MeFi's Procyberathleticism! October 11, 2007 11:57 AM Subscribe
MeFi's own TF2/gaming server?
Is there enough interest in having our own server? Costs aren't extreme, and it might be fun to blow each other up and maybe have a small tournament with awesome prizes. At the very least, some of us could just arrange times to play without pubber-related aggravation.
What say you? I'll spring for the server. Looks like the various services out there rent out their equipment, so there'd be no need to pay for a box if I'm not mistaken.
Is there enough interest in having our own server? Costs aren't extreme, and it might be fun to blow each other up and maybe have a small tournament with awesome prizes. At the very least, some of us could just arrange times to play without pubber-related aggravation.
What say you? I'll spring for the server. Looks like the various services out there rent out their equipment, so there'd be no need to pay for a box if I'm not mistaken.
This post was deleted for the following reason: Poster's Request -- Brandon Blatcher
without pubber-related aggravation
as opposed to snark and inside jokes?
But seriously, we can has our own games server? I'm intrigued tell me more...Does it only work with specific games? Platforms?
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 12:21 PM on October 11, 2007
as opposed to snark and inside jokes?
But seriously, we can has our own games server? I'm intrigued tell me more...Does it only work with specific games? Platforms?
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 12:21 PM on October 11, 2007
I'd love this. Same questions as Brandon: what are the implications as far as what can be run and when? Weekly schedule? Etc.
posted by cortex (staff) at 12:23 PM on October 11, 2007
posted by cortex (staff) at 12:23 PM on October 11, 2007
Someday ... someday I'll upgrade to the point that I'll be able to run TF2 ...
*sniff*
posted by The Great Big Mulp at 12:24 PM on October 11, 2007
*sniff*
posted by The Great Big Mulp at 12:24 PM on October 11, 2007
Same questions as Brandon:
You stole my kill, get your own, n00b!
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 12:32 PM on October 11, 2007
You stole my kill, get your own, n00b!
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 12:32 PM on October 11, 2007
Most "Source" servers (TF2, CS:Source, HL2, etc), come in Linux and Windows variates, and since the Steam/Half-Life/Source games are Windows only, that's the only client platform that would be supported.
I think it would be fairly trivial to run a CS:Source and HL2 server on top of a TF2 server, but, obviously, I think, not at the same time - depending on the server and the bandwidth.
posted by kbanas at 12:40 PM on October 11, 2007
I think it would be fairly trivial to run a CS:Source and HL2 server on top of a TF2 server, but, obviously, I think, not at the same time - depending on the server and the bandwidth.
posted by kbanas at 12:40 PM on October 11, 2007
I want to say yes, but after some research I've found that my university's LAN actually uses carrier pigeons to transmit data. Sick ones. With weights attached to their legs.
So any online gaming I do outside of URI's Lagfest '07-'08 will have to wait until winter and summer break.
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 12:46 PM on October 11, 2007
So any online gaming I do outside of URI's Lagfest '07-'08 will have to wait until winter and summer break.
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 12:46 PM on October 11, 2007
You're going to make me buy the Orange Box now aren't you? Dammit.
posted by Skorgu at 12:53 PM on October 11, 2007
posted by Skorgu at 12:53 PM on October 11, 2007
I'd play on this, if it existed. I haven't played a FPS since the pre-Source Counter Strike but I've been waiting a long time for TF2. A bit of googling makes me think I should be able to get it working on my iMac.
I stopped playing on-line games because I was tired of public servers. My best gaming experiences were when I played on a server with a regular gang of grown-ups.
posted by bondcliff at 12:59 PM on October 11, 2007
I stopped playing on-line games because I was tired of public servers. My best gaming experiences were when I played on a server with a regular gang of grown-ups.
posted by bondcliff at 12:59 PM on October 11, 2007
Please help out an old man: what is "TF2"?
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 1:11 PM on October 11, 2007
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 1:11 PM on October 11, 2007
See also: there's more than fifty folks in the Mefi group so far, which is inspiring.
posted by cortex (staff) at 1:25 PM on October 11, 2007
posted by cortex (staff) at 1:25 PM on October 11, 2007
Well, I just bought the damn game, so I guess I can be target practice for ya'll.
posted by absalom at 1:30 PM on October 11, 2007
posted by absalom at 1:30 PM on October 11, 2007
Damn, CitrusFreak12, I thought mine was the only college using RFC-1149 for their internet service.
posted by Pope Guilty at 1:49 PM on October 11, 2007
posted by Pope Guilty at 1:49 PM on October 11, 2007
I am currently completely unable to play TF2 or most other FPS games, as all of my hardware is far too old.
