Che Guevara is burning in hell. October 28, 2007 4:37 AM   Subscribe

Do we have to mention Che Guevara in any thread about Cuba?

Just wondering.
posted by chunking express to Etiquette/Policy at 4:37 AM (43 comments total)

Wow, what an extremely effective troll by chlorus. I guess we can just add Cuba to the list of subjects that usually don't go well on MeFi.
posted by sveskemus at 4:56 AM on October 28, 2007


Do you have more than one example?

First comment was a stupid derail, but the discussion recovered from that pretty well. Or at least as well as a lot of Americans debating Cuba can get. Kind of late to be going to MeTa about it now.
posted by ardgedee at 5:04 AM on October 28, 2007


This will Guevera well.
posted by googly at 5:36 AM on October 28, 2007


Another Che, another holler.
posted by Schlimmbesserung at 6:41 AM on October 28, 2007 [1 favorite]


I hear that he's dead.
posted by Balisong at 6:44 AM on October 28, 2007


Ned Kelly is buried in Australia.
And chlorus is flaming on the internet.
posted by Smart Dalek at 6:56 AM on October 28, 2007


Oh, wait - Ned's gone missing, but chlorus might still have an opinion on the matter.
posted by Smart Dalek at 6:59 AM on October 28, 2007


I saw something on the NYT a couple of days ago saying DB Cooper's whereabouts may finally be known, but I can't find the link.
posted by KokuRyu at 7:10 AM on October 28, 2007


KokoRyu: here.

I had to go looking for it after you said that.
posted by dilettante at 7:47 AM on October 28, 2007


No, that's just Treat Williams.

seriously: fascinating link, dilettante. If you don't FPP it by this evening, I call dibs.
posted by item at 7:56 AM on October 28, 2007


It's all yours, item. I'm way busy and shouldn't be sitting here at all, and I figured KokoRyu might have some intention of posting it.
posted by dilettante at 8:00 AM on October 28, 2007


Wow, that D.B. Cooper story is the best thread hijack ever! I especially thought it was cool that the stewardess lives right up the road from me and the writer met her at one of my wife's favorite restaurants. I agree it would be a great foundation for an FPP.
posted by TedW at 9:23 AM on October 28, 2007


And yet the DB Cooper story has already been discredited by the FBI. WHAT ARE THEY HIDING!
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:23 AM on October 28, 2007


Elian Gonzales is burning in hell.
posted by Reggie Digest at 11:31 AM on October 28, 2007


Wow, that D.B. Cooper story is the best thread hijack ever!

I do what I can to help the worldwide revoltution. Viva Che!
posted by KokuRyu at 11:44 AM on October 28, 2007


Speedy Gonzalez in melting in cheese.
posted by jonmc at 11:54 AM on October 28, 2007


Local TV news states that FBI has Dan cooper's tie, thus his DNA.
posted by Cranberry at 12:23 PM on October 28, 2007


No.
posted by killdevil at 12:35 PM on October 28, 2007


But does Dan Cooper's tie have a picture of Che?
posted by never used baby shoes at 12:38 PM on October 28, 2007


Thread seemed to recover nicely, but it looks like Cool Papa Bell stirred the pot and may be coming in for home plate.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 12:44 PM on October 28, 2007


Is that the dude from the T-shirt? He looks cool.
posted by Pater Aletheias at 1:45 PM on October 28, 2007


...the DB Cooper story has already been discredited by the FBI.

Not again! Damn.
posted by TedW at 1:55 PM on October 28, 2007


it looks like Cool Papa Bell stirred the pot and may be coming in for home plate

Rad. What do I win? ;-)
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 2:06 PM on October 28, 2007


Chlorus' comments in other threads indicate a hard-on for Che. I mean, lets face it, Che was dashing and charismatic and looks fuckin great on a t-shirt. And t-shirts are obviously Chlorus' only exposure to the nuanced collective entity that is Cuba. So, you really can't blame him.

I interpret this in a similar way as I interpret homophobic comments. As in 'This person is obviously a repressed bottom.' Only this time with a geopolitical t-shirt iconography twist.
posted by isopraxis at 2:11 PM on October 28, 2007


Rad. What do I win?

