is probably the worst cereal-related callout in the history of cereal-related callouts.
posted by modernnomad at 10:20 AM on June 20, 2007


...Except for the great Grape Nuts Purge of 03
posted by Jofus at 10:27 AM on June 20, 2007


'Granola' has been on my list of 'things from America that I've heard of and sort of know what they are from the context, but can't be arsed to look up' for years. So if this thread has done any good, it's educated me. (I was hoping for something more exciting than 'cooked muesli', though.)
posted by jack_mo at 10:29 AM on June 20, 2007


This is not nearly the worst callout I've ever seen. There are some people who post to MetaTalk without paying even the slightest bit of attention to explaining to the readers what the point of the post is. This callout is dumb, but at least you don't have to do any extra work to figure out that it is dumb.
posted by Kwine at 10:55 AM on June 20, 2007


No, it's not "necessary" to link to such a page, in the strictest sense of the word, but thanks for linking to it, because now I have some cool granola recipes and a link to "Steal this Book."
Doubly awesome!
posted by Snyder at 10:56 AM on June 20, 2007


I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who is annoyed by Abbie Hoffman's oft-noted use of hacker l33tsp33k.
posted by designbot at 11:04 AM on June 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


There are lame callouts, and there are super-lame callouts, and then there are callouts that are so unspeakably lame that they make a gal want to put her head on her desk and weep. This is one of those.

Steal This Book is a powerful, joyful, and important document in the history of 20th century dissent, counterculture, and American political life. It, like the Yippie movement itself, is about speaking truth to power through tricksterism and humor.

Anyone who feels the need to police anti-government sentiment and to make sure that no one even discusses means of militant resistance in public would do well to go home and read some God damned Ben Franklin. I've also got to say that, given the crappy, unjust misery of a war we're stuck in, I think we need Abbie Hoffman's wisdom a lot right now. The fact that someone put the text online for everyone to use would make the man very proud, I think.

(And on a personal note: Finding and buying my copy at age 16, in the days before Alibris, Amazon, and the like, was one of the watershed moments in my development is a bibliophile. I searched for about 18 months for it, prowling through the used bookstores of four states, and when I finally found a box of them, under a table in a shop in Center City, Philadelphia, I bought enough for all my Yippie-curious friends. (The book was, for a time, way out-of-print.) The memory of all of us pretentious teenaged dorks with our bleached-out little black books, giggling over the possibility of trying to demand our free buffalos is almost, but not quite, enough to drive away the sadness that this callout produces in me.

I've gotten rid of most of my books in preparation for a move overseas, but I still have that one. I hope that I always will.)
posted by palmcorder_yajna at 11:14 AM on June 20, 2007 [7 favorites]


Thanks, textilephile! I never would have seen these recipes if not for you. I loves me some granola. /sincerity
posted by found dog one eye at 11:20 AM on June 20, 2007


You can get a free l6mm movie about parakeets called "More Fun with Parakeets," by writing to: R.T. French Co., 9068 Mustard St., Rochester, New York 14609. This great film won an Academy Award for best picture of 1793.

Fucking hippies.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 11:23 AM on June 20, 2007


The least you can do, textilephile, if you really thought it was wrong to link to that archaic counterculture book, is defend yourself in the face of total opposition.

Instead, I'm beginning to think that this metatalk post was really a cry for help. Come on, textilephile. You can confide in us. What's really the matter?
posted by Dave Faris at 11:31 AM on June 20, 2007


The problem is obviously self-loathing, as textilephile has apparently just discovered that he/she doesn't actually love text all that much.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 11:36 AM on June 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


Damn you It's Raining Florence Henderson, give me back my brain.
posted by Floydd at 11:47 AM on June 20, 2007


I found Little Britain remarkably unfunny, and I normally eat that stuff up. Maybe I was uneasy about being on a watch list (Rolex? No, Omega. Fap fap fap.)
posted by maxwelton at 11:52 AM on June 20, 2007


At first, I thought the link was going here but was pleasantly surprised to find Abby Hoffman at the other end.
posted by Sailormom at 12:15 PM on June 20, 2007


Man, I remember when bomb recipes (grabbed by Fetch off of some .edu repository) were what the internet was FOR, man.

And no one ever bothered my dad about the Anarchists' Cookbook that I downloaded and printed out at home, though he always feared someone would.
posted by klangklangston at 12:22 PM on June 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


Hey, everyone lay off textilephile, I'm sure he's just concerned that links like this will turn us all into cereal-killers.
posted by quin at 12:30 PM on June 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


And they'll put us behind granola bars!
posted by brain_drain at 12:54 PM on June 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


Steal This Book is no longer enough to get you on any sort of watch list---if it ever was. Proof? I'm at a service academy (you know, where they teach people who hope to work for The Man for their whole careers) and it's in the recreational reading collection at our library.

signal and shmegegge are right: attitudes like this are the kind a successful police state tries to cultivate. I hate the term "un-American" but ... this is it.
posted by wtdoor at 1:23 PM on June 20, 2007


Seems kinda like saying listening to Lenny Bruce is gonna get you arrested, really.
posted by miss lynnster at 1:40 PM on June 20, 2007


If there isn't already a watch list for enjoying Little Britain, there damn well ought to be one. God, that show is awful.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 1:46 PM on June 20, 2007


If there isn't already a watch list for enjoying Little Britain

The Only Gay In The Village - 1, 2, 3, 4.
posted by ericb at 3:39 PM on June 20, 2007


YIPPIE!
posted by Floydd at 7:29 AM on June 20 [+] [!]


Youppi!
posted by evilcolonel at 3:47 PM on June 20, 2007


I tried speaking truth to power once, and burned the living shit out of my tongue.

Never again, I tell you.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:45 PM on June 20, 2007


As Abbie Hoffman proclaims, 'Cooking is a vastly overrated skill.

As Cool Papa Bell proclaims, Abbie Hoffman is a vastly overrated dork.

As Cool Papa Bell proclaims, not knowing how to cook is like not knowing how to fuck.*

cool papa bell has shamelessly stolen this line from Robert Rodriguez
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 6:14 PM on June 20, 2007


I'm glad I don't really need to add anything to this thread. Maybe y'all ain't quite as bad off as I sometimes believe.
posted by davy at 7:39 PM on June 20, 2007


Wow, my AskMe thread hit the grey! My life is now complete.
posted by Addlepated at 9:02 PM on June 20, 2007




What would happen if you combined the granola and LACE recipes? Breakfast that produces an involuntary pelvic action in cops that resembles fucking?
posted by lemuria at 9:53 PM on June 20, 2007


posted by Anne Coulter's Butt Plug

This is probably the first case I've seen of a misspelled joke sockpuppet.

Her name is Ann, not Anne.
posted by Penks at 10:26 AM on June 21, 2007


I thought it was Pudenda Shenanigans
posted by caddis at 10:47 AM on June 21, 2007


This reminds me of the debacle when CIA's weapon intelligence division followed an answer link on askme about recipes for yellow layer cake.
posted by BrotherCaine at 3:44 AM on June 24, 2007


Pudenda Shenanigans would be a good Bond heroine name.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 2:21 AM on June 25, 2007 [2 favorites]


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