But, if there was even the slightest chance that I could kill some of you... albeit virtually, I would upgrade in a heartbeat.
Nothing personal, I just wonder what the your screams would sound like.
posted by quin at 2:34 PM on October 11, 2007
But, if there was even the slightest chance that I could kill some of you... albeit virtually, I would upgrade in a heartbeat.
Nothing personal, I just wonder what the your screams would sound like.
posted by quin at 2:34 PM on October 11, 2007
My college was one of the first to start using that service, Pope Guilty, unfortunately they haven't updated since.
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 2:36 PM on October 11, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 2:36 PM on October 11, 2007 [1 favorite]
Looking at the first thing that I Googled (actually one of the paid listings), gameservers.com offers a public TF2 server with up to 24 players for 35.95 a month. That's more than I expected it would be, but still within a range of something that we could reasonably expect to ask for voluntary donations from prospective users and get at least a couple of months and see how it goes.
I don't think my hosting service (1&1) offers game servers as an add-on, if they did I'd expect it to be cheaper for someone adding-on to other hosting than something like gameservers.com. But I could be wrong. I'm using the Linux hosting, not Windows hosting, at 1&1, anyway. I was also using GoDaddy for a while, but I canceled my account with them.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 2:38 PM on October 11, 2007
I don't think my hosting service (1&1) offers game servers as an add-on, if they did I'd expect it to be cheaper for someone adding-on to other hosting than something like gameservers.com. But I could be wrong. I'm using the Linux hosting, not Windows hosting, at 1&1, anyway. I was also using GoDaddy for a while, but I canceled my account with them.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 2:38 PM on October 11, 2007
I'd think having non-asshat friends in would be fine, and good for getting a game together as well.
Probably fine to plaintext the IP and password here for now; potential for griefing by strangers is pretty low in the short term, and in the long run we can probably get a bit better organized about server administration and player communications—maybe kick off an official listserv or something.
For what it's worth, I don't mind an email about this stuff now and then, and I'd hope that most folks expressing interest here who list an email in their profiles wouldn't mind a judicious "hey, here's the plan" sort of thing once or twice as this is getting its feet under it.
posted by cortex (staff) at 2:43 PM on October 11, 2007
Probably fine to plaintext the IP and password here for now; potential for griefing by strangers is pretty low in the short term, and in the long run we can probably get a bit better organized about server administration and player communications—maybe kick off an official listserv or something.
For what it's worth, I don't mind an email about this stuff now and then, and I'd hope that most folks expressing interest here who list an email in their profiles wouldn't mind a judicious "hey, here's the plan" sort of thing once or twice as this is getting its feet under it.
posted by cortex (staff) at 2:43 PM on October 11, 2007
EB, it looks like herrdoktor has it covered, at least for the initial bit here.
posted by cortex (staff) at 2:44 PM on October 11, 2007
posted by cortex (staff) at 2:44 PM on October 11, 2007
Oops. Missed that as I was writing my comment.
Cool! You're the man, herrdokter!
Why don't we put the login/password on the MeFi Wiki? Or, I guess this is really probably low-profile enough.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 2:49 PM on October 11, 2007
Cool! You're the man, herrdokter!
Why don't we put the login/password on the MeFi Wiki? Or, I guess this is really probably low-profile enough.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 2:49 PM on October 11, 2007
Well, Steam has a pretty good "group" structure. The first step, as it seems to me, is that we'd want to create a MeFi group and a thread where we could leave our Steam usernames.
As for the server info, well, look, I don't want to keep coming back here to check for how it's going down, so someone, for the love of God, send me the username and password.
My e-mail address is in my profile. :)
posted by kbanas at 2:51 PM on October 11, 2007
As for the server info, well, look, I don't want to keep coming back here to check for how it's going down, so someone, for the love of God, send me the username and password.
My e-mail address is in my profile. :)
posted by kbanas at 2:51 PM on October 11, 2007
herrdoktor writes "Maybe people could send some mail and get the password in reply? I dunno. Lemme know."