Hearts and minds, good American.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 2:56 PM on October 28, 2007


YOU CAN HAVE MY CHE UNDERPANTS WHEN YOU PEEL THEM FROM MY COLD, DEAD PELVIS
posted by loquacious at 3:26 PM on October 28, 2007 [2 favorites]


chunderpants. heh.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 3:27 PM on October 28, 2007 [2 favorites]


Y'know, about a year or so back I wrote a song about ol' Che. I'm going to take the liberty of posting it here:


The Day I Met Che Guevara

one fine and pleasant summer morning
with the song of the cicada in the air
i heard the voice of che guevara
from just behind a tree
and then i saw a ghostly version of him there
he said what's up with all these t-shirts
folks are wearing nowadays
i swear my face is plastered everywhere

he said i do not like the way
i've been appropriated
this is just consumerism
plain and unabated
my face is on the t-shirt
but my case remains unstated

i said esteemed senor guevara
i'm hearing what you say
i've often thought the same thing
i'm glad you've come to me today
if i could help you spread your message
please, che, tell me the way

he said that's right, my gringo friend, i've chosen you
to rekindle revolutionary spirit
and though smashing capitalism
might seem a distant dream
in fact we are surprisingly quite near it
i've got one simple instruction to give you now
and you'll know just what to do once you hear it

then he looked me in the eye, said listen carefully
for really not much longer can i stay
then i noticed that his ghostly form was fading
and his voice was sounding further away
then a sudden sharp crescendo
of cicadas chirp chirp chirping
blotted out what mister che had come to say

so he was gone back to the ghost world
and i just stood there
disappointed with the way the whole thing went
but after while i went right back to thinking
how i was gonna pay my next month's rent
then i went and bought a che guevara t-shirt
the most ironic fifteen bucks i ever spent
posted by flapjax at midnite at 6:10 PM on October 28, 2007


Flap: put it on MeFiMu!

Fun fact: I sold Flea a Che t-shirt when I worked at Left Bank Books in Seattle.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 6:12 PM on October 28, 2007


Che Guevara was a hero to most, but he never meant shit to me.
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 6:35 PM on October 28, 2007


Che Guevara was a hero to most, but he never meant shit to me.

So I guess most of your heros don't appear on no stamps?
posted by flapjax at midnite at 6:47 PM on October 28, 2007


isopraxis --

Reading this comment, it seems that chlorus doesn't have a hard-on for che. He too thinks the Che Guevara t-shirt cult is ridiculous.
posted by jayder at 7:51 PM on October 28, 2007


Motherfuck Che and John Wayne.
posted by Falconetti at 8:08 PM on October 28, 2007


That documentary was pretty interesting. I just finished the first one, is Che heavily featured in the second part which is also about sustainable farming and the Cuban government's efforts to open up a free(ish) market to encourage people to grow their own food with very few imported resources?
posted by Divine_Wino at 8:31 PM on October 28, 2007


This whole thing is a crying cheme.
posted by cortex (staff) at 8:45 PM on October 28, 2007


cheme cheme cheme
cheme of fools
posted by flapjax at midnite at 9:02 PM on October 28, 2007


It's so awesome to have a forum where we can discuss the documentary about sustainable agriculture. And another one to discuss why we can't discuss it on the first one. Could we make a third, maybe?
posted by transient at 9:08 PM on October 28, 2007


Could we make a third, maybe?

I think you'll find this is the appropriate forum for that question.
posted by dersins at 10:18 PM on October 28, 2007


So what does his link to che parody shirts indicate? Other than a hard-on?
posted by isopraxis at 10:23 PM on October 28, 2007


I'm still excited to discover that rockhopper, in all his trolling, threadshitting glory, does have at least one thing I can get onboard about.
posted by Pope Guilty at 11:09 PM on October 28, 2007


It's not illegal to go to Cuba.
posted by Neiltupper at 11:38 PM on October 28, 2007


This will Guevera well.

This will Guevara hell.
posted by oaf at 9:04 AM on October 29, 2007


It's nothing more than a cli-che. (Idea had had for Threadless, but never followed through)
posted by Heatwole at 11:54 AM on October 29, 2007


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