Just put the plain text in the email field of your profile (along with your email of course). Only members can see it, it's easily changed and you control it.
posted by Mitheral at 2:52 PM on October 11, 2007 [3 favorites]
Just put the plain text in the email field of your profile (along with your email of course). Only members can see it, it's easily changed and you control it.
posted by Mitheral at 2:52 PM on October 11, 2007 [3 favorites]
A Metafilter Steam Group exists already, happily enough.
posted by cortex (staff) at 2:54 PM on October 11, 2007
posted by cortex (staff) at 2:54 PM on October 11, 2007
Where is this server physically? That seems to make a difference for ping times. I end up mostly playing on seattle-area boxes for that reason.
posted by mrnutty at 3:04 PM on October 11, 2007
posted by mrnutty at 3:04 PM on October 11, 2007
I suspect, also, that having it be a public server would be better for getting satisfying games going. There's nothing more depressing than trying to play on a box with 3 people on it.
posted by mrnutty at 3:09 PM on October 11, 2007
posted by mrnutty at 3:09 PM on October 11, 2007
Bummer, this sounds like a lot of fun.
I don't suppose there is a way to play TF2 on a non-Intel Mac that anyone knows of...?
posted by rollbiz at 4:12 PM on October 11, 2007
I don't suppose there is a way to play TF2 on a non-Intel Mac that anyone knows of...?
posted by rollbiz at 4:12 PM on October 11, 2007
I didn't think you could play TF2 on a Mac at all. Otherwise, I'd be in!
posted by sourwookie at 4:18 PM on October 11, 2007
posted by sourwookie at 4:18 PM on October 11, 2007
Short of Bootcamp, that is. Does the most recent iMac have the muscle? Anyone know?
posted by sourwookie at 4:18 PM on October 11, 2007
posted by sourwookie at 4:18 PM on October 11, 2007
non-Intel Mac
Are you up for Halo or Halo Demo?
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 4:59 PM on October 11, 2007
Are you up for Halo or Halo Demo?
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 4:59 PM on October 11, 2007
Holy shit this is great! Thanks, herrdoktor! As soon as I can get my shit together here (just woke up), I'll hit the server, although my ping will probably suck from here in Korea.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:48 PM on October 11, 2007
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:48 PM on October 11, 2007
Should be fine, sourwookie, under Bootcamp. If you have a really big screen, you probably won't be able to play at native resolution... you'll have to drop back a little. The 24" iMacs in particular have underpowered video hardware for the number of pixels they need to push at full res.
But modern LCD scaling is very good, so you should be happy at something lower....experiment a litle to see what works well for you.
If you enable the Developer Console under Options/Keyboard tab/Advanced button, the tilde (~) key will open a command prompt. If you type in:
that will give you your current frame rate, which will help with adjusting video settings.
posted by Malor at 6:11 PM on October 11, 2007
But modern LCD scaling is very good, so you should be happy at something lower....experiment a litle to see what works well for you.
If you enable the Developer Console under Options/Keyboard tab/Advanced button, the tilde (~) key will open a command prompt. If you type in:
cl_showfps 1that will give you your current frame rate, which will help with adjusting video settings.
posted by Malor at 6:11 PM on October 11, 2007
Tried the server with Plutor -- I hope the 250 ping for me is playable.
Come on in, folks! Let's blow each other up!
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 6:19 PM on October 11, 2007
Come on in, folks! Let's blow each other up!
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 6:19 PM on October 11, 2007
I'm in. Downloading now.
Am I correct in assuming that the password spoken of is not overly obvious but a clever chap like me should be able to figure it out?
posted by Cyrano at 6:29 PM on October 11, 2007
Am I correct in assuming that the password spoken of is not overly obvious but a clever chap like me should be able to figure it out?
posted by Cyrano at 6:29 PM on October 11, 2007
We need to schedule TF2 meetups.
posted by TheOnlyCoolTim at 6:45 PM on October 11, 2007
posted by TheOnlyCoolTim at 6:45 PM on October 11, 2007
Am I correct in assuming that the password spoken of is not overly obvious but a clever chap like me should be able to figure it out?
Look at herrdoktor's profile page here on MeFi -- it's in his email field (visible only to logged-in users).
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 6:58 PM on October 11, 2007
Look at herrdoktor's profile page here on MeFi -- it's in his email field (visible only to logged-in users).
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 6:58 PM on October 11, 2007
Ahhh. I'm not that clever it seems. Hopefully I'm a better sniper.
posted by Cyrano at 7:22 PM on October 11, 2007
posted by Cyrano at 7:22 PM on October 11, 2007
I wouldn't mind hearing about this stuff, in the sense of cortex's listserv notion. I'm currently stuck on a Radeon 9200, so it might be a little out of my league..
posted by Chuckles at 8:17 PM on October 11, 2007
posted by Chuckles at 8:17 PM on October 11, 2007
Damn I really wish I could get in on this.
*sulks back to Wii to play Resident Evil 4*
posted by slogger at 8:39 PM on October 11, 2007
*sulks back to Wii to play Resident Evil 4*
posted by slogger at 8:39 PM on October 11, 2007
Very cool! Been playing the beta and enjoying it a lot, even more than my normal game of DoD:Source. Thanks so much to herrdoktor for setting this all up, you're a star!
posted by gemmy at 8:45 PM on October 11, 2007
posted by gemmy at 8:45 PM on October 11, 2007
Just played a few rounds on herrdoktor's server (with sadly, only 4 of us, though), and even averaging 225 ping (for me), it was totally playable and lots o' fun.
I'd really love to get some big matches going with our fellow MeFites.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 9:48 PM on October 11, 2007
I'd really love to get some big matches going with our fellow MeFites.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 9:48 PM on October 11, 2007
Great game guys, thanks for the server herrdoktor!
If you had stayed on 0.4 hours longer, you could have helped me achieve a solid 24 hours of playing time in the past two days.
I'm not sure how I feel about that.
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 9:49 PM on October 11, 2007
If you had stayed on 0.4 hours longer, you could have helped me achieve a solid 24 hours of playing time in the past two days.
I'm not sure how I feel about that.
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 9:49 PM on October 11, 2007
Oh, geez. I loved fragging the shit outta people in Quake 2. I may have to spring for this.
*sigh* So many games, so little time.
posted by deborah at 11:39 PM on October 11, 2007
*sigh* So many games, so little time.
posted by deborah at 11:39 PM on October 11, 2007
Is it just me, or has anyone else had trouble reading from the browser after a session of Portal? Maybe it was just me and my painkillers.
But earlier I had stopped playing at Chamber 18 while listening to the commentary at the area of the successively higher columns, where (at least in my case) I was falling up and down through the air with a reorientation just after passing through each portal. When you do a lot of that in Portal, your sense of the world not being all rotate-y is badly damaged.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 11:49 PM on October 11, 2007
But earlier I had stopped playing at Chamber 18 while listening to the commentary at the area of the successively higher columns, where (at least in my case) I was falling up and down through the air with a reorientation just after passing through each portal. When you do a lot of that in Portal, your sense of the world not being all rotate-y is badly damaged.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 11:49 PM on October 11, 2007
Why are you all still posting while there's Science to do?
As always, I ask my fellow console punks to rally 'round the wiki for your pocket full of shells. We've had some great H3 games so far and I'm building a photo album on my Flickr page.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 4:41 AM on October 12, 2007
As always, I ask my fellow console punks to rally 'round the wiki for your pocket full of shells. We've had some great H3 games so far and I'm building a photo album on my Flickr page.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 4:41 AM on October 12, 2007
Yeah, I think scheduled times would be good. I hoped on last night and only saw about 2 or 3 other people.
posted by absalom at 5:23 AM on October 12, 2007
posted by absalom at 5:23 AM on October 12, 2007
Awesome, herrdoktor. I'm going to start downloading it at lunch and plan to check it out this evening (~6pm CDT).
posted by erikgrande at 8:18 AM on October 12, 2007
posted by erikgrande at 8:18 AM on October 12, 2007
This is a triumph.
I'd love to set a date/time/place for some rounds.
posted by cowbellemoo at 8:53 AM on October 12, 2007
I'd love to set a date/time/place for some rounds.
posted by cowbellemoo at 8:53 AM on October 12, 2007
cowbellemoo: "This is a triumph."
I see what you did there.
posted by Plutor at 10:53 AM on October 12, 2007
I see what you did there.
posted by Plutor at 10:53 AM on October 12, 2007
I see what you did there.
I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS.
I'm being so sincere right now.
Eep, 2pm Sat. is the same day as the knitting convention!
Anyone do the advanced levels yet? Build a mobile cube fort for the cage turret level? 30 mins of jamming the control key!
posted by cowbellemoo at 11:16 AM on October 12, 2007
I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS.
I'm being so sincere right now.
Eep, 2pm Sat. is the same day as the knitting convention!
Anyone do the advanced levels yet? Build a mobile cube fort for the cage turret level? 30 mins of jamming the control key!
posted by cowbellemoo at 11:16 AM on October 12, 2007
Ooh, and I'm sure this will be appreciated: Companion Cube Wallpaper.
posted by cowbellemoo at 11:23 AM on October 12, 2007
posted by cowbellemoo at 11:23 AM on October 12, 2007
*sheds a tear for poor, sacrificed Companion Cube*
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 12:17 PM on October 12, 2007
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 12:17 PM on October 12, 2007
Thanks for the games everyone! I'd be in for 2pm EST tomorrow.
And I'm still alive.
posted by wzcx at 1:04 PM on October 12, 2007
And I'm still alive.
posted by wzcx at 1:04 PM on October 12, 2007
I'm in for tomorrow.
Thanks herrdoktor, for hooking us up w/the server. It can't have been free, so can I pitch in a couple bucks?
posted by cog_nate at 3:50 PM on October 12, 2007
Thanks herrdoktor, for hooking us up w/the server. It can't have been free, so can I pitch in a couple bucks?
posted by cog_nate at 3:50 PM on October 12, 2007
PS I'll still be alive when you are dying.
PPS Also, I'll still be alive after you are dead.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 3:51 PM on October 12, 2007 [4 favorites]
PPS Also, I'll still be alive after you are dead.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 3:51 PM on October 12, 2007 [4 favorites]
Hopefully someone with admin (i.e. Plutor) on the MeFi steam group can set up an event so it will throw a reminder out to everyone with steam turned on.
posted by public at 3:59 PM on October 12, 2007
posted by public at 3:59 PM on October 12, 2007
2pm! I'll do my best to be there, and we'll see what the campus connection gods have in store for me.
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 5:47 PM on October 12, 2007
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 5:47 PM on October 12, 2007
I look forward to dying with great honor at 2 PM.
Because I suck.
posted by disclaimer at 6:14 PM on October 12, 2007
Because I suck.
posted by disclaimer at 6:14 PM on October 12, 2007
I've made an announcement and an event. Hell yes, we are prepared.
posted by cortex (staff) at 6:47 PM on October 12, 2007
posted by cortex (staff) at 6:47 PM on October 12, 2007
What year is 2 PM in Korea?
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 2:53 AM on October 13, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 2:53 AM on October 13, 2007 [1 favorite]
It's OK, I looked it up, and the answer is: cabbage!
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 2:54 AM on October 13, 2007
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 2:54 AM on October 13, 2007
Oh, man, this is cool. I mostly got the Orange Box for Portal and single player HL, but TF2 looks like fun, from the 1:09 I can stay alive against 13 year olds. My skillz are bad and I should feel bad. Also, if you are on the fence about getting the Orange Box, it is almost worth getting it for Portal alone. One of the best games I have ever played.
posted by Rock Steady at 8:35 AM on October 13, 2007
posted by Rock Steady at 8:35 AM on October 13, 2007
This is wonderful - looking forward to taking part!
posted by adrianhon at 8:49 AM on October 13, 2007
posted by adrianhon at 8:49 AM on October 13, 2007
Grr, I've been in and out a bit, but my box has started to hang delightfully after about ten minutes of play. Joy.
posted by Skorgu at 10:06 AM on October 13, 2007
posted by Skorgu at 10:06 AM on October 13, 2007
Plwase help the slow. I don't know how to find the server. Where in the menu screen for the game can you find servers by IP addresses? I sold two xbox360 games for the Orange Box. And I'm one of the first members. Halp!
posted by Student of Man at 11:32 AM on October 13, 2007
posted by Student of Man at 11:32 AM on October 13, 2007
You need to just enter the server IP, instead. It's listed in the MeFi Steam group.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 11:34 AM on October 13, 2007
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 11:34 AM on October 13, 2007
Had some kinda crash after about 40 mins. Had fun though. Now to get to my Saturday to do list.
Frag ya later!
posted by Big_B at 11:41 AM on October 13, 2007
Frag ya later!
posted by Big_B at 11:41 AM on October 13, 2007
I couldn't find the MeFi steam group, but if you go to favorites you can paste it in the box and it will add it.
posted by Big_B at 11:42 AM on October 13, 2007
posted by Big_B at 11:42 AM on October 13, 2007
Well, I better tell my wife and son they won't be seeing much of me. That was a lot of fun. I'll be playing more.
FWIW, the game runs fine under Bootcamp.
posted by bondcliff at 1:41 PM on October 13, 2007
FWIW, the game runs fine under Bootcamp.
posted by bondcliff at 1:41 PM on October 13, 2007
That was good fun, even though I made a good target for some of you. Thanks again herrdoktor.
posted by itchylick at 3:51 PM on October 13, 2007
posted by itchylick at 3:51 PM on October 13, 2007
That was fun, guys! Quality of play was way above average for most servers, which is nice. I'm guessing I'll be seeing more of ya...
posted by gemmy at 4:05 PM on October 13, 2007
posted by gemmy at 4:05 PM on October 13, 2007
Had a good time. nice to play online with all fun loving adults for a change. we must do this again!
posted by absalom at 4:39 PM on October 13, 2007
posted by absalom at 4:39 PM on October 13, 2007
G, as they say, g.
posted by L. Fitzgerald Sjoberg at 4:42 PM on October 13, 2007
posted by L. Fitzgerald Sjoberg at 4:42 PM on October 13, 2007
That was awesome. I figured that was you playing, Lore.
Gg indeed.
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 5:53 PM on October 13, 2007
Gg indeed.
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 5:53 PM on October 13, 2007
That was fun... and there wasn't even any trash talking, which is strange. I expected point-by-point refutations of my rockets.
posted by BlackLeotardFront at 6:25 PM on October 13, 2007 [2 favorites]
posted by BlackLeotardFront at 6:25 PM on October 13, 2007 [2 favorites]
Oh. I play as >>, so if you see me say hellooo.
posted by BlackLeotardFront at 6:26 PM on October 13, 2007
posted by BlackLeotardFront at 6:26 PM on October 13, 2007
and there wasn't even any trash talking
Actually, there was; I just deleted it.
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:25 PM on October 13, 2007
Actually, there was; I just deleted it.
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:25 PM on October 13, 2007
“Actually, there was; I just deleted it.”
How's that work? I thought the talking happened real-time?
Anyway, I had a lot of fun, too, which I would hope would be the case given that I played for like six hours straight!
But I did get frustrated a number of times and wasn't having fun at all. I don't know the maps very well and I could have used some guidance from other people on my team about what I should be doing. I was most effective as a heavy, but most of the time there wasn't a medic; or, if there was a medic, he wasn't working with me. (Or anyone—I saw some medics going solo and attacking people far more than I think I should have. But what do I know?)
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 7:36 PM on October 13, 2007
How's that work? I thought the talking happened real-time?
Anyway, I had a lot of fun, too, which I would hope would be the case given that I played for like six hours straight!
But I did get frustrated a number of times and wasn't having fun at all. I don't know the maps very well and I could have used some guidance from other people on my team about what I should be doing. I was most effective as a heavy, but most of the time there wasn't a medic; or, if there was a medic, he wasn't working with me. (Or anyone—I saw some medics going solo and attacking people far more than I think I should have. But what do I know?)
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 7:36 PM on October 13, 2007
I was joking.
I have to say, carry-over familiarity from TFC years ago made the re-learning process a lot less frustrating, but one of the most pleasant parts of the whole thing was talking my way through learning how to run an Engineer properly. Voice chat really kicked ass, there; and the bit of planning and team discussion/guidance that was going on sometimes was just faboo.
Folks should (a) get headsets, and (b) really proactively get their teamplay on in general. It really makes the experience tick. Though even when there wasn't much of any chatter, I still felt like there was a lot more going on team-wise, cohesion-wise, than on some random public server.
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:43 PM on October 13, 2007
I have to say, carry-over familiarity from TFC years ago made the re-learning process a lot less frustrating, but one of the most pleasant parts of the whole thing was talking my way through learning how to run an Engineer properly. Voice chat really kicked ass, there; and the bit of planning and team discussion/guidance that was going on sometimes was just faboo.
Folks should (a) get headsets, and (b) really proactively get their teamplay on in general. It really makes the experience tick. Though even when there wasn't much of any chatter, I still felt like there was a lot more going on team-wise, cohesion-wise, than on some random public server.
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:43 PM on October 13, 2007
This thread has a ton of useful game tips. Voice is vital to in game communications. EB and others, if you are new, ask for advice on what to do. A lot of people are willing to help but shy away from giving orders. Familiarity with the maps is pretty important to learn key choke positions and strategies. When you're dead you should watch over the shoulder of someone better than you and try to pick up what they're doing.
posted by hindmost at 8:53 PM on October 13, 2007
posted by hindmost at 8:53 PM on October 13, 2007
I definitely enjoy being given some directions or "helpful" tips, and I tend to ask for them if people aren't giving them. Feel free to say if we need a certain class or if I'm an engineer tell me if you need a turret at a certain location. Most of the time as engineer I'm not in it for the score (and I'm sure that showed most times).
Hope to do this again soon!
Also who can recommend me a good headset?
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 9:03 PM on October 13, 2007
Hope to do this again soon!
Also who can recommend me a good headset?
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 9:03 PM on October 13, 2007
Oh and there are certain maps that practically demand particular classes so even if you have a favorite, you should get to competent with a few. Some maps like gravepit are long standoffs and require a lot of heavy weaponry like demos , soldiers and heavy/medic pairs. With maps like well and granary (5 cap points) getting the center control point is of key importance so people always go scout/pyro at the beginning to get it and then switch to more durable classes.
If you are a medic or have a medic healing you, you have to communicate. Wasting an uber early or having your medic whacked when you are not paying attention are terrible things. Either get a headset or learn to use the preset audio alerts. I die a little inside every time someone pops an uber on me when I'm low on ammo or there's nothing to kill.
posted by hindmost at 9:21 PM on October 13, 2007
If you are a medic or have a medic healing you, you have to communicate. Wasting an uber early or having your medic whacked when you are not paying attention are terrible things. Either get a headset or learn to use the preset audio alerts. I die a little inside every time someone pops an uber on me when I'm low on ammo or there's nothing to kill.
posted by hindmost at 9:21 PM on October 13, 2007
Also who can recommend me a good headset?
Please, I'd appreciate advice on this topic too.
posted by wzcx at 9:29 PM on October 13, 2007
I've found -- and read -- that playing Medic is good for learning maps. Pick someone and follow them around healing. This works best, for assorted reasons, on the Heavy, Soldier, and Pyro. Engineers and Snipers often go someplace and stay there, Scouts are too fast, Spies aren't going to want you following them around. Not sure how well it works with a Demo, but I imagine they appreciate it as much as anyone else.
posted by L. Fitzgerald Sjoberg at 10:22 PM on October 13, 2007
posted by L. Fitzgerald Sjoberg at 10:22 PM on October 13, 2007
I wasn't there long (I was spruce), but I had a good time. I ended up playing a medic most of the time, and my heavy buddy stayed alive a long time until one well-placed sniper bullet took him down.
I'd really like to play one of these games with actual team coordination involved, rather than random flailing. Seems like this group has a good shot at that.
posted by picea at 7:25 AM on October 14, 2007
I'd really like to play one of these games with actual team coordination involved, rather than random flailing. Seems like this group has a good shot at that.
posted by picea at 7:25 AM on October 14, 2007
I wasn't able to get my headset working. Not sure if it's a bad mic or a bootcamp thing. I'll keep at it.
I played as an engineer for about a minute until I gave up because it wasn't a good time to learn. Someone yelled at me to put a sentry by the briefcase and I broke down and cried.
I'd like to take the time to learn. Seems an engineer is one of the more vital classes.
And I agree with Cortex, I'm glad a played many months of TF Classic back in the Half Life days.
Is it me or is the sniper a lot harder to play this time around? I couldn't get any shots in.
posted by bondcliff at 8:58 AM on October 14, 2007
I played as an engineer for about a minute until I gave up because it wasn't a good time to learn. Someone yelled at me to put a sentry by the briefcase and I broke down and cried.
I'd like to take the time to learn. Seems an engineer is one of the more vital classes.
And I agree with Cortex, I'm glad a played many months of TF Classic back in the Half Life days.
Is it me or is the sniper a lot harder to play this time around? I couldn't get any shots in.
posted by bondcliff at 8:58 AM on October 14, 2007
Yeah, I have to say to those showing frustration, be patient. While I've played many FPSes in my day, I've never really been great at any of them. The learning curve, for me at least, is very, very forgiving. I've logged a total of less than ten hours playing, but I've already noticed my scores and my play improving dramatically.
Also, I like how it cuts off the dead. Sometimes it leads to unintended humor. I think my favorite scene from yesterday was
ME: "Uh, guys, watch out for the red sticky bo-"
posted by absalom at 11:14 AM on October 14, 2007
Also, I like how it cuts off the dead. Sometimes it leads to unintended humor. I think my favorite scene from yesterday was
ME: "Uh, guys, watch out for the red sticky bo-"
posted by absalom at 11:14 AM on October 14, 2007
That was fun. In the future, I'll probably not drink while playing -- that didn't seem to help my meager skills. (It did, however, make me identify better with the Demoman.)
posted by cog_nate at 11:31 AM on October 14, 2007
posted by cog_nate at 11:31 AM on October 14, 2007
Interesting. It was only when I ran out of beer that I felt like I plateaued.
Check that out: aeaue. Whole lotta vowels, just all jammed together.
posted by cortex (staff) at 12:28 PM on October 14, 2007 [1 favorite]
Check that out: aeaue. Whole lotta vowels, just all jammed together.
posted by cortex (staff) at 12:28 PM on October 14, 2007 [1 favorite]
It was only when I ran out of beer that I felt like I plateaued.
There's the difference, see; I didn't run out.
posted by cog_nate at 2:58 PM on October 14, 2007
There's the difference, see; I didn't run out.
posted by cog_nate at 2:58 PM on October 14, 2007
I think you can send group announcements, via Steam. Haven't tried it though.
I'm really interested in playing with you guys, it sounds like a lot of fun. Portal's been taking all of my gaming time so far, though.
posted by graventy at 12:25 AM on October 15, 2007
I'm really interested in playing with you guys, it sounds like a lot of fun. Portal's been taking all of my gaming time so far, though.
posted by graventy at 12:25 AM on October 15, 2007
I'll take this chance to try playing the engineer a little (with a ping of 170-200 I can't play anything else on mefi server)
posted by darkripper at 12:26 AM on October 15, 2007
posted by darkripper at 12:26 AM on October 15, 2007
L. Fitzgerald Sjoberg: "I've found -- and read -- that playing Medic is good for learning maps. Pick someone and follow them around healing."
There are other reasons to do this, even if you're not just learning. The best games I've ever had is as team medic. After a few minutes, you figure out who can handle medicking the best. When there's a heavy firefight, they'll stand near but just around a corner so you can continuously heal them from safety. And you don't even have to tell them when you make them invulnerable. You both end up with so many points, and a team with two or three pairs of good medics with good patients is almost unstoppable.
posted by Plutor at 4:06 AM on October 15, 2007
There are other reasons to do this, even if you're not just learning. The best games I've ever had is as team medic. After a few minutes, you figure out who can handle medicking the best. When there's a heavy firefight, they'll stand near but just around a corner so you can continuously heal them from safety. And you don't even have to tell them when you make them invulnerable. You both end up with so many points, and a team with two or three pairs of good medics with good patients is almost unstoppable.
posted by Plutor at 4:06 AM on October 15, 2007
Would folks find it useful to have a page up on the wiki similar to this one? This page is Xbox-specific, but perhaps the title could be changed to something platform-neutral? Or just create a new page altogether.
I, for one, would like to know who's killing me.
posted by itchylick at 6:19 AM on October 15, 2007
I, for one, would like to know who's killing me.
posted by itchylick at 6:19 AM on October 15, 2007
Would folks find it useful to have a page up on the wiki similar to this one?
Good idea, itchylick. Perhaps just change the title of the page and the format to something like:
MeFi username
System/Service/MMORPG1: Gamertag/Friend Code/Whatever
Games commonly played
System/Service/MMORPG2: Gamertag/Friend Code/Whatever
Games commonly played
etc
So my entry would look something like:
Rock Steady
Wii: 7804 3304 6050 4006
Wii Sports, Wii Play, Madden, Zelda, RE4
Steam: rocksteady
Portal, HL2, TF2
Puzzle Pirates: Deliagrey
posted by Rock Steady at 7:33 AM on October 15, 2007
Good idea, itchylick. Perhaps just change the title of the page and the format to something like:
MeFi username
System/Service/MMORPG1: Gamertag/Friend Code/Whatever
Games commonly played
System/Service/MMORPG2: Gamertag/Friend Code/Whatever
Games commonly played
etc
So my entry would look something like:
Rock Steady
Wii: 7804 3304 6050 4006
Wii Sports, Wii Play, Madden, Zelda, RE4
Steam: rocksteady
Portal, HL2, TF2
Puzzle Pirates: Deliagrey
posted by Rock Steady at 7:33 AM on October 15, 2007
Also, itchy, I think that was me you were killing on some lonely map the other day, until TF2 crashed on me.
posted by Rock Steady at 7:34 AM on October 15, 2007
posted by Rock Steady at 7:34 AM on October 15, 2007
Is anyone maintaining this server? I appear to now have a newer client version than the server.
posted by well_balanced at 11:23 AM on November 10, 2007
posted by well_balanced at 11:23 AM on November 10, 2007
This thread has been archived and is closed to new comments
I'd participate... and kill you all.*
*not really, i suck. :(
posted by kbanas at 12:14 PM on October 11, 2007